Dr. Jose Rivera

William Kelly · July 20, 2008

According to Col. Jose Rivera's official military records, he worked at Fort Detrick, Md., under Dr. Lamanna after WWII, and then reunited with Lamanna at the U.S. Naval Biological Laboratory, affiliated with the University of California at Berkeley, but actually situated in Oakland, California, from 1959 - 1961.

The only thing I could find about this U.S. Naval Biological Laborator is a reference to this guy being the head of security there, also in the late 50s.

A native of San Francisco, California, Captain Dewey entered active duty upon acceptance of a commission as Ensign from the NROTC Unit at Stamford University, on 6 September 1956.Following an initial tour as Security Officer, U.S. Naval Biological Laboratory, Oakland, California, he embarked upon a series of sea duty assignments commencing when he reported to USS Brown (DD546), in November 1957. Succeeding tours, in order, included assignments oin USS Saint Paul (CA73), Beach Jumper Unit ONE, USS Chicago(CG11) and USS Bayfield(APA33). In April 1967, then LT. CMDR. Dewey commenced a dual assignment with the Naval Advisory Group, Republic of Vietnam, and the US Navy River Patrol Force in the Mekong Delta region of Southeast Asia. During this tour he saw combat action on numerous occasions including during the Viet Cong Tet Offensive of 1968.Then came a tour ashore with the NATO staff of Commander Naval Striking and Support Forces, Southern Europe. Following promotion, Commander Dewey returned to sea as Executive Officer, USS Concord(AFS5) and from Jan.1974 to Jan.1976, he served as Commanding Officer, USS Denebola(AF56). A series of staff assignments started when he reported for duty as Operations Officer, Commander Service Group ONE in Feb.1976. It was while serving as Training Officer and Chief Staff Officer at Fleet Training Group, San Diego, that he was promoted to the rank of Captain on 1 April 1978. Next came duty as Chief Inspector and Chief Staff Officer, Military Sealift Command, Pacific, followed by a tour on the staff of Commander Naval Forces Marianas. Captain Dewey's final tour of duty was as Commanding Officer, Naval and Marine Corps Reserve Readiness Center, Sacramento, California from which he transferred to the retired list effective 1 July 1987. Captain Dewey's decorations include the Bronze Star Medal with Combat Action Ribbon plus various unit citations and service medals. He is qualified for both the Navy Expert Rifleman and Navy Expert Pistol Shot Medals. Captain Dewey is married to the former Diane M. Morgan of La Mesa, California. Their marriage has been blessed with four children and seven grandchildren. In the course of their naval career they have lived in the areas of San Diego, Long Beach and San Francisco, California: Norfolk, Virginia: Yokosuka, Japan: Naples, Italy: and the Territory of Guam, Mariana Islands. The Dewey's reside in retirement near Colfax, California where they enjoy the many opportunities for hunting, fishing and skiing offered by that region of the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

Commander Doolittle January - April 1976

Greg Parker · July 20, 2008

According to Col. Jose Rivera's official military records, he worked at Fort Detrick, Md., under Dr. Lamanna after WWII, and then reunited with Lamanna at the U.S. Naval Biological Laboratory, affiliated with the University of California at Berkeley, but actually situated in Oakland, California, from 1959 - 1961.

here are some things:

http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD...oc=GetTRDoc.pdf

In the late '60, Rivera was involved with the lab and other agencies in Project Tektite - research into lengthy stays under water conducted in Virgin Isles.

http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD...oc=GetTRDoc.pdf

Keighley OIC Naval Biological Laboratory, Oakland, 1960

http://www.purplehearts.net/keighley/keighley.htm

The lab was listed in a 1970 AFSC paper called Weapons for Counterinsurgency as performing "epidemiological research relevant to biological warfare applications"

Bill, this is just a small sample... there is plenty out there on it.

William Kelly · July 20, 2008

Gee Greg, Thanks a lot. How'd I miss them. - I especially like the published reports and articles from the Naval Biological Research center. I see a lot of Lamanna, but no Rivera. I guess Rivera worked under Lamanna and didn't write much. - BK

142. The most poisonous poison. Carl Lamanna Science, 1959, 130:763-772

153. Use of autoclavable plastic material for do-it-yourself solutions to laboratory problems of safety. Ca," Lamanna J. Lab. Clin. Med., 1960, 55:319-321

159. Influence of ingested foods on the oral toxicity in mice of crystalline botulinal type A tcxi'i.Carl Lamanna and Charles E. Meyers, J. Bacteriol., 1960, 79:.'46-410

160. Comparative study of the agglutinogens of the endospores of Bacillus anthracis and Bacillus c-reus. Carl Lamarna and Daniel Eisler

161. Toxicity of bacter,al exotoxins by the oral route. Carl Lamanna Science, 1966, 1311.100-1101

178. Oral poisoning by bacterial exotoxins exemplified in botulism. Carl Lamanna Ann, N.Y.Acad. Sci , 1960, 88:1109-1114

195. Pntigenic relationship of the endospores of Bacillus cereu 3 like insect pathogens to Bacillus cereus and Bacillus anthracis. Carl Lamanna and Linda Jones, J. Bacterioi,, 1961, 81.622-625

203. Immunological aspects of airborne infection: Some general considerations of response to inhalation of toxins. Carl Lamanna Bacteriol. Rev., 1961, 25:323-33

232. Lethality for mice of vegetative and spore forms of Bacillus cereus and Bacillus cereus-like insect pathogens injected intraperitoneally and subcutaneously. Carl Lamanna and Linda Jones, J. Ba:teriol., 1963, 85:532-535

J. Bacteriol., j936(, 79:4j)-4.,41

William Kelly · July 21, 2008

Jim,
If you look at the USAMRIID Blue Book, Medical Management of Biological Casualities Handook - It says:

http://usamriid.detrick.army.mil/education...h%20Edition.pdf

In 1943, the U.S. began its own research and development program in the use of biological agents for offensive purposes. Similar programs existed in Canada, the United Kingdom (UK), and probably several other countries. This work was started, interestingly enough, in response to a perceived German BW threat as opposed to a Japanese one. The U.S. research program was headquartered at Camp Detrick (now Fort Detrick), which was a small National Guard airfield before that time, and produced agents and conducted field testing at other sites until 1969, when President Nixon stopped all offensive biological and toxin weapon research and production by executive order.

Sure, Bill. I was bending over backwards to be fair to the CBW scientists by putting up the "defensive use" rationale.

In reality of course, there's increasing evidence that the allies used germ warfare offensively in the Korean War, and that some scientists - such as Dr Frank Olson - objected at the cost of their lives.

Looking at their "cleansed" military service records, and further details of their research, both Lamanna and Rivero are clearly military CBW scientists. However, I'm far more interested in any suggestions of potential MK-ULTRA research. As usual, the Artichoke/Bluebird/MK-ULTRA footsteps in the snow are much harder to pin down and identify than CBW tracks.

Jan, Have you seen this?:

http://www.WantToKnow.info/bluebird10pg

A 10-Page Summary

In this summary of Bluebird, Dr. Ross describes unethical experiments conducted by psychiatrists to create amnesia, new identities, hypnotic access codes, and new memories in the minds of experimental subjects. His research is based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act. Dr. Ross is a past president of the International Society for the Study of Dissociation. Join in powerfully creating a better world for all by spreading the word.

Historical Background

The Manchurian Candidate is compelling evidence for the reality of therapist-created multiple personality disorder. The condition has been created deliberately by mind control doctors. Experiments to create Manchurian Candidate “super spies” must be understood in their social and historical context, which is one of pervasive, systematic mind control experimentation, not by a few isolated renegade doctors, but by the leaders of psychiatry and the major medical schools. Because this book is likely to provoke extreme reactions, I have taken great care to present only facts which are fully documented and based on objective, public domain information. P. E

The basic premise of the book The Manchurian Candidate [1] is that a group of American POWs in the Korean War is brainwashed while crossing through Manchuria to freedom. They arrive back in the US amnesic for the period of brainwashing, and one of them has been programmed to be an assassin. His target is a candidate for president of the US. His Asian handlers control him with a hypnotically implanted trigger, a particular playing card. P. 23

Multiple personality disorder is now classified by the American Psychiatric Association [2] as dissociative identity disorder. According to my definition, the Manchurian Candidate is an experimentally created dissociative identity disorder that meets the following four criteria:

<LI style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Created deliberately <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; TEXT-ALIGN: justify">A new identity is implanted <LI style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Amnesia barriers are created
Used in simulated or actual operations

That the CIA created Manchurian Candidates is a fact, and easy to understand and justify from a national security perspective. I am not criticizing the CIA or the military in this book because I am not an expert on intelligence matters. I am a psychiatrist specializing in dissociative disorders. P. G

BLUEBIRD blows the whistle on extensive political abuse of psychiatry in North America in the second half of the 20^th century. Many thousands of prisoners and mental patients were subjected to unethical mind control experiments by leading psychiatrists and medical schools. Organized academic psychiatry has never acknowledged this history. The network of mind control doctors involved in BLUEBIRD has done a great deal of harm to the field of psychiatry and to psychiatric patients. My goal is to break the ugly silence. P. K

The participation of psychiatrists and medical schools in mind control research was not a matter of a few scattered doctors pursuing questionable lines of investigation. Rather, the mind control experimentation was systematic, organized, and involved many leading psychiatrists and medical schools. The mind control experiments were interwoven with radiation experiments, and research on chemical and biological weapons. They were funded by the CIA, Army, Navy, Air Force, and by other agencies including the Public Health Service and the Scottish Rite Foundation. The psychiatrists, psychologists, neurosurgeons, and other contractors conducting the work were imbedded in a broad network of doctors, and much of the research was published in medical journals. The climate was permissive, supportive, and approving of mind control experimentation. P. F, 1

The work of the mind control doctors did not occur in a vacuum. The importation of Nazi doctors to the US through secret programs like PAPERCLIP is part of the context. After the end of World War II, German scientists and technical experts were being held in a variety of detainment camps. The British, French, Americans, and Russians became embroiled in highly competitive recruiting efforts to secure the services of these German specialists. The prospect of losing the industrial and scientific services of these German experts lead to the creation of Project PAPERCLIP. [3][4][5] Over 1,000 German scientists were secretly brought into the US without State Department approval. The most famous individual brought over in this manner was Werner von Braun, the rocket scientist. Von Braun was the head of the German V2 rocket program. The NASA rockets that took Neil Armstrong to the moon were built by von Braun and his colleagues. Medical doctors also came over under PAPERCLIP. P. 3, 4

