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One less anti-American scumbag walking the Earth. Pity.

Repeated requests to remove this scumbag have fallen on deaf ears, even

though he has never posted ANY research.

Jack

Jack:

He's only here to annoy us. Research? I doubt he can spell the word.

And yes BS I have more work than I need at the moment.

I wonder what I would get if I bothered to google you. Not enuf time to waste

on such a thing tho. Probably not even your real name or pic. You're really Lynn Foster

in drag. You might consider suicide. :) When it comes to you I am reminded of the late,

great Freddy Mercury in "Don' t Try Suicide" : " no body gives a damn". That about sums up

how you are viewed here.

Dawn

I'm game for murder-suicide if you are. When can you get here?

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One less anti-American scumbag walking the Earth. Pity.

I would also call on the administrators to remove BS from this Forum.

A nakedly fascist tactic from the same guy who always bitches about fascism. The irony is delicious.

In true Nazi style he celebrates the death of those he hates - this even included the near death of one of our members.

No, a true Nazi would have killed Webb and millions more like him. Your buddy Jack is a doddering, incompetent flake.

Such sociopathy can not be justified here as 'free speech'!

Sieg heil!

It is clearly hate speech repeatedly at specific members (I can cite) and the tradition of the enlightenment and humanity in general. There have to be limits!

Oh please. You people are too cartoonish to hate.

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One less anti-American scumbag walking the Earth. Pity.

I would also call on the administrators to remove BS from this Forum.

A nakedly fascist tactic from the same guy who always bitches about fascism. The irony is delicious.

In true Nazi style he celebrates the death of those he hates - this even included the near death of one of our members.

No, a true Nazi would have killed Webb and millions more like him. Your buddy Jack is a doddering, incompetent flake.

Such sociopathy can not be justified here as 'free speech'!

Sieg heil!

It is clearly hate speech repeatedly at specific members (I can cite) and the tradition of the enlightenment and humanity in general. There have to be limits!

Oh please. You people are too cartoonish to hate.

Another way the CIA and other agencies of the thugocracy control the news and views is to have persons like BS on this and other forums creating hate and chaos and trying to disrupt the dissemination of research and exploration of the truth. Agent provocateur is the term. Hatemonger another. Sadly, he is a perfect example of what forces we face now in America. [with the idea that exploration of the truth if it upsets or exposes those in illegal power now is 'anti-american' and a fair target for execution] If you laugh at him, remember they also laughed at the Nazis at first.....

You don't live in America, Pete, so shut your Fifth Columnist trap.

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You don't live in America, Pete, so shut your Fifth Columnist trap.

You are the most pathetic member we have had on this forum. You appear to be incapable of intellectual argument.

You're right. Maybe I'd garner more respect if I said the CIA controlled the news, shadowless Zapruder was not standing on the pedestal, and Gorbachev won the Cold War. I'd be wrong, but at least I'd be an "intellectual" by your standards.

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You don't live in America, Pete, so shut your Fifth Columnist trap.

You are the most pathetic member we have had on this forum. You appear to be incapable of intellectual argument.

You're right. Maybe I'd garner more respect if I said the CIA controlled the news, shadowless Zapruder was not standing on the pedestal, and Gorbachev won the Cold War. I'd be wrong, but at least I'd be an "intellectual" by your standards.

Doubtful, you've clearly shown you know little about the jfk assassination. Your an ill read LN googling for answers wanna be who wants to provoke political fights from the SAFETY of your lair. Nobody would likely respect you even if you did discuss pertinant issues on this forum. Why? You can't keep up. McAdams doesn't have the time to keep his site updated. That's why you throw out political darts at a large board. When you're forced to get specific on the jfk assassination, you get stupid.

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You don't live in America, Pete, so shut your Fifth Columnist trap.

You are the most pathetic member we have had on this forum. You appear to be incapable of intellectual argument.

