James DiEugenio Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Doug did that while on the ARRB, he found a log kept by a guy in the AIr Force. And we got if for the documentary. He was in Toronto but he lied and said he was in Michigan. https://jfkfacts.org/a-note-on-curtis-lemays-actions-on-nov-22/ Greg, all GOPers are cheapskates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 Here is the invite for the Webinar by Jacob. There is no fee. https://www.fff.org/2021/01/26/our-upcoming-conference-jfks-foreign-policy-and-the-assassination/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Doug did that while on the ARRB, he found a log kept by a guy in the AIr Force. And we got if for the documentary. He was in Toronto but he lied and said he was in Michigan. https://jfkfacts.org/a-note-on-curtis-lemays-actions-on-nov-22/ Greg, all GOPers are cheapskates. The part about changing landing location in DC and not making contact with his adjutant interests me too. Anything on that? I’ll read the link you sent - maybe it’s all in there. Edited January 27, 2021 by Paul Brancato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Oh I get it Jim, it's just an invite. Sorry to get political. Of course I understand for you why not go wherever you're invited? But it looks like this guy Jason is sort of a Banon , "dismantle the administrative state type guy". He proposes to "join up with us libertarians to restore a system based on free-markets, private property, voluntary charity, and a limited-government republic. That’s the way to a healthy, peaceful, prosperous, harmonious, and free society". Ok, I'd like to see how he would handle the economic displacement from the current pandemic, or if his answer to that would have been to do less than Trump and aim for herd immunity with probably twice the deaths we now suffer? He seems like he's for healthy world trade so we can hardly call him an anti globalist, which is fine with me but where I think we can all agree is that he is more against US. interventionism, but there a lot more to it than that. I definitely agree with him in that I'm against GW's push to privatize Social Security, particularly given that only 4 years later we were to witness a great stock market crash and the Great Recession, which of course would have been an apocryphal disaster! But his problem with privatizing Social Security is that it was just a piecemeal change to appease Libertarians which seems to indicate he has bigger plans, and what else would that be but to eliminate Social Security altogether? I love how he wraps up in a very cute phrase "the welfare -warfare state", like they're one and the same, or at least they sort of follow each other. Of course anyone who hears can't help but agree. Who likes "welfare and warfare"? Just letting you know! ****** Interesting story Greg! Edited January 27, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 He was supposed to land at Andrews. He did not. The logical conclusion is all the media was there, so he did not want to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Thank you, Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Rigby Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 What Happened to JFK and a Foreign Policy of Peace? By Rick Sterling Global Research, January 27, 2021 https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-happened-jfk-foreign-policy-peace/5735544 Quote Sixty years ago, John F Kennedy (JFK) was inaugurated as president of the USA. In less than three years, before he was assassinated in November 1963, he initiated major changes in foreign policy. These foreign policy changes are documented in books such as “JFK and the Unspeakable” (2008) and “Betting on the Africans” (2012). One of the foremost scholars on JFK, James Di Eugenio, has an excellent new article of the Kennedy foreign policy at Covert Action: “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’Etat over Foreign Policy?”. Despite this literature, many people in the West do not realize the extent to which JFK was an exception. This article will briefly review some of the actions he took while alive, and what happened after he was gone. While JFK was a staunch advocate for capitalism and the “free world”, in competition with the Soviet Union and communism, he promoted acceptance of non-aligned countries and supported nationalist movements in Africa, the Middle East and Third World generally. In the summer before he was killed, he reached out to the Soviet Union and proposed sweeping changes to promote peace and prevent war. The previous Eisenhower administration was hostile to post WW2 nationalist movements in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. In 1953 the CIA supervised the overthrow of Iran’s elected government. They supported the Saudi monarch and undermined the popular Egyptian Nasser. In contrast, Kennedy was sympathetic to the “winds of change” in Africa and beyond. He criticized France’s repression of the Algerian independence movement and was sympathetic to Patrice Lumumba leading the Congo’s independence from Belgium. Kennedy