Nathaniel Heidenheimer Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 As possible meaningless generalizations go, is it the impression of this forum that the ONI was further to the right than perhaps the CIA and other intelligence agencies? I realize that "farther right" can be a vague term when some of the psychological aspects of intel. work are considered so let me clarify two characteristics of "far right" the way I am using the term here. 1. Possibly having more connections to the China Lobby and people of the Willoughby-Frank Capell- Billy James Hargiss- Edwin Walker chain. 2. Unilateralists with strong direct investment ties in Latin America My motivation in posing the question in terms of ONI are the following disparate observations 1. John Newman seems to be arguing that LBJ was receiving back channel intel. on Vietnam that was deliberately kept from JFK 2. P.D. Scott suggests that Willoughby et al. may have had close ties to Diem and his brother's wife. Domestic friends of this far right intel network seem to have been critical of the Diem coup of 63, and according to Newman, LBJ voiced scepticism about the wisdom of the Diem removal on his first cabinet NSC? meeting. Was this a signal to a possible ONI intel chain that also had domsestic connections in Texas? 3. Naval Admiral Burke of the JCS seems to have been the single most bellicose JCS meber on Laos and Vietnam in the April 1961 meetings dealing with the Laos crisis. He clashed openly with Kennedy and seems to have been supported mostly by Johnson. 4. Years later in 1970, the Naval cheif Admiral Thomas H. Moorer seems to have been the leader in a JCS spy ring inside Nixon's NSC. Moorer, according to Silent Coup authors Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin, seems to have been deeply distrustful of Nixon's moves toward detente, and Moorer was more optomistic than most about the chances for military victory in Vietnam. Moorer was a southerner as was most of the domestic links in the Willoughby chain. 5. I am wondering if the independent intelligence network that Johnson was using might also have some connections with Hunt and Buckley in the Mexico City CIA station that might explain why one part of the CIA got info about the Oswald trip and other's did not? Might there be ONI agents with connections to CIA that could sometimes share intelligence, and sometimes choose to "park" it i.e. save it for a later date? 6. What do you make of this except from the Bartolomew article quoting Newman: There is another time period in Newman's book which deals with the back-channel to LBJ. Newman had long discussions with Burris about where he got this. "And the answer was the boys in the woodwork. And the question was: Who are the boys in the woodwork? And the answer was: `Well I'd rather not really say and bring all of that up. You, I know, you're one of them.' Alright, I'm military, I also have an intelligence background. Peter Dale Scott and I have been working very closely on a number of issues. He's writing a book as a matter of fact. He was assuming for a while that it was military. And I said, `Peter, it may not be that. It may be Langley.' He said, `Why do you say that?' Well there's one more piece. Burris told me that later on, `McCone put a stop to what I was getting from him.' This was relating to the combat intelligence. McCone was directing CIA. And all of the clues I got out of this fellow on who his contacts were -- my own interpretation was that they were in fact CIA. I don't know that for sure."101 I now realize that Burris was Air Force and not Naval intel. Nevertheless, what do we make of McCone's aparent ability to turn on and off sources of info for Burris. Remember, according to Newman, LBJ was getting Burris' reports but JFK wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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