John Simkin Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 See the following to see where JFK rates against Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Raymond Carroll Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 This Discovery Channel poll cited by the Guardian would not be considered scientific, since the respondents were self-selected. Below is the most recent Gallup poll which shows JFK and FDR tied for 4th place behind Reagan Clinton & Lincoln. If you look at the long run of polls its a contest between Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Reagan. Tim Gratz's heroes, LBJ & Nixon, are usually counted among the worst presidents ever, and no one knows why. It would be very interesting to take a scientific poll Outside the US to find the greatest US President. I suspect that only JFK & FDR would be in contention. Presidents and History All data are from nationwide surveys of Americans 18 & older. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gallup Poll. Feb. 7-10, 2005. N=1,008 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. . "Who do you regard as the greatest United States president?" . 2/05 11/03 2/99 % % % Ronald Reagan 20 13 12 Bill Clinton 15 9 12 Abraham Lincoln 14 17 18 Franklin Roosevelt 12 11 9 John Kennedy 12 17 12 George W. Bush 5 3 - George Washington 5 7 12 Jimmy Carter 3 3 3 Harry Truman 2 3 4 Theodore Roosevelt 2 3 3 Thomas Jefferson 2 3 2 George H. W. Bush 1 2 5 Dwight Eisenhower 1 2 2 Richard Nixon 1 1 2 Other 1 2 1 None 1 - 1 No opinion 3 4 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Greatest Americans? None in the last 100 years. Thomas Jefferson Benjamin Franklin Thomas Edison Worst? A long list. Anybody named Bush Lyndon Johnson Richard Nixon Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 My nomination for Greatest American living today would be Sibel Edmonds. It's no wonder she's persecuted by the government, and ignored by the media and public (even though the Jacko trial is now over). Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Turner Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Greatest American, Bill Hicks. Guy made me laugh till I P***ed my pants. Oh and BTW, Greatest Englishman, Tom Paine. Steve.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 My nomination for Greatest American living today would be Sibel Edmonds. It's no wonder she's persecuted by the government, and ignored by the media and public (even though the Jacko trial is now over). For those who do not know about Sibel Edmonds see: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/...ain526954.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted June 30, 2005 Author Share Posted June 30, 2005 Oh and BTW, Greatest Englishman, Tom Paine. Steve.... I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Oh and BTW, Greatest Englishman, Tom Paine. Steve.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, fellows...over here we consider Tom Paine an American! Most of the Colonists were English. Paine was a GREAT American! But he was English first. Interesting, though, that you consider an English "traitor" the GREATEST ENGLISHMAN. I agree that his writings (thoughts) had a GREAT influence on history. Wasn't he influenced by Franklin (one of my heroes of history)? Franklin and I share the same birthdate. I consider men of great intellect to be GREATEST. So topping my list is LEONARDO DA VINCI, followed by Jefferson, Franklin, and Edison. These are men who CHANGED THE COURSE OF MANKIND FOR BETTER. At the bottom of any list is Dubya Bush...and most politicians. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Turner Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Oh and BTW, Greatest Englishman, Tom Paine. Steve.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, fellows...over here we consider Tom Paine an American! Most of the Colonists were English. Paine was a GREAT American! But he was English first. Interesting, though, that you consider an English "traitor" the GREATEST ENGLISHMAN. I agree that his writings (thoughts) had a GREAT influence on history. Wasn't he influenced by Franklin (one of my heroes of history)? Franklin and I share the same birthdate. I consider men of great intellect to be GREATEST. So topping my list is LEONARDO DA VINCI, followed by Jefferson, Franklin, and Edison. These are men who CHANGED THE COURSE OF MANKIND FOR BETTER. At the bottom of any list is Dubya Bush...and most politicians. Jack Jack, only the "Ruling classes" considered him a traitor as he preached liberty & freedom for all.That and the fact that his birth place is only 20 miles from my own, make him a truely great ENGLISHMAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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