What's a TSBD?

[John Dolva]

"mum, whats a tsbd."

"where did you get that from? eat your dinner dear."

"mum, thats what it says here. look...President Kennedy was shot from the tsbd. whats a tsbd?"

"ah..well...I see..um thats the Texas School Book Depository..T..S..B..D.. see?"

"oh OK.."

....

"mum...whats the Texas School Book de..dep...sitry?"

"Depository, dear. It's a building. It's next to where Kennedy was shot"

"yes mum... thats what it says here. but what is it?"

"honey it's a building."

"but.."

"Look, OK. It's a building, all right? ..It's a depository...that's like a place where they put things. They put school books there and it's in Texas. OK. Don't forget your peas.."

"oh...ok..."

....

"mum?... is it just Texas school books. And why do they put them there?"

"er...hmmm...I'dunno I suppose it's just school books...and they put them there to sort them out before sending them out to schools."

...

"mum, do my school books come from the Texas School Books Depository?"

"heh...honey we're not in Texas...what's that got to do with your books..OK. now finish up .... 'nuff babbling..off to school"

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"Hey chip..bet you don't know what the tsbd is!".............

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Well, bugger me, I don't know what the TSBD is either. A search reveals some interesting things....

"a seven-story building leased to the Texas School Book Depository, which shipped schoolbooks in the southwest."

from mcadams site:

"On July 4, 1939, oil tycoon Colonel D. Harold Byrd purchased the building at public auction.

Byrd's career included co-founding the Civil Air Patrol and funding his explorer cousin, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who named an Antarctic mountain range after the Colonel.....

The building remained vacant until 1940, when the John Sexton Co... the grocery wholesaler leased it...

... The building, which displayed the company's name in large letters just above the sixth floor, became familiar locally as the Sexton Building...

After Sexton, renovations at the Depository included partitions, carpeting and air-conditioning for office suites up to the fourth, plus a new passenger elevator that went only as far as the fourth floor. The Texas School Book Depository, (a privately-owned company charged with fulfilling book orders from schools all over the Southwest, incorporated in 1927) kept its stock in the basement, first floor and fourth through seventh floors.

In 1963, the year the company consolidated most of its operation in the former Sexton Building, it employed 33 workers, including 19 warehouse men, of whom four remained at the old warehouse at 1917 N. Houston Street, a few blocks north. ...

After the move, it was noticed that the upper floors had become oil-soaked from items which Sexton had stored, and the oil threatened to penetrate the cardboard of the Depository's book cartons. To remedy (this) a process to cover the upper floors with plywood sheets began, which necessitated moving certain amounts of the cartons over one or two aisles to allow the floor-laying crew access.

Just before the November '63, work had begun along the west side of the sixth floor, leaving the whole scene in disarray, with stock shifted as far as the east wall, and stacks in between piled high. After the assassination, the reflooring project was completed on the sixth floor. The original floor surface.. remained concealed for 25 years until the plywood was lifted to prepare a reconstruction. Floor markings were the same as in photos taken the assassination weekend...

...The building's owner, Colonel Byrd, reportedly had the 'Sniper's Nest' window removed six weeks after the assassination. Byrd exhibited it like a trophy in the banquet room of his Vassar Street mansion until his death in 1986. In 1994, son Caruth loaned the window to the Sixth Floor Museum where it has been displayed behind protective glass ever since. However, there is a controversy that Byrd had the wrong window removed, and that the original 'sniper's nest' windows were removed by one-time owner Aubrey Mayhew... "

OK that's a rough sketch of the building as a schoolbook depository. It's a COMPANY that's called 'The Texas School Book Depository'. This company put its name on the building known as the 'Sexton building'.

Thereafter it became known as the TSBD.

[Pat Speer]

John, to throw more trivia on to the fire, I believe the Colonel Byrd who owned the TSBD was the same man who founded the Civil Air Patrol, wherein Oswald first met David Ferrie. Now ain't that a coinky-dink!