Likewise, the Tuskeegee Syphilis Study helps us understand how mind control experimentation was not only tolerated by medical professionals, but published in peer-reviewed literature. [6][7] The Study, started in Alabama in 1932, was run by the Public Health Service. 399 illiterate, poor rural black men with syphilis were recruited as subjects, along with 201 controls without syphilis. The purpose of the Study was to make sure the 399 men never got treatment. The subjects and their families weren’t told they had syphilis and didn’t know it was treatable. They were told that they had bad blood. P. 1, 9, 10

The cure for syphilis, penicillin, was introduced in the early 1940’s. It was withheld from the Tuskeegee men for 30 years. The published results of the Study showed the men with untreated syphilis were sicker and died younger than controls. [8] How many women were infected with syphilis because these men were deliberately not treated? How many children were born with syphilis because of the Study? The Tuskeegee Syphilis Study was eventually shut down in 1972 because of the efforts of an investigative journalist. There is no evidence to suggest that the government or the medical progression had any intention of closing the study as of 1972. People and organizations that knew about the Study included the Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, and the Center for Disease Control. Throughout its 40-year course, the Tuskeegee Study was praised and received various honors. P. 9-13

The Tuskeegee Study establishes that a large network of doctors and organization were willing to participate in, fund, and condone grossly unethical medical experimentation into the 1970’s. The Study proves that considerable external pressure is often required before the medical profession takes the necessary action to terminate such experimentation. P. 14

Unethical radiation experiments were conducted on about 600 subjects [9][10][11] in the US beginning in the 1940’s and running into the 1970’s. Many people were injected with plutonium and exposed to other forms of radiation without their informed consent. 18 patients were injected with plutonium in an experiment run by the MANHATTAN PROJECT. Prisoners in Washington and Oregon state prisons were paid to have their testicles irradiated. They got $5 a month for the irradiation. During the experiment, which ran from 1963 to 1971, the subjects’ testicles were exposed to 600 roentgen of radiation, which is 100 times the maximum recommended dose. P. 15-17

Clouds of radioactive material were released into the atmosphere and tracked as they moved downwind, often through populated areas. In one experiment code-named GREEN RUN, radioactive iodine-131 released from the Hanford Nuclear Facility drifted over Spokane. The cloud contained hundreds of times as much radiation as was released accidentally at Three Mile Island in 1979. P. 17

As was true of mind control and biological weapon research, radiation research experiments were conducted on children and unwitting civilians. In 1961, researchers at Harvard Medical School, Massachusetts General Hospital, and Boston University School of Medicine gave radioactive iodine to seventy retarded children at Wrentham State School. At Fernald School, MIT gave radioactive substances to children by putting it in their food. No risks of radioactivity were mentioned in the consent form signed by the parents. The consent form stated that the purpose of the experiments was “helping to improve the nutrition of our children.” Dr. Saul Krugman of New York University and his staff deliberately injected severely mentally retarded children at Willowbrook State School with hepatitis virus in the 1950’s and 1960’s, [12] funded by the Army Medical Research and Development Command. To date there has been no compensation for victims of unethical biological experiments. P. 15, 18, 19

Army doctors were actively involved in LSD testing at least until the late 1970’s. Subjects of LSD experiments included children as young as five years old, and brain electrodes were implanted in children as young as 11 years of age. Four of the CIA’s MKULTRA Subprojects were on children. The mind control doctors included Presidents of the American Psychiatric Association and psychiatrists who received full-page obituaries in the American Journal of Psychiatry. Responsibility for the unethical experimentation lies first with the individual doctors, but also collectively with the medical profession and with academia as a whole. P. 21

Cold War Mind Control Experimentation

BLUEBIRD was approved by the CIA director on April 20, 1950. In August 1951, the Project was renamed ARTICHOKE. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE included a great deal of work on the creation of amnesia, hypnotic couriers, and the Manchurian Candidate. [13][14] ARTICHOKE documents prove that hypnotic couriers functioned effectively in real-life simulations conducted by the CIA in the early 1950’s. The degree to which such individuals were used in actual operations is still classified. P. 23

The BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE documents available through the Freedom of Information Act, like all such documents, are heavily redacted. A great deal of text has been whited out, and other documents must still be entirely classified. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE were administered in a compartmented fashion. The details of the programs were kept secret even form other personnel within the CIA. When asked why LSD research done under ARTICHOKE was hidden from the CIA Committee in charge of ARTICHOKE, Sydney Gottlieb, Chief, Medical Staff, Technical Services Division, CIA, responded, “I imagine the only reason would have been concern for broadening awareness of its existence.” P. 25, 27

An article in the February 18, 1979 Wilmington Sunday News Journal states: “The ARTICHOKE interrogation was conducted in a safe house in the remote countryside staffed by security-cleared personnel. It was conducted under medical cover of a routine physical and psychological assessment. The Subject was transported to the safe house in a ‘covert car.’ At the safe house he was given a conventional interrogation and then some whiskey. This was followed by two grams of Phenobarbital, which put him to sleep. The next day a lie detector test was given, and the Subject was given intravenous chemicals. Following the chemically-assisted interrogation, the ARTICHOKE techniques were applied in three stages. A false memory was introduced into the Subject’s mind without his conscious control of the process. The procedure was repeated again with interrogation added.” P. 28

ARTICHOKE operations involved detailed, systematic creation of specific amnesia barriers, new identities and hypnotically implanted codes and triggers. An ARTICHOKE document dated 7 January 1953 [15] describes the experimental creation of multiple personality in two 19-year old girls by the CIA. “H” is used as shorthand for hypnotic, hypnotized, or hypnotism: “These subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H controlled state via the telephone, via some very subtle signal that cannot be detected by other persons in the room, and without the other individuals being able to note the change. It has been clearly shown that physically, individuals can be induced into H by telephone, by receiving written matter, or by the use of code, signal, or words, and that control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes, and that they can be conditioned to a point where they believe a change in identity on their part even on the polygraph.” P. 32

Another ARTICHOKE document describes “Analogous Case #3.” “A CIA Security Office employee was hypnotized and given a false identity. She defended it hotly, denying her true name and rationalizing with conviction the possession of identity cards made out to her real self. Later, having had the false identity erased by suggestion, she was asked if she had ever heard of the name she had been defending as her own five minutes before. She thought, shook her head, and said, ‘That’s a pseudo if I ever heard one.’ Apparently she had true amnesia for the entire episode.” P. 32, 33

In an experiment described in a document entitled “SI and H experimentation [16] (25 September 1951)”, two female subjects took part in an exercise involving the planting of a bomb. Both subjects performed perfectly and were fully amnesic for the exercise: “[Whited out] was instructed that upon awakening, she would proceed to [whited out] room where she would wait at the desk for a telephone call. Upon receiving the call, a person known as “Jim” would engage her in normal conversation. During the course of the conversation, this individual would mention a code word. When she heard this code word, she would pass into a SI trance state, but would not close her eyes and remain perfectly normal and continue the telephone conversation. P. 37

She was told that upon conclusion of the telephone conversation, she would then carry out instructions: [Whited out] was shown an electric timing device. She was informed that this device was a bomb, and then instructed how to set the device. After [whited out] learned how to set and attach the device, she was told to take the timing device which was in a briefcase, and proceed to the ladies room. In the ladies room, she would be met by a girl whom she had never seen who would identify herself by the code word “New York.” [whited out] was then to show this individual how to attach and set the timing device and further instructions would be given that the timing device was to be carried in the briefcase to [whited out] room, placed in the nearest empty electric-light plug and concealed in the bottom, left-hand drawer of [whited out] desk, with the device set for 82 seconds and turned on.” P. 37, 38

The BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE materials establish conclusively that full Manchurian Candidates were created and tested successfully by physicians with TOP SECRET clearance from the CIA. P. 61

As well as being potential couriers and infiltration agents, the subjects could function in effect as hypnotically controlled cameras. They could enter a room or building, memorize materials quickly, leave the building, and then be amnesic for the entire episode. The memorized material could then be retrieved by a handler using a previously implanted code or signal, without the amnesia being disturbed. Hypnosis was not the mind control doctors’ only method for creation of controlled amnesia, however. Drugs, magnetic fields, sound waves, sleep deprivation, solitary confinement, and many other methods were studied under BLUEBIRD and ARTHICHOKE. P. 38

Another problem addressed repeatedly in the documents is called “The Problem of Disposal of Subjects.” Several personnel recommended the use of lobotomies for this purpose, but according to the documents this was rejected as too unethical and too high a negative publicity risk for the CIA. P. 41

The usage of electric shock to the brain for the creation of amnesia with hypnosis was discussed by an ARTICHOKE document dated 3 December 1951: “[Whited out] is reported to be an authority on electric shock. He is a psychiatrist of considerable note. [Whited out] explained that electric shock might be of considerable interest to the ‘Artichoke’ type of work. He stated that the standard electric-shock machine (Reiter) could be used. He stated that using this machine with convulsive treatment, he could guarantee amnesia for certain periods of time, and particularly he could guarantee amnesia for any knowledge of use of the convulsive shock. He stated that the lower setting of the machine produced a different type of shock. When this lower current type of shock was applied without convulsion, it had the effect of making a man talk. He said that this type of shock produced in the individual excruciating pain. He stated that there would be no question that the individual would be quite willing to give information if threatened with the use of this machine. It was [whited out] opinion that an individual could gradually be reduced through the use of electro-shock treatment to the vegetable level.” P. 44

Project MKULTRA

ARTICHOKE and BLUEBIRD were administratively rolled over into MKULTRA, which was created by the CIA on April 3, 1953. MKULTRA was in turn rolled over into MKSEARCH on June 7, 1964. MKSEARCH then ran until June 1972, at which time extensive shredding of MKULTRA and MKSEARCH files was ordered by the Director of the CIA, Richard Helms. The surviving MKULTRA documents can be obtained from the CIA under the Freedom of Information Act. There was a round of declassification of mind control documents in the 1970’s which were the foundation of books published in the 1970’s and 1980’s. [17][18][19][20][21][22][23] P. 7

A document entitled, “Hypnotic Experimentation and Research, 10 February 1954” [24] describes a simulation experiment of relevance to the creation of Manchurian Candidate assassins: “Miss [whited out] was then instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken miss [whited out] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep), and failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [whited out]. She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to “kill” [whited out] for failing to awaken. Miss [whited out] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded) gun at [whited out] and then proceeding to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the entire sequence. Miss [whited out] was again handed the gun, which she refused (in an awakened state) to pick up or accept form the operator. She expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened.” P. 36, 37

MKULTRA was divided into 149 Subprojects. One group of Subprojects involved the development and testing of mind control drugs. The goal of these Subprojects was to identify compounds which would assist in interrogation and in the creation of amnesia. The CIA sponsored LSD research through MKULTRA. It also financed LSD conferences and books. An undated document entitled “D-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide (LDS-25),” states “Some of the more outstanding effects are the mental confusion, helplessness, and extreme anxiety which are produced by minute doses of this substance. Based upon these reactions, its potential use in offensive psychological warfare and in interrogation is considerable, and it may become one of the most important of the psychochemical agents.” P. 47, 51, 54, 73

