Don Roberdeau Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 (edited) Good Day All.... Can someone, Please, provide the Secret Service "Cadillac" followup car dimensions and/or its scaled diagram? The following professionally surveyed map is why I am asking for the SS car details (on the map the SS car is colored gray.... this is not a finalized professional survey, yet).... http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/DP31..._limo_SScar.gif In this preliminary work, 3 of 5 theorized rear trajectories pass directly over the SS car. Interestingly (revealing to the point of debunking?) the warrenatti theorized "lone nut" "snipers lair" trajectory passes directly over, possibly directly into, where, very well, could have been two SS agents (each headtop approximately 7' above the Elm Street pavement) on its theorized trajectory to the approximately 3.5' to 4.5' President KENNEDY theorized rear head impact.... hmmmmmmmm.... think about that.... From his cartoons that I have seen (but not purchased), I am starting to understand Myers (deliberate?) choice to not include the SS car/standing SS agents.... Don Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, "Big John" Plank Walker Sooner, or later, the Truth emerges Clearly http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/DP.jpg http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSE...NOUNCEMENT.html http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/BOND...PINGarnold.html http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/GHOS...update2001.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore "I turned around to find out what happened when two additional shots rang out and the President slumped into Mrs. Kennedy's lap and Governor Connally fell to Mrs. Connally's lap." (KELLERMAN did not start his FIRST turn rearward until Zf-253/254) ----ROY KELLERMAN, Secret Service agent in Presidential limousine, Original Treasury dept. report 11/29/63, & WCR 18H724 Edited May 28, 2005 by Don Roberdeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Wilkinson Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Good Day All.... Can someone, Please, provide the Secret Service "Cadillac" followup car dimensions and/or its scaled diagram? I could have sworn I had a scaled diagram of the secret service follow up car. I will continue looking through my documents for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Wilkinson Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Good Day All.... Can someone, Please, provide the Secret Service "Cadillac" followup car dimensions and/or its scaled diagram? Ask James, he seems to have a picture of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Wilkinson Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Good Day All.... Can someone, Please, provide the Secret Service "Cadillac" followup car dimensions and/or its scaled diagram? Ask James, he seems to have a picture of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) . Edited May 14, 2007 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) This link may be helpful: http://www.fairfieldmint.com/inventory/56_..._4t/index.shtml The die-cast model, in 1:24 scale, is 11" long...which would approximate the length of the real "Queen Mary" as 22 feet long... Here's some data from an eBay ad for a similar 1:24 die-cast model: YAT MING PRESIDENTIAL SERIES COLLECTABLE DIECAST #24038 1956 CADILLAC PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE As Used by President Dwight D. "Ike" Eisenhower 1:24 Scale Diecast Metal Replica Opening Hood Opening Doors Opening Trunk Workable Steering 2 Flags - USA and Presidential - Mounted on Fenders Lots Of Detail On Body, Engine & Interior The 1956 Cadillac presidential parade cars were 21 feet long and weighed 7,000 pounds. The two identical cars were built by Hess & Eisenhardt, beginning with a Series 56-86 commercial chassis characterized by a 158 inch wheelbase and a 365 cid, 305 horsepower V-8 engine. Because they replaced the previous twin presidential Cadillac parade cars known as the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth (named after the largest ocean liners of the day), they became known as Queen Mary II and Queen Elizabeth II. Like the cars they replaced, they were arsenals on wheels with features like pistol holders and a rifle rack. There were also phones and a large extra-large siren with an oscillating rear light. The car tires were fitted with a narrow rim inside the tire to support the car should the tires be shot out. The special Cadillac could travel 115 mph if needed. Secret Service agents were given extensive training in driving these huge cars under all possible emergency conditions, including while under bullet fire or with other agents firing weapons from the moving car. This car is still operating today, although retired in 1968, and is owned by a businessman in Cincinnati. Hope these length and wheelbase data are of some assistance [if you know the wheelbase, you can estimate length/height from that information]. Edited June 30, 2005 by Mark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Yet another link which might yield some clues: http://www.car-nection.com/yann/Dbas_txt/prof56.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Don, since I haven't seen any follow-up on this topic in over a week, I figured I'd "bump" it closer to the top of the pile in case there's something you can use here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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