COPA Dallas

[William Kelly]

Friends,

If you have not yet made your reservation for COPA's 12th annual

Regional Meeting to be held at the Hotel Lawrence in Dallas, TX from

November 17-19, with our regular Moment of Silence at the Grassy Knoll

on November 22, now is the time to do it.

The Hotel Lawrence is holding a block of rooms, both single and double,

at a special "COPA 2006" discount rate of $89 a night. The Hotel is

just off historic Dealey Plaza, with easy access to the Sixth Floor and

Conspiracy Museums and the East End restaurants and shops. Just call

214-761-9090 today and reserve a room. Conference registrations are

paid onsite at the event ($45 total, with day, student and "disinterested

spouse" rates available).

If you haven't made up your mind about coming this year, you should

bring a friend as well. We have a great lineup of speakers and films

planned. Here are the currently confirmed speakers:

Keynote: *Rep. Cynthia McKinney*

*Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D*. (with his latest work on the assassinations

and his upcoming book, "The Road to 9/11)

*Randy Benson* (Award-winning documentary filmmaker, showing excerpts

of his upcoming film on the assassination research community, "The

Seekers")

*Pat Sikora* (RFK assassination archivist, University of Massachusetts

at Dartmouth)

*Rex Bradford* (Digital archivist and researcher for Mary Ferrell's

website and the Assassination Archives and Research Center, with new

documents on the JFK case)

*Ben Rogers *(Archivist for the Penn Jones Collection at Baylor

University)*

*See their website at

http://www3.baylor.edu/Library/BCPM/JFK/Jones/PennJones.html

*Some may want to view or download this rare video interview between

Mark Lane and Penn Jones at

http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e97336swGjXbFN

*Sam Anderson* (Archivist from the Malcolm X Museum, a new collection

to be housed at the Audubon Ballroom where Malcolm X was assassinated).

*Chris Pike* (Researcher and author of upcoming book on Penn Jones with

his latest work)

*Michael Calder* (Author of "JFK v CIA" on both Kennedy assassinations)

*Sander Hicks* (Publisher and author of " The Big 9/11 Wedding: the

Whistleblowers and the Cover-up")

*Brad Ayers* (Former Army member detailed to CIA and DEA agent, author

of "The Zenith Secret" on the assassination of JFK)

*Garland Favorito* (Long time JFK researcher with new evidence)

Others still pending but seriously considering:

Dr. Cyril Wecht, JD, MD (Forensic expert on many assassinations, author

of "Grave Secrets" and "Mortal Evidence" and founding President of

COPA)

Walt Brown, (Researcher, author of "The Guns of Dallas Are Upon You"

and

"The Warren Ommission" and editor of "Deep Politics Quarterly," a

leading research publication.)

Sue Brenner (Nationally recognized Grand Jury expert on the process of

initiating one in the JFK case and how it would be conducted.)

Bill Kelly (Researcher and author, expert on JFK case, co-founder of

COPA)

So, I hope you are planning to attend our upcoming regional meeting of

the Coalition on Political Assassinations this November 17-19, with our

annual Moment of Silence on the Grassy Knoll if you can stick around

until the 22nd. Here's our schedule of events:

"Acts of State: Assassination as a Tool of Politics"

COPA Annual Regional Meeting

November 17-19

Hotel Lawrence, 302 S. Jackson

Dallas, TX (near the Grassy Knoll)

214-761-9090 (ask for COPA rates, $89 single/double per night), book

soon

Registration at the event $45 (day, student and spouse rates available)

Last Hurrah Books will have a room with books, films and resources

through the conference

Friday, Nov 17

3:00 pm – Early Bird gathering in Hotel Lawrence lobby

5:30 pm – Dinner and drinks at Café Bistro, Adolphus Hotel (shuttle

available)

7:30 – 9:30 pm – Keynote, Rep. Cynthia McKinney

10:00 pm – The Searchers – excerpts from Randy Benson’s film

documentary

on the researchers

Saturday, Nov 18

9:00 am – Noon and 2:00 – 5:00 pm – Hotel Lawrence, speakers

9:00 pm - ? - Hotel Lawrence - Latest DVD credible films on

assassinations and 9/11

Sunday, Nov 19

9:00 am – 1:00 pm - Speakers and discussion on COPA future and Hidden

History Museum in DC

1:30 pm - Late Bird meal at Antares restaurant, above Hyatt Reunion

Square, fixed price buffet $31

Monday, Nov 20

Visit to Penn Jones Collection at Baylor University

Wednesday, Nov 22

12:30 pm – Moment of Silence, Dealey Plaza, Grassy Knoll, commemorating

the assassination of President John F. Kennedy with speakers following.

