Matt Allison Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 While going through FOIA stuff I was reminded of a cryptic message that was posted on the old alt.consp.jfk board MANY years ago. I dug it up, and wonder to this day if it was real or an elaborate con. Opinions welcome Ernest Douglas Hermann October 2, 1963 (*CLAS*) November 10, 1963 (*CLAS*) NOTES: CODE SPEC: 81.14.f. North clearance. * * * * * * * * * * Arthur James Hidell August 9, 1963 September 24, 1963 (CORE-1.a) September 28, 1963 (Orat) October 18, 1963 (Field: HOU) October 29, 1963 (Serv) November 20, 1963 (Field: DAL) November 22, 1963 (ARM PRIM 3 (see NOTES)) November 23, 1963 (DIS) NOTES: Loc a.3.e-5 - primary: Dealey. * * * * * * * * * * Cyril Jacob Klein October 18, 1962 (Var Mil) December 13, 1962 (Spec Ops Det) January 3, 1963 (Field: Houston) NOTES: Deployment delayed. Command breached. * * * * * * * * * * Col. Maxwell Scheck September 14, 1962 * * * * * * * * * * Martin Zambruchetti March 5, 1963 (Core) October 17, 1963 (Spec Ops) NOTE: QX-1435-8P.a * * * * * * * * * * CN: 112-28-9873-1 DOC: 14.c DES: 11/21/63. NEW DIRECTIVES: A9-10, 25 degrees East; F2-17, 13 degrees South. (MOV OPER) SECURE: (*CLAS*) * * * * * * * * * * CN: 479-18-6446-9 DOC: 11.b DES: Dealey Plaza; Dallas, Texas; United States. 11/20/63. Call South. Transmit Objective KP-18-O. SECURE: David Russell Neimens
Guest Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 @Matt Allison Intriguing. Any idea what those CN or case numbers correspond to? Also, are these names of actual people or anagrams? I can find a staff Sgt Cyril J Klein in the US Army in WW2.
Matt Allison Posted December 30, 2021 Author Posted December 30, 2021 Chris- I'm afraid I don't know what any of it means! lol Hoping someone here on the group can do better with it than I did.
Guest Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: Chris- I'm afraid I don't know what any of it means! lol Hoping someone here on the group can do better with it than I did. Hope so too. Someone who has perhaps been through military records or, CIA records might recognise the format of the case numbers etc. One weird thing happens when you search Martin Zambruchetti on google, you get no results, its blank. I wonder if the names are aliases. To eliminate if we are wasting time, did the author of this post put up other posts that seemed logical or authentic? I rather like the idea that it’s something that needs solving. It seems so cryptic.
David Andrews Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Arthur James Hidell sounds like a nom de guerre given Oswald that he would insist on changing to Alek, to be smartass about his Russia service. I would love to know what the coordinates stand for under New Directives and Oswald Notes. Citing Dealey Plaza in these orders seems to be laying it on a bit thick for truth, though. Edited December 30, 2021 by David Andrews
Guest Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, David Andrews said: Arthur James Hidell sounds like a nom de guerre given Oswald that he would insist on changing to Alek, to be smartass about his Russia service. I would love to know what the coordinates stand for under New Directives and Oswald Notes. Citing Dealey Plaza in these orders seems to be laying it on a bit thick for truth, though. I think you’re right, there’d be a code name for the location.
David Andrews Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said: I think you’re right, there’d be a code name for the location. You'd think it would be a numerical coordinate, since the name Dealey Plaza wasn't common knowledge until after the JFKA, and beforehand could be predicted to become infamous. Edited December 30, 2021 by David Andrews
Guest Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Matt Allison said: Arthur James Hidell August 9, 1963 September 24, 1963 (CORE-1.a) September 28, 1963 (Orat) October 18, 1963 (Field: HOU) October 29, 1963 (Serv) November 20, 1963 (Field: DAL) November 22, 1963 (ARM PRIM 3 (see NOTES)) November 23, 1963 (DIS) NOTES: Loc a.3.e-5 - primary: Dealey Was Oswald in Houston on the 18th October 63? That’s William P. Hobby Airport.
Matt Allison Posted December 30, 2021 Author Posted December 30, 2021 Each of the names and info was posted as a separate post; they were compiled in my above post. They were the only posts the author ever made on ACJFK...
Ron Bulman Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 Matt, that Arthur James Hidell September 24, 1963 CORE reference has me intrigued. CORE is the acronym for the Congress On Racial Equality (founded in 1942). Per Destiny Betrayed Shaw/Bertrand, Ferrie and Ozzie were seen at a CORE voter drive by multiple witnesses in Jackson LA in late summer 1963, no exact date given. I can't remember the exact dates of Oswald supposedly in/ going to Mexico City off the top of my head at the moment. Maybe worth a little more digging tomorrow, if there is any more info available elsewhere.
Matt Allison Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 Ron, I think the reason that day stuck out to me was because it was Oswald's last full day as a resident of New Orleans. He left for Texas the next day.
Ron Bulman Posted December 31, 2021 Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Matt Allison said: Ron, I think the reason that day stuck out to me was because it was Oswald's last full day as a resident of New Orleans. He left for Texas the next day. So, Oswald left for Dallas on 9/25/63? If Arthur Hidell or (?) aka Alek Hidell was reported on being at a CORE event in say Jackson, La on 9/24 or within a few days previously, and LHO/Ferrie and Bertrand-Shaw might have been there the same day that's interesting. Speculation at this point. But at least partially factually based?
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