John

What reason did this person-and I use the term loosely- give for wanting to join the forum? He's exhibited zero knowledge on this case and has harrassed most of the members. I am assuming that this IS his purpose. To spread hate and division. He's not been successful in this, more like an annoying knat. If we are going to have a right wing lunatic here, why not one that actually cares about this case? At least when Tim Gratz was here he actually read books on this case. Sure he pushed his innane Castro- did -it pet theory, but his posts were intelligent and he was generally civil to the other members. (Til he decided to sue you, of course and that crossed the line). TC and TG get banned but BS is allowed to spew his hate and filth, in the name of .....??????

Dawn

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What reason did this person-and I use the term loosely- give for wanting to join the forum?

To embarrass so-called attorneys at every turn. Let me guess: you're one of those slip-n-fall lawyers. Lord knows we don't have enough of those.

He's exhibited zero knowledge on this case and has harrassed most of the members. I am assuming that this IS his purpose. To spread hate and division.

Well, you'd know all about hate, toots. Aren't you the same miscreant who railed about Bush Admin "Nazis" and the eeeeeevil Zionists?

He's not been successful in this, more like an annoying knat.

It's "gnat," sweetie. I would think you'd know that, since you both share the same brain capacity.

If we are going to have a right wing lunatic here, why not one that actually cares about this case? At least when Tim Gratz was here he actually read books on this case.

You don't know jack about the case. You lemmings whine that the WC tried to pin it on LHO regardless of the facts, yet you're doing the same thing in reverse.

Sure he pushed his innane Castro- did -it pet theory, but his posts were intelligent and he was generally civil to the other members. (Til he decided to sue you, of course and that crossed the line). TC and TG get banned but BS is allowed to spew his hate and filth, in the name of .....??????

Hmm. Funny how the dissenters are the only ones to get banned. A coincidence, I'm sure.

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If we are going to have a right wing lunatic here, why not one that actually cares about this case? At least when Tim Gratz was here he actually read books on this case.

You don't know jack about the case. You lemmings whine that the WC tried to pin it on LHO regardless of the facts, yet you're doing the same thing in reverse.

Sure he pushed his innane Castro- did -it pet theory, but his posts were intelligent and he was generally civil to the other members. (Til he decided to sue you, of course and that crossed the line). TC and TG get banned but BS is allowed to spew his hate and filth, in the name of .....??????

Hmm. Funny how the dissenters are the only ones to get banned. A coincidence, I'm sure.

He was banned because he

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If we are going to have a right wing lunatic here, why not one that actually cares about this case? At least when Tim Gratz was here he actually read books on this case.

You don't know jack about the case. You lemmings whine that the WC tried to pin it on LHO regardless of the facts, yet you're doing the same thing in reverse.

Sure he pushed his innane Castro- did -it pet theory, but his posts were intelligent and he was generally civil to the other members. (Til he decided to sue you, of course and that crossed the line). TC and TG get banned but BS is allowed to spew his hate and filth, in the name of .....??????

Hmm. Funny how the dissenters are the only ones to get banned. A coincidence, I'm sure.

Tim Gratz was banned because he THREATENED TO SUE JOHN. Not because he dissented.

I know plenty about this case. You're the dimwit around here. What have you produced of any value? And I have not ever said a thing about Zionists. Must have me confused with someone else. And no I am not a personal injury attorney. I do many types of law: criminal defense, juvenile, child protective services, parole, TX Youth Commission. No slip and falls. And what is it again that Y0U do??

Now take your little toys and go haunt someplace else. I don't understand why people remain where they are not wanted. Inferiority complex? A deep desire to be hated? Seems irrational to me.

Dawn

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I note that BS didn't even try to address anything I brought up here....and 'enlighten' us.

You know why? Because like a little fink, you went back in the still of the night and added a whole bunch of pointless crap to your post. You think I'm gonna waste my time on an Anti-American little monkey who thinks Castro occupies a higher moral plane than Bush? Puhleeze. Speaking of being stonewalled, why have you not declared your nationality? I believe I asked you to clarify that some time ago. Tick tock.

