Benjamin Cole Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 The Latest From JFK Facts Biden's JFK Edict On assassination records, the president adopted the CIA's ill-named 'transparency plan' JEFFERSON MORLEY SEP 4 READ IN APP It happened on June 30, 2023: “Late on Friday Night, Biden Gutted the JFK Records Act.” JFK Facts told the story before anyone else: The president had washed his hands of the JFK assassination files. Hopefully, we will get an update from Larry Schnapf soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Geez....where have we seen this redundant MAGA Ben Cole anti-Biden spiel before? 🙄 Ben has now started about 20 redundant EF threads about this exact same topic-- Biden's decision to withhold the JFK records. In comparison, there have been 1 or 2 EF threads (since September of 2020) about Trump's historic decision to block the release of the JFK records. They are on the Political Discussions board, where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: The Latest From JFK Facts Biden's JFK Edict On assassination records, the president adopted the CIA's ill-named 'transparency plan' JEFFERSON MORLEY SEP 4 READ IN APP It happened on June 30, 2023: “Late on Friday Night, Biden Gutted the JFK Records Act.” JFK Facts told the story before anyone else: The president had washed his hands of the JFK assassination files. Hopefully, we will get an update from Larry Schnapf soon. Can you copy and paste what Morley wrote, I'm not willing to pay to subscribe to info I think should be free. Otherwise this post is just a headline.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Can you copy and paste what Morley wrote, I'm not willing to pay to subscribe to info I think should be free. Otherwise this post is just a headline.. MK- Yeah, I live in SE Asia and no longer have a credit card, and PayPal ceased service in my country for non-nationals. I am not a subscriber. So, I post these as FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) I don't know why this was moved here. Morley is describing the White House's latest move which is very important in regards to the last of the JFK documents and the legacy of the JFK Act. Therefore its not political. It is a direct connection to the assassination. William tries to equate this with Trump, but Trump is not president anymore. Biden is. And has been for going on three years. And he is the guy who is actually trying to revise the JFK Act of 1992 into something it was not and should not be. Edited September 5, 2023 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: I don't know why this was moved here. Morley is describing the White House's latest move which is very important in regards to the last of the JFK documents and the legacy of the JFK Act. Therefore its not political. It is a direct connection to the assassination. William tries to equate this with Trump, but Trump is not president anymore. Biden is. And has been for going on three years. And he is the guy who is not actually trying to revise the JFK Act of 1992 into something it was not and should not be. Jim, How many redundant Ben Cole threads do we need on the same topic of denouncing Biden's "snuff job" on the JFK records, in your opinion? Also, shouldn't we be fair-and-balanced about condemning Biden's snuff job and Trump's snuff job on the JFK records? They both caved. The unfortunate truth is that America's political future has, apparently, devolved to a choice between Biden Democrats and Trump's right wing MAGA cult. Bernie Sanders said as much during the past week-- that people need to support Biden to keep Trump and his climate change denying reactionaries out of D.C. Given our binary political options, Ben's incessant Biden-bashing is, by default, Trump-promoting. It's toxic. Under the circumstances, I opted to be fair-and-balanced on this thread by sharing a Trump meme, to go with Ben's Biden meme (above.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Trump took many hits when he was president. And we did some in Oliver Stone's film. But this ultimate conversion of the law, this is from Biden's White House. And its recent. It literally spells the end of the JFK Act. And to me, that is not political. It has everything to do with this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Trump took many hits when he was president. And we did some in Oliver Stone's film. But this ultimate conversion of the law, this is from Biden's White House. And its recent. It literally spells the end of the JFK Act. And to me, that is not political. It has everything to do with this case. Understood. But my point is that, in our current polarized, binary political environment, all attacks on Biden (which happen 24/7 in the right wing media) are, in essence, "political." We all know Biden blocked the release of the JFK records, and we're all angry about it, right? We don't need 20 redundant Ben Cole threads on the subject. Meanwhile, Trump is now pretending to be a heroic victim and adversary of the Deep State-- despite caving to the CIA when he had the authority to allow the JFK records to be released