Unethical practice by physicians and the direct involvement of pharmaceutical companies are part of the history of hallucinogens. Under TOP SECRET clearance, Eli Lilly Company was given a $400,000 grant in 1953 to manufacture and supply LSD to the CIA. Army LSD research was ongoing in 1977 when LSD was a controlled substance. At least 1,500 soldiers were given LSD without informed consent as part of Army mind control experiments. These facts have never been subject to ethical review or any policy or position statement by any medical organization. P. 52, 53, 68, 73

Frank Olson was a Fort Detrick biological warfare expert who committed suicide in 1953 after being given LSD hidden in liqueur by Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, Director of MKULTRA. Olson’s family determined that he had committed suicide subsequent to a bad LSD trip only after reading Nelson Rockefeller’s 1975 report on the CIA, published 22 years after Olsen’s death. They were given $750,000 in compensation by Congress. P. 49

Biological warfare (BW) and chemical warfare (CW) research involved testing in many locations. CW research involved releasing bacteria and viruses into general population areas. The bacterium Serratia marascens was released in New York (June 1966), San Francisco (September 1950), and Pennsylvania (January 1955). A paper in the Archives of Internal Medicine describes eleven Serratia marascens infections observed in one San Francisco hospital between September 1950 and February 1951. The paper was published because Serratia marascens infections are very rare. P. 68, 69

MKULTRA Subproject 35 involved funding the construction of the Gorman Annex at Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, DC. The total budget for the Annex of $1.25 million was to provide a hospital safe house for mind control research. One sixth of the space was set aside for the CIA, which placed three biochemists there under cover. P. 55

Another group of Subprojects consists of experiments and research on non-chemical mind control. This group of Subprojects is about one quarter of the total MKULTRA Subprojects. It involves most of the contractors with unwitting status. Unwitting contractors are ones who do not realize that the research money is from the CIA because it has been funneled through a cutout or front organization. By and large, the psychologists and sociologists were unwitting contractors, while the physicians, chemists, and the biologists had TOP SECRET clearance and were aware that they were working for the CIA. In CIA terminology, these people were witting. P. 54

Like the Tuskeegee Syphilis Study and the radiation research, MKULTRA involved direct experimentation on children without informed consent being given by their parents or guardians. In the case of the Tuskeegee Study, children were harmed by preventable congenital syphilis. In the radiation experiments, they were harmed through direct expose after birth or in utero exposure during experiments on their mothers. [25] Four of the MKULTRA Subprojects involved research on children. The deliberate creation of multiple personality in children is an explicitly stated plan in the MKULTRA Subproject Proposal submitted for funding on May 30, 1961. P. 56, 61

The Mind Control Doctors – Dr. Ewen Cameron

Throughout the 20^th century, academic psychiatry provided no public commentary, ethical guidance, or moral oversight of any kind concerning mind control experimentation, despite the fact that the leading psychiatrists and medical schools were well funded by the CIA and military for mind control research. Mental patients, cancer patients, prisoners, and unwitting citizens were experimented on by mind control doctors at Yale, Harvard, McGill, Stanford, UCLA, and other major universities. These human guinea pigs were never told that they were subjects in military and CIA mind control experiments, and they never gave informed consent. They received no systematic follow-up to document the harm done to them. The welfare of the “human subjects” was not a relevant variable in the academic equation.” The mind control doctors saw their patients as biological machines, a view which made them sub-human, and therefore easier to abuse in mind control experiments. P. 91, 126

The MKULTRA contractor about whom the most has been written is Dr. Ewen Cameron. [26][27][28][29][30][31][32] Dr. Cameron began conducting unethical and inhumane brainwashing experiments at Brandon mental Hospital in the 1930’s. Schizophrenic patients were forced to lie naked in red light for eight hours a day for periods as long as eight months. Another experiment involved overheating patients in an electric cage until their body temperatures reached 102 degrees. Dr. Cameron massively over-utilized coma therapy by putting patients in coma for 2 to 5 hours per day for up to 50 days in a row. At various times, Dr. Cameron was President of the Quebec, Canadian, American, and World Psychiatric Associations. He was one of four co-founders of the World Psychiatric Association. P. 125-129

In a paper published in the American Journal of Psychiatry entitled “Psychic Driving,” Dr. Cameron [33] describes his brainwashing techniques. Psychic driving was carried out in two stages. In the first stage, patients were depatterned, which meant reduced to a vegetable state through a combination of massive amounts of electroconvulsive shock, drug-induced sleep and sensory isolation. When fully depatterned, patients were incontinent of urine and feces, unable to feed themselves, and unable to state their name, location, or the date. In the second stage, psychic driving was introduced. This consisted of hundreds of hours of tape loops being played to the patient through earphones, special helmets, or speakers in the sensory isolation room. Dr. Cameron received a grant from Canada’s Department of Health and Welfare for $57,750 for the years 1961 to 1964 for “A Study of Factors Which Promote or Retard Personality Change in Individuals Exposed to Prolonged Repetition of Verbal Signals.” P. 129, 131

Linda MacDonald was a victim of Dr. Ewen Cameron’s unethical, destructive mind control experiments between May 1 and September 12, 1963. Dr. Cameron used a “treatment” which involved intensive application of three brainwashing techniques; drug disinhibition, prolonged sleep treatment, and prolonged psychological isolation. These were combined with ECT [Electro Convulsive Therapy] treatments. The amount of electricity introduced into Linda’s brain exceeded by 76.5 times the maximum amount recommended in the ECT Guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association. Dr. Cameron proved that doctors skilled in the right procedures can erase a subject’s memory. His depattering technique resulted in permanent and complete amnesia. To this day, Linda MacDonald is unable to remember anything from her birth to 1963. As recorded by nurses in her chart, Linda was reduced to a vegetable state by depatterning. She was completely disoriented. She didn’t know her name, age or where she was. She didn’t recognize her children. She couldn’t read, drive, cook, or use a toilet. Not only did she not know her husband, she didn’t even know what a husband was. P. 181-183

There is a connection to politics, power, and weapons in Linda MacDonald’s life. Her husband worked for the Canadian Armament Research Development Establishment. His immediate boss was a man who sold arms to Saddam Hussein. His boss was also tied into the Iran-Contra affair, and was murdered in Europe a few years ago. P. 186

Life changed for Linda when the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation program, The Fifth Estate, aired a segment on Dr. Cameron on January 17, 1984. A Vancouver newspaper ran a full-page story on Robert Loggie, a Vancouver man who had been experimented on by Dr. Cameron. Loggie was a plaintiff in the class action suit against the CIA for Dr. Cameron’s MKULTRA experiments, which was settled out of court for $750,000, divided among the eight plaintiffs. Linda’s mother phoned her about the program. Linda shook a lot in reaction to the news and didn’t know what to do. Through a reporter she got in touch with a Washington lawyer representing the eight Canadian plaintiffs. He advised Linda that she could not be a party to the class action suit against the CIA because she was ‘treated’ by Dr. Cameron after his CIA funding had stopped. The Canadian government had picked up the funding by 1963. Eventually she got $100,000 plus legal fees from the Canadian government. P. 187, 188

The fact that Dr. Cameron’s unethical, inhumane, and grossly damaging experiments were published in the psychiatric literature [34][35][36] is a condemnation of the editorial standards of the journals, not a vindication of Dr. Cameron. P. 132

Dr. G. H. Estabrooks

G.H. Estabrooks is the only mind control doctor who has publicly acknowledged the building of Manchurian Candidates. In his book Spiritism, [37] Dr. Estabrooks describes experiments done to create multiple personality by military psychiatrist Dr. P.L. Harriman. [38][39][40] In his book Hypnotism, [41] Dr. Estabrooks states that the creation of experimental multiple personality for operational use in military subjects, whom he refers to as super spies, is ethical because of the demands of war. He comments in a chapter entitled “Hypnotism in Warfare” that: “the hand of the military must not be tied by any silly prejudices in the minds of the general public. War is the end of all law. In the last analysis any device is justifiable which enables us to protect ourselves from defeat.” P. 159, 162

In a May 13, 1968 article in the Providence Evening Bulletin, [42] Estabrooks is described as a former consultant for the FBI and CIA, and is quoted as saying that, “the key to creating an effective spy or assassin rests in splitting a man’s personality, or creating multipersonality, with the aid of hypnotism. This is not science fiction. This has and is being done. I have done it.” P. 162

Dr. Estabrooks’ proposal to the CIA dated June 22, 1954 states: “In deep hypnosis the subject, military or civilian, can be given a message to be delivered to say Colonel X in Berlin. The message will be perfectly safe and delivered to the proper person because the subject will have no memory whatsoever in the waking state as to the message. It can be arranged that the subject will have no knowledge of ever having been hypnotized. It can be arranged that no one beside Colonel X in Berlin can hypnotize the subject and recover the message….I will take a number of men and will establish in them through the use of hypnotism the condition of split personality. Consciously they will be ardent Communists, fanatical adherents to the party line. Unconsciously they will be loyal Americans determined to thwart the Communists at every turn. These men will have no knowledge of ever having been hypnotized, and can only be hypnotized by such persons as the original operator may choose. Consciously they will associate with the Communists and learn all their plans. Once every month they, as loyal Americans, will tell what they know. This sounds unbelievable, but I assure you, it will work.” P. 163, 165

In a 1971 article in Science Digest, Dr. Estabrooks [43] claimed to have created hypnotic couriers and counterintelligence agents for operational use: “The ‘hypnotic courier’ provides a unique solution. I was involved in preparing army subjects for this work during World War II. One successful case involved an Army Captain. He was an excellent subject but did not realize it. I removed from him, by post hypnotic suggestion, all recollection of ever having been hypnotized. I put him under deep hypnosis, and gave him – orally – a vital message to be delivered directly on his arrival in Japan to a certain colonel – let’s say his name was Brown – of military intelligence. Outside of myself, Colonel Brown was the only person who could hypnotize Captain Smith. This is ‘locking.’ I performed it by saying to the captain, ‘We will use the phrase ‘the moon is clear. Whenever you hear this phrase from Brown or myself you will pass instantly into deep hypnosis.’ When Captain Smith re-awakened, he had no conscious memory of what happened in trance. The system is virtually foolproof.” P. 167, 168

