Tim Gratz Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 A post that starts by calling pro-life adherents "morons" hardly merits a reply. It is not a question of religion. John, you have made the point that atheists can have moral principles and I believe that you do. I believe that the moral principles do come from God however. Be that as it may, any moral person recognizes that greatest crime a person can commit is the taking of another human life. Dr. Bernard Nathanson was an atheist when he came to the realization, through his medical training, that the abortions that he was performing were indeed the taking of human life and he could no longer countenance it. Nic talks about pro-life demonstrators screaming at women entering abortion clinics. I have never seen this happen, and indeed it would be counter-productive to their cause. More often, I believe, pro-death advocates reap scorn and abuse on pro-life demonstrators. Dr. Nathanson stated he decided to become a Cathloic (I am not a Catholic myself, by the way) when he saw the kindness the pro-life people demonstrated to those who cursed them. My point is that the societal sanctions against murder do not violation the provision of the separation of church and state, any more than sanctions against robbery or other crimes that are also condemned in the Bible and in the Koran. The increases in medical knowledge in the last century clearly demonstrate that life begins at conception. The issue that must be addressed is at what point life should be protected by the state. Clearly the fetus in the mother is a separate and distinct human being being sheltered and nurtured by the mother's body. It is not true that pro-life advocates do not care for the plight of the woman with an unwanted pregnancy. Indeed, most larger cities have organizations to assist such women that are organized and funded by pro-life proponents. It is often true that women who undergo abortions suffer deep psychological effects as they later realize that they have indeed taken an innocent human life. These possible consequences are never discussed by the doctors who profit from performing abortions. But the pro-life movement also assists women in recovering from the scars of abortion by demonstrating that they can achieve forgiveness. Certainly there can be difficult questions that arise, such as Nic's point about the rape victim. But very few abortions result from rape and most are simply for convenience. Would Nic support a prohibition on abortion except in cases of rape or where there was a serious issue of the health of the mother? Since the science is now clear that a separate human life begins at conception, it seems difficult, I think, to countenance the taking of that life except under very unusual circumstances such as rape or the health of the mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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