worked with UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold to preserve Congo’s independence and try to restore Lumumba to power. The CIA managed to have Patrice Lumumba executed three days before Kennedy’s inauguration. Under Kennedy, the United States started voting against the European colonial powers in Africa. Kennedy provided tangible aid to Nasser in Egypt. After Kennedy’s death, the US policy returned to support for European powers and CIA intervention. The US supported NATO ally Portugal in its wars in Angola, Mozambique, and Guinea Bissau. The US supported secessionist and tribal forces in the Congo, Angola, Somalia, and many other countries with hugely damaging results. The US supported apartheid South Africa until the end. The US supported the sectarian Muslim Brotherhood against Nasser. This was also a critical time for Israel Palestine. JFK was more objective and balanced that most US politicians. Just 22 years old in 1939, Kennedy visited Palestine and wrote his observations / analysis in a 4 page letter to his father. He is thoughtful and recognizes the Palestinian perspective. He speaks of the “unfortunately arrogant, uncompromising attitude” of some Jewish leaders. In May 2019, more documents were released from the National Security Archives. They show that JFK, as president, was intent on stopping Israel from surreptitiously building a nuclear weapon. In a letter to the new Israeli Prime Minister Eshkol, Kennedy gives a diplomatic ultimatum that US support of Israel will be “seriously jeopardized” if Israel did not comply with inspection visits to the Israel’s nuclear facility at Dimona. After JFK’s death, the Johnson administration was submissive to Israel and pro-Israel supporters. Johnson showed the ultimate political subservience by preventing the rescue and hiding Israeli treachery regarding the USS Liberty. The Israeli attack killed 34 and injured 172 US sailors. Would Israel have had the arrogance and chutzpah to do this if Kennedy had been in the White House? Unlikely. The invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs took place just three months after Kennedy took office. The CIA and generals expected Kennedy to provide US air support for the anti-Castro attackers. Kennedy said no and resolved to get rid of the long-standing CIA Director who had managed the operation. Allen Dulles and two Deputy Directors were forced to resign by the end of the year. The Pentagon, CIA and anti-Castro Cubans were furious at JFK. When the Soviet Union sent nuclear capable missiles to Cuba, the hawks demanded that the US attack. Kennedy opposed this and ended up negotiating an agreement whereby the US removed its nuclear missiles in Turkey as Soviet nuclear missiles were removed from Cuba. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country with vast natural resources and strategic location. President Sukarno led the country to independence and was a leader in the global Non-Aligned Movement seeking a middle ground between the poles of the USA and Soviet Union. The Eisenhower/Dulles administration tried to overthrow Sukarno. In contrast, JFK changed the policy from hostility to friendship. Sukarno invited JFK to visit the country and the invitation was accepted. Following JFK’s assassination, the policy returned to hostility and just two years later, in 1965, the US engineered a coup leading to the murder of about half a million Indonesian citizens suspected of being communist. JFK visited Vietnam in 1951 as the French colonial powers were trying to assert their control. He saw the situation as 400,000 French soldiers were losing to the Vietnamese nationalist movement. Thus, when he became president, he was skeptical of the prospects. President Kennedy authorized an increase of US military advisers but never sent combat troops. As the situation deteriorated, JFK finally decided the policy was wrong. In October 1963 Kennedy issued National Security Action Memorandum 263 directing US withdrawal to begin in December and be completed by the end of 1965. After JFK’s death, President Johnson reversed course and began sending massive numbers of US soldiers to Vietnam. Twelve years later, after 58,000 American and about two million Vietnamese deaths, the US military departed Vietnam. The Soviet Union was the largest communist country and primary challenger to the US and capitalist system. The Cold War included mutual recriminations and a huge amount of military spending as both sides designed and produced ever more hydrogen bombs, air and sea delivery systems. During the Cuba crisis, Kennedy and Soviet Premier Khruschev both realized how dangerous the situation was. Nuclear war could have accidentally or intentionally begun. In June1963, JFK delivered the commencement address at American University. It was probably his most important speech yet is little known. JFK called for a dramatic change in US posture, from confrontation to mutual acceptance. He called for re-examination of US attitudes toward peace, the Soviet Union, the Cold War and peace and freedom within the USA itself. He