By the 1920’s not only had [clinical hypnotists] learned to apply posthypnotic suggestion, but also had learned to split certain complex individuals into multiple personalities like Jeckyl-Hydes. During World War II, I worked this technique with a vulnerable Marine lieutenant I’ll call Jones. I split his personality into Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a “normal” working Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist cells, and was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge by the Corps and became a card-carrying party member. Jones B was the deeper personality, knew all the thoughts of Jones A, was a loyal American and was “imprinted” to say nothing during conscious phases. All I had to do was hypnotize the whole man, get in touch with Jones B, the loyal American, and I had a pipeline straight into the Communist camp. It worked beautifully for months.” P. 169

Dr. Estabrooks did experiments on children. He corresponded with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover about using hypnosis to interrogate juvenile delinquents. His experimentation on children raises the possibility that investigators have attempted to create Manchurian Candidates in children. Such a possibility might seem far-fetched until one considers the LSD, biological and radiation experiments conducted on children, the fact that four MKULTRA Subprojects were on children, and that hypnotic subjects described in the CIA documents include girls 19 years of age. P. 176, 177

Other Mind Control Doctors

Dr. Harold Wolff, a Professor of Medicine at Cornell, was a director of the CIA cutout [front organization], The Human Ecology Foundation, and the investigator of MKULTRA Subproject 61. Dr. Wolff’s accomplishments include being President of the American Neurological Association and editor of Archives of Neurology. [44] P. 85

Dr. Martin Orne [45][46] is one of the leading experts on hypnosis of the 20^th century. For about 30 years, he was the editor of The International Journal of Clinical and Experimental Hypnosis. He is one of two psychiatrists professionally active into the late 1990’s who is a documented CIA mind control contractor, along with Dr. Louis Jolyon West. [47] Dr. West, who killed an elephant with LSD [48] at Oklahoma City Zoo, had TOP SECRET clearance with the CIA and the military. P. 81, 121, 124

Dr. William Sweet [49] participated in both brain electrode implant experiments and the injection of uranium into medical patients at Harvard University. The 925-page Final Report. Advisory Committee on Human radiation Experiments tells the story of the radiation experiments, and their linkage to mind control. [50] P. 1

Brain Implants

A CIA memorandum for MKULTRA Subproject 142 describes the control of animals through stimulation of brain electrodes. The overall goal was clear; to control the mind and behavior, and to create dissociation through a combination of drugs, sensory isolation, hypnosis, brain electrode implants, electric shock, and beaming different kinds of energy at the brain. The ability to create limited, controlled amnesia through a variety of methods was a primary goal of the mind control programs. P. 87

Brain electrode experiments were also conducted in humans. Dr. Jose Delgado, [51][52][53][54][55][56][57] a neurosurgeon and professor at Yale, received funding for brain electrode research on children and adults. He was able to control the movements of his animal and human subjects by pushing buttons on a remote transmitter box. In one paper, Dr. Delgado describes the cats as “mechanical toys.” An 11-year old boy underwent a partial change of identity upon remote stimulation of his brain electrode: [58] “Electrical stimulation of the superior temporal convolution induced feminine striving and confusion about his own sexual identity. For example, the patient, an 11-year old boy, said, ‘I was thinking whether I was a boy or a girl, which one I’d like to be,’ and ‘I’d like to be a girl.’ After one of the stimulations the patient suddenly began to discuss his desire to get married to the male interviewer. Temporal-lobe stimulation produced in another patient open manifestations and declarations of pleasure, accompanied by giggles and joking with the therapist. In two adult female patients stimulation of the same region was followed by discussion of marriage and expression of a wish to marry the therapist. P. 87-89

Brain electrode research was also conducted independently at Harvard by Dr. Delgado’s coauthors, Drs. Vernon Mark, Frank Ervin, and William Sweet. Mark and Ervin describe implanting brain electrodes in a large number of patients at Harvard hospitals. A patient named Jennie was 14 years old when they put electrodes in her brain. In Mark and Ervin’s Violence and the Brain, [59] photographs show 18-year old Julia smiling, angry, or pounding the wall depending on which button is being pushed on the transmitter box sending signals to her brain electrodes. P. 89-91

Dr. Heath, [60][61][62] Chairman of the Department of Psychiatry and Neurology at Tulane University, placed brain electrodes in a young homosexual man and fitted him with a box. A button on the box could be used to electrically stimulate an electrode implanted in the septal region of his brain, a pleasure center. During one three-our period, the patient, referred to as B-19, stimulated himself 1,500 times. [63] “During these sessions, B-19 stimulated himself to a point that he was experiencing an almost overwhelming euphoria and elation, and had to be disconnected, despite his vigorous protests. P. 94

Non-lethal Weapons

Non-lethal weapons is a broad category which includes devices for beaming various kinds of energy at human targets in order to temporarily incapacitate them, or to control or affect their behavior. Non-lethal weapons research has been conducted at universities in the US on contract to the CIA, and has overlapped with research on hallucinogens and brain electrode implants. Funding of the experiments began in MKULTRA. P. 103

Subproject 62 documents “certain kinds of radio frequency energy have been found to effect reversible neurological changes in chimpanzees.” Subproject 54 was studying how to produce concussions from a distance using mechanical blast waves propagated through the air. The contractor says that such a concussion “is always followed by amnesia for the actual moment of the accident.” He also states: “The blast duration would be in the order of a tenth of a second. Masking of a noise of this duration should not be difficult. It would be advantageous to establish the effectiveness of both of the above methods as a tool in brain-wash therapy.” P. 104, 105

MKULTRA Subproject 119 was a literature review which included a summary of existing information on “Techniques of activation of the human organism by remote electronic means.” According to a report in Defense Electronics, <A title="" href="http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg#_edn64" name=_ednref64>[64] consideration was given to using non-lethal weapons technology on David Koresh during the Branch Davidian siege in the spring of 1993. P. 105

Research on the ability of magnetic fields to facilitate the creation of false memories and altered states of consciousness is apparently funded by the Defense Intelligence Agency through the project cryptonym SLEEPING BEAUTY. “Sleeping Beauty was a Defense Department study of remote microwave min-influencing techniques.” [65] P. 116

There is abundant evidence in the public domain [66] that non-lethal weapons research is ongoing and funded annually in the tens of millions of dollars, or more. Given the fact that chemical and biological weapons, mind control drugs and radiation have been tested on unwitting civilian populations, it is possible that non-lethal weapons have also been tested on unwitting civilians. P 106.

A memorandum from Richard Helms, [67] Acting Deputy Director to Allen Dulles, Director of the CIA dated 3 April 1953 and entitled “Two Extremely Sensitive Research Programs” (MKULTRA and MKDELTA) includes the statement, “Even internally in CIA, as few individuals as possible should be aware of our interest in these fields and of the identity of those who are working for us. At present this results in ridiculous contracts, often with cut-outs [front organizations], which do not spell out the scope or intent of the work. Complete Government audits of such contracts are impossible for the same reason.” P. 125

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William Kelly · July 22, 2008

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Peter,

I don't think Adele has anything else new to say. She's told her story and now its up to discovering what government records say, both about her and Rivera.

I think Col. Jose Rivera, United States Army Reserves, is one of the most important subjects, suspects in the assassination of President Kennedy, given that he expressed foreknowledge of 1) the premature death of Patrick Kennedy 2) the assassination of the President 3) the use of Oswald as a patsy in the murder 4) the assistance of Ruby and the role of the Carousel Club 5) the phone number of Oswald in New Orleans before Oswald himself knew where he would be living and 6) that Oswald was a suspect in the Walker shooting, and 7) the suicide of the President's best friend, all of this in April of 1963.

Most of the dozen and a half documented cases of people expressing foreknoweldge of the assassination stem from hearsay, second hand sources who knew someone who was involved in the operation, while Col. Rivara, in Washington D.C., seemed to have a real sure handle on what was going down in Dallas/New Orleans around Oswald.

Rivera, to know those details of the crime eight months before hand, puts him very close to the heart of the conspiracy, so you would think there would be more interest in who he was and what he was up to and with whom he was conspiring.

BK

William Kelly · July 23, 2008

Peter,
I don't think Adele has anything else new to say. She's told her story and now its up to discovering what government records say, both about her and Rivera.

BK, While she has told her story fully and consistantly, others might have questions for her. I had one she answered to my satisfaction - in fact was rather enlightening.

I think Col. Jose Rivera, United States Army Reserves, is one of the most important subjects, suspects in the assassination of President Kennedy, given that he expressed foreknowledge of 1) the premature death of Patrick Kennedy 2) the assassination of the President 3) the use of Oswald as a patsy in the murder 4) the assistance of Ruby and the role of the Carousel Club 5) the phone number of Oswald in New Orleans before Oswald himself knew where he would be living and 6) that Oswald was a suspect in the Walker shooting, and 7) the suicide of the President's best friend, all of this in April of 1963.

AGREED!

Most of the dozen and a half documented cases of people expressing foreknoweldge of the assassination stem from hearsay, second hand sources who knew someone who was involved in the operation, while Col. Rivara, in Washington D.C., seemed to have a real sure handle on what was going down in Dallas/New Orleans around Oswald.

Rivera, to know those details of the crime eight months before hand, puts him very close to the heart of the conspiracy, so you would think there would be more interest in who he was and what he was up to and with whom he was conspiring.

I agreee Rivera was close to those in the plot; more so if he was in any way connnected to or even just viewing the autopsy! [though that wouldn't even be necessary - he incriminated himself in your points above.] It may well be that he was looking to plant some info [as others had] about Oswald and events, in some subplot of the scenario - or he just had loose lips. It is interesting he chose Adele - she was about to fly to New Orleans immediately after the conference where she first met him and that might be why he 'settled' on her as 'hintee'. This little tidbit of coincidence pointed out to me from Adele: "Oswald left Dallas by bus to New Orleans on Wednesday, April 24, 1963, the same day that I left from Dulles International Airport in Washington for New Orleans."

PL

BK

Peter,

It took me a long time to figure out what Rivera as up to with AE, but taken all together, I think she was used as a sort of siphon, to test the system to see if it worked, like getting her to call the SS in New Orleans and complain before the assassination. That was a good judge of how Special Agent in Charge of Secret Service New Orleans John W. Rice would react.

That was a test of Rice.

How come the head of the SS in New Orleans on 11/22/63 was never called to testify or even questioned?

How come there's so very little on the public record about him?

How come he's disapeared and nobody knows anything about him?

Same for his FBI sidekick, Orrin Bartlett?

Both of whom interviewed AE on 11/24/63, in NO and there's no record of such an interview.

A review of Rivera's military record should tell you who he was associating with in April, 1963, and how they were setting up Oswald beginning with the Walker shooting and the move from Texas to NO, at the same time Adele returned to NO from DC with instructions to contact LHO. A key element, as you point out.

Getting Rivera's complete military record will straighten out a lot, as he was in a number of important places at different times - Ft. Detrick, Japan, Korea, Brooke, Naval Bio Oakland, Calf., and Bathesda.

