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39 minutes ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

Merry Christmas to all of you punks. This airs tonight. The time listed here is Mountain, I'm pretty sure.

 

Director Penelope Spheeris surveys the late-1970s Los Angeles punk scene: X, Black Flag, Fear, Germs, Catholic Discipline, Alice Bag Band.

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If it's about the decline of Western civilization, they should have interviewed Cliff Varnell.  He's, obviously, an authority on that subject. 🤣

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2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

The whole "Paisley" sound was new to me, but I think The Bangles are regarded as a Paisley influenced band, if not the only one to find commercial success. 

 

I don't think any band really wanted to identify as "Paisley Underground."  It was just some record exec's catchphrase for selling all these dawn-of-the-80s California bands as a "wave," based on their propensity to jam, plus the studied resemblances of the first Dream Syndicate album to the Velvet Underground - actually the most exciting and least annoying Velvets hommage ever. 

The Bangles were a collection of scene hangers-on who didn't make the cut for the other bands, and succeeded through Susanna Hoffs' rich-mommy determination, plus a major label's desire to brand a new version of The Go-Gos. 

In Green on Red's case, "running buddies of the Dream Syndicate" is code for "fellow drunken a-holes trying to recreate the Palomino club scene of Gram Parsons' day, and guesting on each other's albums."

Here's the Paisley Underground's collective covers album, where a sliding roster of some bands mentioned tries to recreate The Basement Tapes.  Full credits are available on the YouTube page if you click Show More:

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1 hour ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

Merry Christmas to all of you punks. This airs tonight. The time listed here is Mountain, I'm pretty sure.

 

Director Penelope Spheeris surveys the late-1970s Los Angeles punk scene: X, Black Flag, Fear, Germs, Catholic Discipline, Alice Bag Band.

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We're gonna have a TV party tonight!

 

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Here's an article with an alternate explanation of the "Paisley Underground" monicker:

http://magnetmagazine.com/2001/05/18/one-nation-underground-the-story-of-the-paisley-underground/#more-37599

Here's Susanna [Hoffs] and the Elders, from the Bible.  I think this is how the CBS record execs discovered The Bangles:

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I don't hate The Bangles, though.  Here's one of the best covers ever.  Has a great 1960s feel, like they've been listening to Tommy James and the Shondells:

 

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This, too was Paisley: Opal, featuring David Roback of Rain Parade and Kendra Smith of Dream Syndicate:

And this is the ultimate 1990s evolution of Opal, Mazzy Star, with Roback plus Hope Sandoval on vocals.  Familiar from TV/movie soundtracks:

 

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3 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

  If Cliff ever writes his social and intellectual history masterpiece, it should be titled, "The Decline of Western Civilization in the Late 20th Century-- From Bach, Beethoven, and the Beatles to the Butthole Surfers."

Ah, the end of Western Civ...at the hands of...The Vandals!

Hold the government!

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