Why the world hates America

By Michael Medved

Wednesday, August 23, 2006

The disease of America Hatred now has reached pandemic proportions in many corners of the globe, spreading far beyond the predictably hopeless fever swamps of Islamic militants, French intellectuals, or Latin American demagogues. In fact, many citizens within the USA itself energetically embrace the basic assumptions of America Hatred, perceiving their country as an unequivocally negative force on the world scene.

John Tirman, director of MIT’s prestigious Center for International Studies, recently wrote a book called “100 Ways America is Screwing Up the World.” When questioned on my radio show, he refused to dismiss the notion that humanity might have been better off if Europeans had never settled North America in the first place – in other words, if the USA as we know it had never come into existence.

The most direct way to counter such disgraceful fatuity is with reference to a key element in a classic American contribution to world cinema: Frank Capra’s “It’s a Wonderful Life.” George Bailey (Jimmy Stewart) learns to appreciate his own worth after getting a glimpse of the direction his community of Bedford Falls might have taken had he not been around to serve and save it. By the same token, America bashers might try a thought experiment in which they imagine a world in which the USA never existed and played no current role. Would Belgium and Canada have somehow pooled their mighty military machines and succeeded in rescuing humanity from Naziism – and Communism? If not for the United States, which nation might have inspired the world to pursue self-government and human rights? Remember, the famous French Revolution proved so feckless in this regard that the frog-eaters anointed an all-powerful Emperor (Napoleon) less than twenty years after they guillotined their king. In terms of commercial activity and living standards, the United States remains the indefatigable engine that drives the world economy, with productivity and ingenuity as indispensable to sustaining global prosperity as American agricultural bounty is essential to feeding all of humanity.

The irrational nature of America Hatred comes into clearest focus with the realization that this destructive passion flourishes most spectacularly among those who have benefited most conspicuously from the existence of the U.S. You’ll find such festering resentment in Western Europe in general (France in particular), Islamic nations especially dependent on American aid, support and trade (Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, for example), among pampered, privileged stars in the entertainment industry, and on elite university campuses in the United States and around the world.

If, then, the most outspoken advocates of America Hatred have seldom suffered personally at the hands of the nation they loathe, how can we understand their implacable hostility? Three factors help to explain this impassioned abhorrence which, like most consuming hatreds, does its most serious damage to the haters themselves ---

I. ENVY

When the society often described as “the world’s most hated nation” also turns out to be the country most fervently desired as a destination for immigrants from everywhere, then it’s blindingly obvious that envy plays the leading role in generating hostility to the United States. In the same way that the most successful kid in school will generate considerable resentment, or the most prominent and prosperous citizen of a town will provoke hostility from some of his less fortunate neighbors, the US draws anger and condemnation precisely because of its overwhelming power and influence. America hatred has clearly intensified in the last fifteen years, though it’s hard to make the case that our country has suddenly begun playing a more destructive role in the world since the conclusion of the Cold War. What changed since the collapse of the Soviet Union is the disappearance of any credible rival to the last remaining superpower, so that the US, as the unequivocally dominant power on the planet, draws more anger and suspicion than it did during the long struggle with global Communism.

Moreover, the envy that spurs anti-Americanism often stems from a resentment of US power, rather than jealousy of the wealth and freedoms Americans so obviously enjoy. For instance, the citizens of the Netherlands boast living standards that compare favorably with those of many Americans, and have built a vibrant democracy with abundant civil liberties. Nevertheless, when voters go to the polls in Amsterdam or Utrecht they make decisions with no significant consequences beyond the boundaries of Holland; American elections, by contrast, help determine the future of all of civilization and resonate in the remotest corners of the planet. After the Bush re-election in 2004, several journalists in Europe suggested that residents of nations allied with America should get the chance to vote in US elections because of the impact of those campaigns on every nation’s future —a sure indication of the seething envy for the centrality and influence of the USA that contributes unmistakably to America Hatred.

Among America-haters within the USA, their jealousy is directed at presently powerful major institutions (the military, the corporations, the Republican Party, conservative religious groups) and the “great unwashed” who support them. Their alienation from long-standing traditions, current trends, and the majority of their fellow citizens make them feel like exiles in their own country – and to resent the nation which, for the most part, continues to ignore their increasingly hysterical criticisms.

