Declassified CIA and FBI documents

[William Plumlee]

For your information:

http://www.toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

These are PDF files and take awhile to download on dial up.

Pages 11-14 I think are interesting.

The #62-2116 files are from the Rosellie/Plumlee FBI files of 1976. In view of recently declassified CIA and FBI files I think these should be of interest to investigators.

note: the John ArthurPaisley pages did not go to the HSCA in 1979, because they were classified top secret by CIA committee. A few pages were declassified in 1996. However, over two hundred pages of the #62-2116 Rosellie file are still classified. Three hundred and five pages DEA Iran-Contra are still classified and sch for declassifing in 2008 (I was told)

Edited December 4, 2005 by William Plumlee

[Shanet Clark]

For your information:

http://www.toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

These are PDF files and take awhile to download on dial up.

Pages 11-14 I think are interesting.

The #62-2116 files are from the Rosellie/Plumlee FBI files of 1976. In view of recently declassified CIA and FBI files I think these should be of interest to investigators.

note: the John ArthurPaisley pages did not go to the HSCA in 1979, because they were classified top secret by CIA committee. A few pages were declassified in 1996. However, over two hundred pages of the #62-2116 Rosellie file are still classified. Three hundred and five pages DEA Iran-Contra are still classified and sch for declassifing in 2008 (I was told)

Welcome back sir, I was just mentioning Mr. Paisley the other day, on Sydney Blumenthal's

thread about Bob Woodward.......

Best Wishes, I will review this new version of your file and urge the members to read

everything in your public record, The PHOENIX ARIZONA FBI files and the KERRY HEARINGS especially..

Your friend and supporter-

Shanet in Atlanta

[Gerry Hemming]

For your information:

http://www.toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

These are PDF files and take awhile to download on dial up.

Pages 11-14 I think are interesting.

The #62-2116 files are from the Rosellie/Plumlee FBI files of 1976. In view of recently declassified CIA and FBI files I think these should be of interest to investigators.

note: the John ArthurPaisley pages did not go to the HSCA in 1979, because they were classified top secret by CIA committee. A few pages were declassified in 1996. However, over two hundred pages of the #62-2116 Rosellie file are still classified. Three hundred and five pages DEA Iran-Contra are still classified and sch for declassifing in 2008 (I was told)

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The D.E.A documents (DEA Form-6 -R.O.I. "Report of Imvestigation") are obviously those released to an attorney(s) representing a "Federal Felony Defendant". These documents are usually released to the "Cleared" Defense Attorney(s) ONLY !! That is: Unless the accused has exercised his right to "self-representation" (in propria persona / pro se) under the doctrine of the Faretta vs. California "Doctrine" [sCOTUS - 1975]. Then, and only then, would the defendant him/herself be allowed to peruse said "Exhibits"!!

This type of "Government Exibit" was only released to attorney(s) as a result of their having filed a "Jencks Act" and/or a "Brady Material" (U.S. vs. Brady - SCOTUS) "Motion for Discovery". Moreover, said motions must have been made long before the trial date. Today, these motions are included in a "Discovery Motion in ad liminum" (a "Threshold Motion").

Prior to the decision in U.S. vs. James (5th Circuit - 1977) the government was permitted to retain all "Jencks Material" until the particular "Gummint" witness took the stand -- and thus leaving defense counsel with the choice of either reading the documents -- or listening to the witness's testimony and taking the appropriate notes for "Cross" & "Rebuttal" [These witnesses were usually DEA/FBI/BATF/etc. agents].

This very effective government ploy/tactic won quite a few cases, and especially where it was used in wide-ranging "conspiracy cases"!! However, where it worked very successfuly under the prior "Apollo Decision"; everything was drastically changed under the "James" holdings.

Take notice of the "water-mark" style "page numbers" on this ROI, as it indicates that it was included with those released had to a defense counsel -- and said counsel was required to reurn them "in toto" after the final appellate court ruling (if an appeal was "moved for").

The page numbers were included on all DEA Form-6s after 1979, and this was because some schemers were selling copies to the Drug Cartels. This was done as ascheme to make "big buck$, and in order to identify "snitches". Said schemers would be heard making claims that said files had been purchased from "their very own" corrupted DEA agents !! [or clerks with contemporaneous access to the DEA's version of the FBI N.C.I.C. computer data base. The DEA styles its data base as N.A.D.D.I.S.].

Embedded in the "paginated" R.O.I.s are [method remains classified] "signature flags" which will trace every page back to the attorney(s) who had them in their possession, and moreover; indicates whether the counselors have made any "prohibited" (see: DEA "Rules/Policies" with effect as law] "Xerox" copies of any of the pages.

I am at a loss as to exactly what these pages purport to "verify" -- that is, unless this is an advance "taste" (for our beaks) of further "Enlargements" yet to come (Forth??).