He also had two offices, one at Bathesda and another at Foggy Bottom, and a secretary who made all his appointments. If the secretary could be identified, and located, she could be a key to the whole schmeil.

BK

Adele Edisen · July 24, 2008

I would like to insert this material at the suggestion of John Simkin so that readers may get an over-all view of my experiences with this issue, and ask questions if they wish.

Adele Edisen

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NARRATIVE ACCOUNT OF CONTACT WITH DR. JOSE RIVERA IN 1963

BY ADELE EDISEN

April 6, 2002

In the summer of 1962 it became apparent that my husband was ill. Although he continued to attend to his practice of psychiatry, he had physical symptoms of what later was diagnosed as cholecystitis - inflammation of the gall bladder. I decided to try to get back into professional work as a neurophysiologist. After searching for a suitable position, I was able to apply to the National Institute of Neurological Diseases and Blindness (NINDB) for a third-year level Postdoctoral Fellowship (I had had a Postdoctoral Feliowship from the NINDB in 1954 through 1956). This work was to be done in the Department ofPhysiology at the Louisiana State University School of Medicine.

In late November or early December, Dr. Sidney Harris, Chairman of the Department, told me that he had received a telephone call from a Dr. Jose Rivera of the NINDB informing him that I had been awarded a Fellowship, beginning January 1, 1963 for one year. It included a stipend (salary) and a small equipment grant to be used for my research on synaptic inhibition and excitation in the cat spinal cord.

I had worked in the Department of Physiology on a volunteer basis during the summer and fall of 1962, so I had accumulated quite a bit of data to present at the April meetings of the Federation of the American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) in Atlantic City, New Jersey. This is a large umbrella organization of six major scientific societies, one of which is the American Physiological Society.

Just before I was to leave for these meetings, I contracted a bad upper respiratory infection, but I was determined to be there for my presentation. My physician prescribed an antibiotic, oxacillin, a semi-synthetic penicillin, to take for about ten days. I actually had a fever on my way to Atlantic City, but began to feel better, although weak, after a few days. I did present my work on Wednesday, April 17, and it was well received. I met a few former classmates from graduate school and felt very optimistic about continuing with my research.

After my presentation and lunch, I wandered through the scientific equipment exhibits at Convention Hall on the Broadwalk. In addition to such exhibits, there were booths of various scientific foundations and other information centers. I had read of a new award to be offered by the National Institutes of Health -the Research Career Development Award (for five years) which seemed to be perfect for me. So when I saw a National Institutes of Health booth, I stopped to ask about it. I was referred to the NINDB booth on the mezzanine floor above.

Jose Rivera was seated there, speaking with someone. When I sat down at the table and introduced myself, Rivera remembered my name and greeted me in a friendly fashion, offering me a Lifesaver peppermint candy from an already opened package. I asked about the Research Career Development Award and about any other support for which 1 might be able to apply after my Postdoctoral Fellowship ended. He did not have any brochures with him, but promised he would locate some by the next day, and asked me to return then.

This 1 did. He had no brochures or information for me, but promised to mail them to me in New Orleans. He again gave me a Lifesaver candy from and open pack.. He suggested we walk downstairs to obtain free Coca-cola drinks. He said he would help me continue with my work. He spoke about his times in New Orleans and it turned out we had some mutual friends and acquaintances there. 1had told him that 1planned to visit the NIH in Bethesda after the meetings, and he then invited me to his home for dinner and to meet his family, which 1 thought was most gracious. When we returned to his booth, he suggested that 1have my electrocardiogram be taken at the adjacent booth (NIH Heart Institute booth). He did an odd thing: he grabbed the recording from the technician and asked him if it was a normal EKG as he read it. The technician told me to take it to my personal physician when 1returned home from the meetings. Another strange thing that Rivera did was to tell me to "call him, day or night, if1noticed anything unusual, anything at all." 1 asked, "What?" and he said, "I mean about the Fellowship. Ifyou have any questions about the Fellowship." .

1 believe the Lifesaver candies were the vehicle for LSD-25 ingestion. 1never saw him take any of the candies, and one time, when 1 put the candy1 had removed from the package into my purse, he insisted that 1 eat it. At that time, 1 remember feeling somewhat euphoric and "floaty" after eating the candy. Also, my eyes became sensitive to bright lights. 1 felt uncoordinated in my movements. 1 blamed these odd feelings and perceptions to the respiratory infection and to the oxacillin antibiotic - because 1 knew 1 was allergic to penicillin and wasn't sure that the oxacillin would not also produce some kind of allergic reaction which might be causing these unusual symptoms. Even later when 1 experienced trailing lights and colors, micropsia (the houses in the Georgetown part of Washington looked so small to me that 1 thought only dwarfs lived in them), giddiness, insomnia, synesthesia, (sudden loud sounds would produce flashes of light) deja vu, and sensations that did not seem normal to me, 1 attributed them all to the respiratory infection, oxacillin, lack of proper sleep, and so on. It did not occur to me, except at the very end of this trip, that Rivera might be drugging me with something. 1 now also understand that LSD-25 can make people more suggestible and, hence, more prone to be hypnotized.

1 spent the weekend with friends in Philadelphia and arrived in Bethesda, the National Institutes of Health, and the NINDB Building 10 on Monday, April 22, 1963. 1 called the various people 1 had hoped to visit there, but it was lunchtime and no cine was in. 1 called Rivera to see if he had any information for me. He asked his secretary to locate a motel where 1 could stay, and that evening 1 was to have dinner at his home. Instead, he explained that his wife, a nurse, had been called to duty at her hospital, so we went to a restaurant in Washington (after the Lifesaver candy), and as we waited to be seated, he began speaking o fhis travels and of Dallas. He recommended the Carousel Club as a "nice nightclub" that 1 should visit when I'm in Dallas. Then he asked if ! knew Lee Oswald. 1 had never heard of him. He explained that Oswald had lived in Russia, had a Russian wife and a child, and they were moving to New Orleans. He said they were a "lovely couple" and I should get to know them. 1 thought Oswald was a scientist friend of his.

As we were about to leave the restaurant, Rivera spoke of a then recent shooting at General Walker in Dallas. Rivera said, "They think Oswald did it." (Note that accusations of Oswald shooting at General Walker were not made publicly until some time after the assassination o fPresident John Kennedy on November 22.)

As we drove back to the motel where I was staying, he asked me to call him at 4:30 and said his secretary would find another motel for me since the one I was staying in was filled for the next night. Also, he said he had heard the weather report and it would be a stormy night. He said I would be kept awake by the thunder and lightning and by the partying guests at the motel. Sure enough, I heard the rain and thunder and the noisy parties. I did not sleep at all; my mouth and throat felt very dry. In the morning I was surprised to see that there was no evidence outside of a downpour of rain as I thought we had had. Tall grass outside was not beaten down and dirt pathways were perfectly dry. There had not been a storm at all. I also experienced deja-vu, that I had checked out of the motel before, that I had entered a cab before to go to the NINDB's Building 10 to visit friends and colleagues. Time would also pass quickly and then slowly. Everything seemed very strange.

I was speaking to a colleague in his office about mutual interests in synaptic functions in the

afternoon when I suddenly stopped, and called Rivera. When I looked at my watch, it was a minute or so after 4:30! This puzzled me.

Rivera came to drive me to my hotel in Washington, and he was to give me a sightseeing trip before going to dinner at his home. I dreaded the evening because I felt unwell, exhausted. This is when he insisted that I eat the peppermint Lifesaver when I didn't want to do so. On the way, he read a list of names of visitors to the NIH and asked if I had met any of hem. I had not. Then he asked me if I knew of John Abt of New York City. I did not,and he explained that Abt was a lawyer who defended communists. I thought these were strange questions to be asking someone like me.

It was now early evening. After we left the Library ofCongress and were driving toward the White House, he said, "I wonder what Jackie will do when he husband dies." I could not believe he said that. "What?" I asked. He said, "Oh, Oh, I meant when (or if) the baby dies. She might lose the baby." I was not even aware that Mrs. Kennedy was pregnant at the time.

As we approached the White House, Rivera spoke of "tourists coming to Washington and

sometimes seeing young Caroline Kennedy on the lawn of the White House with her pony Macaroni." All in all, we circled the White House three times, with side trips squeezed in between, and he spoke of the tourists and Caroline and Macaroni each time, asking me if I saw Caroline and her pony, Macaroni. I did not, but the third time around, I decided to indicate I did, just to see what this was about. I said, "Umrnm." He stepped hard on the accelerator and said, "Fine. Now we'll go to dinner!"

We took off at a fast speed and went to the Mariott Motor Hotel across the Potomac River. His wife had again been called to work. As we were finishing dinner, he asked me to do a favor for him when I arrived back in New Orleans. I took out my little memo book and pencil to make notes. He asked me to call Winston de Monsabert with whom he had taught at Loyola and tell him to call Rivera when he was leaving New Orleans. I wrote: "Winston de Monsabert. Call Dr. Rivera when leaving N.O." (New Orleans).

After a bit more conversation, Rivera began talking about Dallas again. Then he said, "Pretend you're in a phone booth (in Dallas?), and you're very nervous and upset; your handwriting is very shaky. Write down this phone number. He dictated "899-4244". I wrote down the phone number and when I looked at it, it was a crude scrawl, not at all my normal handwriting. In fact the writing just above it with the name of Winston de Monsabert was in my normal handwriting. I was now pretty scared. Was he hypnotizing me, I wondered.

Then he said, "Write down this name: Lee Harvey Oswald. Tell him to kill the chief" I wrote the name and under it, wrote in quotation marks: "kill the chief" When he saw me writing down the message, he said, "No. No. Don't write that down. You'll remember it when you get to New Orleans. We're playing a little joke on him." I assume he meant Oswald.

The "chief' part did not mean much to me, other than that it had some reference to the National Institutes of Health where every study or research section had a director whose title was 'Chief'. Rivera had made a riddle of it, asking why was the NIH called the 'Reservation'. "Because there were so many Chiefs and no Indians there". He told this joke several times to me and to other people we met. Still thinking that Oswald was a scientist friend of his, I thought the expression had something to do with the National Institutes of Health in some way. I had never heard of Oswald before Rivera had begun speaking about him.

However, I became very suspicious about his odd behavior and his talk of something happening. I took my notepad and put it back into my purse, surreptitiously tearing off the top sheet of the notepad and putting it in a separate place in my purse. Rivera was now quite agitated and speaking about ''when it happens". It was almost as if he were having some strange seizure, with his face becoming puffy. "I'll show you where it will happen," he said. I asked what he was talking about, but he gave no answer. He asked for the notepad, which I gave him and he drew a square on it with an X next to it. "This is the room, with windows over here. And this (the "X") is where it will happen. It will be on the fifth floor. There'll be some men up there."