II. THE LEGACY OF COMMUNISM.

For nearly fifty years the Communist Empire that covered half the globe invested untold resources in the most vile and relentless anti-American propaganda. More than a billion adults in today’s world grew up under fanatical dictatorships headed by the likes of Brezhnev, Mao, Castro, Kim Il Sung where school books, youth organizations, radio, movies, TV, newspapers, even official holidays spread the vicious and preposterous lies about life in the United States. Declassified files in the former Soviet Union show that the KGB and related organizations also spent literally hundreds of millions of dollars to spread the same lies in the West – hiring countless agents of “disinformation” to communicate the idea that America is a uniquely cruel, corrupt, exploitative, racist, militaristic, imperialist, and religiously fanatical society whose very existence menaces “People’s Republics” everywhere. Of course, Communist dictatorships remain in power from Beijing to Havana and they’ve been joined recently by leftist demagogues such as Hugo Chavez in Venezuela or Evo Morales in Bolivia who depend on whipping up anti-Yankee sentiment to maintain their tenuous hold on power. To an astonishing degree, the condemnations of the United States by even the most “advanced” and “sophisticated” pundits and professors in the West continue to echo the ancient particulars of Marxist anti-Americanism first put forward by Lenin himself, and later elaborated by his Stalinist successors. In a sense, the current discredited state of Marxist ideology (with massive economic failures and appalling mass murder in every nation under Communist rule) only redoubled the anti-American fervor on the left: former apologists for Stalinism, Maoism, Castroism and other horrors can now salve their consciences by insisting that the American economic and political system is even worse than the nightmarish regimes they once embraced.

III. TOXIC POPULAR CULTURE.

Made-in-America movies, TV shows, popular music, fast food and fashion trends remain this nation’s most successful exports to the rest of humanity. Instead of inspiring affection for the USA (as did the Hollywood products of the 1930’s and ‘40’s, for instance), the current entertainment offerings deliver a dark, dysfunctional view of life in North America. Few people in Burundi or Bangladesh will ever get the chance to visit L.A. or New York but they’ll all get visions of American life on TV or at the movies – visions that emphasize violence, sexual indulgence, economic injustice, pervasive corruption, selfishness and villainy of every sort. Most of the societies in the non-Western world (very much including China, India, much of Africa and Latin America, and nearly all of the Islamic world) maintain a commitment to highly traditional family values that would rank as outrageously restrictive, even “puritanical” in US terms. Of course, hundreds of millions in such societies view the risqué contents of American entertainment as decadent and damaging, a (perhaps conspiratorial) threat to the morals that traditionalists year to sustain and defend. When the most creative story-tellers within America itself fail time and again to portray the overwhelming goodness, decency, kindness and wide-open opportunity that remain essential elements of the American experience, then one can hardly blame the impoverished audiences in less fortunate corners of the earth for remaining ignorant of the true nature of the USA.

The factors that produce the surging levels of America Hatred—Envy, Communist Legacy and Pop Cultural influence—all do more damage to the people who succumb to that loathing than they do to the interests of the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Envy distracts from constructive effort, paralyzing both nations and individuals; nostalgia for the bad-old-days of Marxist tyranny encourages the worst tendencies in any society, and embracing the current products of US pop culture (gangsta rap, anyone?) grants influence to the worst, not the best, messages from American society.

The one form of anti-Americanism that ought to worry the citizens and leaders of this country involves the elitist contempt here at home for the nation’s past and present—contempt tirelessly fomented by leading educators and media figures. Political historian Michael Barone recently identified such leaders as “our covert enemies” who have “been working, over many years, to undermine faith in our society and confidence in its goodness…. Our covert enemies don’t want the Islamo-fascists to win. But in some corner of their hearts they would like us to lose.”

Understanding and confronting America Hatred wherever it occurs, around the world but most importantly here at home, will help to insure that these potentially dangerous enemies never get their secret wish.

