John Simkin Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 I am not aware that Mr. Simkin was ever banished from the DellaRosa forum, as he claims. I do not remember him ever posting there, and Rich makes a public posting when anybody is banned for cause (Thompson, Lamson, Marsh, Wim, Miller and several others). I check the forum daily, and have never seen a banishment of Simkin. I cannot imagine Rich banishing him. Rich only banishes someone for abusive behavior or trying to sabotage the website. Twice Rich traced forum failures to some of the above persons. Jack I was banished for criticizing Bob Vernon. At the time, the dominant ideology of your forum was to support the views of Bob over Wim concerning James Files. I expect Bob was making donations to the running of the forum and his views had some influence over Rich. Not that I was supporting the James Files theory. It was just that I was giving Wim the freedom to post his views on my forum. This is false. Rich DellaRosa was opposed to ALL the garbage of BOTH Vernon and Dankbaar. NEITHER OF THEM SUPPORTED RICH'S FORUM. Neither of them had any influence over Rich, and both repeatedly violated forum rules. Rich booted Wim, but I think Vernon left on his own after he sold all his nonsense to Wim. Most of the researchers on Rich's forum were opposed to the nonsense about Files and Judyth being spread by first Vernon and then Wim. In effect, the two of them, along with Judyth, were hijacking the forum. Rich played along with Judyth for nearly a year to see whether she could provide proof of her nutty claims. She could not. I find that I was mistaken about Simkin's dismissal...it was not for misconduct like Miller, Lamson, et al, but for cross-posting messages from Rich's forum to this forum without permission (another violation of rules), and failing to cease when requested. One of the persons booted from Rich's forum used technical electronic means to bring down Rich's forum. Rich was able to trace the hacking to a particular computer...but has never pressed charges as he could have done. Rich is an invalid in failing health and is not up to such nonsense. Jack Excerpted from Rich DellaRosa, with his permission:Quoting someone who is a member of both forums: Normally I don’t believe this would be a proper topic for discussion on this forum. And of course Rich can delete a post he sees as inappropriate or against the rules. However, this forum has recently been a topic of discussion on another internet venue. On the UK forum run by former forum member, John Simkin, it has been stated that John was banished from this forum because he sided with Bob Vernon in some type of disagreement with Wim Dankbaar. That is not the way I remember it. A current member of this forum stated on this other internet venue that he doesn’t recall John Simkin ever posting on this forum. John Simkin was indeed a member of this forum until he was banned. My memory is that he was banned for violation of forum rules, in that he copied posts from this forum to his own. ...when false or misleading statements are made anywhere on the internet regarding this forum I think it is a good idea that any confusion be cleared up. Name Deleted Rich DellaRosa's response: Simkin was booted for two reaons: 1. He used this forum's member list to send unsolicited emails to advertise his forum. While some members didn't mind receiving them, other members complained that they considered those emails as spam. I so advised Simkin more than once but he ignored my requests that he refrain from using our member info for his solicitation purposes. [This wasn't even an original idea since Bill Miller had done the same thing a few years earlier to entice participation on the Lancer forum.] 2. As [you] noted, Simkin was copying messages posted here which were written by other members and without their permission cross-posting them on his forum. (I have always, from Day 1, believed that members here are entitled to copyright privileges for their material and that they feel secure that they may post without concern that their posts would find unintended audiences). Again, Simkin ignored repeated appeals to cease doing so. All he had to do was request permission from the original posters to use their material. From his behavior I could only assume that such a courtesy was more than he was willing to give. No one has ever been booted from here for breaking forum rules one time. In every case their bannishment occurred only after repeated infractions and repeated warnings to cease. In one unfortunate instance over a year ago, a member copied a post made by another member here and cross-posted it to Simkin's forum. The post contained an old article. I was subsequently contacted by the author of that article and threatened with legal action which could be averted by sending a payment of $10,000. As the operator of this venue I am protected from members possibly infringing on the copyrights of others by the Digital Millenium Copyright Act passed by Congress a few years ago. But suffice to say that cross- posting other people's material can be potentially dangerous. ...deletion of some material on different topic... ...encouraging dissent & debate would generate more traffic. (I know this first hand from the days when folks like Miller, Lamson, Thompson, Dankbaar, et al. had things stirred up here). I might also xxxxx other venues and use their member information to invite others to participate here. I might help myself to info posted elsewhere and cross-post them here in order to generate more interest, debate, dissent, disruption, etc. This forum wouldn't much resemble the place we have all come to know and appreciate. And ---- that is exactly why I won't do it. END OF DELLAROSA QUOTE. That is the other side of the story. 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