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Mr. Caddy, in the letters you submitted to Justice it appears that Estes was willing to offer Kyle Brown as a first hand witness to Cliff Carter's remarks about Johnson.

William Remond has a video of Brown confirming this. Unfortunately Brown does not seem to be talking to other researchers.

In his most recent book Estes goes back on this and says the witness was not Brown but someone he will not name. This seems to seriously hurt his original stand.

I was wondering if you had any thoughts on that point?

I have not seen Billie Sol's recent book. I shall order one promptly. I do not know why he is now stating that Kyle Brown was not a first hand witness to Cliff Carter's remarks about LBJ. I have not seen or talked to Billie Sol since the latter part of 1984.

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Thank your for your responses Mr. Caddy.

Do you think that the car accident sustained by former Tx. Ranger Clint Peoples was murder?

Do you have an opinion as to who killed JFK?

Was Justice Dept attorney Steven Trott truly interested in finding out, in your opinion?

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What is your opinion of William F. Buckley?

William F. Buckley is, of course, the person most responsible for legitimizing the modern conservative movement. I think he must be in some pain these days as it has not turned out as he had planned. In that sense he is a captive of his significant role in history, as it would almost be impossible for him to denounce the movement that he brought into existence even though it has taken on the trappings of a police state mentality with worldwide ambitions.

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Thank your for your responses Mr. Caddy.

Do you think that the car accident sustained by former Tx. Ranger Clint Peoples was murder?

Do you have an opinion as to who killed JFK?

Was Justice Dept attorney Steven Trott truly interested in finding out, in your opinion?

I find the automobile accident that killed Clint Peoples to be highly suspicious. It is my understanding that he had been scheduled two days after the date of the accident to interview Billie Sol on video in great detail about all the murders. Peoples, from his days as a Texas Ranger, had a unmatched grasp of the facts in all the murders.

Stephen Poguese (spelling?) whose illuminating interview with Billie Sol appears on the video produced by Lyle and Theresa Sardie died suddenly of a heart attack soon after the interview. He was in his '40s.

Mac Wallace also died in an automobile accident of suspicious nature. Several of the murder victims listed by Billie Sol in my letter to Assistant Attorney General Stephen Trott were killed from carbon monoxide poisoning. Henry Marshal was killed beside his vehicle and also had carbon monoxide in his blood.

I think Mac Wallace played a key role in the killing of John Kennedy and that he had a relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald.

Stephen Trott was intensely interested to doing what was necessary to facilitate in getting Billie Sol to reveal what he knew. The onus is on Billie Sol for letting that unique opportunity pass by at the time.

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I find the automobile accident that killed Clint Peoples to be highly suspicious. It is my understanding that he had been scheduled two days after the date of the accident to interview Billie Sol on video in great detail about all the murders. Peoples, from his days as a Texas Ranger, had a unmatched grasp of the facts in all the murders.

Stephen Poguese (spelling?) whose illuminating interview with Billie Sol appears on the video produced by Lyle and Theresa Sardie died suddenly of a heart attack soon after the interview. He was in his '40s.

Mac Wallace also died in an automobile accident of suspicious nature. Several of the murder victims listed by Billie Sol in my letter to Assistant Attorney General Stephen Trott were killed from carbon monoxide poisoning. Henry Marshal was killed beside his vehicle and also had carbon monoxide in his blood.

I think Mac Wallace played a key role in the killing of John Kennedy and that he had a relationship with Lee Harvey Oswald.

Stephen Trott was intensely interested to doing what was necessary to facilitate in getting Billie Sol to reveal what he knew. The onus is on Billie Sol for letting that unique opportunity pass by at the time.

It's undoubedly intriguing that one of Bobby Baker's partners, Alfred Novak, also died by carbon monoxide poisoning. He was supposedly despondent over financial difficulties. Has anyone ever attempted to connect his death to those back in Texas?

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Supplemental information to my prior responses regarding my being linked to the CIA:

(1) One relevant incident occurred while I was working out of the Mullen Company office in my capacity as an employee of General Foods Corporation, which was a client of Mullen.

