Sandy Larsen Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 This question is only for those who believe Oswald was a patsy, but deny that the plotters had any control over Ruth Paine (or Linnie Mae Randle): Was it just coincidence that Oswald got a job where he needed to be... where the plotters planned for the assassination to take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 bump Come on Ruth Paine apologists. The place where Ruth innocently told Oswald to get a job, the TSBD, turned out to be the very same place the plotters chose for the shooting. What an amazing coincidence! Do you really believe that? (This question is only for those who believe Oswald was a patsy.) P.S. I don't believe Ruth Paine was evil. I believe she was patriotic... that she did what she thought was patriotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I’ve pondered this forever. It’s a very pertinent question. The main thing I would say is that whoever arranged it, whether LHO himself, or Ruth Paine or her neighbor, they needn’t have known that JFK was going to be assassinated, but they might have been guided by some unseen handler. I think that’s likely, since otherwise the coincidence is, as you say too big a stretch. Even the handler might not have known what was to come. But their identity would reveal an awful lot, since they in turn were following some dictate. Ruth is the obvious short answer, since it was she that passed on the info. Is there any reason to suspect that someone at the TSBD was the instigator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 How do you know the plotters picked the TSBD on or prior to October 3rd 1963? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt Allison said: How do you know the plotters picked the TSBD on or prior to October 3rd 1963? In the same way that you know a piece of a jigsaw fits in a particular place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, John Cotter said: In the same way that you know a piece of a jigsaw fits in a particular place? That's a non-answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: That's a non-answer. As The Dude said, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95kNwZw8YY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 No, it's a non-answer because articles of faith aren't factual details. In other words, your response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95kNwZw8YY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: No, it's a non-answer because articles of faith aren't factual details. In other words, your response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95kNwZw8YY I see that The Dude abides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Anyone have a real answer? 2 hours ago, Matt Allison said: How do you know the plotters picked the TSBD on or prior to October 3rd 1963? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Lowe Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt Allison said: How do you know the plotters picked the TSBD on or prior to October 3rd 1963? Because you don’t plan that complex a crime, with all its odd tentacles, both intelligence and non intelligence, at the last minute. The logistics, the political requirements, the need for immediate follow up and cover up, from the hospital to the autopsy. That’s common sense. You don’t leave it to chance. It’s clear that JFK was being stalked, not confronted with chance plots. Edited October 27, 2022 by Allen Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Allen Lowe said: Because you don’t plan that complex a crime, with all its odd tentacles, both intelligence and non intelligence, at the last minute. Wrong. "But Jackie, if somebody wants to shoot me from a window with a rifle, nobody can stop it, so why worry about it?" - JFK 11/22/63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt Allison said: How do you know the plotters picked the TSBD on or prior to October 3rd 1963? The answer is they didn't. It wasn't necessary to do such a thing. The entire motorcade through Dallas was one long opportunity to shoot JFK from a building with a rifle. This was not a moon shot that needed weeks of planning. And JFK agreed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I think the planning of the actual logistics, potential cities, source of shooters and more started in earnest with Bill Harvey's trip to Florida in was it March or April 1963 to go on a fishing trip with Johnny Roselli. With likely David Morales along or back at the motel. This may be mentioned in Tipping Point, I can't remember for sure but Larry Hancock has commented on this meeting before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Lowe Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Matt Allison said: The answer is they didn't. It wasn't necessary to do such a thing. The entire motorcade through Dallas was one long opportunity to shoot JFK from a building with a rifle. This was not a moon shot that needed weeks of planning. And JFK agreed with me. We’ll hold a séance later to see if JFK agrees. As for the rest of what you say, it really doesn’t add up with any logic. A president is coming to town, they don’t say to themselves “oh there’s 40 places we can get him so what’s the rush, and we’ll figure it out at the last minute.“ This was a President of the United States. A president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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