My file boxes here in Fayetteville are crammed with 8,000+ documents (not file pages), and quite a large portion contain "halucinatory" CIA/FBIONI/State/DOD, etc. (Both "Agent" & "Snitch" reports). These files have me "leaping tall buildings" -- and doing things that wouldn't even be written into a James "Bum" Bond film.

WHY ??!! because they all are totally outrageous !! Yet these "scribblers" indeed did report same to their agency bosses, and their bosses firmly "believed" all of that bullxxxx !!

However, and NOT even on a dare/joke would I submit any of these "Hero SOF/Secret Agent BS" files to this Forum -- and specifically NOT as a device intent upon "squelching" specific agent provocateurs and/or TROLLS !!

One "Wag" recently joined with some of my associates, in stating that: "...Patrick...these clowns are doing a Weberman on you...they are collecting your postings/e-mails, etc., so they can come out with some tabloid article....or even a book..which will without a doubt carry some title signifying....'How I Crossed Swords With Patrick'...the 'primo' suspect in the JFK assassination..."!!

Keep on "Trucking" ol' buddy !!

Chairs,

GPH

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[Dawn Meredith]

Impersonating an attorney again are we Gerry?

Dawn

ps Tosh!! Great to see you back. We've missed you.

[William Plumlee]

For your information:

http://www.toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

These are PDF files and take awhile to download on dial up.

Pages 11-14 I think are interesting.

The #62-2116 files are from the Rosellie/Plumlee FBI files of 1976. In view of recently declassified CIA and FBI files I think these should be of interest to investigators.

note: the John ArthurPaisley pages did not go to the HSCA in 1979, because they were classified top secret by CIA committee. A few pages were declassified in 1996. However, over two hundred pages of the #62-2116 Rosellie file are still classified. Three hundred and five pages DEA Iran-Contra are still classified and sch for declassifing in 2008 (I was told)

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The D.E.A documents (DEA Form-6 -R.O.I. "Report of Imvestigation") are obviously those released to an attorney(s) representing a "Federal Felony Defendant". These documents are usually released to the "Cleared" Defense Attorney(s) ONLY !! That is: Unless the accused has exercised his right to "self-representation" (in propria persona / pro se) under the doctrine of the Faretta vs. California "Doctrine" [sCOTUS - 1975]. Then, and only then, would the defendant him/herself be allowed to peruse said "Exhibits"!!

This type of "Government Exibit" was only released to attorney(s) as a result of their having filed a "Jencks Act" and/or a "Brady Material" (U.S. vs. Brady - SCOTUS) "Motion for Discovery". Moreover, said motions must have been made long before the trial date. Today, these motions are included in a "Discovery Motion in ad liminum" (a "Threshold Motion").

Prior to the decision in U.S. vs. James (5th Circuit - 1977) the government was permitted to retain all "Jencks Material" until the particular "Gummint" witness took the stand -- and thus leaving defense counsel with the choice of either reading the documents -- or listening to the witness's testimony and taking the appropriate notes for "Cross" & "Rebuttal" [These witnesses were usually DEA/FBI/BATF/etc. agents].

This very effective government ploy/tactic won quite a few cases, and especially where it was used in wide-ranging "conspiracy cases"!! However, where it worked very successfuly under the prior "Apollo Decision"; everything was drastically changed under the "James" holdings.

Take notice of the "water-mark" style "page numbers" on this ROI, as it indicates that it was included with those released had to a defense counsel -- and said counsel was required to reurn them "in toto" after the final appellate court ruling (if an appeal was "moved for").

The page numbers were included on all DEA Form-6s after 1979, and this was because some schemers were selling copies to the Drug Cartels. This was done as ascheme to make "big buck$, and in order to identify "snitches". Said schemers would be heard making claims that said files had been purchased from "their very own" corrupted DEA agents !! [or clerks with contemporaneous access to the DEA's version of the FBI N.C.I.C. computer data base. The DEA styles its data base as N.A.D.D.I.S.].

Embedded in the "paginated" R.O.I.s are [method remains classified] "signature flags" which will trace every page back to the attorney(s) who had them in their possession, and moreover; indicates whether the counselors have made any "prohibited" (see: DEA "Rules/Policies" with effect as law] "Xerox" copies of any of the pages.

I am at a loss as to exactly what these pages purport to "verify" -- that is, unless this is an advance "taste" (for our beaks) of further "Enlargements" yet to come (Forth??).

My file boxes here in Fayetteville are crammed with 8,000+ documents (not file pages), and quite a large portion contain "halucinatory" CIA/FBIONI/State/DOD, etc. (Both "Agent" & "Snitch" reports). These files have me "leaping tall buildings" -- and doing things that wouldn't even be written into a James "Bum" Bond film.

