Karl Kinaski Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Not only saw he a Mauser and not a Carcano, he saw a Weaver scope on that Mauser and not a ordnance optics japanese scope on a Carcano. japanese scope on a Carcano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) The Weitzman rifle and scope misidentification incident is just another amongst the 1,000 other suspicion demanding ones throughout the entire JFK case. All of which we have been told by our officially sanctioned investigative body were misstated, misunderstood, flat out untrue and even if partially true...totally unimportant in the final assessment truth finding report. Of all the officers present on the 6th floor when the rifle was found and examined, Weitzman was asked to do the IDing because he was the most knowledgeable regards guns and especially rifles. As County Sheriff Roger Craig correctly stated Weitzman was a "gun buff" and had actually owned and operated a "sporting goods" store that sold guns. Sheriff Craig was right there next to Weitzman as Weitzman was examining the rifle from just inches away. We are told to believe that not only did "gun buff" Weitzman mistakenly identify the 6th floor found rifle and it's scope, he didn't even realize his mistake until much later. When anyone curious enough to study even 1/10th the reported testimonies of hundreds of eye witnesses having anything to do with the JFK event and the main characters involved and that suggests truths opposite of the WC finding you quickly realize this reality: It is mathematically impossible for all of them to be untrue and to be totally unimportant in their WC final report contrariness. Nothing to see here folks. Get back in your cars and go home and make some popcorn and watch TV. Edited June 16, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) Joe: Roger Craig said the police took photos of the Mauser. Where can I see those photos? Edited June 15, 2022 by Denis Morissette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Joe: Who saw 2 rifles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) I don't recall two different rifle photos. And not sure who saw two rifles. There is a video interview of Weitzman on You Tube where he contritely confesses his identification error after there was a suspicion arousing stink in the press regards his clearly contradictive Mauser ID versus the later FBI Carcano ID. In this video Weitzman looks like a kid who got caught doing a very bad thing and was punished with a serious backside walloping and angry lecture. Notice Weitzman in this video looking extremely uncomfortable, stammering, halting, constantly looking down and away and even closing his eyes completely at one key confession point. He still defends his supposed misidentification however, as an "honest" mistake. I'm no interrogation expert but this guy looks and sounds like he doesn't really believe his confession and is totally nervous and uncomfortable giving it. With even a touch of fear. Looks like one of those close encounter UFO reporting people who after a few talks with the authorities, takes it all back and sheepishly admits they were hallucinating. 1:56NOW PLAYING JFK Assassination Seymour Weitzman Tells His Mauser Story 155 views3 months ago JFK Assassination Forum Shortly after noon on November 22, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a motorcade through ... Edited June 16, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: I don't recall two different rifle photos. And not sure who saw two rifles. There is a video interview of Weitzman on You Tube where he contritely confesses his identification error after there was a suspicion arousing stink in the press regards his clearly contradictive Mauser ID versus the later FBI Carcano ID. In this video Weitzman looks like a kid who got caught doing a very bad thing and was punished with a serious backside walloping and angry lecture. Notice Weitzman in this video looking extremely uncomfortable, stammering, halting, constantly looking down and away and even closing his eyes completely at one key confession point. He still defends his supposed misidentification however, as an "honest" mistake. I'm no interrogation expert but this guy looks and sounds like he doesn't really believe his confession and is totally nervous and uncomfortable giving it. With even a touch of fear. Looks like one of those close encounter UFO reporting people who after a few talks with the authorities, takes it all back and sheepishly admits they were hallucinating. 