One day Robert Mullen's secretary told me that he was on the phone and wanted to talk to me. When I talked to him he told me that he was in Chile. (I knew that he had been out of the office for a few days but not where he was). He said that he was in Chile doing public relations and media work in fomenting opposition to President Allende. Of course, we all know now that Allende was later killed. Apparently, America likes to see Democracy flourish in a foreign country only so long as it controls who is in charge of that country's destiny.

I do not know why Mullen chose to tell me this other than to impress me. It certainly piqued my interest at the time but not enough for me to make the mental leap that the Mullen Company was actually a CIA front.

(2) While it is true that I have never worked for the CIA or any intelligence agency, I need to add that I was approached at one time to work for the CIA. This event occurred about three months before Watergate broke open in June 1972. Howard Hunt asked me to join him and a Mr. Huston (I think the name was Larry Huston), who was general counsel for the CIA. Hunt drove me to a restaurant/bar not far from the CIA headquarters where we met Huston.

The purpose of the meeting was to ascertain whether I would be interested in working for the CIA. If I were interested, the CIA wanted me to oversee the building of a luxurious hotel on the coast of Nicaragua. After it was constructed, I would be in charge of the building, which apparently would be used to lure the country's socialist politicians there to get to know more about them.

I told Hunt and Huston that I would think about it but never pursued it any further. Of course, when the Watergate scandal evolved, it became obvious that my role as an attorney in that criminal case precluded me from ever being an asset to the CIA in its operations.

The hotel business must play a key role in the intelligence business. Around 1997 an Oriental friend in Houston, Texas, where I live, told me that she had been approached by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to move to Bangkok, Thailand. There she would be in charge of the hospitality desk in the lobby of one of the most prominent luxury hotels. Her duties would be to follow and report on the movements of drug lords who stayed at the hotel or conducted business there. She turned down the DEA's offer.

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It's interesting, Mr. Caddy, that you make note that the hotel business and the intelligence business overlap. When you mentioned the Moodys of Galveston as the ones who contacted you re Billie Sol Estes, I tried to remember where I'd heard of them. If I'm not mistaken, it was in Conrad Hilton's book Be My Guest. I believed they loaned him the money to keep Hilton Hotels afloat during the depression. Not sure if there's a connection...

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It's interesting, Mr. Caddy, that you make note that the hotel business and the intelligence business overlap. When you mentioned the Moodys of Galveston as the ones who contacted you re Billie Sol Estes, I tried to remember where I'd heard of them. If I'm not mistaken, it was in Conrad Hilton's book Be My Guest. I believed they loaned him the money to keep Hilton Hotels afloat during the depression. Not sure if there's a connection...

I am unaware of the relationship between the Moody family of Galveston, Texas and a loan to Conrad Hilton during the depression to keep the Hilton hotel chain afloat.

The Moody Foundation probably has wealth estimated at more than 1.5 billion dollars, were a full appraisal made of its assets. It controls the American National Insurance Company of Galveston (ANICO), the founding of which was the basis of the Moody family financial empire.

It used to own and may still do so, through an affiliated operation, two hotels, one in Washington, D.C. and the other in San Antonio, Texas.

The hotel in Washington, D.C. was the Hotel Washington. I stayed there and met and conferred with Shearn Moody, since deceased and one of the then three Foundation trustees, at times during the 1980's. It is located one block from the White House, with only the Treasury Department Building in-between. The view of the Washington skyline from its rooftop terrace is superb.

At one time in 1984 Billie Sol and his daughter stayed at the Washington Hotel, guests of Shearn Moody, when the National Booksellers Assn. was having a convention in Washington. Pam Estes attended the convention as her book about Billie Sol had recently been published and was on display there.

Billie Sol told me that LBJ adamantly refused to enter the doors of the Washington Hotel all during the period LBJ was in Washington for reasons that one can speculate on.

