Bethesda autopsy table head rest quirk

[Sean Coleman]

Stumbled on this uncropped pic signed by Paul O’Connor with an interesting post-it note tagged to it, unsure of the signature. 
Is it interesting a different head rest was used, surely the chock block offers more support? Also the positioning of the steel band looks like it should be more just under the occipital proturbance? Or was there nothing there to support it? Or am I imagining things.

 

[Keven Hofeling]

2 hours ago, Sean Coleman said:

Stumbled on this uncropped pic signed by Paul O’Connor with an interesting post-it note tagged to it, unsure of the signature. 
Is it interesting a different head rest was used, surely the chock block offers more support? Also the positioning of the steel band looks like it should be more just under the occipital proturbance? Or was there nothing there to support it? Or am I imagining things.

 

The Paul O'Connor signature appears to be consistent with the signature on this letter to Vince Palamara.

 

As to your question about what remained of the head to support it in the stirrup, according to all accounts, the left side of the back of the head was intact, so it is that side of the head that is flush with the stirrup in the left profile autopsy photograph. 

The right side of the back of the head was missing, and although it is apparent that the right profile autopsy photograph has been staged to obscure that fact, the right side of the head in that photograph does not appear to be flush against the stirrup as it does in the left profile autopsy photograph:

DOUG HORNE TO WILLIAM LAW FROM AT THE COLD SHOULDER OF HISTORY

When we look at the autopsy photos in the collection today, two-thirds of that collection, I would say, just about all of the images except the back of the head and the open cranium view that is out of focus, that is, in all the images where we see the Bethesda towel with the blue stripe, and the metal head rest or stirrup, holding the head of the president while his body is lying supine on the examination table - in those images we are looking at the results of the radical, illicit, clandestine, post mortem cranial surgery. That is why the head wound is so large - you are actually looking at the results of a modified craniotomy done to gain access to the brain so that forensic evidence (bullet fragments and brain tissue) could be removed. In all of these photos JFK's head is resting in a metal stirrup so that you can't see the back of his head in the photos. This was an intentional subterfuge, and it did not require any visual special effects. All these "head in the stirrup" photos, it is clear to me, were taken immediately after the conclusion of the clandestine post mortem cranial surgery, and before the beginning of the "public autopsy." This is why no one present at the "public autopsy" remembers seeing such a metal head brace. For example, neither of the two Navy enlisted autopsy technicians who assisted Humes and Boswell with the autopsy from 8:00 PM until 11:00 PM - Paul O'Connor and James Jenkins - neither of them ever recalled it being used that night at the autopsy (or at any other time, for that matter). It was apparently used only for a quick ten minute photo shoot when very few people were present in the morgue, and then quickly disassembled. The photos taken with JFK's head in the U-shaped head brace, with the pristine towel underneath the head brace, are a con job, meant to persuade the viewer that the enormous damage he is seeing in the images was caused "by the assassin's bullet." The pristine towels are meant to convey the impression that the President's body has just arrived and has not yet been touched by the pathologists. Similarly, the autopsy sketch of the top of the skull made by Boswell on the reverse side of the body diagram (Autopsy Descriptive Sheet) is also a con job, made during the "public autopsy" as he sketched the head trauma supposedly caused by the "assassin's bullet" for posterity. You will note that although Humes said he destroyed - burned - autopsy notes to prevent any documents with blood on them from becoming objects of morbid curiosity, he most certainly did NOT destroy Boswell's sketch of the "head wound," which had blood stains all over it. Of course not! Boswell's drawing had to survive to provide support for the official cover story.

 

Edited August 16 by Keven Hofeling

[Denny Zartman]

William Law's book "In The Eye Of History" has a DVD supplement where Paul O'Connor and Jim Jenkins (among others) discuss different autopsy photos. Unfortunately it seems this supplement is not available for viewing online, and I'm unable to figure out how to display photos here from outside hosts.

Anyway, among other things, Jenkins & O'Connor pretty clear that the autopsy room did not have a metal stirrup attached to the table, as shown in the photo above.

[Sean Coleman]

4 hours ago, Keven Hofeling said:

The Paul O'Connor signature appears to be consistent with the signature on this letter to Vince Palamara.

 

As to your question about what remained of the head to support it in the stirrup, according to all accounts, the left side of the back of the head was intact, so it is that side of the head that is flush with the stirrup in the left profile autopsy photograph. 