[John Dolva]

John, to throw more trivia on to the fire, I believe the Colonel Byrd who owned the TSBD was the same man who founded the Civil Air Patrol, wherein Oswald first met David Ferrie. Now ain't that a coinky-dink!

Yes, Pat, I mentioned the CAP connection in the post.

However:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So, the Building was owned by Byrd. It was leased to companies, one of which was a company called the TSBD.

Connections between Byrd and the company 'TSBD' beyond this lease arrangement are unknown to me.

It would appear that all photos after 6 weeks after the assassination do not show the original window.

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The company TSBD was/is a major scoolbook distributor in the USA. They have guidelines regarding what constitutes a school book. Often it would seem this is determined by an element of propaganda that has nothing to do with objective reality. Some writers call it 'ahistory'.

In June 1944, a delegation of African-American leaders met with New York City school officials to discuss a central focus of black concern: history textbooks. That delegation reflected a broad spectrum of metropolitan Black opinion: Chaired by the radical city councilman Benjamin J. Davis, it included the publisher of the Amsterdam News—New York's major Black newspaper—as well as the bishop of the African Orthodox Church. In a joint statement, the delegates praised public schools' recent efforts to promote "intercultural education"—and to reduce "prejudice"—via drama, music, and art. Yet if history texts continued to spread lies about the past, Blacks insisted, all of these other programs would come to naught. One book described slaves as "happy"; another applauded the Ku Klux Klan for keeping "foolish Negroes" out of government. "Such passages ... could well have come from the mouths of the fascist enemies of our nation," the Black delegation warned. Even as America fought "Nazi doctrine" overseas, African Americans maintained, the country needed to purge this philosophy from history books at home.1 1

The following year New Yorkers poured into the streets to celebrate victory over Germany and Japan. Yet in the public schools, African Americans complained, children still used the same racist textbooks. Blacks took special aim at White liberals who supported antiprejudice programs but turned a blind eye to prejudiced texts.2 Indeed, school superintendent John E. Wade—himself a strong advocate of "intercultural education"—was the author of a text that extolled the KKK. The problem afflicted every subject in the curriculum, not just history. Music books featured songs calling African Americans "darkeys"; literature anthologies repeatedly referred to them as "coons" or "Sambos"; and geography texts, including one book by Wade's successor as city school chief, William E. Jansen, stressed the barbarity of Africa. "One need not go to the Southland to find that Negroes are ill-treated in textbooks," despaired the New York Age, another Black newspaper. "If gross misconceptions are learned by the children in the schools of New York City ... what can one expect in other sections of the country where many are still 'fighting the Civil War?'"3 2

Over the next two decades, "the Southland" would answer with a single phrase, "Whites Only." Especially after the Supreme Court issued its 1954 challenge to segregation in Brown v. Board of Education, Whites below the Mason-Dixon Line stepped up their efforts to eliminate any mention of African Americans from their own textbooks. In the North, meanwhile, Blacks continued to struggle, with little success, to remove the slurs and outright lies that still marred so-called "integrated" texts. Their efforts would not bear fruit until the early 1960s when African Americans developed a new strategy of protest. Borrowing directly from Brown, they argued that racist textbooks, like segregated classrooms, were "psychologically damaging" to black children. Tempering their older concerns with white bigotry, African Americans used the jargon of social psychology to argue that textbooks injured Black self-concept, Black self-identification, and especially Black self-esteem. Quoting the prominent anthropologist Margaret Mead, Philadelphia Black activist Horace Woodland declared in 1963, "'A people classed as a minority group has a need for a place in history to sustain their belief in their value.'" Until textbooks provided a "positive image" of African Americans, Woodland added, Black children would continue to suffer a "sense of inferiority."

http://www.historycooperative.org/cgi-bin/.../zimmerman.html

In 1993, the National Opinion Research Center (NORC) included the following open-ended question in its General Social Survey of random samples of non-institutionalized Americans aged eighteen years and older:

There have been a lot of national and world events and changes over the past 60 years --- say, from about 1930 right up until today. Would you mention one or two such events.