Funds from the Moody Foundation at one time were used to build casinos in Las Vegas operated by the mob. Shearn Moody led the successful fight to regain family control of the foundation and end the funding of these particular questionable activities.

On the subject of the hotel business and intelligence, it should be recalled that Bobby Baker at LBJ's direction, in the early 1960's, opened his Carousel hotel/club on the eastern shore of Maryland that was used to entrap members of Congress. Few recall that at the very time JFK was assassinated a major investigation was underway in Washington on the relationship of Bobby Baker and LBJ that was said would lead to LBJ's downfall. The investigation, which had dominated the media, was terminated within a few days after JFK was killed.

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It's interesting, Mr. Caddy, that you make note that the hotel business and the intelligence business overlap. When you mentioned the Moodys of Galveston as the ones who contacted you re Billie Sol Estes, I tried to remember where I'd heard of them. If I'm not mistaken, it was in Conrad Hilton's book Be My Guest. I believed they loaned him the money to keep Hilton Hotels afloat during the depression. Not sure if there's a connection...

I am unaware of the relationship between the Moody family of Galveston, Texas and a loan to Conrad Hilton during the depression to keep the Hilton hotel chain afloat.

The Moody Foundation probably has wealth estimated at more than 1.5 billion dollars, were a full appraisal made of its assets. It controls the American National Insurance Company of Galveston (ANICO), the founding of which was the basis of the Moody family financial empire.

It used to own and may still do so, through an affiliated operation, two hotels, one in Washington, D.C. and the other in San Antonio, Texas.

The hotel in Washington, D.C. was the Hotel Washington. I stayed there and met and conferred with Shearn Moody, since deceased and one of the then three Foundation trustees, at times during the 1980's. It is located one block from the White House, with only the Treasury Department Building in-between. The view of the Washington skyline from its rooftop terrace is superb.

At one time in 1984 Billie Sol and his daughter stayed at the Washington Hotel, guests of Shearn Moody, when the National Booksellers Assn. was having a convention in Washington. Pam Estes attended the convention as her book about Billie Sol had recently been published and was on display there.

I double-checked it and found that it was indeed the Moodys who bailed out Hilton. Hilton has nothing nice to say about Shearn. Do you know if the Moodys ever had any dealings with the Maceo Brothers, or if they ever had a stake in the legendary Balinese Casino in Galveston?

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When you mentioned the Moodys of Galveston as the ones who contacted you re Billie Sol Estes, I tried to remember where I'd heard of them. If I'm not mistaken, it was in Conrad Hilton's book Be My Guest. I believed they loaned him the money to keep Hilton Hotels afloat during the depression. Not sure if there's a connection...

I was wondering if the Moodys of Galveston relate to the Moody who, according to Gerry Hemming, arranged for Oswald to be flown back into the U.S. from Merida.

It was Molina Rivera whom arranged for the 5 Castro aircraft to slip into Cozumel [without flight plans nor payment of fees to R.A.M.S.A.] 2 days before Rorke, et al. arrived from Merida [after putting LHO on a Lode-Star twin (ex-USN WWII PV-2) owned by, and personally used by one Howard "Gomer" Hughes -- and returned to "Lakefront Airport, NO, LA]. From Cozumel, they (Rorke & Sullivan) were [as prisoners] flown directly to my old base [bAM San Julian], and thence on to the Villa Marista in Habana.
Where was Oswald on his way from when flown into Merida and what would the Hughes connection be to that?
Howard "gomer" Hughes involved ?? Who the hell knows, the Op with the Lode-Star was set up by Moody. Others going to Cuba via slipping on board the Cubana de Aviacion bird refueling at Merida -- well one was Saul "Saggy" my wiiddle friend.

T.C.