The right side of the back of the head was missing, and although it is apparent that the right profile autopsy photograph has been staged to obscure that fact, the right side of the head in that photograph does not appear to be flush against the stirrup as it does in the left profile autopsy photograph:

DOUG HORNE TO WILLIAM LAW FROM AT THE COLD SHOULDER OF HISTORY

When we look at the autopsy photos in the collection today, two-thirds of that collection, I would say, just about all of the images except the back of the head and the open cranium view that is out of focus, that is, in all the images where we see the Bethesda towel with the blue stripe, and the metal head rest or stirrup, holding the head of the president while his body is lying supine on the examination table - in those images we are looking at the results of the radical, illicit, clandestine, post mortem cranial surgery. That is why the head wound is so large - you are actually looking at the results of a modified craniotomy done to gain access to the brain so that forensic evidence (bullet fragments and brain tissue) could be removed. In all of these photos JFK's head is resting in a metal stirrup so that you can't see the back of his head in the photos. This was an intentional subterfuge, and it did not require any visual special effects. All these "head in the stirrup" photos, it is clear to me, were taken immediately after the conclusion of the clandestine post mortem cranial surgery, and before the beginning of the "public autopsy." This is why no one present at the "public autopsy" remembers seeing such a metal head brace. For example, neither of the two Navy enlisted autopsy technicians who assisted Humes and Boswell with the autopsy from 8:00 PM until 11:00 PM - Paul O'Connor and James Jenkins - neither of them ever recalled it being used that night at the autopsy (or at any other time, for that matter). It was apparently used only for a quick ten minute photo shoot when very few people were present in the morgue, and then quickly disassembled. The photos taken with JFK's head in the U-shaped head brace, with the pristine towel underneath the head brace, are a con job, meant to persuade the viewer that the enormous damage he is seeing in the images was caused "by the assassin's bullet." The pristine towels are meant to convey the impression that the President's body has just arrived and has not yet been touched by the pathologists. Similarly, the autopsy sketch of the top of the skull made by Boswell on the reverse side of the body diagram (Autopsy Descriptive Sheet) is also a con job, made during the "public autopsy" as he sketched the head trauma supposedly caused by the "assassin's bullet" for posterity. You will note that although Humes said he destroyed - burned - autopsy notes to prevent any documents with blood on them from becoming objects of morbid curiosity, he most certainly did NOT destroy Boswell's sketch of the "head wound," which had blood stains all over it. Of course not! Boswell's drawing had to survive to provide support for the official cover story.

 

Great points. 
And yes, omg, those clean towels. What a con.

[Keven Hofeling]

1 hour ago, Denny Zartman said:

William Law's book "In The Eye Of History" has a DVD supplement where Paul O'Connor and Jim Jenkins (among others) discuss different autopsy photos. Unfortunately it seems this supplement is not available for viewing online, and I'm unable to figure out how to display photos here from outside hosts.

Anyway, among other things, Jenkins & O'Connor pretty clear that the autopsy room did not have a metal stirrup attached to the table, as shown in the photo above.

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The key question is whether you are able to play the DVD on your computer in able to record the footage and screenshots.

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[Karl Kinaski]

Not only there were no metal head rests in use in the Bethesda morgue. The towel seen in the pic with the metal head rest is an Army towel with an Aesculapian staff on it, not a Navy towel which had no Aesculapian staff on it. 

[Gerry Down]

6 hours ago, Karl Kinaski said:

The towel seen in the pic with the metal head rest is an Army towel with an Aesculapian staff on it, not a Navy towel which had no Aesculapian staff on it. 

Never heard anyone questioning the towel before.

[Pat Speer]

3 hours ago, Gerry Down said:

Never heard anyone questioning the towel before.

I am pretty sure one or more of the Bethesda witnesses has said flat out that that was their towel, but can't recall who this was right now. 

[Karl Kinaski]

@ @Pat Speer: Why should the Navy personel at Bethesda use Army towels? Makes no sense to me. 

@GerryDown.  

The towel story is out since 2017 ... at least ... ( I always thought that the pre-autopsy team was the team which originally shoud have done the "autopsy" at Walter Reed Army hospital. Jacky wanted Bethesda. The Walter Reed team came to Bethesda do to their "job" (pre-autopsy) and brought their own towels: Army towels ...)

Quote, Judyth baker FACEBOOK 2017 ... 

