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Did he mark the shell casings from the Tippet murder scene......or not?

thanks, T.

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Did he mark the shell casings from the Tippet murder scene......or not?

Hi Tom, I don't know if this helps but it would be interesting to know what purpose

is behind your question.

George

Mr. BALL. Domingo told you who was running across the lawn?

Mr. POE. A man, white man.

Mr. BALL. What was he doing?

Mr. POE. He was unloading his pistol as he run.

Mr. BALL. And what did he say?

Mr. POE. He said he picked the two hulls up.

Mr. BALL. Did he hand you the hulls?

Mr. POE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Did you put any markings on the hulls?

Mr. POE. I couldn't swear to it; no, sir.

Mr. BALL. What did you do with the hulls?

Mr. POE. I turned the hulls into the crime lab, which was at the scene.

Mr. BALL. Do you know the name of the man with the crime lab or from the crime lab?

Mr. POE. I couldn't swear to it. I believe Pete Barnes, but I wouldn't swear to it.

Mr. BALL. How many cartridges, or empty cartridges or shells were given to you?

Mr. POE. There were two in an empty Winston cigarette package.

Mr. BALL. Did you save the Winston cigarette package?

Mr. POE. I turned it in with the two cartridges.

Mr. BALL. To the crime lab?

Mr. POE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Now, I have here a package which has been marked "Q"--FBI lab. Q-74 to Q-77. Would you look those over and see if there is any identification on there by you to indicate that those were the hulls given to you by Benavides?

Mr. POE. I want to say these two are mine, but I couldn't swear to it.

Mr. BALL. Did you make a mark?

Mr. POE. I can't swear to it; no, sir.

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Just running down one of the "myths", for lack of a better word....

I thought I had read that he did.

thanks for the reply, it helps...

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Did he mark the shell casings from the Tippet murder scene......or not?

Hi Tom, I don't know if this helps but it would be interesting to know what purpose

is behind your question.

George

Mr. BALL. Domingo told you who was running across the lawn?

Mr. POE. A man, white man.

Mr. BALL. What was he doing?

Mr. POE. He was unloading his pistol as he run.

Mr. BALL. And what did he say?

Mr. POE. He said he picked the two hulls up.

Mr. BALL. Did he hand you the hulls?

Mr. POE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Did you put any markings on the hulls?

Mr. POE. I couldn't swear to it; no, sir.

Mr. BALL. What did you do with the hulls?

Mr. POE. I turned the hulls into the crime lab, which was at the scene.

Mr. BALL. Do you know the name of the man with the crime lab or from the crime lab?

Mr. POE. I couldn't swear to it. I believe Pete Barnes, but I wouldn't swear to it.

Mr. BALL. How many cartridges, or empty cartridges or shells were given to you?

Mr. POE. There were two in an empty Winston cigarette package.

Mr. BALL. Did you save the Winston cigarette package?

Mr. POE. I turned it in with the two cartridges.

Mr. BALL. To the crime lab?

Mr. POE. Yes, sir.

Mr. BALL. Now, I have here a package which has been marked "Q"--FBI lab. Q-74 to Q-77. Would you look those over and see if there is any identification on there by you to indicate that those were the hulls given to you by Benavides?

Mr. POE. I want to say these two are mine, but I couldn't swear to it.

Mr. BALL. Did you make a mark?

Mr. POE. I can't swear to it; no, sir.

Hi George:

Poe's testimony is at best ambiguous. If we continue on Ball and Poe

play musical chairs on the issue of the marks on the hulls:

BALL: But there was a mark on two of these?

POE: There is a mark. I believe I put on them, but I couldn't swear to it.

I couldn't make them out anymore.

BALL: Now, the ones you said you made a mark on are you think it is these two

Q-77 and Q-75?

POE: Yes, sir, those two there.

BALL: Both marked Western Special? They both are marked Western Special.

How long did you stay there?

(WCH VII P. 69)

Bill C

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  • 4 years later...

Despite claiming to the WC that he could not swear to it that he marked the shells, Poe told author Henry Hurt that he was "absolutely certain" he had (Reasonable Doubt, p 153). No such markings were on the casings in evidence.

The casings chain of possession for this, and other reasons, was broken beyond all semantic efforts at rehab.

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