Sixteen percent of the 1606 respondents either didn't know or couldn't think of any such event. The remainder identified at least four.

The most frequently mentioned incidents included:

the fall of Communism (mentioned by 32% of the respondents),

World War II (by 19%),

the space program (15%),

civil rights (12%),

and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (11%).

Memories of the painful 1930s failed to surface: only 3.8% of the respondents mentioned the Great Depression and but .9% mentioned Franklin D. Roosevelt or his administration.

Less than one out of five respondents mentioned World War II or any of its associated events (e.g., Pearl Harbor or the atomic blasts at Hiroshima and Nagasaki). Such absence of reference to what was the defining event of the past sixty years is not because the war's participants have died out with its memories. As of 1992, there were nearly eight and one-half million American soldiers alive who served at the time (and 65,000 who served during World War I).

And it is not because American society has failed to bring recollections of the war to public attention. Over the past decade American culture has been saturated with its memories, from the fortieth anniversary observances of the landing at Normandy in 1984, to the fiftieth anniversary observances of Pearl Harbor (this author counted no fewer than 14 television shows about the event on December 7, 1991), and stories surrounding the opening of the American Holocaust Museum being cover stories of the nation's major news magazines. With the collapse of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall, the media was filled with hitherto secret memories of complicities and atrocities committed during the conflict. The syndicated Hearst newspapers have featured daily "50 Years Ago Today"; recollections. And between 1991 and 195, the U.S. Post Office issued annual 10-stamp sets with 50-year-old images of the America's involvement in the war.

Across the social landscape, where does this particular collective memory find its most fertile ground? Not surprisingly, there are clear correlations involving age and education. Those 65 years of age and older were three times as likely to mention the Second World War as were those 41 years of age or younger. Among the latter, those with four or more years of college education were three-and-one-half times more likely to mention the war than those with a high school degree or less.

The degree of historical ignorance was considerable. Even at the elitist private university we found: the Russian Revolution occurring in 1970, the first atomic device detonated in 1915, manumission of American slaves occurring as early as 1830 and as late as 1910, the Peoples Republic of China coming into existence in 1790 and 1880 and Israel in 1810, the Napoleonic war preceding the French Revolution and occurring as recently as the 1880s, Darwin writing in the 18th century, and American women receiving the right to vote as early as 1810. The mean rho score of the order of events was .56 with a standard deviation of .316. The mean of the total number of decades individuals were off in their placements of events (with the maximum being capped at 100) was 46.9 with a standard deviation of 25.2 decades.

Among the measures of mindsets supposedly associated with ahistoricity it found that:

one-half of the respondents think that ultimate political power is held by special interest groups such as the military industrial complex;

only one-third believe that the American political system attracts talented individuals;

fifty-eight percent thinking that America's Golden Age has passed;

nearly one-quarter believing that the U.S. suffers when developing nations prosper;

and that four out of ten acknowledging that divisive elements must be located and eliminated or else our nation is in danger of disintegrating.

The degree of historical knowledge possessed produces significant correlations with five of our mindset measures. The greater the degree of historical ignorance the more likely one is to believe that:

America suffers when the Third World Prospers;

divisive elements need to be located and eliminated or our society risks disintegration;

those with power attempt to take advantage of less powerful others;

contrary to what experts say, there are simple solutions to many of the nation's problems.

Historical ignorance was significantly related to the beliefs that America's Golden Years have yet to come and that evil political figures have been working to destroy the morality and freedoms of this country suggest how the absence of historical perspective is bound-up with the authoritarian personality. This brings to mind the social psychological chemistry of the Weimar Republic that spawned National Socialism, how rising expectations were to be dashed and the dynamics of witchhunts and scapegoating were then to be unleashed.