Quote

 
Read, copy and share! THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOULD SEE THIS! A 
SIMPLE LOGO ON A TOWEL AT A HOSPITAL PROVES CONSPIRACY.
Witnesses stated JFK's wounds were altered prior to the carefully-restricted
and incomplete autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital: the throat wound was
grossly enlarged to hide evidence of an entry wound from the front and the
top of the skull was smashed, as if by a hammer. Evidence of gunshot
wounds from the front thus were covered up. The only hospital close enough
to Bethesda was Walter Reed--an ARMY Hospital. NOW SEE PHOTO #1:
JFK is on an autopsy table. We were told this photo was taken at
BETHESDA -- the Navy Hospital where the autopsy was conducted, but the
towel in the photo says otherwise!  
Look carefully at the photo of the hospital blanket insignia under JFK's head.
On photo 2, NOTE the insignia on the towel. It's wrinkled, but it's plainly an
insignia -- a logo. This kind of insignia is found on ARMY hospital towels and
blankets -- NOT on NAVY hospital towels and blankets. 
Would an ARMY towel be under JFK's head in a NAVY Hospital? (Bethesda)
But there it is. Navy towels and blankets didn't have any logos. They only
said "U S NAVY" or "U S N." 
 

 

 

If you want to dive deeper into this morgue business: 

Thread started by David Josephs: 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26517-death-stare-photo-cannot-be-in-bethesda-morgue/

 

Thread started by Keven Hofeling;

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30358-bethesda-old-and-new-morgues-according-to-dealey-plaza-uk-researchers-rick-russo-and-brooks-laplante/

 

 

 

 

Edited September 19 by Karl Kinaski

[Sean Coleman]

On 9/18/2024 at 3:20 PM, Karl Kinaski said:

Not only there were no metal head rests in use in the Bethesda morgue. The towel seen in the pic with the metal head rest is an Army towel with an Aesculapian staff on it, not a Navy towel which had no Aesculapian staff on it. 

Never seen that before. So what does that mean?

[Karl Kinaski]

5 hours ago, Sean Coleman said:

On 9/18/2024 at 4:20 PM, Karl Kinaski said:

Not only there were no metal head rests in use in the Bethesda morgue. The towel seen in the pic with the metal head rest is an Army towel with an Aesculapian staff on it, not a Navy towel which had no Aesculapian staff on it. 

Never seen that before. So what does that mean?

 My guess is that the pre-autopsy (body alteration) team was the one that was originally supposed to perform the 'autopsy' at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Jackie wanted it to take place at Bethesda. The Walter Reed team came to Bethesda to do their 'job' (pre-autopsy) and brought their own towels—Army towels. After that, the official autopsy began. The pre-autopsy was done in Bethesda's old morgue, while the official autopsy, with the official team (not the Walter Reed team), was conducted in Bethesda's new morgue. Today, we have two sets of pictures of Kennedy's body, taken in two  morgues where two different autopsy teams were at work. The Walter Reed team ensured that the injuries would align with the lone gunman scenario. The Bethesda team (in the new morgue), mostly unaware of this, conducted the official autopsy. The participants of the Walter Reed team remain unknown, but they left behind a clue: the Army towels.

 

 

Edited September 20 by Karl Kinaski

[Keven Hofeling]

On 9/19/2024 at 12:03 AM, Karl Kinaski said:

@ @Pat Speer: Why should the Navy personel at Bethesda use Army towels? Makes no sense to me. 

@GerryDown.  

The towel story is out since 2017 ... at least ... ( I always thought that the pre-autopsy team was the team which originally shoud have done the "autopsy" at Walter Reed Army hospital. Jacky wanted Bethesda. The Walter Reed team came to Bethesda do to their "job" (pre-autopsy) and brought their own towels: Army towels ...)

Quote, Judyth baker FACEBOOK 2017 ... 

 

 

If you want to dive deeper into this morgue business: 

Thread started by David Josephs: 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26517-death-stare-photo-cannot-be-in-bethesda-morgue/

 

Thread started by Keven Hofeling;

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30358-bethesda-old-and-new-morgues-according-to-dealey-plaza-uk-researchers-rick-russo-and-brooks-laplante/

 

On 9/19/2024 at 12:03 AM, Karl Kinaski said:

If you want to dive deeper into this morgue business: 

Thread started by David Josephs: 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26517-death-stare-photo-cannot-be-in-bethesda-morgue/

 

Thread started by Keven Hofeling;

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30358-bethesda-old-and-new-morgues-according-to-dealey-plaza-uk-researchers-rick-russo-and-brooks-laplante/

Thread started by David Josephs: 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26517-death-stare-photo-cannot-be-in-bethesda-morgue/

 

Mr. Kinaski, I was unaware of the thread on this topic started by David Josephs before seeing this post of yours. There was very useful information within it that led me to the observations I will share below.

