Gil Jesus Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) From those of us who hope that one day we will live in an America that the Kennedys and Dr. King gave their lives for. Where people are judged not by the color of their skin or their political affiliation, but by the content of their character. Where we can see our countrymen as not this-American or that-American, but simply Americans. Where the government has no secrets from the people. Some people hate her for what she was, I prefer to love her for what she is. Happy birthday, America. Long may you run. Edited July 4, 2023 by Gil Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 God Bless America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Mellor Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Nice one Ron! Here's another Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Happy birthday, USA. When are you going to grow up? Growing up often comes with disillusionment. But disillusionment is better than illusionment. For instance, it would be good if you could accept that you’re not America, that America was there before you, that you’re only one part of one part of America – the USA part – and it would be good if you could behave accordingly. Ever since I first heard this song back in the 1980s, it has reminded me of you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa2cQ46vAnA Edited July 4, 2023 by John Cotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Benjamin Cole Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, John Cotter said: Happy birthday, USA. When are you going to grow up? Growing up often comes with disillusionment. But disillusionment is better than illusionment. For instance, it would be good if you could accept that you’re not America, that America was there before you, that you’re only one part of one part of America – the USA part – and it would be good if you could behave accordingly. Ever since I first heard this song back in the 1980s, it has reminded me of you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa2cQ46vAnA JC- Agree somewhat, but there is a problem. We need another word for "Americans." I try to use "US citizens" when I can, but the construction can be clumsy. Also, when I am asked my nationality in SE Asia, people expect to hear "American." If I answer, "I am a US citizen," they ask, "Oh, where did you come from?"---meaning, they infer I migrated to the US. Beaten down, I now answer, "American." But you are correct, Mexican nationals are Americans, Canadians are Americans, technically anyone in the New World is an American. Even people in Terra del Fuego. And forgive us a little national pride on July 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 My opinion of the United States of America is one of pride tempered by realism. Slavery was a part of our history, and until we're ready to discuss it openly, and not ban teaching it in our classrooms, we will never be able to fully appreciate how we got to where we are today. We mouth the words "...and liberty and justice for all," but those words ring hollow until every citizen enjoys the same rights as those around them. Indigenous people on reservations don't have the same access to clean, running water as citizens elsewhere. Native Americans often must drive or be transported long distances to exercise their right to vote...while many whites have polling locations much more convenient to where they live. Until all US citizens truly have equal rights, we are still in pursuit of that "more perfect union" of which the preamble to our constitution speaks. And lately, it would seem that the US is regressing in that regard. My love of the nation requires that I do what I can to promote progress toward that "more perfect union" that the Founding Fathers saw as a worthwhile goal for our country. Repairing the flaws hasn't been, and will never be, painless. But the first step to fixing the problem is to acknowledge that the problem exists...no matter what the problem is. Certain US citizens weren't free on July 4, 1776. Some weren't nominally free until June 19, 1865. Some weren't free to exercise the full rights of citizenship before 1965. And some are still seeking equality. So, like Columbus Day, July 4 also has a different meaning to certain citizens than to the white majority. And rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 This song has been appropriated by the right. But near all of us on the left are Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Well said, Mark. I must also confess that the 4th of July has always been my least favorite holiday, ever since the escalation of the Vietnam War, following JFK's murder. I'm not proud of America's misguided militarism. It troubles me. Fireworks are exploding in my neighborhood as I write this, and I'm wondering why Americans are so enamored of guns and "bombs bursting in air." I had a falling out with some relatives on July 4, 2003, because I was so disgusted with Bush & Cheney's invasion of Iraq that I refused to attend a July 4th celebration. My father was a decorated WWII combat veteran, but I never saw him wave a flag or go to a parade. He was skeptical about American jingoism and "patriotism." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) It's still the 4th of July in the mountain states and further west. Edited July 5, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 What Woody Guthrie wrote in response to God Bless America, which he thought too, I don't remember the quote, cheesy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 8 hours ago, John Cotter said: Happy birthday, USA. When are you going to grow up? Growing up often comes with disillusionment. But disillusionment is better than illusionment. For instance, it would be good if you could accept that you’re not America, that America was there before you, that you’re only one part of one part of America – the USA part – and it would be good if you could behave accordingly. Ever since I first heard this song back in the 1980s, it has reminded me of you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa2cQ46vAnA John's selection, everything he's always wanted to say to us. Is a song,: "Are you ready to be heartbroken, America?" Whew! John is truly the King of Pain- He has suffered so much! Oh but only if we Americans had suffered as much as he- maybe then John wouldn't be so misunderstood which is an even greater tragedy than the heartbreak itself If only a major economic devastation could befall America- or perhaps a plague greater than any known in history then maybe after a decade of misery. Just maybe we could finally, truly see the pain in John's eyes. And truly appreciate how he suffered for our smiles, and for once, fathom the pain of John's crucifixion at the cross of our seeming indifference, Then it all would be truly worth it. Then John could rest in peace again- then awaken with a newfound sense of purpose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: John's selection, everything he's always wanted to say to us. Is a song,: "Are you ready to be heartbroken, America?" Whew! John is truly the King of Pain- He has suffered so much! Oh but only if we Americans had suffered as much as he- maybe then John wouldn't be so misunderstood which is an even greater tragedy than the heartbreak itself If only a major economic devastation could befall America- or perhaps a plague greater than any known in history then maybe after a decade of misery. Just maybe we could finally, truly see the pain in John's eyes. And truly appreciate how he suffered for our smiles, and for once, fathom the pain of John's crucifixion at the cross of our seeming indifference, Then it all would be truly worth it. Then John could rest in peace again- then awaken with a newfound sense of purpose! You seem to be feeling the pain already, Kirk. My heart goes out to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Rigby Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/it-is-time-for-america-to-declare It is time for America to declare its independence from the CIA SCOTT RITTER JUL 4, 2023 The CIA prides itself on being called the clandestine service. Webster’s Dictionary defines the term clandestine (an adjective) to mean “kept secret or done secretively, especially because illicit.” I was therefore quite surprised when, on July 1, 2023, during a lecture delivered to the Ditchley Foundation in the United Kingdom, William Burns, the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), declared that “Disaffection with the war [Russia’s ongoing Special Military Operation in Ukraine] will continue to gnaw away at the Russian leadership, beneath the steady diet of state propaganda and practiced repression. That disaffection creates a once-in-a-generation opportunity for us at CIA, at our core a human intelligence service.” Not too clandestine there, Mr. Director. My experience with human intelligence collection, while dated, is sufficient to know that the less you speak about it, the better your results will be. But Burns’ statement was not the first time that the agency he heads has gone public regarding its desire to exploit what it assessed to be the disaffection with the war in Ukraine among military officers and oligarchs who have been impacted by the war. Back in November 2022, David Marlowe, the CIA’s Deputy Director for Operations, told an audience at George Mason University that the CIA “was open for business,” actively looking for “Russians who are as disgusted with [Putin’s actions in invading Ukraine] as we are.” It's not just that Burns and Marlowe have gone public with the who, what, where, and why of the CIA’s desire to recruit new Russian spies—they violated every maxim in the intelligence business by emphasizing the “how,” in particular the CIA’s new recruitment tactic of trolling for spies online, using social media platforms such as Telegram to reach out to prospective agents and provide them with a self-described “secure” means of contacting a CIA case officer, who would be only too pleased to process their application. During my time as an intelligence professional, I was involved—peripherally and directly—in the recruitment, running, and debriefing of several human intelligence assets (i.e., spies.) One thing that every operation that I was involved in had in common was the absolute requirement for intimate person-to-person contact between the agent and his handlers. From the time of its funding, the CIA had used a process known as MICE (Money, Ideology, Coercion or Compromise, Ego) to encapsulate their approach to understanding the fundamental question of “why do people spy?” The case of Aldrich Ames, a CIA officer who betrayed some of the CIA’s most sensitive secrets to the Soviet Union in the 1980’s and ‘90’s, prompted the CIA to take a more sophisticated look at what would motivate a person to betray their country and/or cause. Borrowing from the principles of psychology used to describe the ideal “weapons of mass influence,” the CIA switched from MICE to RASCLS (Reciprocation, Authority, Scarcity, Commitment and Consistency, Liking, and Social Proof) to best capture the complexities of the human condition when called upon to spy. All of these relate, directly or indirectly, to the absolute requirement of person-to-person, or human-to-human, connectivity, something the internet, for all of its utility, is