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Last night, Sunday, July 30, Dr. Steven Greer appeared on Art Bell’s international radio show, coasttocoastam. While his talk was devoted primarily to the SETI project, he did relate that his Disclosure Project had obtained an important 1991 CIA document. The document on its page 6 states that the CIA’s Public Affairs Office, "PAO now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation. This has helped us turn some intelligence failure stories into intelligence success stories, and it has contributed to the accuracy of countless others. In many instances, we have persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could have adversely affected national security interests or jeopardized sources and methods."

Doug, thank you for this posting. It seems that Operation Mockingbird is alive and well.

I've been doing some international travel lately and I'm always surprised at what the news shows in European or Latin American countries. You could watch a Spanish language newscast on US cable stations and see more than you do on the US networks.

There is no doubt that you need to travel to discover the truth about the world. I thought the Soviet Union and China had good systems of government until I visited these countries. I also thought that the UK had a good welfare state and transport system until I visited other European countries.

I have also found my visits to the United States enlightening. Overall it is a better country than the one that is portrayed in Hollywood movies. However, your media was far worse than I expected.

Recent surveys show that young people all over the world are highly suspicious of the media and are more likely to get their news from the internet. This is a healthy development and in the long term will help to undermine the power of organizations like the CIA.

Anderson Cooper's CIA Secret

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/09/...-cia-secret.php

Anderson Cooper has long traded on his biography, carving a niche for himself as the most human of news anchors. But there's one aspect of his past that the silver-haired CNN star has never made public: the months he spent training for a career with the Central Intelligence Agency.

Following his sophomore and junior years at Yale—a well-known recruiting ground for the CIA—Cooper spent his summers interning at the agency's monolithic headquarters in Langley, Virginia, in a program for students interested in intelligence work. His involvement with the agency ended there, and he chose not to pursue a job with the agency after graduation, according to a CNN spokeswoman, who confirmed details of Cooper's CIA involvement to Radar.

"Whatever summer jobs or internships our anchors had in college couldn't be less consequential," she added. He has kept the experience a secret, sources say, out of concern that, if widely known, it might compromise his ability to travel in foreign countries and even possibly put him at greater risk from terrorists.

"He doesn't want to be any more of a target than he already is," says one Anderson confidante. On the other hand, as Bob Woodruff and others have learned, American journalists are already prime targets in the world's conflict zones, and are typically accused of having CIA ties even where none exist. And by not disclosing his training before now, Cooper has arguably made it into a potential issue. "It creates the appearance of something smelly there," says a former CNN official who knows Cooper. (Particularly in light of the period Anderson spent studying Vietnamese at the University of Hanoi after college. Soon after,

Cooper apparently gave up his Bond fantasy to pursue a career in journalism—except for a brief period when he starred as host of ABC's reality show, The Mole.)

According to the spokeswoman, Cooper told his bosses at CNN about his time with the agency. But even if he hadn't, says Walter Isaacson, who headed the network from 2001 to 2003 and is now president of the Aspen Institute, it's not the sort of thing that would automatically require disclosure, since the stint was brief and far in the past. "I think what he did was probably fine and cool, and I've got no problems with it," he added.

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Anderson Cooper's CIA Secret

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/09/...-cia-secret.php

Anderson Cooper has long traded on his biography, carving a niche for himself as the most human of news anchors. But there's one aspect of his past that the silver-haired CNN star has never made public: the months he spent training for a career with the Central Intelligence Agency.

Following his sophomore and junior years at Yale—a well-known recruiting ground for the CIA—Cooper spent his summers interning at the agency's monolithic headquarters in Langley, Virginia, in a program for students interested in intelligence work. His involvement with the agency ended there, and he chose not to pursue a job with the agency after graduation, according to a CNN spokeswoman, who confirmed details of Cooper's CIA involvement to Radar.

Hmmmm. Interesting. I thought once CIA always CIA. I like Anderson Cooper, but will watch him a bit more closely now to see if there is an overt pro gov. spin.

Dawn

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