The following EdForum members participated in that thread, who I will tag as follows, in case they have remained interested in this line of inquiry about the Bethesda autopsy: @David Josephs @David Andrews @Ron Bulman @Cliff Varnell @Ray Mitcham @Chris Bristow @Sandy Larsen @Andrej Stancak @Ron Ecker @Joseph McBride @Pete Mellor @Barry Keane @Michael Crane @Neale Safaty 

 

In your post in this thread dated 9/19/24, you highlighted a 2017 Facebook post by Judyth Vary Baker in which she claimed that the towel in the autopsy photograph bore the medical insignia of Walter Reed Army Hospital:

On 9/19/2024 at 12:03 AM, Karl Kinaski said:

Quote, Judyth baker FACEBOOK 2017 ... 

Quote

 
Read, copy and share! THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOULD SEE THIS! A 
SIMPLE LOGO ON A TOWEL AT A HOSPITAL PROVES CONSPIRACY.
Witnesses stated JFK's wounds were altered prior to the carefully-restricted
and incomplete autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital: the throat wound was
grossly enlarged to hide evidence of an entry wound from the front and the
top of the skull was smashed, as if by a hammer. Evidence of gunshot
wounds from the front thus were covered up. The only hospital close enough
to Bethesda was Walter Reed--an ARMY Hospital. NOW SEE PHOTO #1:
JFK is on an autopsy table. We were told this photo was taken at
BETHESDA -- the Navy Hospital where the autopsy was conducted, but the
towel in the photo says otherwise!  
Look carefully at the photo of the hospital blanket insignia under JFK's head.
On photo 2, NOTE the insignia on the towel. It's wrinkled, but it's plainly an
insignia -- a logo. This kind of insignia is found on ARMY hospital towels and
blankets -- NOT on NAVY hospital towels and blankets. 
Would an ARMY towel be under JFK's head in a NAVY Hospital? (Bethesda)
But there it is. Navy towels and blankets didn't have any logos. They only
said "U S NAVY" or "U S N." 
 

 

 

In the David Josephs thread on this subject, Michael Crane had mentioned having a recollection of reading that "the towels say US Naval Hospital Bethesda at the end of the towel if you are wondering if they are Army or Navy towels," and later posted that he thought what he was remembering "came from Robert Groden. He was examining the death stare picture & changed the contrast. When he changed the contrast he said that in changing the contrast, he was able to read what the writing said."

Trying to reproduce this, I found that many of the Stare of Death autopsy photographs online are not of sufficient resolution to see any writing on the towel, but I did finally find one in which some writing was discernable, though not enough to be able to read it:

 

With standard Microsoft editing software, I attempted to reproduce what Michael Crane said Robert Groden had accomplished by adjusting the contrast of the photo in order to be able to read the writing on the towel, but my meager software and editing skills were inadequate to make it clear enough to reliably decipher:

However, after decreasing the size of the text the first word on the second line does resemble the word "Bethesda":

If anybody with a better editing program and better editing skills than my own can reproduce this better than I did, I'd be very interested in knowing with certainty what the words on the towel say.

I, for one, am convinced -- based upon the discrepancies between the headwound reports of the Parkland trauma team vs. the autopsy Protocol, photos and X-rays, as well as the testimony of autopsy participants such as mortician Tom Robinson and Bethesda techs Ed Reed, Jim Jenkins, Paul O'Connor, Jerrol Custer and others -- that a clandestine craniotomy and other body alterations were surgically performed prior to the start of the official autopsy at Bethesda, or at some other location, and would find it to be enormously suggestive if the origin of the towel could be confirmed as being Walter Reed Army Hospital, although I would also be very surprised if this had not been discovered before now, if it is.

 

[Jean Ceulemans]

Bethesda Maryland I see.

Above it it should/could be something like US (or National) Naval Medical Center.  USNMC or NNMC or a combination of some kind. Unless some departments there had their own sheets/towells.

Now, I have never seen an autopsy table that had sheets or towells under the victim?? Or for surgery, never under the patient, could be seriously bugging in case of a procedure to be performed. Odd.

[Keven Hofeling]

4 minutes ago, Jean Ceulemans said:

Bethesda Maryland I see.

Above it it should/could be something like US (or National) Naval Medical Center.  USNMC or NNMC or a combination of some kind. Unless some departments there had their own sheets/towells.

Now, I have never seen an autopsy table that had sheets or towells under the victim?? Or for surgery, never under the patient, could be seriously bugging in case of a procedure to be performed. Odd.

