Wim Dankbaar Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I need an electronic copy of the Moorman photo as high resolution as possible. Especially the blowup: http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/THEFEDORA1.gif With appreciation in advance. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Choor Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I need an electronic copy of the Moorman photo as high resolution as possible. Especially the blowup: http://jfkmurdersolved.com/images/THEFEDORA1.gif With appreciation in advance. Wim BTW: I wonder what happened with the original polaroid of Mary Moorman... I know a polaroid doesn't last for a long time. Did they make copies of it and when? And how good were the copies, with what kind of equipment etc. Is the original polaroid still somewhere or is it thrown away after they made the copies? And what about the negative paper where all the chemicals were in when you took the polaroid out of the camera? There is also an negative image on that one, what happened to that polaroid "negative"? Is there a place to see and/or investigate the original 1st copies of the Moorman picture? Or does (as Wim asks) it already exists a very good high resolution copy on the internet? All the ones I've seen till now are very bad and not researchable... I think a good copy of this Moorman picture can show the GK shooter, that must be! Gr. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Forman Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Wim - send me an email. lforman23@comcast.net Keep in mind some folks don't see a fedora - Only three men, one in a cop's hat. - lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Dankbaar Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks Lee, I think that one may be good enough. I didn't say I see a fedora either. Neither do I see 3 men. I do see "something" sticking over the picket fence Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Forman Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Thanks Lee, I think that one may be good enough. I didn't say I see a fedora either. Neither do I see 3 men. I do see "something" sticking over the picket fence Wim I agree with you on the last point wholeheartedly. It is consistent with the account provided by Ed Hoffman. Just as I did look back, the man in the business suit raised the gun. I saw him rest it on the pickets in the fence. . . . And just then I saw a spark of light. I saw a puff of fluffy white smoke. The first thing that crossed my mind was that it might be from a cigarette, but it was much too big for that. I have enhanced it so that you can see the man disguised as a cop and the object that appears to be resting on the pickets, pointed towards Kennedy's head. Welcome back, by the way. - lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 (edited) Moorman polaroid showing the thumb print. I beleive this to be closer to the original copy, than some of the cleaned up versions. Edited September 16, 2006 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Moorman polaroid showing the thumb print. I beleive this to be closer to the original copy, than some of the cleaned up versions. That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID. Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 (edited) Thanks Jack. If you have a better version of the original polaroid, would you mind posting it . Thanks. Edited September 16, 2006 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Choor Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID.Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Jack, -Do you know where the ORIGINAL POLAROID is nowadays? -Do you have a very high resolution copy of that Gordon's original and can you post that one? -Can you explain the "special techniques" he used for copying old faded photos? Gr. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Thanks Jack.If you have a better version of the original polaroid, would you mind posting it . Thanks. There are many versions. The two best are Thompson 1 and Weisberg 1. I have copy negatives but cannot readily lay my hands on prints. They are unfiled and packed in storage boxes. The Smith version is the best one with the thumbprint. Earlier copies do not have the thumbprint. The earliest copy is the Zippo copy. Jack That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID. Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Jack, -Do you know where the ORIGINAL POLAROID is nowadays? -Do you have a very high resolution copy of that Gordon's original and can you post that one? -Can you explain the "special techniques" he used for copying old faded photos? Gr. Paul. As far as I know, the original is still in Mary's bank safe deposit box, unless she has given it to the Sixth Floor Museum. The one posted by Robin was scanned originally by me and was my best one. I posted it several years ago on Rich's Forum. Any scans of the Smith version came from me. Gordon was a photographer with about 50 years of experience. I do not know his special technique, but it involved using 4x5 film, filters, and special contrast controls in development of negative. But the main ingredient was his experience in copying old faded photos. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Thanks Jack. If you have a better version of the original polaroid, would you mind posting it . Thanks. There are many versions. The two best are Thompson 1 and Weisberg 1. I have copy negatives but cannot readily lay my hands on prints. They are unfiled and packed in storage boxes. The Smith version is the best one with the thumbprint. Earlier copies do not have the thumbprint. The earliest copy is the Zippo copy. Jack That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID. Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Jack, -Do you know where the ORIGINAL POLAROID is nowadays? -Do you have a very high resolution copy of that Gordon's original and can you post that one? -Can you explain the "special techniques" he used for copying old faded photos? Gr. Paul. As far as I know, the original is still in Mary's bank safe deposit box, unless she has given it to the Sixth Floor Museum. The one posted by Robin was scanned originally by me and was my best one. I posted it several years ago on Rich's Forum. Any scans of the Smith version came from me. Gordon was a photographer with about 50 years of experience. I do not know his special technique, but it involved using 4x5 film, filters, and special contrast controls in development of negative. But the main ingredient was his experience in copying old faded photos. Jack No Jack the Moorman posted by Robin is not the copy YOU had made. It is the 1967 THOMPSON copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Thanks Jack. If you have a better version of the original polaroid, would you mind posting it . Thanks. There are many versions. The two best are Thompson 1 and Weisberg 1. I have copy negatives but cannot readily lay my hands on prints. They are unfiled and packed in storage boxes. The Smith version is the best one with the thumbprint. Earlier copies do not have the thumbprint. The earliest copy is the Zippo copy. Jack That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID. Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Jack, -Do you know where the ORIGINAL POLAROID is nowadays? -Do you have a very high resolution copy of that Gordon's original and can you post that one? -Can you explain the "special techniques" he used for copying old faded photos? Gr. Paul. As far as I know, the original is still in Mary's bank safe deposit box, unless she has given it to the Sixth Floor Museum. The one posted by Robin was scanned originally by me and was my best one. I posted it several years ago on Rich's Forum. Any scans of the Smith version came from me. Gordon was a photographer with about 50 years of experience. I do not know his special technique, but it involved using 4x5 film, filters, and special contrast controls in development of negative. But the main ingredient was his experience in copying old faded photos. Jack No Jack the Moorman posted by Robin is not the copy YOU had made. It is the 1967 THOMPSON copy. The Thompson number 1 print did not have the thumbprint. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Thanks Jack. If you have a better version of the original polaroid, would you mind posting it . Thanks. There are many versions. The two best are Thompson 1 and Weisberg 1. I have copy negatives but cannot readily lay my hands on prints. They are unfiled and packed in storage boxes. The Smith version is the best one with the thumbprint. Earlier copies do not have the thumbprint. The earliest copy is the Zippo copy. Jack That appears to be the Gordon Smith copy made from the ORIGINAL POLAROID. Gary Mack and I were present when Gordon copied it. All such copies can be traced to one I posted several years ago. I have Gordon's original and negative. Gordon was a Fort Worth photographer who had special techniques for copying old faded photos. Jack Jack, -Do you know where the ORIGINAL POLAROID is nowadays? -Do you have a very high resolution copy of that Gordon's original and can you post that one? -Can you explain the "special techniques" he used for copying old faded photos? Gr. Paul. As far as I know, the original is still in Mary's bank safe deposit box, unless she has given it to the Sixth Floor Museum. The one posted by Robin was scanned originally by me and was my best one. I posted it several years ago on Rich's Forum. Any scans of the Smith version came from me. Gordon was a photographer with about 50 years of experience. I do not know his special technique, but it involved using 4x5 film, filters, and special contrast controls in development of negative. But the main ingredient was his experience in copying old faded photos. Jack No Jack the Moorman posted by Robin is not the copy YOU had made. It is the 1967 THOMPSON copy. The Thompson number 1 print did not have the thumbprint. Jack I'm not sure how you are "numbering" the Moormans that Thompson owns but the IMAGE POSTED BY ROBIN is the copy Thompson had made in 1967 from the original polaroid. How do I know? The image posted by Robin is a match to the drum scan of the Thompson 1967 copy negative. PERIOD. For those interested a downsampled and levels corrected copy of the drum scan 1967 Thompson copy negative of the moorman is available here for a limited time. The file is 16"x13" at 300dpi. It is saved in lossless PNG format and is 17mb uncompressed. The file image can be found here: http://www.pbase.com/infocusinc/image/66990161/original Which brings us back to the fact that all of your posts the subject of the image Robin posted were nothing but crap...as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 (edited) Thank you Craig, very much appreciated. As is the opportunity to view some of your portfolio. Edited September 17, 2006 by John Dolva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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