in October of 2017. In a recent campaign speech, Trump even said that he would "obliterate the Deep State," if re-elected. He's attacking the Deep State to aggrandize himself and make excuses for his serial felonies. Trump's recent "obliterate the Deep State" comment reminded me of his 2016 claim that, "When (he) is President, the American people are going to learn who really destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11." Then, after the 2016 election, Trump never uttered a syllable on the subject of 9/11. And he clearly discerned on 9/11 that the WTC Twin Towers were demolished by explosives. It's on video! So, based on his history, there's no reason to believe anything Trump says about anything, including the Deep State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 William: If we do not scream about what Biden did, who will? Have you seen one MSM story about Biden's executive order? I have not. The only stories I have seen were by Andrew Iler at K and K and Morley at Substack. I have several speaking engagements lined up for the anniversary, some live, some podcast. I will be addressing this issue and going after Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: William: If we do not scream about what Biden did, who will? Have you seen one MSM story about Biden's executive order? I have not. The only stories I have seen were by Andrew Iler at K and K and Morley at Substack. I have several speaking engagements lined up for the anniversary, some live, some podcast. I will be addressing this issue and going after Biden. Jim, It's truly appalling that Trump and Biden blocked the release of the JFK records. No argument from me. As for bashing Biden selectively about the issue, do any of us really want to see a deranged psychopath like Donald Trump back in the White House? If nothing else, consider the future consequences for climate change mitigation and GOP stacking of the SCOTUS with more right wing ideologues-- Citizens United, Shelby v. Holder, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, etc. Under the circumstances, IMO, it would be reasonable to include some criticism of Trump's "snuff job" on the JFK records with your criticism of Biden's snuff job. Both Presidents have failed us on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Odisio Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 15 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Jim, It's truly appalling that Trump and Biden blocked the release of the JFK records. No argument from me. As for bashing Biden selectively about the issue, do any of us really want to see a deranged psychopath like Donald Trump back in the White House? If nothing else, consider the future consequences for climate change mitigation and GOP stacking of the SCOTUS with more right wing ideologues-- Citizens United, Shelby v. Holder, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, etc. Under the circumstances, IMO, it would be reasonable to include some criticism of Trump's "snuff job" on the JFK records with your criticism of Biden's snuff job. Both Presidents have failed us on the issue. You keep missing the point, W. Trump merely passed the buck to Biden. With the laughably named "transparency plan" Biden is trying kill use of the JFK Act altogether. It's a "snuff job". If allowed, and the MFF lawsuit is challenging it, it means the end of any attempt to use the law to get access to all the JFK records still being hidden. Not only what the CIA has been hiding, but all the information that has come to light since the ARRB closed 25 years ago. Like the Darnell and Wiegman films. This is why the mods decision to remove this thread from the JFKA is so damaging. Apparently they do not understand how Biden's action goes to the heart of JFKA research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 10:39 AM, Roger Odisio said: You keep missing the point, W. Trump merely passed the buck to Biden. With the laughably named "transparency plan" Biden is trying kill use of the JFK Act altogether. It's a "snuff job". If allowed, and the MFF lawsuit is challenging it, it means the end of any attempt to use the law to get access to all the JFK records still being hidden. Not only what the CIA has been hiding, but all the information that has come to light since the ARRB closed 25 years ago. Like the Darnell and Wiegman films. This is why the mods decision to remove this thread from the JFKA is so damaging. Apparently they do not understand how Biden's action goes to the heart of JFKA research. Roger, We have had some good threads on this subject, with informative commentaries by James DiEugenio, Larry Schnapf, and other forum members. Is there a good reason for starting new, duplicate threads, rather than posting updated commentaries and news on the existing threads? In my study of the Education Forum archives, the standard practice has been for members to post updates on existing threads, rather than starting numerous new, redundant threads on the same subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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