Doug Horne's comments on the towel in bold:

DOUG HORNE TO WILLIAM LAW FROM 'AT THE COLD SHOULDER OF HISTORY'

When we look at the autopsy photos in the collection today, two-thirds of that collection, I would say, just about all of the images except the back of the head and the open cranium view that is out of focus, that is, in all the images where we see the Bethesda towel with the blue stripe, and the metal head rest or stirrup, holding the head of the president while his body is lying supine on the examination table - in those images we are looking at the results of the radical, illicit, clandestine, post mortem cranial surgery. That is why the head wound is so large - you are actually looking at the results of a modified craniotomy done to gain access to the brain so that forensic evidence (bullet fragments and brain tissue) could be removed. In all of these photos JFK's head is resting in a metal stirrup so that you can't see the back of his head in the photos. This was an intentional subterfuge, and it did not require any visual special effects. All these "head in the stirrup" photos, it is clear to me, were taken immediately after the conclusion of the clandestine post mortem cranial surgery, and before the beginning of the "public autopsy." This is why no one present at the "public autopsy" remembers seeing such a metal head brace. For example, neither of the two Navy enlisted autopsy technicians who assisted Humes and Boswell with the autopsy from 8:00 PM until 11:00 PM - Paul O'Connor and James Jenkins - neither of them ever recalled it being used that night at the autopsy (or at any other time, for that matter). It was apparently used only for a quick ten minute photo shoot when very few people were present in the morgue, and then quickly disassembled. The photos taken with JFK's head in the U-shaped head brace, with the pristine towel underneath the head brace, are a con job, meant to persuade the viewer that the enormous damage he is seeing in the images was caused "by the assassin's bullet." The pristine towels are meant to convey the impression that the President's body has just arrived and has not yet been touched by the pathologists. Similarly, the autopsy sketch of the top of the skull made by Boswell on the reverse side of the body diagram (Autopsy Descriptive Sheet) is also a con job, made during the "public autopsy" as he sketched the head trauma supposedly caused by the "assassin's bullet" for posterity. You will note that although Humes said he destroyed - burned - autopsy notes to prevent any documents with blood on them from becoming objects of morbid curiosity, he most certainly did NOT destroy Boswell's sketch of the "head wound," which had blood stains all over it. Of course not! Boswell's drawing had to survive to provide support for the official cover story.

 

[Jean Ceulemans]

16 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:

Doug Horne's comments on the towel in bold:

DOUG HORNE TO WILLIAM LAW FROM 'AT THE COLD SHOULDER OF HISTORY'

When we look at the autopsy photos in the collection today, two-thirds of that collection, I would say, just about all of the images except the back of the head and the open cranium view that is out of focus, that is, in all the images where we see the Bethesda towel with the blue stripe, and the metal head rest or stirrup, holding the head of the president while his body is lying supine on the examination table - in those images we are looking at the results of the radical, illicit, clandestine, post mortem cranial surgery. That is why the head wound is so large - you are actually looking at the results of a modified craniotomy done to gain access to the brain so that forensic evidence (bullet fragments and brain tissue) could be removed. In all of these photos JFK's head is resting in a metal stirrup so that you can't see the back of his head in the photos. This was an intentional subterfuge, and it did not require any visual special effects. All these "head in the stirrup" photos, it is clear to me, were taken immediately after the conclusion of the clandestine post mortem cranial surgery, and before the beginning of the "public autopsy." This is why no one present at the "public autopsy" remembers seeing such a metal head brace. For example, neither of the two Navy enlisted autopsy technicians who assisted Humes and Boswell with the autopsy from 8:00 PM until 11:00 PM - Paul O'Connor and James Jenkins - neither of them ever recalled it being used that night at the autopsy (or at any other time, for that matter). It was apparently used only for a quick ten minute photo shoot when very few people were present in the morgue, and then quickly disassembled. The photos taken with JFK's head in the U-shaped head brace, with the pristine towel underneath the head brace, are a con job, meant to persuade the viewer that the enormous damage he is seeing in the images was caused "by the assassin's bullet." The pristine towels are meant to convey the impression that the President's body has just arrived and has not yet been touched by the pathologists. Similarly, the autopsy sketch of the top of the skull made by Boswell on the reverse side of the body diagram (Autopsy Descriptive Sheet) is also a con job, made during the "public autopsy" as he sketched the head trauma supposedly caused by the "assassin's bullet" for posterity. You will note that although Humes said he destroyed - burned - autopsy notes to prevent any documents with blood on them from becoming objects of morbid curiosity, he most certainly did NOT destroy Boswell's sketch of the "head wound," which had blood stains all over it. Of course not! Boswell's drawing had to survive to provide support for the official cover story.

 

Don´t know what that is, but it can´t have been before the autopsy, his throat seems to be opened from top to bottom, or there is some serious swelling below his chin,  or is it a flap from opening it?