Alan Healy Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 .....The middle of the three appears to me, on an overhead plot, to be where he could be behind the wall and is closest to a location for comparison with 'Arnold'. With 'Arnold' slightly behind this figure, the sizes look ok to me. (red) In blue is a comparison with the suggested bm figure and Tony in Bills photo where Tony is behind the fence, again sizes seem to be ok. John, please show us what you used as an overhead view for your plotting. Also, I'm not entirely sure on the method you use to determine your distances from camera but I obviously do not doubt it is pretty accurate. *** I too had a little fling last year with BM being behind the wall because there is evidence in the NIX film that coincides with the timing of this flash we see(although the positioning is another matter). Anyway, what told me that BM was not behind the wall was the absolute assurance from one of those that first found him that, as soon as they went to the Plaza to check it out, they immeadiatly noticed that this figure was just too small to be behind the wall. He must of been further back. *** Maybe you could have a go at explaining, in your own words, how it is possible that we can see below the waistband of the Arnold figure in the blow-ups of Moorman5 without him being tight up against this three foot high wall or standing on a soap-box. If you want to explain what you see as the differences in height between the BDM in Betzner & this Arnold figure in Moorman, I'd also be interested to hear it. As far as I can determine from the small pieces of evidence that were captured on film, the pathway & the grassy area between it & the wall were pretty level at around 3' from the ground to the top of the wall(this measurment comes from a '78 survey if I remember correctly). Also a fairly recent eyeballing in DP from a respected researcher has Betzners camera very close to the same level as the top of the wall. I am also pretty certain that the "sloping off" of the soil at the very corner of the wall(see image) was not there in '63. Anyone who has footage of the SS reconstruction will see that the filming from behind the wall captures a brief glimse of the ground, it is flat. This was taken by Groden around 1980 I think. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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