Historical ignorance also significantly correlated with the idea that the elderly have little of relevance to teach the young. In fact, of all of the measures considered, it was this variable that produced the greatest number of significant correlations. For instance, when compared with those who strongly disagreed that the old have little of relevance to teach the young:

those who disagreed somewhat were 44 percent more likely and those who agreed were over twice as likely to believe that there once was an era in American politics when there was relatively no disagreement on major issues;

those who disagreed somewhat were 2.4 times more likely and those who agreed were 2.9 times more likely to agree that the U.S. is weakened with the Third World prospers;

those who disagreed somewhat were 39 percent more likely and those who agreed were 84 percent more likely to believe that America's Golden Years have yet to come;

those who agreed were more than one-third more likely to believe that divisive elements need to be located and eliminated or our society risks disintegration;

those who disagreed somewhat were 26 percent more likely and those who agreed were 86 percent more likely to believe that the American political system attracts as talented individuals as ever for public office.

http://www.trinity.edu/~mkearl/histignr.html

Nor is this subordination of knowledge to civic uplift a relic of the past: in many

states, creationism is taught in place of biology and geology because of the perceived

moral dangers of Darwinism.

And many states continue to require American history to be falsified in order to promote patriotism:

-the Texas Education Code

provides that:

“textbooks should promote democracy, patriotism, and the free enterprise system”; this

provision is still employed to sanitize the teaching of history in Texas.

So, in essence the TSBD was a purveyor of sanitized history throughout a large part of the USA.

[Thomas H. Purvis]

John, to throw more trivia on to the fire, I believe the Colonel Byrd who owned the TSBD was the same man who founded the Civil Air Patrol, wherein Oswald first met David Ferrie. Now ain't that a coinky-dink!

D.H. Byrd was into all aspects of aviation, and there are several photo's of him out on the runways with various dignitaries who have flown in and/or are looking at various aircraft.

Dallas also has some interesting Aviation Museums in it's vicinity as well.

Of course, D. H. Byrd was also the first cousin of Governor/Senator Harry F. Byrd of Virginia, States Right Party candidate for President in 1956.

Because of the "States Right Party" association, Harry F. Byrd came into contact with many of those "Radical Right" elements of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama; etc, of which many were from the New Orleans area.

And some of whom had close associations to the Oswald family.

[John Dolva]

Pat and Tom, this is interesting, however:

...as the buiding was leased to the company called "The Texas School Book Depository" which had warehouses elsewhere as well, what would be more interesting to see is who were the owners of the TSBD (the company, not the building).

(Please refer to post 1 and 3 for some background)

[John Dolva]

"Pat and Tom, this is interesting, however:

...as the buiding was leased to the company called "The Texas School Book Depository" which had warehouses elsewhere as well, what would be more interesting to see is who were the owners of the TSBD (the company, not the building).

(Please refer to post 1 and 3 for some background)"

This is also interesting:

A witness I hadn't heard of before was vice president of the TSBD company. He was standing in front of the TSBD building and heard the shots as coming from elsewhere than the TSBD building.

"FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date 11/24/63

OCHUS V. CAMPBELL, 7120 Twin Lakes Lane, Dallas, Texas, furnished the following information:

He is the Vice President of the Texas School Book Depository Company, with offices located on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dallas.

On November 22, 1963, he was present at his office at the above named building and at about 12:30 PM on that day, he and several other associates were together stationed about 30 feet in front of this building facing away from the building observing the passing motorcade containing President KENNEDY. At this time, he heard a loud report, which at first he considered to be a fire cracker or some object set off by a crank and believed the noise came from away from his building. This illusion, he explained, may have been due to the sound bouncing off the building and other objects in the vicinity. After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile, inasmuch as he feared that the rifle shots were in connection with an attempt upon President KENNEDY's life. He then observed the car bearing President KENNEDY to slow down, a near stop, and a motorcycle policeman rushed up. Immediately following this, he observed the car rush away from the scene. He then immediately rushed into his building without having seen anything unusual from any window of his building. Inside he was told shortly thereafter by the warehouse superintendent, Mr. TRULY, that all the employees of the company had been rounded up and one employee, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, was missing.

Mr. CAMPBELL observed a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, bearing New Orleans, Louisiana No. 112 723, and stated that he is sure this is a photograph of the employee named above, but added that he is not personally aquainted with him and has never seen him. He advised that he has always given Mr. TRULY the responsibility for hiring employees for the warehouse.