I wanted to get away from him because I was becoming more frightened. On the way out of the dining area, he suddenly pushed me into an open elevator, saying "Want to see the _ Persian? Room?" When we were on the fifth floor, he pointed down the hallway and asked, "What do you see down there? A bar?" I saw no such thing, just room doors. Then he wanted to show me the Pentagon from a large window. I would not get close to him for I feared he might push me through the window. When the elevator that I had called came, I ran for it and tried to close the doors before he could get in. I had no choice but to accompany him to his car while I kept up a barrage of conversation because there were no cabs in front of the motor hotel.

He started talking about the note I had written, asking me to destroy it, and that they were only playing a joke on someone. He threatened me with, "I really don't want to have to hurt you." He proceeded to the driver's side of the car and opened the passenger door from the inside. I put my purse on the seat, and as I reached to close the car door, I heard him searching in my purse for the note he was concerned about. I quickly pulled my purse away from him to my other side. I did not then fully understand the importance of the note, but I felt that I should save the note and remember everything I could.

I believe that I was initially supposed to make contact with Oswald. Oswald left Dallas for New Orleans the same day, Wednesday, April 24, that I left Washington D.C. The phone number I had been given was that of Jesse Gamer, manager of the apartments where Oswald rented one for himself and his family. The apartments were actually owned by William McLaney, who also owned the land across Lake Pontchartrain where the anti-Castro Cubans and the CIA had established a training camp to prepare for an invasion of Cuba. McLaney and his brother were gangsters who had managed gambling casinos in Havana, Cuba, before Fidel Castro came into power. I believe that Oswald was sent there to that apartment complex and Rivera had complete knowledge of this process.

I called the phone number and asked to speak with Lee Harvey Oswald. The first time I called the man who answered (Jesse Gamer) said there was no one there by that name. Oswald did not rent the apartment until May 10, but the second time I called they had apparently arrived. I then spoke with Marina Oswald, as Oswald was not there. I did speak with Oswald during my third call. I asked him if he knew Colonel or Dr. Rivera in Washington. He said he did not. I told him that was odd as Rivera knew of him and his wife. I asked for the address where the phone was located and he gave me an address on Magazine Street. I thanked him and apologized for bothering him. I did not convey Rivera's message. I did identify myself to the apartment manager, to Mrs. Oswald, and to Oswald himself.

There were other comments made by Rivera which pertained to the assassination of President Kennedy. He said:

"After it's over, the men will be out of the country."

"The Director ofthe International Trade Mart is involved in this."

"He'll call Abt to defend him." (Oswald did try to reach John Abt after he was captured.)

"We're going to send him to the library to read about great assassinations in history."

"After it's over, someone will kill him. They'll say his best friend killed him." (He was referring

to Oswald.)

"It will happen after the Shriners' Circus comes to New Orleans." (The Shriners' Circus usually came to New Orleans the second week of November.)

"After it happens, the President's best friend will commit suicide. He'll jump out of a window because of his grief." (Grant Stockdale of Miami, a friend of Kennedy's and former ambassador to Ireland, did so in December, 1963, although some believe he was murdered.)

Rivera make a number of threatening statements to me about going to the FBI; that "we will be watching you"; and told me to destroy the note. I believe that he gave me a possible lethal dose of either LSD-25 of some similar drug (BZ?) because I felt as if ! were dying when I left Washington and remained that way for an entire week. Another reason for thinking he might have done so was that in September he was at the LSU School of Medicine walking down the hallway, and when he noticed me, he stopped, almost tripped, stumbled backwards, and looked as if he had seen a ghost. He did not say anything to me, nor I to him, and he hurried on.

I had some flashbacks during the summer, and many fearful episodes, but I managed somehow to continue with my research. In early July I called the local Secret Service Office to make an appointment to speak with them, as I thought they should be told about this occurrence. An Agent Rice had answered and I told him briefly that I had met someone who had said some very strange things about the President which they should know about. I was about to go there, but I became frightened and thought they would not believe me, so I canceled. Also, my husband would have been furious to learn that I had done so, because when I had told him of the things that Rivera had said, and even though he thought there was a conspiracy to kill the President, he thought we should not get involved. I had wanted to go to the Secret Service or the FBI then, but he did not want me to, fearing some embarrassment for him, I suppose. He had consulted with two attorneys and their advice was that nothing could be done because it was a matter of my words against Rivera's.

When the assassination occurred, I called the Secret Service and went to speak with them. Secret Service Agent John Rice (he was Agent-in-Charge of the New Orleans Secret Service) escorted me to the FBI office in the Federal Building where an FBI Liaison Special Agent, Orrin Bartlett, was present. He was from Washington. I told them my story, beginning with the trip to the FASEB Meeting and then Rivera's odd statement about what "Jackie would do when her husband dies." Agent Rice began to take notes, but after a while he stopped. I believe the interview was tape recorded. I was there for at least 3-4 hours, during which time FBI Special Agent Bartlett called his headquarter and asked them to bring Rivera in for interrogation. Both agents seemed very concerned and appreciative of my information. I gave the top portion of my note with the Winston de Monsabert name, message, and the phone number on it to the FBI Agent when he asked for it. In July after my call to the Secret Service, I had destroyed the bottom portion of Oswald's name and Rivera's message to him on it for fear that if the President were to be assassinated, and this note were to be found in my handwriting, it would be very difficult to explain.

I believed that Rivera had been apprehended and was incarcerated. When I received a form letter with Rivera's signature on it acknowledging receipt of my progress report (requested by someone else of the Training Grants and Award Section of the NINDB), I became terrified. I assumed that the Secret Service Agent and the FBI Agent did not believe me, although they had asked me to call them if I remembered anything else. They also had told me not to speak to anyone about my being there, as a protection for myself. I expected to be called before the Warren Commission, but I never was.

My husband suggested that I consult Milton Erickson, a respected medical hypnotist, to confirm my experiences and memories. I tried to make contact with him several times, but each time he had some medical emergency of his own and I was never able to see him. I suffered through fearful times, depressions and anxieties. For many years I did not speak of these things and would not read anything about the assassination.

However, in late 1974, the "Tomorrow" television program featured an interview between Tom Snyder and a man whose identity and features were hidden and who claimed that there had been a conspiracy by some government employees of certain federal agencies to murder the President. The man claimed to have been a liaison between a military unit (Air Force?) and the CIA. I started to read books by critics of the Warren Commission. In April of 1975, after a few other programs on the assassination, I wrote to the Tomorrow Program and received a phone call from Ms. Pamela Burke, Executive Producer of the show. This began a telephone friendship which lasted a few years.

One week before the Rockefeller Commission revealed the LSD 'experimentation on witting and unwitting civilian and military personnel by the CIA, Army and Navy, I told her about Rivera's drugging me. She tried to locate him and to investigate what she could. She advised that I needed an attorney.

I consulted Attorney Jack Peebles in New Orleans who recommended making Freedom of Information requests of the FBI, CIA, USSS, which I did. Over the years I have repeated these requests, asking for copies of reports of my interview with the FBI and Secret Service on November 24, 1963. The responses have not been positive. Mr. Peebles sent letters to the Chairmen of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (no real interest on the part of Senator Church; Senator Inouye expressed interest, but his staff member did not think the Committee's purview extended to investigate Rivera), and to the Chairmen of the House Select Committee on Assassinations (Louis Stoked and Richardson Preyer - no acknowledgment or response of any kind).

I consulted Richard Garver, a hypnotist, to try to recover the remainder of the telephone number I had been given by Rivera. I had remembered the first three digits, 899, and the last two, 44, when I wrote up my experiences for Mr. Peebles in 1976 (for safekeeping if anything untoward were to happen to me), but was not sure of the intermediate numbers. Through Mr. Garver I met a Special Agent of the FBI in the San Antonio FBI office in late 1984, and he suggested that I write a very brief summary of my experiences which he would send to his Headquarters in Washington, D.C. This was completed in February 1985, but neither one of us heard anything in response. This was some years after the House Select Committee on Assassinations had concluded, in 1978, from acoustical studies that there had been more than three shots and a second gunman, hence a conspiracy, and had directed the Justice Department to investigate this matter, which, apparently, it did not do.

In 1992 when passage of the law to collect government documents related to the President Kennedy assassination was being considered, I wrote to as many Congressmen as I could, among them Louis Stokes. His vote was crucial to passage of the law. I received a very nice letter of acknowledgment from him. Somehow my three-page summary and the FBI's Agent's covering letter were found by a staff member of the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) and a copy now resides in Box 18 of the Douglas Home section of the JFK Collection in the National Archives II (NARA II) in College Park, Maryland, among with other documents of mine and government files on Jose A. Rivera. I am mentioned on page 109, as well as identified as giving testimony in Dallas in 1994, in the Final Report of the Assassination Records Review Board.

I wish to thank Dave Robertson, Attorney-at-Law, for his suggestions and editorial assistance with this article.

Adele Edisen · July 24, 2008

Bill, I am not yet used to the ways of this Forum right now, so please bear with me.

I am not sure about your hypothesis that Rivera's attempt to make me call Oswald and tell him to "kill the chief" was any "test" of John Rice of the Secret Service, nor of Orrin Bartlett of the FBI.

Please think of the cover story that was first proposed on radio and in the press that Oswald was a communist from Russia and friend of Castro. Castro was supposed to have been behind the assassination from the beginning. Oswald was part of some left-wing, communist plot. This was the earliest news we had. This was broadcast that very same afternoon. That was what I heard on the radio at the Louisiana State University School of Medicine laboratory when we all listened to the radio news. It was supposed to be a conspiracy, but a left-wing one, involving Castro and hence, the Soviets.

I think I was selected to call Oswald, not necessarily because I was supposed to be a who was left-winger, but because I lived in New Orleans. My political orientation had nothing to do with the fact that I was asked to call Oswald to supposedly tell him to :"kill the chief". In those days of misogyny and anti-feminism, any professional "uppity" woman could have been labeled left-wing, or worse, in the South, or by a Latino "macho" man, which Rivera apparently thought he was. This man was not the brightest of people, I can tell you.

Just think of what would have happened if I had given Oswald Rivera's message and not called the Secret Service or FBI at all. I could have been labeled part of Oswald's and Castro's conspiracy plot against the United States. I think this was on the mind of John Rice and Orrin Bartlett at first. However, the fact that I had tried to reach them in July indicated that I was not a conspirator.

Also consider the fact that Rivera realized I was not totally under his hypnotic control. Not only did he threaten me and my family to keep me from going to the authorities, but he tried to murder me. In September of 1963, shortly after Labor Day, he saw me at the LSU School of Medicine talking in the hallway with the neurologist, Dr. Gregory Ferris, and he looked as if he had seen a ghost. He had not expected to see me there. That is when I knew he had tried to kill me in April of 1963.