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It was Molina Rivera whom arranged for the 5 Castro aircraft to slip into Cozumel [without flight plans nor payment of fees to R.A.M.S.A.] 2 days before Rorke, et al. arrived from Merida [after putting LHO on a Lode-Star twin (ex-USN WWII PV-2) owned by, and personally used by one Howard "Gomer" Hughes -- and returned to "Lakefront Airport, NO, LA]. From Cozumel, they (Rorke & Sullivan) were [as prisoners] flown directly to my old base [bAM San Julian], and thence on to the Villa Marista in Habana.
Where was Oswald on his way from when flown into Merida and what would the Hughes connection be to that?
Howard "gomer" Hughes involved ?? Who the hell knows, the Op with the Lode-Star was set up by Moody. Others going to Cuba via slipping on board the Cubana de Aviacion bird refueling at Merida -- well one was Saul "Saggy" my wiiddle friend.

T.C.

I believe that was a reference to Osmet Moody, who worked for Hughes and ran Cay Sal. Hemming mentions him in his Argosy interview with Dick Russell as well. When I first leaned that the Moodys owned half of Galveston, I also wondered if he was related. I'm not aware of any connection, however. I believe Moody's son joined this Forum briefly. Maybe John can re-contact him and have him provide a more complete history of his father's operations.

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It was Molina Rivera whom arranged for the 5 Castro aircraft to slip into Cozumel [without flight plans nor payment of fees to R.A.M.S.A.] 2 days before Rorke, et al. arrived from Merida [after putting LHO on a Lode-Star twin (ex-USN WWII PV-2) owned by, and personally used by one Howard "Gomer" Hughes -- and returned to "Lakefront Airport, NO, LA]. From Cozumel, they (Rorke & Sullivan) were [as prisoners] flown directly to my old base [bAM San Julian], and thence on to the Villa Marista in Habana.
Where was Oswald on his way from when flown into Merida and what would the Hughes connection be to that?
Howard "gomer" Hughes involved ?? Who the hell knows, the Op with the Lode-Star was set up by Moody. Others going to Cuba via slipping on board the Cubana de Aviacion bird refueling at Merida -- well one was Saul "Saggy" my wiiddle friend.

T.C.

I believe that was a reference to Osmet Moody, who worked for Hughes and ran Cay Sal. Hemming mentions him in his Argosy interview with Dick Russell as well. When I first leaned that the Moodys owned half of Galveston, I also wondered if he was related. I'm not aware of any connection, however. I believe Moody's son joined this Forum briefly. Maybe John can re-contact him and have him provide a more complete history of his father's operations.

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C. Osment Moody was just a "Hughes/CIA Corporate Proprietary Suit", and was never an active "Operator" !!

Shearn Moody, along with the owner of the Indianapolis Star, helped finance former O.S.S. Colonel Ulius Amoss in the creation of "International Services of Information (I.S.I.), Baltimore, Maryland -- and its publication "INFORM".

Shearn Moody was one of the Texas financiers that helped InterPen arm and equip Tony Questa, Ramon Font, Eduardo "Bayo" Perez et al.; after they had broken with CIA and quit the subchaser "Tejana II" maritime operations (early 1962).

When Tony Cuesta refused to go along with our prohibitions against "heating-up-the-north-coast" of Cuba by the over-use of raiding missions, we cut off the Texas financing. This forced Tony Cuesta to join with the newly formed "Alpha-66" group (financed by D.I.A.); and they became the sole combat raider element of that organization.

When Cuesta, Font, "Bayo" et al. later discovered that Cmdte. Eloy Gutierrez Menoyo was at the top of the Alpha-66 leadership (early 1963), they immediately broke with Alpha-66 and formed "Comandos Libre", which was later renamed as "Comandos L" -- and under that banner did the LIFE Mag assisted raid at Caibarrien Harbor -- sinking the Soviet merchantman "Baku".

When Howard K. Davis and I initially set up the first operations with "Bayo"

(February 1963), the financing came from Shearn Moody and other financiers in Texas. The first operation planned, was a strike/occupation of Cap Haitien Airport, Haiti. Initial financing came from entities in NYC and Baltimore. Weapons, ammo, explosives, etc. were acquired from Rich Lauchli (LOXCO) in Collinsville, Illinois. Mike Mclaney assisted in some aspects, but was primarily focused on Ops by RFK's SGA/DI elements at that time -- which were kept compartmented from us until late 1963.