Open to the public

Other invited speakers have sent regrets: Bill Turner, Dr. Gary

Aguilar,

Joan Mellen, Paris Flammonde, Dick Russell, John Kelin. Feel free to

coax them for next year.

COPA will also hold regional meetings on the 40th anniversaries of the

murders of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. (April 4) and Robert F.

Kennedy,

Jr. (June 6) in Memphis and Los Angeles in 2008. I'm thinking about a

new regional in New York on the anniversary of the assassination of

Malcolm X, maybe next year near the Audubon Theater where he was

killed.

COPA's regional meetings are gatherings of serious researchers, and we

try to present the most orginal and best documented analysis each year

from forensic experts, academics, authors and researchers working on

various political assassinations. Please join us and make your

reservations before the price goes up -

John Judge, for COPA

Legislative matters:

Also, here is the latest on legislation relating to our work introduced

by Rep. Cynthia McKinney:

This was just introduced this week:

H.RES.1026 [109th]

Title: For the re-opening of investigative hearings into the

Counter-Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) and other intelligence and

law

enforcement programs and agencies, and an expansion of those hearings

to

include renewal of previously curtailed abuses, and other activities

sanctioned by the USA PATRIOT ACT.

Sponsor: Rep McKinney, Cynthia A. [D-GA-4] (introduced 9/20/2006)

Cosponsors: (none)

Committees: House Intelligence (Permanent Select); House Judiciary

Latest Major Action: 9/20/2006 Referred to House committee. Status:

Referred

to the Committee on Intelligence (Permanent Select), and in addition to

the

Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined

by

the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall

within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

HR 2554, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Records Act of 2005 has

67 co-sponsors in the House, but needs more. A companion bill was

introduced to the Senate (S 2944) on April 4 by Senator John Kerry

(D-MA) and is also seeking co-sponsors and support. Twelve national

organizations and many prominent individuals have endorsed the

legislation.

However, after the death of Coretta Scott King, some of Dr. King's

children became reluctant to have the records released fearing there

would be negative personal information about their father revealed. We

attempted to propose some alternatives or to balance their fears with

the obvious unreliablity of the informant sources. We suggested having

a

family member be on the Review Board or the advisory committe, or an

amendment that would require purely personal information about Dr. King

unrelated to his political activties redacted or postponed until the

HSCA release date in 2028. Unfortunately, lacking an immediate

resolution, it does not look likely that the bill will pass this

session

on either side of Congress, but there is strong potential to get the

other sponsors to start over again next session and move the bill.

Unfortunatley, having been defeated in a runoff primary, Rep. McKinney

will be out of office. I will continue in my efforts to get this and

similarly modelled bills for release of information passed. It is our

only hope to reverse in small part a system that classified almost 15

million records (not pages, records) a year. John Dean said that if the

review of files classified for over 25 years ordered by President

Clinton had been implemented, it would have released one billion

records

classified between 1947-1975. JFK Records Act has released over 6.5

million pages so far, and the Nazi War Crimes Records Act has released

over 8.5 million so far. I went to a recent panel discussion by

Holocaust scholars using those files and it echoed our discussions of

the impact of the release of JFK files on our work. The panels also

echoed the names that all of us know and their roles during WWII,

including Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, John Sherman Cooper, General

Walter Dohrnberger and others.

Hope to see you in Dallas - John Judge

[Greg Parker]

Friends,

If you have not yet made your reservation for COPA's 12th annual

Regional Meeting to be held at the Hotel Lawrence in Dallas, TX from

November 17-19, with our regular Moment of Silence at the Grassy Knoll

on November 22, now is the time to do it.

The Hotel Lawrence is holding a block of rooms, both single and double,

at a special "COPA 2006" discount rate of $89 a night. The Hotel is

just off historic Dealey Plaza, with easy access to the Sixth Floor and

Conspiracy Museums and the East End restaurants and shops. Just call

214-761-9090 today and reserve a room. Conference registrations are

paid onsite at the event ($45 total, with day, student and "disinterested

spouse" rates available).