called for a special communication line between Washington and Moscow to allow direct communications between the two leaders. And then Kennedy declared that the US would end nuclear testing as a first step toward general and complete disarmament. In the last months before his death, JFK opened secret communications with Soviet Premier Khruschev and used a journalist to communicate directly with Fidel Castro. JFK proposed face-to-face talks aimed at reconciliation with Cuba. Kennedy’s initiatives toward reconciliation and peace were opposed by the CIA and militarist elements in the government. As reported in the NY Times, Kennedy privately told one of his highest officials he “wanted to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds”. Before that could happen, JFK was assassinated, and his policy changes reversed. From Moscow to Cairo to Jakarta, Kennedy’s death was met with shock and mourning. Leaders in those countries sensed what the assassination meant. The day after JFK’s funeral, President Johnson supplanted Kennedy’s planned withdrawal from Viet Nam with National Security Action Memorandum 273. This resulted in 12 years of aggression and bloodshed in southeast Asia. Coups were carried out in the Dominican Republic and Indonesia. US resumed support for South African apartheid and Portuguese colonial wars. Assassination attempts on Fidel Castro escalated while military coups took place in numerous Latin American countries. In the Middle East, the US solidified support for Israel and Saudi Arabia. The author of “JFK and the Unspeakable”, Jim Douglas, writes “President Kennedy’s courageous turn from global war to a strategy of peace provides the why of his assassination. Because he turned toward peace with our enemies, the Communists, he found himself at odds with his own national security state.” * Note to readers: please click the share buttons above or below. Forward this article to your email lists. Crosspost on your blog site, internet forums. etc. Rick Sterling is a journalist based in the SF Bay Area. He can be reached at rsterling1@protonmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: He was supposed to land at Andrews. He did not. The logical conclusion is all the media was there, so he did not want to be seen. Google maps clearly shows that DCA is much closer to Bethesda than Andrews AF base. the AF 1 tapes that Home is working from is more complete, but there is still much missing. How can he be sure that LeMay’s aide was unsuccessful in his frantic efforts to communicate with LeMay? Even if that is true, and let’s suppose it is true, it seems very possible that LeMay knew where the autopsy was going to take place, and if memory serves the location was changed from Walter Reed to Bethesda on AF 1 despite objections to the change by some of JFK’s people. The assumption I made a while back, that LeMay changed his landing choice based on the autopsy location, is at least a good working hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Rigby said: What Happened to JFK and a Foreign Policy of Peace? By Rick Sterling Global Research, January 27, 2021 https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-happened-jfk-foreign-policy-peace/5735544 * Note to readers: please click the share buttons above or below. Forward this article to your email lists. Crosspost on your blog site, internet forums. etc. Rick Sterling is a journalist based in the SF Bay Area. He can be reached at rsterling1@protonmail.com OMG, is it catching on? Chomsky, who is getting pretty old, is going to be spitting up bile. Thanks for that one Mr. RIgby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. A. Copeland Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 4:31 AM, Cliff Varnell said: He was outplayed by the #3 man at the State Dept., Averell Harriman. October of 1963 the UN sent a delegation to Saigon to make a report on the conflict between Diem and his brother Nhu with the Buddhist protesters who’d been stirred up by the CIA. By then the Buddhist uprising was beginning to cool off, and the initial report from the delegation was positive. US aid to the Diem regime had been curtailed a month earlier, and if Kennedy had restored aid on the basis of the UN report the South Vietnamese generals would have taken that as a withdrawal of US support for a coup. And the overthrow of Diem was the program JFK went along with. Don’t get me wrong, I admire JFK tremendously— but a screw-up is a screw-up. Shall we add Henry Cabot Lodge as someone else who royally screwed JFK in Vietnam as well? Its sickening to read about his actions in the documentary record as well as Douglass' book in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, B. A. Copeland said: Shall we add Henry Cabot Lodge as someone else who royally screwed JFK in Vietnam as well? Its sickening to read about his actions in the documentary record as well as Douglass' book in particular. Absolutely. Eastern Liberal Establishment “Masters of the Universe” types like Harriman and Lodge whacked the Ngo Brothers to maintain a militarized South Vietnam. Harriman