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Tonight while looking at the Tower turning photo, I noticed oddities

in the reflection on the side of the limo.

VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE SHOWN STANDING ON THE CORNER.

Note the large expanse of CURB REFLECTION WITH FEW PEOPLE!

All the persons seen are STANDING IN THE STREET (curb behind

them). In the rear door is seen a very large CLUSTER OF PERSONS

STANDING VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.

These things seem not to correspond with the Z film. Would someone

like to attempt an analysis?

Jack

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or the fact that you do a really bad von Pein impression?

maybe when you grow up, you can be Ken Rahn?

hell, maybe McAdams will make your dream come true and let you touch his keyboard?

really....the watch phrase with your particular LN pack, "get a life", especially applies to person's of your....ilk....

look in the mirror, punk.

or find something better to do with your time, instead of being a bad amatuer xxxxx.

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Get a haircut, hippy.

hey, that's good.....

a great example of the limits of your intelligence for all to see in two words.

Mr. White may not be right on anything....and imo, he get's some well thought out replies showing him the errors he's made by people who have a lucid opinion, for the most part.....

but you're not a part of that crowd.

I think you're would really be more happy slurpping up the "yay, Team" kool-aid on McAdam's site, no?

bring something to the party, or go home, xxxxx.

and loosen yer tie, it might help get some blood in yer brain.

this site really isn't about "flame wars"....but you get what you play for, dontcha, xxxxx?

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Tonight while looking at the Tower turning photo, I noticed oddities

in the reflection on the side of the limo.

VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE SHOWN STANDING ON THE CORNER.

Note the large expanse of CURB REFLECTION WITH FEW PEOPLE!

All the persons seen are STANDING IN THE STREET (curb behind

them). In the rear door is seen a very large CLUSTER OF PERSONS

STANDING VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.

These things seem not to correspond with the Z film. Would someone

like to attempt an analysis?

Jack

Jack, the issue here again is "PERSPECTIVE" and "TIMING". The Zapruder film see's the people reflected in the limo in the Towner images at a steep angle, thus these people will appear somewhat bunched together. A good example of this is to compare the people seen near the Stemmons sign in the Willis photo with how they appear in the Bronson slide which shows a more perpendicular view of Elm Street. It is also worth noting that the people seen in the Towner images are around the bend in the street and out of Zapruder's field of view. (see example below)

Also, the Zapruder film doesn't capture the same moment in time as Towner's photo, thus people will not be positioned as they were in one image compared to the other.

Bill Miller

Mr. White may not be right on anything....and imo, he get's some well thought out replies showing him the errors he's made by people who have a lucid opinion, for the most part.....

but you're not a part of that crowd.

I have to agree with Tom 100%. I am as quick as anyone to point out what I believe to be a bad observation, but BS has been taking it too far and by that I mean by his giving snide remarks without an educational explanation ... when this happens it makes his responses look to have originated from emotion instead of logic and sound reasoning.

Bill Miller

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Bill, you're the only one who responds to Jack's daily spam, so why should I waste the time and energy doing it myself? Stop taking his bait.

And yet whose reply is first on this thread? Certainly not Bill Miller's. So who really took his bait this time?

It's not hard for others to make you look foolish when you do such a good job of it yourself.

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I asked a sincere question and I get foolish replies.

1. What is the large cluster of people reflected in the limo side, and where are they?

2. What photos show only a very few people on the corner, with wide expanses of

curb to each side of them. That is seen in the reflection, but not in other photos.

Dorman and Bell show the best views of who is on the corner, but do not seem

to relate to the limo reflection, SINCE THE REFLECTION CLEARLY SHOWS ALL THE

PEOPLE IN THE STREET WITH THE CURB BEHIND THEM.

People interested in this reply to this thread. All others should start a thread

called ATTACKING JACK, and post all their replies there.

Jack

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I asked a sincere question and I get foolish replies.

1. What is the large cluster of people reflected in the limo side, and where are they?

2. What photos show only a very few people on the corner, with wide expanses of

curb to each side of them. That is seen in the reflection, but not in other photos.

Dorman and Bell show the best views of who is on the corner, but do not seem

to relate to the limo reflection, SINCE THE REFLECTION CLEARLY SHOWS ALL THE

PEOPLE IN THE STREET WITH THE CURB BEHIND THEM.

People interested in this reply to this thread. All others should start a thread

called ATTACKING JACK, and post all their replies there.

Jack

Jack, your work is always very interesting and food for thought. I enjoy it. Perhaps i may have my reservations but i would never degrade you or anyone that attempts to question.

I was taught to respect my elders and all persons, hence, I always will. However, in my book, "BS" stands for the organic matter that is exuded from a male bovine's behind.

"nuff said".

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Bill, you're the only one who responds to Jack's daily spam, so why should I waste the time and energy doing it myself? Stop taking his bait.

BS, you would "do it" so to educate others for this is supposed to be a "learning forum". Also, you "do it" so to show others that you aren't just some sick individual seeking attention ... it looks better if you can show that you have some knowledge of the case.

Bill Miller

I asked a sincere question and I get foolish replies.

1. What is the large cluster of people reflected in the limo side, and where are they?

2. What photos show only a very few people on the corner, with wide expanses of

curb to each side of them. That is seen in the reflection, but not in other photos.

Dorman and Bell show the best views of who is on the corner, but do not seem

to relate to the limo reflection, SINCE THE REFLECTION CLEARLY SHOWS ALL THE

PEOPLE IN THE STREET WITH THE CURB BEHIND THEM.

People interested in this reply to this thread. All others should start a thread

called ATTACKING JACK, and post all their replies there.

Jack

Jack, quit being a pompous ass! You wanted to get others imput, so do not whine when you do not like the answer. There is nothing wrong with what we see in the reflections in the limo ... because you no longer grasp spacing and perspective, it doesn't mean that something is wrong with the images.

Bill Miller

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