1:56NOW PLAYING JFK Assassination Seymour Weitzman Tells His Mauser Story 155 views3 months ago JFK Assassination Forum Shortly after noon on November 22, 1963, President John F. Kennedy was assassinated as he rode in a motorcade through ... There are police photos of the Carcano, I’m sure you know. But none of the Mauser. There are photos and films of the Carcano inside and outside the TSBD. But none of the Mauser. Do you admit there was a Carcano found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Denis Morissette said: There are police photos of the Carcano, I’m sure you know. But none of the Mauser. There are photos and films of the Carcano inside and outside the TSBD. But none of the Mauser. Do you admit there was a Carcano found? Perhaps. But I am open to the possibility of two guns found. Roger Craig stated Weitzman got a closer look at the rifle than Weitzman claimed he did. Weitzman was closer to the rifle than even Craig. And Craig stated you could see the "Mauser" stamp on the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Perhaps. But I am open to the possibility of two guns found. Roger Craig stated Weitzman got a closer look at the rifle than Weitzman claimed he did. Weitzman was closer to the rifle than even Craig. And Craig stated you could see the "Mauser" stamp on the barrel. Are you open to the possibility of 3 or 4 rifles found? The rifle had a scope. Can you provide a Mauser with a scope and still showing Mauser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Are you open to the idea that Craig was lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 "Buell Wesley Frazier shed a little light on this confusing situation when he told the authors in May 2015 that he recalled seeing a Mauser in the School Book Depository on November 20, 1963, two days before the assassination. It belonged to Warren Caster, an employee with Southwestern Publishing Company. Southwestern Publishing Company was then located on the second floor of the Depository. Caster was proud of his rifles and brought in both a Mauser and a .22-caliber rifle to show to Frazier's supervisors, William Shelley and Roy Truly, as well as to some of his fellow workers two days before the assassination. Other workers verified seeing Caster displaying these two rifles on November 20, 1963." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said: "Buell Wesley Frazier shed a little light on this confusing situation when he told the authors in May 2015 that he recalled seeing a Mauser in the School Book Depository on November 20, 1963, two days before the assassination. It belonged to Warren Caster, an employee with Southwestern Publishing Company. Southwestern Publishing Company was then located on the second floor of the Depository. Caster was proud of his rifles and brought in both a Mauser and a .22-caliber rifle to show to Frazier's supervisors, William Shelley and Roy Truly, as well as to some of his fellow workers two days before the assassination. Other workers verified seeing Caster displaying these two rifles on November 20, 1963." I meant on 11/22 after the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Denis Morissette said: I meant on 11/22 after the shooting. Don't you find it even a little suspiciously coincidental that a "Mauser" rifle was actually in the TXSBD building just 48 hours before 11,22,1963? How many times a year were "any" hunting or military rifles brought into the TXSBD? A building full of textbook and other related companies? Where there are as many female employees as men? Maybe even more? Maybe never before? This wasn't Bernie's Hunting Lodge in the Squaw Mountain Ranch area of Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Joe, Denis is doing his John McAdams bit for you. The idea that somehow you can simply blow off the Mauser sighting as being inconsequential is I think not really defensible. Boone executed a sworn affidavit in which he described a Mauser rifle. (CE 2003,p. 63) And as late as midnight on 11/22/63, Henry Wade was describing the weapon as a Mauser. (CE 2169) Fritz also thought it was a Mauser. (Meagher, p. 96) In the ARRB declassifications, the FBI found a Mauser shell in Dealey Plaza. That was in Noel Twyman's book. And as you note, there was a Mauser in the TSBD 48 hours prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Joe, Denis is doing his John McAdams bit for you. The idea that somehow you can simply blow off the Mauser sighting as being inconsequential is I think not really defensible. Boone executed a sworn affidavit in which he described a Mauser rifle. (CE 2003,p. 63) And as late as midnight on 11/22/63, Henry Wade was describing the weapon as a Mauser. (CE 2169) Fritz also thought it was a Mauser. (Meagher, p. 96) In the ARRB declassifications, the FBI found a Mauser shell in Dealey Plaza. That was in Noel Twyman's book. And as you note, there was a Mauser in the TSBD 48 hours prior. Exactly. Several important position key witnesses were calling it a Mauser all through the rest of 11,22,1963. That's a lot of others who didn't think Weitzman mis-identified the rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) The beef with Craig is that somehow you could not see the Mauser insignia when the bolt was pulled. David Josephs showed that on a particular type of Mauser, you could. Edited June 17, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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