Every animal species tested has an LD-50 level. LD-50 refers to the dosage level of any drug which kills 50% of the test animals. LSD has been tested for this toxicity in fish, amphibian, reptilian, and mammalian species, including apes, but not humans. An elephant was killed by using LSD. and that is cited in the literature.

In February of 1992 I tracked down Orrin Bartlett at his home in Pennsylvania. He had retired from the FBI many years before. I wanted to find out if he had placed a report of my interview with him and John Rice of the Secret Service. What surprised and stunned me was that he kept saying to me, "I'm so glad you called me." He said that about four times. I was so surprised at this that I forgot to ask him about his report. I thought he was glad to know that I was still alive.

The FBI very quickly took over the investigation of the assassination. The Secret Service was told to stay out it. This may be why Rice is not well known. I thin he was an honest man, and I think Orrin Bartlett was also. They just had to follow orders from above. It was during this time of my interview that J Edgar and Katzenbach made their views known.

If you look at Forrest Sorrels account (Warren Commission and elsewhere), the SS Agent-in-Charge of the Dallas office, he did a lot of investigating on his own, especially with regard to "Honest Joe", the pawnshop owner and good friend of Jack Ruby. Honest Joe's station wagon with cardboard-covered windows and name of his pawnshop may be seen in the Nix film, the Bell film, and some others, next to the cement fence extended toward Elm Street from the pergola on top of the Grassy Knoll. Someone I know has a blowup from a still picture from the Nix film which shows a shooter standing on the running board, in a perfect position to make the initial throat wound or the head shot to the President. He is holding a long-barreled pistol or a Remington Fireball weapon with a pistol-type grip. I urge anyone to look into this matter. Forrest Sorrels was most interested in "Honest Joe", it seems. If I recall, "Honest Joe" was Rubin Silverstein, also called "Ruby.".

Adele Edisen · July 24, 2008

Bill, I am not yet used to the ways of this Forum right now, so please bear with me.
I am not sure about your hypothesis that Rivera's attempt to make me call Oswald and tell him to "kill the chief" was any "test" of John Rice of the Secret Service, nor of Orrin Bartlett of the FBI.

Please think of the cover story that was first proposed on radio and in the press that Oswald was a communist from Russia and friend of Castro. Castro was supposed to have been behind the assassination from the beginning. Oswald was part of some left-wing, communist plot. This was the earliest news we had. This was broadcast that very same afternoon. That was what I heard on the radio at the Louisiana State University School of Medicine laboratory when we all listened to the radio news. It was supposed to be a conspiracy, but a left-wing one, involving Castro and hence, the Soviets.

I think I was selected to call Oswald, not necessarily because I was supposed to be a left-winger, but because I lived in New Orleans. My political orientation had nothing to do with the fact that I was asked to call Oswald to supposedly tell him to :"kill the chief". In those days of misogyny and anti-feminism, any professional "uppity" woman could have been labeled left-wing, or worse, in the South, or by a Latino "macho" man, which Rivera apparently thought he was. This man was not the brightest of people, I can tell you.

Just think of what would have happened if I had given Oswald Rivera's message and not called the Secret Service or FBI at all. I could have been labeled part of Oswald's and Castro's conspiracy plot against the United States. I think this was on the mind of John Rice and Orrin Bartlett at first. However, the fact that I had tried to reach them in July indicated that I was not a conspirator.

Also consider the fact that Rivera realized I was not totally under his hypnotic control. Not only did he threaten me and my family to keep me from going to the authorities, but he tried to murder me. In September of 1963, shortly after Labor Day, he saw me at the LSU School of Medicine talking in the hallway with the neurologist, Dr. Gregory Ferris, and he looked as if he had seen a ghost. He had not expected to see me there. That is when I knew he had tried to kill me in April of 1963.

Every animal species tested has an LD-50 level. LD-50 refers to the dosage level of any drug which kills 50% of the test animals. LSD has been tested for this toxicity in fish, amphibian, reptilian, and mammalian species, including apes, but not humans. An elephant was killed by using LSD. and that is cited in the literature.

In February of 1992 I tracked down Orrin Bartlett at his home in Pennsylvania. He had retired from the FBI many years before. I wanted to find out if he had placed a report of my interview with him and John Rice of the Secret Service. What surprised and stunned me was that he kept saying to me, "I'm so glad you called me." He said that about four times. I was so surprised at this that I forgot to ask him about his report. I thought he was glad to know that I was still alive.

The FBI very quickly took over the investigation of the assassination. The Secret Service was told to stay out it. This may be why Rice is not well known. I think he was an honest man, and I think Orrin Bartlett was also. They just had to follow orders from above. It was during this time of my interview that J Edgar and Katzenbach made their views known.

If you look at Forrest Sorrels account (Warren Commission and elsewhere), the SS Agent-in-Charge of the Dallas office, he did a lot of investigating on his own, especially with regard to "Honest Joe", the pawnshop owner and good friend of Jack Ruby. Honest Joe's station wagon with cardboard-covered windows and name of his pawnshop may be seen in the Nix film, the Bell film, and some others, next to the cement fence extended toward Elm Street from the pergola on top of the Grassy Knoll. Someone I know has a blowup from a still picture from the Nix film which shows a shooter standing on the running board, in a perfect position to make the initial throat wound or the head shot to the President. He is holding a long-barreled pistol or a Remington Fireball weapon with a pistol-type grip. I urge anyone to look into this matter. Forrest Sorrels was most interested in "Honest Joe", it seems. If I recall, "Honest Joe" was Rubin Goldstein, also called "Ruby.".

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William Kelly · July 24, 2008

Bill, I am not yet used to the ways of this Forum right now, so please bear with me.
I am not sure about your hypothesis that Rivera's attempt to make me call Oswald and tell him to "kill the chief" was any "test" of John Rice of the Secret Service, nor of Orrin Bartlett of the FBI.

Please think of the cover story that was first proposed on radio and in the press that Oswald was a communist from Russia and friend of Castro. Castro was supposed to have been behind the assassination from the beginning. Oswald was part of some left-wing, communist plot. This was the earliest news we had. This was broadcast that very same afternoon. That was what I heard on the radio at the Louisiana State University School of Medicine laboratory when we all listened to the radio news. It was supposed to be a conspiracy, but a left-wing one, involving Castro and hence, the Soviets.

I think I was selected to call Oswald, not necessarily because I was supposed to be a left-winger, but because I lived in New Orleans. My political orientation had nothing to do with the fact that I was asked to call Oswald to supposedly tell him to :"kill the chief". In those days of misogyny and anti-feminism, any professional "uppity" woman could have been labeled left-wing, or worse, in the South, or by a Latino "macho" man, which Rivera apparently thought he was. This man was not the brightest of people, I can tell you.......

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If you look at Forrest Sorrels account (Warren Commission and elsewhere), the SS Agent-in-Charge of the Dallas office, he did a lot of investigating on his own, especially with regard to "Honest Joe", the pawnshop owner and good friend of Jack Ruby. Honest Joe's station wagon with cardboard-covered windows and name of his pawnshop may be seen in the Nix film, the Bell film, and some others, next to the cement fence extended toward Elm Street from the pergola on top of the Grassy Knoll. Someone I know has a blowup from a still picture from the Nix film which shows a shooter standing on the running board, in a perfect position to make the initial throat wound or the head shot to the President. He is holding a long-barreled pistol or a Remington Fireball weapon with a pistol-type grip. I urge anyone to look into this matter. Forrest Sorrels was most interested in "Honest Joe", it seems. If I recall, "Honest Joe" was Rubin Silverstein, also called "Ruby.".

Adele, Welcome back to this Forum. Anyone have photos of the Honest Joe station wagon? I certainly remember seeing it, but not heard of a person with a possible weapon seen there. What would you estimate the total time Rivera spent talking to you at the convention and elsewhere? Thanks.

Gotcha Adele, I was just speculating on what it all means.

Here's a link to some info on Honest Joe's, and here's Joe Cody again. Isn't he all over the place? -

http://www.dallashistory.org/cgi-bin/webbb...ames;read=15212

A credible source on the Goldsteins and various other pawnbrokers and pawnshops is Alan B Govenar's and Jay F Brakefield's, "Deep Ellum and Central Track," published 1998 by the University of North Texas Press.

It includes details and/or photos of Uncle Sam's Pawnshop, Honest Joe's Pawnshop, Dave's Pawnshop, Day and Night Pawnshop, and King Edward Pawnshop, a shrine to Honest Joe's established by son Eddie on "Deeep" East Grand, and others.

As I recall Dave Goldstein, Isaac "Rocky" Goldstein, and Rubin "Honest Joe" Goldstein were brothers.

There are pics of a couple of machine guns, but not mounted on the car. Of this it is kstated, "A gaudy station wagon parked outside the store (Honest Joe's) featured a non-functional machine gun. Joe Cody recalled that when things got slow, "Honest Joe" would drive the wagon downtown, park it illegally near the courthouse and stage a shouting match with whatever hapless officer showed up to ticket the vehicle. Anything for publicity." There are references to the John Hinkley gun, the association with Jack Ruby, but not the Ruby gun.

And I second Peter's request for a copy of this photo of Uncle Joe's Pawn Shop truck at DP.

Here's a thread already started on Honest Joe's

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...t=0#entry143891

There's also an article in Third/Fourth Decade w/Photo you can read at Mary Ferrell,

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...t=0#entry143952

BK

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Edited July 24, 2008 by William Kelly

Adele Edisen · July 25, 2008

Adele, Welcome back to this Forum. Anyone have photos of the Honest Joe station wagon to post? What would you estimate the total time Rivera spent talking to you at the convention and elsewhere? What is so very strange [in the strange set of events] is his giving and then wanting to take back the information - being polite and then being threatening. Can you describe further the effects of what drug you think he might have given you. Thanks.

Peter,

I'll answer this one question right now. I'll get back to the others later.

The very first time I saw the Nix film (Nix 2 because he had taken earlier pictures before the one which included the Grassy Knoll), the top of the Grassy Knoll was not visible in it. Just the lower parts of the frames were shown in which the presidential limousine was obvious. Some years later, I happened upon another version of the Nix film in which the full frames were seen, and next to the pergola, between the wooden stockade fence and the low concrete wall was this vehicle in plain view. It remains there throughout the entire length of the film.

You Tube may have a video of the Nix 2 film. Try a Google search.

When I first visited Dealey Plaza in 1991, I walked all around the pergola and the Grassy Knoll and came around the pergola from the back and went toward the steps leading to Elm Street. I remember thinking that the space between the pergola and the wooden stockade fence was wide enough that I could have driven my former 1969 Pontiac wide-track station wagon through there, with plenty of room to spare. It was the widest car then manufactured.

