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I think Jack is referring to our questioning of King’s non-existent credentials. This is familiar tactic promote the views of someone who back your argument due to their supposed expertise and then when it is shown they aren’t really experts they resort to the ‘argue the facts not the man’ card. That of course has already been done on the previous thread. Duane (IIRC) used a similar tactic on an Apollo thread post the claims of some guy who supposedly had a PHD (IIRC) in physics or astronomy after it was pointed his supposed degrees were probably bogus.

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I think Jack is referring to our questioning of King's non-existent credentials. This is familiar tactic promote the views of someone who back your argument due to their supposed expertise and then when it is shown they aren't really experts they resort to the 'argue the facts not the man' card. That of course has already been done on the previous thread. Duane (IIRC) used a similar tactic on an Apollo thread post the claims of some guy who supposedly had a PHD (IIRC) in physics or astronomy after it was pointed his supposed degrees were probably bogus.

...and just what exactly are YOUR credentials on any matters you expound upon? Also, interesting you chose to bring up Duane [who you, Lamson and Burton [iMO]] conspired to do a 'job' upon and get him forced out of the Forum in frustration (unable to speak or post without permanent moderation)....he just sent me all the information I need to prove he was done in against all the rules and any sense of decency.....I'll post it when the time is ripe.

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I'm speaking just fine on moderation, so what was Duane's problem again???

He left of his own free will and it you have evidence that shows otherwise just post it....

Duane's biggest problem was his ignorance of the subject matter he was attempting to argue. He did himself in.

BTW, if Duane wants his info posted here, have him do it himself. He has no valid reason NOT to do it himself.

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Also, interesting you chose to bring up Duane [who you, Lamson and Burton [iMO]] conspired to do a 'job' upon and get him forced out of the Forum in frustration (unable to speak or post without permanent moderation)....he just sent me all the information I need to prove he was done in against all the rules and any sense of decency.....I'll post it when the time is ripe.

Please do. This has been discussed ad nauseum and where both John and Andy made the situation quite clear. People have made bogus claims in the past and I would not put it past him to also do it.

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First, look at the first image Jack supplied (Jack has cropped it, possibly for reasons of viewer discretion). The full image is available here:

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/...ion/P200316.jpg

A collection of images of the WTC complex.

http://manhattan.about.com/od/september11t...-2001/index.htm

http://trile.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/worl...d-trade-center/

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/old_w...rade_plaza2.jpg

http://www.september11news.com/WTCPlazaFountain.jpg

Please - anyone else but Jack and indeed everyone else - please post if you think that WTC6 was (pre-attack) greyish (or similar, whatever Jack claims) or if it was black (or blackish, as I and others claim).

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First, look at the first image Jack supplied (Jack has cropped it, possibly for reasons of viewer discretion). The full image is available here:

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/...ion/P200316.jpg

A collection of images of the WTC complex.

http://manhattan.about.com/od/september11t...-2001/index.htm

http://trile.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/worl...d-trade-center/

http://robertdfeinman.com/wtc/images/old_w...rade_plaza2.jpg

http://www.september11news.com/WTCPlazaFountain.jpg

Please - anyone else but Jack and indeed everyone else - please post if you think that WTC6 was (pre-attack) greyish (or similar, whatever Jack claims) or if it was black (or blackish, as I and others claim).

Looks black to me.

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Looks black to the majority of people, Matt.

I'm wondering if I could contact some people who used to work in the WTC and have them tell us all what colour the building was.

Probably, but I'll bet Jack would think they're all in on it.

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Looks black to the majority of people, Matt.

I'm wondering if I could contact some people who used to work in the WTC and have them tell us all what colour the building was.

Probably, but I'll bet Jack would think they're all in on it.

And since they were all federal or PANYNJ employees, it was the Customs House, he has a built in reason to dismiss what they say. But of course anyone who disagrees with Jack is "in on it" and/or crazy.

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The exterior of Building Six suffered smoke damage on most of the outside

from the explosion and fire. But parts of the outside remained the original

gray color. Those who think the building was BLACK "are either in on it or crazy".

This is not a adhom on Burton or Colby...just repeating their words.

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True to form you have not listed where the photo was obtained, where it was taken or when. Likely you think none of those matter. Forgive me if I don't agree.

However, I would bet that you could get a few reasonable answers and reject them out of hand simply because they don't agree with the predefined conclusions you've already made. So why don't you skip the games and just tell us what you THINK happened?

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The photo is a frame grab from one of thousands of 911 videos on the internet.

It clearly is NOT at the WTC, but no location was given. No debris is seen...just

the effect of some powerful force.

What YOU or your employers think does not matter.

Jack

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The photo is a frame grab from one of thousands of 911 videos on the internet.

It clearly is NOT at the WTC, but no location was given. No debris is seen...just

the effect of some powerful force.

What YOU or your employers think does not matter.

Jack

Accusation of paid posting noted and reported. General nasty attitude also noted. Any proof I'm paid to post here?

What video? If no location is given how do you KNOW it is even in New York? Forgive me if I won't just take your word for it.

Do you enjoy playing games Jack? That's what you seem to be doing by avoiding the question I asked. So AGAIN, why don't you skip the games and just tell us what you THINK happened? You see, I really don't know what caused it. I'm just interested in you ACTUALLY GETTING TO THE POINT and telling us what YOU think since it is your pic and post after all.

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