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While going through FOIA stuff I was reminded of a cryptic message that was posted on the old alt.consp.jfk board MANY years ago. I dug it up, and wonder to this day if it was real or an elaborate con. Opinions welcome :)

 

 

Ernest Douglas Hermann

October 2, 1963 (*CLAS*)
November 10, 1963 (*CLAS*)

NOTES:
CODE SPEC: 81.14.f. North clearance.

* * * * * * * * * *

Arthur James Hidell

August 9, 1963
September 24, 1963 (CORE-1.a)
September 28, 1963 (Orat)
October 18, 1963 (Field: HOU)
October 29, 1963 (Serv)
November 20, 1963 (Field: DAL)
November 22, 1963 (ARM PRIM 3 (see NOTES))
November 23, 1963 (DIS)

NOTES:
Loc a.3.e-5 - primary: Dealey.

* * * * * * * * * *

Cyril Jacob Klein

October 18, 1962 (Var Mil)
December 13, 1962 (Spec Ops Det)
January 3, 1963 (Field: Houston)

NOTES:
Deployment delayed. Command breached.

* * * * * * * * * *

Col. Maxwell Scheck

September 14, 1962

* * * * * * * * * *

Martin Zambruchetti

March 5, 1963 (Core)
October 17, 1963 (Spec Ops)

NOTE:
QX-1435-8P.a

* * * * * * * * * *

CN: 112-28-9873-1

DOC: 14.c

DES: 11/21/63. NEW DIRECTIVES: A9-10, 25 degrees East; F2-17, 13 degrees
South. (MOV OPER)

SECURE: (*CLAS*)

* * * * * * * * * *

CN: 479-18-6446-9

DOC: 11.b

DES: Dealey Plaza; Dallas, Texas; United States. 11/20/63. Call South.
Transmit Objective KP-18-O.

SECURE: David Russell Neimens

 

Posted

@Matt Allison Intriguing. 

Any idea what those CN or case numbers correspond to? Also, are these names of actual people or anagrams? 

I can find a staff Sgt Cyril J Klein in the US Army in WW2. 

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:

Chris- I'm afraid I don't know what any of it means! lol

Hoping someone here on the group can do better with it than I did.

Hope so too. Someone who has perhaps been through military records or, CIA records might recognise the format of the case numbers etc. One weird thing happens when you search Martin Zambruchetti on google, you get no results, its blank. I wonder if the names are aliases. 
 

To eliminate if we are wasting time, did the author of this post put up other posts that seemed logical or authentic? 
 

I rather like the idea that it’s something that needs solving. It seems so cryptic. 

Posted (edited)

Arthur James Hidell sounds like a nom de guerre given Oswald that he would insist on changing to Alek, to be smartass about his Russia service.

I would love to know what the coordinates stand for under New Directives and Oswald Notes.

Citing Dealey Plaza in these orders seems to be laying it on a bit thick for truth, though.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

Arthur James Hidell sounds like a nom de guerre given Oswald that he would insist on changing to Alek, to be smartass about his Russia service.

I would love to know what the coordinates stand for under New Directives and Oswald Notes.

Citing Dealey Plaza in these orders seems to be laying it on a bit thick for truth, though.

I think you’re right, there’d be a code name for the location. 

Posted (edited)
40 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said:

I think you’re right, there’d be a code name for the location. 

You'd think it would be a numerical coordinate, since the name Dealey Plaza wasn't common knowledge until after the JFKA, and beforehand could be predicted to become infamous.

Edited by David Andrews
Posted
11 hours ago, Matt Allison said:

Arthur James Hidell

August 9, 1963
September 24, 1963 (CORE-1.a)
September 28, 1963 (Orat)
October 18, 1963 (Field: HOU)
October 29, 1963 (Serv)
November 20, 1963 (Field: DAL)
November 22, 1963 (ARM PRIM 3 (see NOTES))
November 23, 1963 (DIS)

NOTES:
Loc a.3.e-5 - primary: Dealey

Was Oswald in Houston on the 18th October 63? That’s William P. Hobby Airport. 

Posted

Matt, that Arthur James Hidell September 24, 1963 CORE reference has me intrigued.  CORE is the acronym for the Congress On Racial Equality (founded in 1942).  Per Destiny Betrayed Shaw/Bertrand, Ferrie and Ozzie were seen at a CORE voter drive by multiple witnesses in Jackson LA in late summer 1963, no exact date given.  I can't remember the exact dates of Oswald supposedly in/ going to Mexico City off the top of my head at the moment.  Maybe worth a little more digging tomorrow, if there is any more info available elsewhere.

Posted
1 hour ago, Matt Allison said:

Ron, I think the reason that day stuck out to me was because it was Oswald's last full day as a resident of New Orleans. He left for Texas the next day.

So, Oswald left for Dallas on 9/25/63?  

If Arthur Hidell or (?) aka Alek Hidell was reported on being at a CORE event in say Jackson, La on 9/24 or within a few days previously, and LHO/Ferrie and Bertrand-Shaw might have been there the same day that's interesting.  Speculation at this point.  But at least partially factually based?

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