Jean Hill and one other witness on the north side of Elm Street, a US Marine veteran, gave testimony that they had seen the Honest Joe wagon with card-board covered windows driving around Dealey Plaza for advertising purposes before the arrival of the presidential motorcade. I believe the Marine veteran gave his testimony to the the Dallas Police - he was not called before the Warren Commission, and I don't remember his name right now.

The Dallas police apparently gave Honest Joe permission to drive behind the pergola, but they waved away other cars from going there from the little spur from Elm Street at the corner in front of the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building.

Honest Joe's wagon was an Edsel station wagon. It was reported to have a mock machine gun mounted on the roof, and "Honest Joe's Pawnshop" was painted on its sides. In the Nix film the vehicle is visible all through the seven seconds or so of the film, during the frontal head shot to the President, Jackie's climb on the trunk of the car, Clint Hill's run and climb onto the trunk of the limousine, and the acceleration of the car onto the underpass.

Orville Nix was a heating and air conditioning maintenance worker who worked in the building occupied by the US Secret Service in Dallas. He was very well known to Forrest Sorrels. In fact, Sorrels helped him get his film accepted by the FBI as evidence, which they had initially rejected. (Wonder why?) I think the blocking of the Nix frames in the early version of the Nix film that I first saw was an attempt to cover up the participation of Honest Joe, Rubin Goldstein, and/or his car.

According to Beverly Oliver, she said she ran up to the Grassy Knoll after the shooting and

saw "Geneva White's husband there." He was dressed in a dark shirt, no hat, policeman's trousers. and with no gun - pistol. That would be Roscoe White who had been recently hired by the Dallas Police Department as a photographer and clerk. He was not yet a policeman, but was in training to become one, and did in 1964. He had no legal right to wear a police uniform, but his getup very much resembled a policeman's uniform. He could have obtained his costume from Honest Joe who bought used uniforms from policemen who were retiring or quitting. Roscoe White, a former Marine, was an expert gunman and is known to have practiced shooting, according to his son, Ricky. It is believed that he was also connected to the CIA, and his proximity to the location of the Honest Joe wagon on the Grassy Knoll is mighty suspicious.

Of course, the gunman on the running board of the wagon could have been someone else, hiding in plain sight. And there were others, such as the gunman in a business suit seen by Ed Hoffman behind the wooden stockade fence. More shots were heard even after the fatal head shot, according to some witnesses.

The Bell film also shows a glimpse of this vehicle on the Grassy Knoll. Someone may have pictures of the Honest Joe wagon by itself. The Edsel station wagons were also used as ambulances; they were that roomy.

Adele

Ron Ecker · July 25, 2008

"He'll call Abt to defend him." (Oswald did try to reach John Abt after he was captured.) . . .
"After it's over, someone will kill him. They'll say his best friend killed him." (He was referring

to Oswald.)

The Abt reference seems like a very odd thing for Rivera to say, because it implies that the capture of Oswald was part of the assassination plan, hence Oswald would seek a lawyer. It seems more likely that Oswald was either to be killed immediately, or killed after being taken out of the country (ostensibly on his way to Cuba), and something went wrong, resulting in his capture, which in turn resulted in the desperate measure of Jack Ruby having to rub him out at the police station. The assassins would simply not want Oswald captured as he was.

Whom might Oswald's "best friend" refer to? If I had to name an Oswald best friend, it would be de Mohrenschildt. Is it conceivable that that was the plan? (Wasn't de Mohrenschildt in Haiti?) Or the "best friend" could have been some supposed cohort of Oswald (one of his fellow "shooters") in the flight to Cuba, if that was the planned scenario for his elimination.

Ron Ecker · July 25, 2008

Some years later, I happened upon another version of the Nix film in which the full frames were seen, and next to the pergola, between the wooden stockade fence and the low concrete wall was this vehicle in plain view. It remains there throughout the entire length of the film. . . . I think the blocking of the Nix frames in the early version of the Nix film that I first saw was an attempt to cover up the participation of Honest Joe, Rubin Goldstein, and/or his car.

Adele,

I think you're referring to the so-called "classic gunman" image on the Grassy Knoll.

Edit: I am no longer able to post images for some reason.

This image was discussed here a few years ago, and I think the best explanation that emerged is that the vehicle seen was actually parked back in the parking lot, and that the "gunman" image that appears to be atop the car is light and shadow on the wall of the shelter. (I believe this was the conclusion of the HSCA.) This "gunman" never moves throughout the film.

Edited July 25, 2008 by Ron Ecker

Linda Minor · July 25, 2008

"He'll call Abt to defend him." (Oswald did try to reach John Abt after he was captured.) . . .
"After it's over, someone will kill him. They'll say his best friend killed him." (He was referring

to Oswald.)

The Abt reference seems like a very odd thing for Rivera to say, because it implies that the capture of Oswald was part of the assassination plan, hence Oswald would seek a lawyer. It seems more likely that Oswald was either to be killed immediately, or killed after being taken out of the country (ostensibly on his way to Cuba), and something went wrong, resulting in his capture, which in turn resulted in the desperate measure of Jack Ruby having to rub him out at the police station. The assassins would simply not want Oswald captured as he was.

Whom might Oswald's "best friend" refer to? If I had to name an Oswald best friend, it would be de Mohrenschildt. Is it conceivable that that was the plan? (Wasn't de Mohrenschildt in Haiti?) Or the "best friend" could have been some supposed cohort of Oswald (one of his fellow "shooters") in the flight to Cuba, if that was the planned scenario for his elimination.

The part about Oswald's best friend above did not appear in the story that appeared in Bill's article in the Fourth Decade in November 1999. See link at http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=9 at page 11. That's also how it appears at http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKrivera.htm.

Edisen remembers Rivera then being "agitated and excited. He began talking strangely about 'it' happening" and drew a diagram on a napkin, almost incoherent and very agitated. "It will be on the fifth floor, there'll be some men up there," he said. Edisen quoted Rivera as saying nonsensical things like, "Oswald was not what he seems. We're going to send him to the library to read about great assassinations in history. After it's over, he'll call Abt to defend him. After it happens, the President's best friend will commit suicide. He'll jump out of a window because of his grief... It will happened after the Shriners' Circus comes to New Orleans. After it's over, the men will be out of the country. Remember, the first time it happens won't be real."

Linda Minor · July 25, 2008

Bill, I am not yet used to the ways of this Forum right now, so please bear with me.
I am not sure about your hypothesis that Rivera's attempt to make me call Oswald and tell him to "kill the chief" was any "test" of John Rice of the Secret Service, nor of Orrin Bartlett of the FBI.

Please think of the cover story that was first proposed on radio and in the press that Oswald was a communist from Russia and friend of Castro. Castro was supposed to have been behind the assassination from the beginning. Oswald was part of some left-wing, communist plot. This was the earliest news we had. This was broadcast that very same afternoon. That was what I heard on the radio at the Louisiana State University School of Medicine laboratory when we all listened to the radio news. It was supposed to be a conspiracy, but a left-wing one, involving Castro and hence, the Soviets.

I think I was selected to call Oswald, not necessarily because I was supposed to be a left-winger, but because I lived in New Orleans. My political orientation had nothing to do with the fact that I was asked to call Oswald to supposedly tell him to :"kill the chief". In those days of misogyny and anti-feminism, any professional "uppity" woman could have been labeled left-wing, or worse, in the South, or by a Latino "macho" man, which Rivera apparently thought he was. This man was not the brightest of people, I can tell you.......

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If you look at Forrest Sorrels account (Warren Commission and elsewhere), the SS Agent-in-Charge of the Dallas office, he did a lot of investigating on his own, especially with regard to "Honest Joe", the pawnshop owner and good friend of Jack Ruby. Honest Joe's station wagon with cardboard-covered windows and name of his pawnshop may be seen in the Nix film, the Bell film, and some others, next to the cement fence extended toward Elm Street from the pergola on top of the Grassy Knoll. Someone I know has a blowup from a still picture from the Nix film which shows a shooter standing on the running board, in a perfect position to make the initial throat wound or the head shot to the President. He is holding a long-barreled pistol or a Remington Fireball weapon with a pistol-type grip. I urge anyone to look into this matter. Forrest Sorrels was most interested in "Honest Joe", it seems. If I recall, "Honest Joe" was Rubin Silverstein, also called "Ruby.".

Adele, Welcome back to this Forum. Anyone have photos of the Honest Joe station wagon? I certainly remember seeing it, but not heard of a person with a possible weapon seen there. What would you estimate the total time Rivera spent talking to you at the convention and elsewhere? Thanks.

Gotcha Adele, I was just speculating on what it all means.

Here's a link to some info on Honest Joe's, and here's Joe Cody again. Isn't he all over the place? -

http://www.dallashistory.org/cgi-bin/webbb...ames;read=15212

A credible source on the Goldsteins and various other pawnbrokers and pawnshops is Alan B Govenar's and Jay F Brakefield's, "Deep Ellum and Central Track," published 1998 by the University of North Texas Press.

It includes details and/or photos of Uncle Sam's Pawnshop, Honest Joe's Pawnshop, Dave's Pawnshop, Day and Night Pawnshop, and King Edward Pawnshop, a shrine to Honest Joe's established by son Eddie on "Deeep" East Grand, and others.

As I recall Dave Goldstein, Isaac "Rocky" Goldstein, and Rubin "Honest Joe" Goldstein were brothers.

There are pics of a couple of machine guns, but not mounted on the car. Of this it is kstated, "A gaudy station wagon parked outside the store (Honest Joe's) featured a non-functional machine gun. Joe Cody recalled that when things got slow, "Honest Joe" would drive the wagon downtown, park it illegally near the courthouse and stage a shouting match with whatever hapless officer showed up to ticket the vehicle. Anything for publicity." There are references to the John Hinkley gun, the association with Jack Ruby, but not the Ruby gun.

And I second Peter's request for a copy of this photo of Uncle Joe's Pawn Shop truck at DP.

Here's a thread already started on Honest Joe's

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...t=0#entry143891

There's also an article in Third/Fourth Decade w/Photo you can read at Mary Ferrell,

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...t=0#entry143952

BK

.

I found a picture of Honest Joe's Pawn Shop at www.southernspaces.org/contents/2007/pask/1b.htm but nothing so far of the Edsel. See http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_th...n_theories.html for a clip from the Orville Nix-U.P.I. film and partial blowup of the concrete wall.

Nix Film. Below the film are clips of other relevant films as well. Also, there is an interview with Orville Nix at http://www.veoh.com/videos/e971217txfbZqT?...&c=JFKfiles and his granddaughter's statement about how his interview with Warren Commission officials occurred at http://www.veoh.com/videos/e1692679fa2HtGs...&c=JFKfiles

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