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Infiltrators, saboteurs and fifth-columnists


Douglas Caddy
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Historians and the world’s citizenry in general owe a debt of gratitude to John Simkin for creating the J. F. Kennedy Assassination and Watergate sections on Spartacus. The contributions of material and information by Forum members have created a treasure trove that will be mined for years to come.

So valuable have the Kennedy Assassination and Watergate archives become in disseminating this information on a world-wide basis that the Forum’s members need to face the real possibility that the Forum may soon be targeted for some form of annihilation or destruction, if it is not already.

On this past Monday I attended a special event in Houston sponsored by Pacifica radio station KPFT at which Greg Palast of the BBC and The Guardian newspaper spoke. Palast is the author of Armed Madhouse, which last week hit the New York Times Best-Seller list, and of a previous best-seller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

KPFT in Houston is one of five Pacifica non-commercial radio stations in the United States, situated in major cities, whose daily public affairs programming is a constant thorn in the side of the authoritarian Powers That Be who control all three branches of the government and most of the mass media in the U.S. today.

At the reception preceding the Palast lecture to a packed auditorium audience, one of the KPFT directors recounted to me how over the years the Powers That Be have sent infiltrators, saboteurs, and fifth-columnists into the Pacifica community in an attempt to take it over or at a minimum neutralize its effectiveness. These Trojan Horse efforts have been repulsed successfully by the mobilization of more than a million listeners, volunteers and financial contributors who make possible the on-going educational and non-profit work of Pacifica.

A similar effort in my opinion is or soon will be mounted against the Forum. Members of the Kennedy Assassination and Watergate sections of the Forum should be on guard to spot those who join our ranks whose motivation is to end the effectiveness of the Forum as a group effort in gathering and posting valuable information.

Among the tell-tale signs of these infiltrators, saboteurs and fifth-columnists are unbridled, unwarranted, unprovoked and vicious attacks on other forum members and the postings of so-called “information” that is essentially mis-information or trivia designed to affect adversely the Forum’s credibility.

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Historians and the world’s citizenry in general owe a debt of gratitude to John Simkin for creating the J. F. Kennedy Assassination and Watergate sections on Spartacus. The contributions of material and information by Forum members have created a treasure trove that will be mined for years to come.

*****Hi Doug:

I totally agree. SO long as this forum, and ones like it are not regulated or destroyed, this is an invaluable service for historians who come searching for the truth on who killed JFK.

So valuable have the Kennedy Assassination and Watergate archives become in disseminating this information on a world-wide basis that the Forum’s members need to face the real possibility that the Forum may soon be targeted for some form of annihilation or destruction, if it is not already.

****I fear this daily. BUT there is a lot on the net and they cannot destroy it all. There are many who seek the truth. "The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth", as people take an oath before testifying.

I think we are safe. For now at least.

On this past Monday I attended a special event in Houston sponsored by Pacifica radio station KPFT at which Greg Palast of the BBC and The Guardian newspaper spoke. Palast is the author of Armed Madhouse, which last week hit the New York Times Best-Seller list, and of a previous best-seller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

****Sadly, and as you know, ours has been "bought" for some time now. I have enjoyed your posts regarding

your conversation from being a Republican to a liberal Democrat and what caused you to leave. I have copied and pasted many of your posts on this matter to my very right wing cousin HOward in Canada. He gets his news from 3 sourses: Fox, Rush and Ann Coulter. I have sent him much from this forum, all to no avail. He calls it "looney conspiracies"

KPFT in Houston is one of five Pacifica non-commercial radio stations in the United States, situated in major cities, whose daily public affairs programming is a constant thorn in the side of the authoritarian Powers That Be who control all three branches of the government and most of the mass media in the U.S. today.

****We are in desperate need of many more such stations, journalists and historians. Alas, OP MOckingbird is guite large.

At the reception preceding the Palast lecture to a packed auditorium audience, one of the KPFT directors recounted to me how over the years the Powers That Be have sent infiltrators, saboteurs, and fifth-columnists into the Pacifica community in an attempt to take it over or at a minimum neutralize its effectiveness. These Trojan Horse efforts have been repulsed successfully by the mobilization of more than a million listeners, volunteers and financial contributors who make possible the on-going educational and non-profit work of Pacifica.

****These types control virtually all the commercial media, which is why forums like this are so invaluable.

A similar effort in my opinion is or soon will be mounted against the Forum. Members of the Kennedy Assassination and Watergate sections of the Forum should be on guard to spot those who join our ranks whose motivation is to end the effectiveness of the Forum as a group effort in gathering and posting valuable information

****Doug. There have been members here since the start whose sole goal is to cause dissent, hijack threads, change the subject, drop the subject, forget the subject...One such member got banned not long ago. (For threats to our moderator). Perhaps his goal was to seek the truth, but he never convinced me of this as his view of who killed jfk was so narrow and so "cover story": (Plan B if the lone nut story falls ; blame Castro.) And he did. NO matter how many books he read he brought it all back to "Castro did it." I did like him as a person, but his politics and innane view on the assassination got old very fast.

Among the tell-tale signs of these infiltrators, saboteurs and fifth-columnists are unbridled, unwarranted, unprovoked and vicious attacks on other forum members and the postings of so-called “information” that is essentially mis-information or trivia designed to affect adversely the Forum’s credibility.

John calls us "divergent thinkers" and our task is not just to discover who killed JFK and why but to also spot

infiltrators and saboteurs. This is not a parlor game. It is deadly serious and I for one have one agenda: The truth. It is why I went to law school and governs all aspects of my life.

Like another fallen hero of mine once penned:

"All I want is some truth; just gimme the truth"

-John Lennon

Dawn

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Thanks, Doug, for staying and fighting. All too often, in conspiracy-land, people get so far out there on their own little limbs they begin to suspect the nearby limbs of being hatchets. (Hey, I just made that up...but I kinda like it.) Sometimes pleasant discourse with these people can be difficult. I believe a certain someone--who just so happens to share a name with a Canadian porn queen--is simply misguided. He's picked up on the fact that stories told from different angles are messy, and rather than accepting the "Rashomon factor," is obsessed with the idea that people who fail to remember the details of their lives with absolute precision are "liars." He then has convinced himself these "liars" are part of some grand conspiracy to hide the truth about the CIA and Gerry Ford. As if this country would have been so much better off if only Nixon had remained in office... Hopefully we can bring him back to Earth in the coming days.

But I share your concerns re infiltrators. IF this Forum is to be targeted, it won't be infiltrated by right-wing-types who come in here and are willing to discuss facts, made-up or otherwise. It will be infiltrated by petty people with wild theories who throw insults around and drive reasonable and respectable people away.

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