Shearn Moody was in close contact with Col. Arturo Espaillat, Robert Emmett Johnson et al. in Montreal (1962-1963) and gave that group financial support.

Shearn Moody was always in close collaboration with elements of the "Hughes Tool Company", and often borrowed aircraft, vessels, and other equipment which were necessary in supporting operations against Cuba.

Details of exactly how Shearn Moody became involved in the LHO "dangle" to the Cuban DGI/DSE Mexico operations, and his compartmented knowledge of same, remains highly classified. However, it was understood by RFK et al., that Moody was a "Patriot", and would cooperate in the support of any SGA/DI (or other) operations. Some of those were carried out under the auspices of subordinated projects that had been crypto'd as AM/TRUNK, AM/WORLD, AM/TRUCK, AM/TRASH, etc. !!

Shearn Moody would have known even less than any of us, especially during our then, overly compartmented (and meager) efforts, during most of 1963.

The 1963 Alex Rorke, Sullivan operation was jointly financed by Moody, Sherman Billingsly et al. and was closely monitored by George Joannides, who by that time had been TDY'd from JM/WAVE to SGA/DI operations under RFK.

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C. Osment Moody was just a "Hughes/CIA Corporate Proprietary Suit", and was never an active "Operator" !! Shearn Moody, along with the owner of the Indianapolis Star, helped finance former O.S.S. Colonel Ulius Amoss in the creation of "International Services of Information (I.S.I.), Baltimore, Maryland -- and its publication "INFORM". Shearn Moody was one of the Texas financiers that helped InterPen arm and equip Tony Questa, Ramon Font, Eduardo "Bayo" Perez et al.; after they had broken with CIA and quit the subchaser "Tejana II" maritime operations (early 1962).

The mention of the role as a Texas financier is what previously led me to ask about a relationship between C. Osment Moody and the Galveston Moodys:

I was wondering if the Moodys of Galveston relate to the Moody who, according to Gerry Hemming, arranged for Oswald to be flown back into the U.S. from Merida.

T.C.

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The Moody Foundation probably has wealth estimated at more than 1.5 billion dollars, were a full appraisal made of its assets. It controls the American National Insurance Company of Galveston (ANICO), the founding of which was the basis of the Moody family financial empire.

I have been researching the activities of Paul Lional Helliwell recently. In 1943 Colonel Helliwell became head of the Secret Intelligence Branch of the OSS in Europe. Helliwell was replaced in this post by William Casey in 1945.

After the war Helliwell became chief of the Far East Division of the War Department's Strategic Service Unit, an interim intelligence organization formed after OSS was closed down. In 1947 Helliwell joined the Central Intelligence Agency. He was involved with Tommy Corcoran, William Pawley and Claire Chennault in supporting Chaing Kai-shek's government in Formosa in the 1950s.

Helliwell, via Corcoran, eventually took over the running of the Civil Air Transport (CAT). He also established the Sea Supply Corporation, a shipping company in Bangkok.

It was Helliwell's idea to use these CIA fronted companies to raise money to help support Chaing Kai-shek. According to Joseph Trento (Prelude to Terror): "Through Sea Supply, Helliwell imported large amounts of arms for the KMT soldiers to keep the Burmese military from throwing them out of the country. The arms were ferried into Burma on CAT airplanes. CAT then used the "empty" planes to fly drugs from Burma to Taiwan, Bangkok, and Saigon. There the drugs were processed for the benefit of the KMT and Chiang Kai-shek's corrupt government on Taiwan."

In late 1950s he worked for the CIA in Cuba. In the early 1960s he was based in Miami and was involved in the funding of anti-Castro operations. Helliwell was sent by the CIA to the Bahamas where he set up offshore banks for CIA use. At first he established the Mercantile Bank and Trust Company and then the Castle Bank and Trust Company. Helliwell also established the American Bankers Insurance Company in Galveston, Texas. This provided insurance cover for businessmen who cooperated with the CIA.

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