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on 11/24/63 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 89-43

By Special Agent EDWARD C. HARDIL & PAUL L. SCOTT Date Dictated 11/24/63"

Edited November 14, 2005 by John Dolva

[Pat Speer]

John, there was a great book called Lies My Teacher Told Me that came out a few years ago. It was one of the books that got me on my history kick. The book details how public school history text books, in order to be acceptable to very conservative school boards, mostly in the southern United States, and specifically Texas, routinely include lies and distortions of history, which are, in turn, un-taught in most college history courses. Unfortunately, those who don't make it to college go through life believing these lies.

There was a movement in the seventies to make school books PC, and there was a major backlash against this in the eigties and nineties. One of the leaders of the effort to return false pride, the flag and apple pie into the history books was none other than Lynn Cheney, VP Dick's wifey.

[Tim Gratz]

Pat, I cannot of course go along with false pride but I love both the flag and apple pie. Somehow I suspect you knew that already.

[Pat Speer]

Pat, I cannot of course go along with false pride but I love both the flag and apple pie. Somehow I suspect you knew that already.

I don't think there's a contradiction between loving your country and admitting it has made mistakes. A lot of the history textbooks appease the south on the civil war and the whole country on Vietnam, by insisting they were noble efforts. As Loewen shows in his book, the Civil War was all about slavery--states rights was a smoke screen--and yet most school books in the south gloss right over the S word. Certainly the North is NEVER given credit for fighting a moral fight; Lincoln is often treated as ambivalent and opportunistic, rather than as the anti-slavery crusader he really was. Loewen's follow-up book, Lies Across America, dealt with the local historical societies, particularly in the south, who erect markers and statues to battles and events and tell outright lies. I noticed one of these plaques in Memphis, by the Mississippi. It told the story of how Nathan Bedford Forest, I believe, liberated the city from evil carpet-baggers after the civil war. What it doesn't say is that he lined up all the blacks he could find and slaughtered them in the streets. Martin Luther King was murdered a few miles from this marker. It's long past the time these lies were removed from public places, the Daughters of the Confederacy be damned!

[Tim Gratz]

Agreed 100%!

[William Kelly]

from mcadams site:

"On July 4, 1939, oil tycoon Colonel D. Harold Byrd purchased the building at public auction.

Byrd's career included co-founding the Civil Air Patrol and funding his explorer cousin, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who named an Antarctic mountain range after the Colonel.....

What McAdams won't tell you:

Admiral Richard E. Byrd's early Antarctic expeditons used primitive radio communications that the US Navy couldn't pick up, but a young ham radio enthusist from Cedar Rapids could on his homemade set - Arthur Collins, whose Collins Radio became the military's main radio supplier during WWII and afterwards with SAC, NASA and AF1. Art Collins was a close friend of Curtis LeMay.

Collins Radio provided cover for the CIA's ship the "Rex" in 1963 and for thed construction of the NRO HQ as recently as 1994.

And JD Tippit's best friend Carl Mather, whose car was seen near the scene of Tippit's murder, was the Collins Radio technician on the VP plane. [see: The Collins Radio Connections - COPA Abstract 1994]

The Byrd Connection can go a long way.

BK

bkjfk3@yahoo.com

[John Dolva]

john : ""from mcadams site:

"On July 4, 1939, oil tycoon Colonel D. Harold Byrd purchased the building at public auction.

Byrd's career included co-founding the Civil Air Patrol and funding his explorer cousin, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who named an Antarctic mountain range after the Colonel..... ""

William :: ""What McAdams won't tell you:

Admiral Richard E. Byrd's early Antarctic expeditons used primitive radio communications that the US Navy couldn't pick up, but a young ham radio enthusist from Cedar Rapids could on his homemade set - Arthur Collins, whose Collins Radio became the military's main radio supplier during WWII and afterwards with SAC, NASA and AF1. Art Collins was a close friend of Curtis LeMay.