WHY ??!! because they all are totally outrageous !! Yet these "scribblers" indeed did report same to their agency bosses, and their bosses firmly "believed" all of that bullxxxx !!

However, and NOT even on a dare/joke would I submit any of these "Hero SOF/Secret Agent BS" files to this Forum -- and specifically NOT as a device intent upon "squelching" specific agent provocateurs and/or TROLLS !!

One "Wag" recently joined with some of my associates, in stating that: "...Patrick...these clowns are doing a Weberman on you...they are collecting your postings/e-mails, etc., so they can come out with some tabloid article....or even a book..which will without a doubt carry some title signifying....'How I Crossed Swords With Patrick'...the 'primo' suspect in the JFK assassination..."!!

Keep on "Trucking" ol' buddy !!

Chairs,

GPH

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[William Plumlee]

Mr. Hemming. Go suck wind somewhere else. I know what you are and you know that I know. You were a "Wanta Bee, back then and your even less today. Your full of it and only quote dead people and produce nothing of value to the cause. I've known you for years and watched you add height to your BS stories of grander. I was around with others and you sir, never knew we were around. You and your wanta bees did more damage to the Cuban cause than will ever be known. You used wealthy unsuspecting Cubans to raise money for your cause and fed them BS adventures for their money and time

I will not respond to you or your BS. You caused us a lot of pain in the days of old. ., even got some of my boys killed.. for that I will never forgive you. Would you like me to release the CIA application you summitted years ago and the profile on you from them as well? Why don',t you do that. I'm sure many would be interested That would be your first document... how about your Marine records... care to share?

I suppose you will soon tell us you set up "Able_ Danger". Get out of my ball park you low life piss ant.

Edited December 5, 2005 by William Plumlee

[Gerry Hemming]

Mr. Hemming. Go suck wind somewhere else. I know what you are and you know that I know. You were a "Wanta Bee, back then and your even less today. Your full of it and only quote dead people and produce nothing of value to the cause. I've known you for years and watched you add height to your BS stories of grander. I was around with others and you sir, never knew we were around. You and your wanta bees did more damage to the Cuban cause than will ever be known. You used wealthy unsuspecting Cubans to raise money for your cause and fed them BS adventures for their money and time

I will not respond to you or your BS. You caused us a lot of pain in the days of old. ., even got some of my boys killed.. for that I will never forgive you. Would you like me to release the CIA application you summitted years ago and the profile on you from them as well? Why don',t you do that. I'm sure many would be interested That would be your first document... how about your Marine records... care to share?

I suppose you will soon tell us you set up "Able_ Danger". Get out of my ball park you low life piss ant.

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MY, MY !! "TOOSHY" THE FBI/DEA/JMWAVE "SNITCH" HAS RETURNED.

Exactly how did I "..Get some of (Your)..boys killed...??" -- especially when you NEVER HAD ANY BOYS, that is unless you worked with Michael Jackson or N.A.M.B.L.A. ??!!

YOU, like Ed Arthur, and an endless number of snitches [most of whom still fail to realize that they (like you) were "False Flag" recruited by Castro's DGI/DSE agents] continue to "wannabe-ever-onward" to some of the most gullible folks around -- and especially to some of our favorite "Groupie Adoring Females !!

My "CIA Form-444" has been on the Internet ever since Khazar Weberman started his "NODU-Rhoids" back during the 1990s !! So, BIG F..king Deal !! And my USMC Records: Well, unfortunately the N.A.R.A. and Langley guys still refuse to release same. But, they just might give you a "Snitch-Badge up at Langley [and an escort"] -- and they just might show you the front cover of my USMC S.R.B. ??!!

And just what do the "Girls of theCIA have to say about "Moi" ??!! PLEASE post whatever your juvenile pointy-little-fingers can lay yer hands upon !! You've got my OK. And please don't give us the phony microsoft desktop publishing or Xerox fabrications once again.

Iwould suggest everone visit the current "South Africa Special Service" website for the best description of a "phoney operator" description yet !! "..My operations were secret..my testimony is classified..I was a black operator..."!! AD NAUSEUM !! Check out the SEAL website for more chuckles on phony wannabes like yourself.

And what brought you back, got another boyfriend to scam out of some drinks or buck$ ??!! Or are you now a senior citizen snitching for "Shrub W's Clowns" NOW ??!!

If you can remember, or get hints from a real C-47/DC-3 "Driver": Answer the following question; You are taxi-ing down the taxiway, and you receive tower instructions [ground control] to "taxi into postion and hold" -- this requires a right turn onto the runway and a left turn onto "the Numbers" -- Give me the few moves the right-seat guy has to do with his left & right hands -- that is if you were ever in a right seat ??!!

Illigitimati NonCarborundum,

GPH

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