The Clean Cut Throat Wound

[Gerry Down]

JFKs throat wound was described by the Parkland doctors as a relatively clean cut circular wound. This fooled them into thinking it must have been an entrance wound. However a bullet entering JFKs back and exiting his throat would also create such a clean cut exit wound on the throat IF it was shored up by a shirt held firm by a neck tie. This is called shoring and explains how an exit wound on JFKs throat could be so clean cut.

The same principle can be found in woodworking. Check out 3 minutes 30 seconds on this video which shows how shoring can transform a rough cut into a smooth cut:

 

[Michael Crane]

Um,

The back wound that was about 6 inches down from JFK's neck did not transit.

It penetrated less than a fingers depth.

Nice try though  😉

Edited March 1, 2023 by Michael Crane

[David Von Pein]

41 minutes ago, Michael Crane said:

The back wound that was about 6 inches down from JFK's neck did not transit.

That must be why the autopsy doctors unambiguously said (in their own autopsy report) that the bullet did exit the throat:

"The missile contused the strap muscles of the right side of the neck, damaged the trachea and made its exit through the anterior surface of the neck."  [WCR, p.543]

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by David Von Pein

[Michael Crane]

Come on David,don't play games with me Mr.You probably read the 3rd version of the Official Autopsy Report.

If I'm not mistaken..Humes was chastised by Pierre Finck for using his finger to probe the wound.

If the autopsy doctors did say such a thing...they were probably visited by Secret Service agent Elmer Moore 😉

Edited March 1, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Pat Speer]

18 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:

That must be why the autopsy doctors unambiguously said (in their own autopsy report) that the bullet did exit the throat:

"The missile contused the strap muscles of the right side of the neck, damaged the trachea and made its exit through the anterior surface of the neck."  [WCR, p.543]

 

Oh, c'mon, you know damn well they never established such a trajectory, but presumed one due to the bruising at the FRONT in back of the throat. Specter realized that this was weak sauce, for that matter, and from thereon claimed the bruising on the strap muscles was on the back. Only...ding ding ding...there are no strap muscles on the back through which a bullet could slide, only one flat trapezius muscle, which Hume claimed reveled no entrance into the underlying tissue. 

So...the scientific facts are that they found no transit from back to front, but that one was conjured up anyhow. 

[Pat Speer]

1 hour ago, Gerry Down said:

JFKs throat wound was described by the Parkland doctors as a relatively clean cut circular wound. This fooled them into thinking it must have been an entrance wound. However a bullet entering JFKs back and exiting his throat would also create such a clean cut exit wound on the throat IF it was shored up by a shirt held firm by a neck tie. This is called shoring and explains how an exit wound on JFKs throat could be so clean cut.

The same principle can be found in woodworking. Check out 3 minutes 30 seconds on this video which shows how shoring can transform a rough cut into a smooth cut:

 

This is a LN myth, Gerry. Charles Petty of the HSCA FPP wrote a textbook including a section on shored exits. In it he claimed shored exits are inevitably larger than the entrance wounds made by this same bullet. 

[Michael Crane]

Sick'em Pat.  

Edited March 2, 2023 by Michael Crane

[David Von Pein]

1 hour ago, Pat Speer said:

So...the scientific facts are that they found no transit from back to front, but that one was conjured up anyhow. 

A couple of basic (common-sense) facts that CTers never want to acknowledge:

1. There were no bullets in Kennedy.

2. There wasn't enough damage in Kennedy to account for a bullet just stopping on a dime inside JFK's body, let alone TWO missiles performing such a ridiculous task. (And by far the favored theory amongst CTers is the proverbial "Two Bullets Entered JFK But Neither One Exited" load of bunk.)

And, of course, the Clark Panel DID find a "track" between the throat wound and the back wound:

"There is a track between the two cutaneous wounds as indicated by subcutaneous emphysema and small metallic fragments on the X-rays and the contusion of the apex of the right lung and laceration of the trachea described in the Autopsy Report."  -- Clark Panel Report

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-1968-clark-panel-report.html

(Now awaiting Pat Speer's regularly scheduled trashing of the Clark Panel's report and its top member.)

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by David Von Pein

[Gerry Down]

19 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:

This is a LN myth, Gerry. Charles Petty of the HSCA FPP wrote a textbook including a section on shored exits. In it he claimed shored exits are inevitably larger than the entrance wounds made by this same bullet. 

Were those photos taken of a gunshot wound through a living person or a cadaver that had been dead for months? 

Living tissue would have more elasticity to it, would bow out more at the exit point of the bullet where the exit hole would be made, and therefore would constrict more once the skin returned to its original position after the bullet had exited - creating a smaller exit hole. 

The more the skin bows out before the bullet breaks through, the smaller the hole will look once the skin retracts back to its original position after the bullet has made its hole and left the body. 

This would explain why the Parkland doctors estimated the hole looked around 5mm in diameter. 

[Michael Crane]

11 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:

1. There were no bullets in Kennedy.

Ahem.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Michael Crane

[David Von Pein]

9 minutes ago, Michael Crane said:

You're propping up early erroneous information, Michael. And you surely know it's erroneous. There was no bullet "lodged behind the President's ear". And that fact was proven at the autopsy.

Why should I believe all three autopsy surgeons lied about many things concerning the autopsy?

If you want to think they all lied....fine. But I'm not travelling down that road.

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by David Von Pein

[Michael Crane]

Not my info,I am just the messenger.

 Administrative Technician Dennis David held a vial containing more bullet fragments than a single bullet & less than two bullets.

This damn evidence just mysteriously disappears in this case like Siegfried & Roy.

Edited March 2, 2023 by Michael Crane

[Micah Mileto]

1 hour ago, David Von Pein said:

That must be why the autopsy doctors unambiguously said (in their own autopsy report) that the bullet did exit the throat:

"The missile contused the strap muscles of the right side of the neck, damaged the trachea and made its exit through the anterior surface of the neck."  [WCR, p.543]

Why couldn't an entering bullet have caused bruising of the strap muscles on the front of the neck?

 

Also, we should be skeptical of the pathologists' description of the strap muscles. Perry and McClelland described cutting through the strap muscles, yet I do not think the pathologists made a single statement describing a surgical defect on the muscles  They described bruising on the middle, but not scalpel cuts.

Edited March 2, 2023 by Micah Mileto

[Micah Mileto]

25 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:

Why should I believe all three autopsy surgeons lied about many things concerning the autopsy?

The HSCA literally accused the pathologists of lying about their memory... Of a bullet wound behind the President's ear.

[Gerry Down]

54 minutes ago, Michael Crane said:

Ahem.

 

Why did the FBI take Oswalds rifle but not his pistol?

Its almost as if the FBI were treating the case as two separate murders - the Presidents which they were interested in and Tippits which they were not interested in and were leaving that to the DPD.