Collins Radio provided cover for the CIA's ship the "Rex" in 1963 and for thed construction of the NRO HQ as recently as 1994.

And JD Tippit's best friend Carl Mather, whose car was seen near the scene of Tippit's murder, was the Collins Radio technician on the VP plane. [see: The Collins Radio Connections - COPA Abstract 1994]

The Byrd Connection can go a long way.

BK

bkjfk3@yahoo.com""

William, Gerry, would this tie in with this earlier "minesport' post 20 "Oliver Stone's JFK"?:

Gerry : "There is a general igorance as to the function of the "Nuclear Suitcase", commonly referred to as "The Football". [i had a member inquire as to more on same, but AOL screwed me up and I lost a Gig of e-mails] The "Football" is a transmit ONLY cipher device, but can be queried by transponder from either the flying command post styled as "Looking Glass", or other relay vehicle. During the JFK era, "Looking Glass" was an RC-707, same fuselage as "Air Force One" [tail #25000] but cram packed with ELINT/ECM & communications relay equipment. Later, an AWACS type aircraft was used [one with the dorsal rotating radar antenna], and thus it was not only a signals relay vehicle, but had the ability to observe and track all aircraft [and vehicles] in the vicinity of either the president on the ground, or when airborne.

"Looking Glass" can transmit its discrete frequency messages via both "line-of-sight" (VHF/UHF) and low frequency (HF/SSB) to predetermined radio relay sites, which then pass same to the command authority.

Therefore, the president exercises NO direct control over any launch components, he just has the capability to use a communication link which in turned is relayed to SAC/NORAD/NCA.

The "Football" contains a transponder which alerts "Looking Glass" as to whether the cipher device is up and running, or has failed and gone off of the air. I was told that NSA refused to release the "Looking Glass" tapes generated on November 22nd, 1963. Some retired NSA CTs "speculated" that:

(1) There were numerous spurious radio transmissions recorded that day, and they were disguised as

air traffic control verbage; [we used similar background radio traffic in the JFK movie, and Dale Dye was the voice responding to my transmissions]

(2) The transponder inside the football sent a "red-alert" to Looking Glass, indication power supply or tranmitter failure moments before the motorcade entered Dealey Plaza; and,

(3) The term "Minesport" [which is similar sounding, but incorrect for that era] referred to a backup football which was ordered sent by the Looking Glass CT commander at approx. 1627 hours G.M.T."

[Lee Forman]

So, the Building was owned by Byrd. It was leased to companies, one of which was a company called the TSBD.

Connections between Byrd and the company 'TSBD' beyond this lease arrangement are unknown to me.

It would appear that all photos after 6 weeks after the assassination do not show the original window.

John,

Byrd allegedly had the 6th floor west window removed - is that what you mean by 'original window?'

There's some controversy over this topic today.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ4.htm

- lee

[Gerry Hemming]

john : ""from mcadams site:

"On July 4, 1939, oil tycoon Colonel D. Harold Byrd purchased the building at public auction.

Byrd's career included co-founding the Civil Air Patrol and funding his explorer cousin, Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who named an Antarctic mountain range after the Colonel..... ""

William :: ""What McAdams won't tell you:

Admiral Richard E. Byrd's early Antarctic expeditons used primitive radio communications that the US Navy couldn't pick up, but a young ham radio enthusist from Cedar Rapids could on his homemade set - Arthur Collins, whose Collins Radio became the military's main radio supplier during WWII and afterwards with SAC, NASA and AF1. Art Collins was a close friend of Curtis LeMay.

Collins Radio provided cover for the CIA's ship the "Rex" in 1963 and for thed construction of the NRO HQ as recently as 1994.

And JD Tippit's best friend Carl Mather, whose car was seen near the scene of Tippit's murder, was the Collins Radio technician on the VP plane. [see: The Collins Radio Connections - COPA Abstract 1994]

The Byrd Connection can go a long way.

