Gil Jesus Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gram Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I haven’t watched yet but O’Neill’s book absolutely eviscerates Bugliosi’s credibility and makes him look like a total narcissistic clown. Jim D., Pat Speer and others have done quite a number on Bugliosi’s JFK book, but O’Neill takes it to a whole new level and paints a portrait of an abusive egomaniacal stalker who lied, suppressed evidence and suborned perjury in the pursuit of personal fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Jesus Posted March 22, 2023 Author Share Posted March 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tom Gram said: I haven’t watched yet but O’Neill’s book absolutely eviscerates Bugliosi’s credibility and makes him look like a total narcissistic clown. Jim D., Pat Speer and others have done quite a number on Bugliosi’s JFK book, but O’Neill takes it to a whole new level and paints a portrait of an abusive egomaniacal stalker who lied, suppressed evidence and suborned perjury in the pursuit of personal fame. Agreed. TRUE CRIME PODCAST, Episode 53 --- Vincent Bugliosi Was A Creep https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-ep-53-vincent-bugliosi-was-a-creep/id1495280879?i=1000536832053 Some people here still consider him some sort of credible expert. The guy was a nut case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Robertson Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Here’s the full https://atwaatwar.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-vince-bugliosi-story-16-3-mb.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Tom Gram said: I haven’t watched yet but O’Neill’s book absolutely eviscerates Bugliosi’s credibility and makes him look like a total narcissistic clown. Jim D., Pat Speer and others have done quite a number on Bugliosi’s JFK book, but O’Neill takes it to a whole new level and paints a portrait of an abusive egomaniacal stalker who lied, suppressed evidence and suborned perjury in the pursuit of personal fame. Book released though in 2019, 4 years after Bugliosi died and not in a position to refute any accusations against him. Did O'Neill put any of these accusations to Bugliosi while he was still alive and in a position to refute them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Gram Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gerry Down said: Book released though in 2019, 4 years after Bugliosi died and not in a position to refute any accusations against him. Did O'Neill put any of these accusations to Bugliosi while he was still alive and in a position to refute them? Yes he did, repeatedly, and recorded Bugliosi’s answers. If I recall there are several verbatim transcripts of conversations with Bugliosi in O’Neill‘s book. They aren’t very flattering, to put it mildly. O’Neill also published several primary source documents from the Manson case, including one example of Bugliosi suppressing evidence in Bugliosi’s own handwriting. I would read the book and decide for yourself. Edited March 22, 2023 by Tom Gram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tom Gram said: Yes he did, repeatedly, and recorded Bugliosi’s answers. If I recall there are several verbatim transcripts of conversations with Bugliosi in O’Neill‘s book. They aren’t very flattering, to put it mildly. O’Neill also published several primary source documents from the Manson case, including one example of Bugliosi suppressing evidence in Bugliosi’s own handwriting. I would read the book and decide for yourself. Oh ok, I didn't realize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crane Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Did Bugliosi subscribe to the "the tumbling bullet"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Michael Crane said: Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Just in.... this is funny hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Robbie Robertson said: Here’s the full https://atwaatwar.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/the-vince-bugliosi-story-16-3-mb.pdf OMG this guy was full on whack job. This is the guy @David Von Pein holds up to say wrote the most comprehensive examination of the JFKA and Warren Report ever done? Something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Jesus Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob Ness said: OMG this guy was full on whack job. This is the guy @David Von Pein holds up to say wrote the most comprehensive examination of the JFKA and Warren Report ever done? Something like that? When he is guilty of : abusing the power of his officefalsification of evidenceperjury in his sworn depositionscomplicity in the obstruction of justiceslander of innocent people What does it say about the man's credibility ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Mellor Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: Did Bugliosi subscribe to the "the tumbling bullet"? If it was a Warren Commission verdict, then Bugliosi subscribed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 So Bugliosi was a nutter. How appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Jesus Posted March 23, 2023 Author Share Posted March 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Gerry Down said: Book released though in 2019, 4 years after Bugliosi died and not in a position to refute any accusations against him. Did O'Neill put any of these accusations to Bugliosi while he was still alive and in a position to refute them? Funny how you apply one standard to Bugliosi and another to Lee Harvey Oswald. You cringe at the thought of a book critical of a subject being published after its subject is dead. But Oswald was dead when the FBI's summary report named him as President Kennedy's assassin. You don't have any problem with that, do you ? You cry unfair that Bugliosi didn't have the opportunity to refute accusations against him, like his denial would somehow convince you of his innocence. While at the same time you still don't believe Oswald, who DID refute ( quite emphatically ) the accusations against him. So what's up with this double standard of yours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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