bucked JFK’s Foreign Policy Team when he negotiated the Partition of Laos, which gave the North Vietnamese access to the Ho Chi Minh Trail in eastern Laos while the CIA got access to opium fields in the west. Without a militarized South the CIA operations in Laos faced doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 17 hours ago, B. A. Copeland said: Shall we add Henry Cabot Lodge as someone else who royally screwed JFK in Vietnam as well? Its sickening to read about his actions in the documentary record as well as Douglass' book in particular. Yep 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 10:11 PM, Chris Barnard said: In cinema, TV or now, streaming, we are trained from small children to buy into this heroes and villains narrative. In reality, most of the time it's never about that, it's usually about money. Of course I don't know 100% for sure in this case, but, when you apply the logic of Major General Smedley Butlers book "War is a racket" and think about how much a decade of Vietnam was worth in USD, it really outweighs any other motive. Everyone works on risk vs reward. LBJ could have been going to prison for his earlier misdemeanours, so he had a very strong motive or mission of self preservation. But, he'd need to know if he was involved in such a plan that he could never be held accountable, so he needs CIA & FBI guarantees. The same as the CIA guys, they can hate as much as they like but, is it worth jail-time and everyone knowing you are a cowardly killer who killed a generally well liked president (publicly) and father of two? They'd need to know they'd get away with it. The same with the mafia guys or cuban exiles. It's clear from Dealey Plaza that logistically there were a lot of people having to play their part, in support mostly. That says it's organised, rather than a rabble of dissidents. Being rational, the USA had set themselves up to rule and dominate the world, through various organisations that facilitated and masked their real intentions, they succeeded the British who were overt with their colonialism and the USA setup a strategy of covert action. Right through to present day you can look at the Council on Foreign Relations, World Bank, IMF, NATO etc. If you have a president in office undoing that, and it looks like he might get 4 more years, and has brothers who may run after him (speculative) who have the same ideals, what do you do? Get rid of him as he is cutting peoples capacity to earn from foreign policy. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 9:03 AM, Paul Rigby said: What Happened to JFK and a Foreign Policy of Peace? By Rick Sterling Global Research, January 27, 2021 https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-happened-jfk-foreign-policy-peace/5735544 * Note to readers: please click the share buttons above or below. Forward this article to your email lists. Crosspost on your blog site, internet forums. etc. Rick Sterling is a journalist based in the SF Bay Area. He can be reached at rsterling1@protonmail.com Great article. It dovetails nicely with Jim's, nice to see him credited and the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 12:25 AM, James DiEugenio said: My pal Aaron Good got the editors over at Covert Action magazine to print this essay. It took some work but I think it turned out well. I could not have so profusely filled it out with all those pictures. I only had one problem with the editing. They wanted to include a footnote to Hersh's Dark Side of Camelot. I said anyone who knows me would understand I would not use a footnote to that book even if I was undergoing enhanced interrogation techniques. So we got that straightened out. These people are trying to revive the paper Zine of BIll Schaap and Ellen Ray who made history when they published On the Trail of the Assassins. Anyway, here is some hidden history as they say. The part about Nasser and the Middle East is particularly interesting I think. https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-d-etat-over-foreign-policy The best concise big picture piece I've ever read, though I don't pretend to be well read on all the subjects. Lumumba being killed by enemies he was turned over to by the CIA, three days before JFK's inauguration on January 20 is telling. That the President Elect was not told of this until February 13, well after he'd become President, over two weeks, is incriminating. JFK had known support of Lumumba which is why it took place before he took office. The picture of JFK's reaction is a national treasure. The Nixon, Eisenhower, Saud picture says it all about oil. The grins. Though the details that explain this are new to me. A United States of Africa. That's a unique concept. Dimona... This article should lead to a book. Angleton gave the Israeli's enriched plutonium to make Atomic Bomb's after JFK died. Is the Liberty photo legit enhanced? If actual, stunning. Need to re read. Deep. Note to self, "White Wash", but not about Harold Weisberg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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