BK

bkjfk3@yahoo.com""

William, Gerry, would this tie in with this earlier "minesport' post 20 "Oliver Stone's JFK"?:

Gerry : "There is a general igorance as to the function of the "Nuclear Suitcase", commonly referred to as "The Football". [i had a member inquire as to more on same, but AOL screwed me up and I lost a Gig of e-mails] The "Football" is a transmit ONLY cipher device, but can be queried by transponder from either the flying command post styled as "Looking Glass", or other relay vehicle. During the JFK era, "Looking Glass" was an RC-707, same fuselage as "Air Force One" [tail #25000] but cram packed with ELINT/ECM & communications relay equipment. Later, an AWACS type aircraft was used [one with the dorsal rotating radar antenna], and thus it was not only a signals relay vehicle, but had the ability to observe and track all aircraft [and vehicles] in the vicinity of either the president on the ground, or when airborne.

"Looking Glass" can transmit its discrete frequency messages via both "line-of-sight" (VHF/UHF) and low frequency (HF/SSB) to predetermined radio relay sites, which then pass same to the command authority.

Therefore, the president exercises NO direct control over any launch components, he just has the capability to use a communication link which in turned is relayed to SAC/NORAD/NCA.

The "Football" contains a transponder which alerts "Looking Glass" as to whether the cipher device is up and running, or has failed and gone off of the air. I was told that NSA refused to release the "Looking Glass" tapes generated on November 22nd, 1963. Some retired NSA CTs "speculated" that:

(1) There were numerous spurious radio transmissions recorded that day, and they were disguised as

air traffic control verbage; [we used similar background radio traffic in the JFK movie, and Dale Dye was the voice responding to my transmissions]

(2) The transponder inside the football sent a "red-alert" to Looking Glass, indication power supply or tranmitter failure moments before the motorcade entered Dealey Plaza; and,

(3) The term "Minesport" [which is similar sounding, but incorrect for that era] referred to a backup football which was ordered sent by the Looking Glass CT commander at approx. 1627 hours G.M.T."

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During the mission to kidnap "Che" [1966] and other anciallary Ops -- our "construction company" cover on Ascension Island [brit possession with a U.S. Air Force Base there since WWII]; was supplied by (Mike) "Bradford International". "Brad/Int'l" was a creation of the senior Kendalls, close friends of Nixon, and Mike was just fronting for the operation. A kendall youth was dispatched to the island ["Summer Vacation"] so that he might get an adventerous look at how real "Operators" do their "Thingies" !!

Young Steve Kendall was immediately put to work as an "Ironworker Apprentice", but when this seemed to exhaust him and several of his school-chums; we put him to work on the cement tower. After that he "volunteered" [with his chums] to off-load a cement ship in from Luanda, Angola -- bit of nasty work that, if I do say so myself !!

The cover for the crypto/comm "spooks" was both Collins & Bendix Radio Systems.

The cover for the Navy SEALS was the USN CB unit ["Sea Bees"].

The cover for the MI-6 and S.A.S. folks was B.B.C. -- who later brought in a horde of large black "Barbations" [from Barbados]. "....Got to build a new BBC radio tower..old boy !!" Funny how they marched in military formation on their way to work ??!!

Because the C-130s were stretched thin [both out of Patrick AFB and Eglin AFB, more reliance was placed on Pan Am and the USAF C-124s (and both failed).

I got on a "secure" commo-link and called Davy in Miami [H.K. Davis] who was then a commercial pilot for

an MIA based passenger/cargo airline. I instructed him to go to the president of said airline [a friend of ours] and tell him to put in an immediate "Challenge" bid against Pan Am for the Ascension Island, Recife, Brazil, etc. contract -- as they had failed to comply with the missions.

4 days later, I got a call from Davy and confirming that: "...WE gots da contract...what else..??!! "..Hey this is BIG buck$...!!"

I said: "....If you can't do the flights yourself....then make damn sure that two things are accomplished..!!"

"....This ain't a secure line Gerry..." "...Nothing secure about these two things.." "...Make damn sure that

extra 'stews' are on all flights [stewardesses]...and send down about 100 gallons of fresh milk...this Limey 'tinned milk' is killing us..!!"