lacking. For all of you want-to-be spies out there, let me remind you of one simple fact—the CIA sucks at human intelligence, especially when it comes to Russia. What few good spies they manage to pull into their stable (Oleg Penkovsky, of Cuban Missile Crisis fame, and Adolf Tolkachev, the so-called “billion dollar spy”) were walk-ins—volunteers who recruited the CIA, as opposed to the other way around, and both were ultimately arrested and executed because of security lapses on the part of the CIA (i.e., allowing their identities to be known by persons who betrayed them to the Russians). If anything, the CIA has gotten worse at recruiting and running Russian agents since the collapse of the Soviet Union. The CIA’s “best” Russian spy, whose information former CIA Director John Brennan used to convince Barack Obama that the Russians were actively supporting Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential election, turned out to be a double agent fed by to the CIA by the Russians. Moreover, the CIA’s Moscow Station, once the premier assignment for career spies, atrophied in the lax era of the 1990’s, when it practically ran the Russian President (Boris Yeltsin) as an agent, and therefore didn’t really need to work to get Russia to comply with American national security priorities. The CIA suffered a series of embarrassing intelligence failures which resulted in the Moscow Station being gutted when the case officers assigned there were rounded up repeatedly by their Russian counterparts as they tried in vain to recruit and manage their Russian agents, most if not all of whom were likewise compromised and arrested. The inability of the CIA to gain any traction using the traditional methodologies of spy craft involving human assets led the agency to reexamine its practices. Of particular concern were the cumbersome and risky processes involved in making physical contact with an agent in hostile territory such as Moscow, where Russian counterintelligence officers monitored the CIA officer’s every move. Meetings such as these required expert execution of what is known in the intelligence business as “tradecraft,” a skill set which, if not exercised regularly, rapidly atrophies, and dies. The post-9/11 global war on terror, with its heavy demand on using local populations to gather intelligence on embedded terrorist cells, served as an incubator of innovation, especially among US military human intelligence collectors who used this kind of information on a tactical level. A special internet-based communications system was devised which allowed human assets to contact their American military handlers with time sensitive information. CIA paramilitary operatives piggy-backed on to this communication means, and soon it was being used by the CIA’s case officers to manage the communications for agent networks that had been recruited over the course of decades in places like Iran, China, and Russia. In October 2021, however, the top counterintelligence officials in the US intelligence community warned every CIA station and base around the world that this system had been compromised, resulting in dozens of agents being arrested and executed. The communications system was computer-based, involving internet communications. While the US counterintelligence community initially focused on someone from within compromising the system to a hostile foreign intelligence agency, in the end it was determined that the intelligence service of Iran simply used its understanding of how the internet system worked to reverse engineer the connectivity between the CIA and its agents. And now the CIA wants to use the internet yet again as the principal vehicle for attracting a new generation of spies. Not to fear, the CIA notes: its new internet communications scheme is based upon the dark web, using “onion routing,” or Tor, software. Left unsaid is the fact that the FBI and CIA have been “uncloaking” Tor users for more than a decade by using de-anonymizing techniques. What is good for the goose is good for the gander, and anyone who doesn’t believe Russian computer security agencies lack the expertise to do the same are delusional. In short, the system the CIA is proposing to use as its “flagship” approach toward recruiting human agents inside Russia is, literally, a death trap. But, then again, the CIA sucks at human intelligence, especially inside Russia. Burns knows this. So does Marlowe. So should any Russian thinking about using Telegram or Tor to contact the CIA. Which leads me to believe that the announcement by the CIA is little more than a PR campaign designed to distract Congress away from the fact that the CIA has been wrong on Russia across the board, from the impact of economic sanctions to the capabilities of the Russian armed forces, and everything in between. In short, the CIA is running a psychological operation against the American people and those whom we elect to represent us, yet another lie in a string of lies dating back to the agency’s birth in 1947 that adds credence to the increasing calls for its dissolution. Today is Independence Day. Perhaps there isn’t a better way to express our love of nation than expunging the cancerous growth that is the CIA from the American body. We, the people, stand for truth and justice. The CIA is built on a foundation of lies and deceit. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who is challenging Joe Biden to be the candidate of the Democratic Party in the 2024 presidential election, is on to something—it is time to abolish this American abomination. Happy Independence Day, America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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