Douglas Caddy Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Paul, you asked, "In your work for or with Hunt, did you Doug know anything about his career that would lead you to believe that Army intelligence would have documents on him we have yet to see? " The answer is no.
David Andrews Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Carl Oglesby on the Dorothy Hunt crash. Sorry, no transcript. https://aadl.org/node/195839
Paul Rigby Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, David Andrews said: Carl Oglesby on the Dorothy Hunt crash. Sorry, no transcript. https://aadl.org/node/195839 Good to be reminded of Oglesby's piece. Also well worth a look is Barbara Morris Freed's chapter on Flight 553 within the Steve Weissman-edited anthology Big Brother and the Holding Company: The World Behind Watergate (Ramparts Press, 1974): https://archive.org/details/bigbrotherholdi00weis/page/n5/mode/2up
David Andrews Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Paul Rigby said: Good to be reminded of Oglesby's piece. Also well worth a look is Barbara Morris Freed's chapter on Flight 553 within the Steve Weissman-edited anthology Big Brother and the Holding Company: The World Behind Watergate (Ramparts Press, 1974): https://archive.org/details/bigbrotherholdi00weis/page/n5/mode/2up Thanks!
Matt Allison Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Ever flown into or out of Midway here in Chicago? It's right in the middle of a southside neighborhood. Its runway is 2,000 feet shorter than most. Landing there in zero visibility was/is suicidal. There is nothing mysterious about UA 355. Nothing.
Paul Rigby Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: Ever flown into or out of Midway here in Chicago? It's right in the middle of a southside neighborhood. Its runway is 2,000 feet shorter than most. Landing there in zero visibility was/is suicidal. There is nothing mysterious about UA 355. Nothing. Dwight L Chapin endorses this message.
Matt Allison Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Well Paul, everyone here knows you never let facts get in the way of a pet conspiracy theory.
Leslie Sharp Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) On 7/5/2023 at 10:54 PM, Matt Allison said: Some info on that here: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2023/157-10005-10228.pdf Thanks, Matt. FWIW, No one was more interested in Pash than Albarelli. The challenge was to distinguish the ongoing operations around the world — including Pash's, Hunt's, Harvey's, Angleton's, et al which obviously involved overlapping agencies and individuals — from the plot to kill JFK. We argued, and I continue to, it's time 'the community' writ large stops obsessing on the patsy and Cuba and focuses solely on the mechanics and the middle guys which lead to who authorized and financed Dealey and guaranteed the cover-up. Soup to nuts. Edited July 7, 2023 by Leslie Sharp
David Andrews Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, Paul Rigby said: Good to be reminded of Oglesby's piece. Also well worth a look is Barbara Morris Freed's chapter on Flight 553 within the Steve Weissman-edited anthology Big Brother and the Holding Company: The World Behind Watergate (Ramparts Press, 1974): https://archive.org/details/bigbrotherholdi00weis/page/n5/mode/2up Sidebar for the interested: Steve Weissman, editor of the volume referred to, was a contributor to the book, The CIA in Western Europe (1982), which I can only locate in a German-language version. Author(s): Günter Neuberger; Michael Opperskalski; Yiannis Roubatis; Murray Waas; Steve Weissman; Karen Wynn; John Marks; Philip Agee Publisher: Lamuv Verlag, Year: 1982 ISBN: 3921521599,9783921521595 https://archive.org/details/cia-in-westeuropa/page/14/mode/2up Weissman also wrote What Really Happened in Congo: The CIA, the Murder of Lumumba, and the Rise of Mobutu, available as a 2014 audiobook. https://www.amazon.com/What-Really-Happened-Congo-Lumumba/dp/B00MVCDHHI/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1688822365&refinements=p_27%3AStephen+R.+Weissman&s=books&sr=1-1 Edited July 8, 2023 by David Andrews
Jonathan Cohen Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 20 hours ago, Paul Rigby said: Dwight L Chapin endorses this message. It’s jaw-dropping that people on this forum believe absolutely preposterous nonsense such as the CIA murdering Dorothy Hunt (and dozens of innocent people for no reason…).
David Andrews Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) ...preposterous nonsense such as the CIA murdering Dorothy Hunt (and dozens of innocent people for no reason…). From the Weissman book, and discussed in other sources: That week there had been a gas-pipeline lobbyists' conference held in conjunction with an American Bar Association meeting in Washington, D.C. Among those attending were Ralph Blodgett and James W. Kreuger, both attorneys for Northern Natural Gas Company of Omaha, Nebraska. Other associates with them on the plane were Lon Bayer, attorney for Kansas- Nebraska Natural Gas Company, and Wilbur Erickson, president of the Federal Land Bank of Omaha. Three months prior to this Washington meeting, some officials of Northern Natural Gas Company and its subsidiaries, including the mayor of Hammond, Indiana, and city officials of East Chicago, Indiana, had come under federal criminal indictment in Omaha, Nebraska; Chicago, Illinois; and Hammond, Indiana. The charge was bribery of local officials in northwest Indiana and Illinois, for the purpose of securing contracts to put through a multi-million-dollar pipeline system. Their corporate destiny at stake, Northern fought back: against the indictments they pitted the "Mitchell Papers." These blackmail documents purported to reveal illegal acts of conspiracy between former Attorney General John Mitchell and the Justice Department with Northern's fiercest competitor, El Paso Natural Gas Company, along the lines of the ITT scandal. In 1969, the Justice Department, then headed by Attorney General Mitchell, had dropped pending anti-trust charges against El Paso. And it was not until approximately three years after this fact, in March 1973, that a spokesman for Mitchell belatedly claimed that Attorney General Mitchell had "disqualified" himself from that 1969 decision because, admittedly, his law firm did represent El Paso Natural Gas Company. But the main results, and collusion, of that 1969 decision had long since transcended the belated, unsubstantiated Mitchell dis- claimer: 1. The charges against El Paso had been dropped. 2. Almost simultaneously, John Mitchell, through a law partner as nominee, received stock interest in El Paso. 3. El Paso was later to contribute heavily to Mitchell's Committee to Re-Elect the President. 4. The favorable decision to drop anti-trust charges was worth an estimated $300 million to El Paso.* Northern's legal hatchetmen boarded Flight 553, though they had previously been warned that they would never live to reach Chicago. Edited July 8, 2023 by David Andrews
Douglas Caddy Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said: It’s jaw-dropping that people on this forum believe absolutely preposterous nonsense such as the CIA murdering Dorothy Hunt (and dozens of innocent people for no reason…). So, I gather you don't believe the CIA was involved in the assassination of President Kennedy either.
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