"..What's with the 'stews'..?" "...NOT me dummy..I'm married [for the family lurking on this Forum]...but the only females here are about 35 ugly as hell Brit-broads who hang-out at their 'Exile-Club' in Georgetown...and we have been banned from the club for brutishly leering and looking up their skirts...!!"

"...How about the local women..?" "..Davy..they are called 'Saint Women' because there are imported from St. Helena Island...you know..where that Fidel-like frog Napoleon croaked his last croak..and we have also been banned from the 'Saint's Club' for brutishly teaching them un-saintly habits...!"

"..Gotcha..Wilco...Out!!

Later, when I am more stupid, I will speak of what happened when the first load of MILK and stews arrived on "the Rock"!!

Chairs,

GPH (Remember family !! This might well be somebody impersonating "Patrick"]

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[John Dolva]

Lee, since I wrote that I came across an article (in a Dallas magazine I think, about said controversy. By that account the windows did a bit of musical chairs. Byrd took west, Mayhew took east, and replaced with a rear window. Controversy not settled I understand. So the real window might have been in place a few years more. I have the photos from assassination showing 'sniper nest from outside. But nothing equally clear of the west window. Anyone?

Gerry, the main thing (apart from the usual enjoyable read I get is that 'Collins' is not a secure system hence not used for such things as launch protocols. Possibly for 'lesser' coded messages.

Anyway, I've been scouring the net to the best of my ability from here to find any info on who owned "The Texas School Book Depository Company"(a privately-owned company charged with fulfilling book orders from schools all over the Southwest, incorporated in 1927).

-All I have is that they left the building in 1970 soon after Byrd sold it.

-The vice president OCHUS V. CAMPBELL witnessed the assassination and was interviewed by the FBI.

-They had a warehouse a few blocks away.

Otherwise, unlike other companies, there seems to be little info available on the net.

"Pat and Tom, this is interesting, however:

...as the buiding was leased to the company called "The Texas School Book Depository" which had warehouses elsewhere as well, what would be more interesting to see is who were the owners of the TSBD (the company, not the building).

(Please refer to post 1 and 3 for some background)"

This is also interesting:

A witness I hadn't heard of before was vice president of the TSBD company. He was standing in front of the TSBD building and heard the shots as coming from elsewhere than the TSBD building.

"FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date 11/24/63

OCHUS V. CAMPBELL, 7120 Twin Lakes Lane, Dallas, Texas, furnished the following information:

He is the Vice President of the Texas School Book Depository Company, with offices located on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building in Dallas.

On November 22, 1963, he was present at his office at the above named building and at about 12:30 PM on that day, he and several other associates were together stationed about 30 feet in front of this building facing away from the building observing the passing motorcade containing President KENNEDY. At this time, he heard a loud report, which at first he considered to be a fire cracker or some object set off by a crank and believed the noise came from away from his building. This illusion, he explained, may have been due to the sound bouncing off the building and other objects in the vicinity. After hearing two more such reports, he realized they must have been rifle shots and since President KENNEDY's car had advanced just out of his vision, he went forward a few feet to observe this automobile, inasmuch as he feared that the rifle shots were in connection with an attempt upon President KENNEDY's life. He then observed the car bearing President KENNEDY to slow down, a near stop, and a motorcycle policeman rushed up. Immediately following this, he observed the car rush away from the scene. He then immediately rushed into his building without having seen anything unusual from any window of his building. Inside he was told shortly thereafter by the warehouse superintendent, Mr. TRULY, that all the employees of the company had been rounded up and one employee, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, was missing.

Mr. CAMPBELL observed a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, bearing New Orleans, Louisiana No. 112 723, and stated that he is sure this is a photograph of the employee named above, but added that he is not personally aquainted with him and has never seen him. He advised that he has always given Mr. TRULY the responsibility for hiring employees for the warehouse.

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on 11/24/63 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 89-43

By Special Agent EDWARD C. HARDIL & PAUL L. SCOTT Date Dictated 11/24/63"

Edited November 15, 2005 by John Dolva