If you haven't made up your mind about coming this year, you should

bring a friend as well. We have a great lineup of speakers and films

planned. Here are the currently confirmed speakers:

Keynote: *Rep. Cynthia McKinney*

*Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D*. (with his latest work on the assassinations

and his upcoming book, "The Road to 9/11)

*Randy Benson* (Award-winning documentary filmmaker, showing excerpts

of his upcoming film on the assassination research community, "The

Seekers")

*Pat Sikora* (RFK assassination archivist, University of Massachusetts

at Dartmouth)

*Rex Bradford* (Digital archivist and researcher for Mary Ferrell's

website and the Assassination Archives and Research Center, with new

documents on the JFK case)

*Ben Rogers *(Archivist for the Penn Jones Collection at Baylor

University)*

*See their website at

http://www3.baylor.edu/Library/BCPM/JFK/Jones/PennJones.html

*Some may want to view or download this rare video interview between

Mark Lane and Penn Jones at

http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e97336swGjXbFN

*Sam Anderson* (Archivist from the Malcolm X Museum, a new collection

to be housed at the Audubon Ballroom where Malcolm X was assassinated).

*Chris Pike* (Researcher and author of upcoming book on Penn Jones with

his latest work)

*Michael Calder* (Author of "JFK v CIA" on both Kennedy assassinations)

*Sander Hicks* (Publisher and author of " The Big 9/11 Wedding: the

Whistleblowers and the Cover-up")

*Brad Ayers* (Former Army member detailed to CIA and DEA agent, author

of "The Zenith Secret" on the assassination of JFK)

*Garland Favorito* (Long time JFK researcher with new evidence)

Others still pending but seriously considering:

Dr. Cyril Wecht, JD, MD (Forensic expert on many assassinations, author

of "Grave Secrets" and "Mortal Evidence" and founding President of

COPA)

Walt Brown, (Researcher, author of "The Guns of Dallas Are Upon You"

and

"The Warren Ommission" and editor of "Deep Politics Quarterly," a

leading research publication.)

Sue Brenner (Nationally recognized Grand Jury expert on the process of

initiating one in the JFK case and how it would be conducted.)

Bill Kelly (Researcher and author, expert on JFK case, co-founder of

COPA)

So, I hope you are planning to attend our upcoming regional meeting of

the Coalition on Political Assassinations this November 17-19, with our

annual Moment of Silence on the Grassy Knoll if you can stick around

until the 22nd. Here's our schedule of events:

"Acts of State: Assassination as a Tool of Politics"

COPA Annual Regional Meeting

November 17-19

Hotel Lawrence, 302 S. Jackson

Dallas, TX (near the Grassy Knoll)

214-761-9090 (ask for COPA rates, $89 single/double per night), book

soon

Registration at the event $45 (day, student and spouse rates available)

Last Hurrah Books will have a room with books, films and resources

through the conference

Friday, Nov 17

3:00 pm – Early Bird gathering in Hotel Lawrence lobby

5:30 pm – Dinner and drinks at Café Bistro, Adolphus Hotel (shuttle

available)

7:30 – 9:30 pm – Keynote, Rep. Cynthia McKinney

10:00 pm – The Searchers – excerpts from Randy Benson’s film

documentary

on the researchers

Saturday, Nov 18

9:00 am – Noon and 2:00 – 5:00 pm – Hotel Lawrence, speakers

9:00 pm - ? - Hotel Lawrence - Latest DVD credible films on

assassinations and 9/11

Sunday, Nov 19

9:00 am – 1:00 pm - Speakers and discussion on COPA future and Hidden

History Museum in DC

1:30 pm - Late Bird meal at Antares restaurant, above Hyatt Reunion

Square, fixed price buffet $31

Monday, Nov 20

Visit to Penn Jones Collection at Baylor University

Wednesday, Nov 22

12:30 pm – Moment of Silence, Dealey Plaza, Grassy Knoll, commemorating

the assassination of President John F. Kennedy with speakers following.

Open to the public

Other invited speakers have sent regrets: Bill Turner, Dr. Gary

Aguilar,

Joan Mellen, Paris Flammonde, Dick Russell, John Kelin. Feel free to

coax them for next year.

COPA will also hold regional meetings on the 40th anniversaries of the

murders of Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. (April 4) and Robert F.

Kennedy,

Jr. (June 6) in Memphis and Los Angeles in 2008. I'm thinking about a

new regional in New York on the anniversary of the assassination of

Malcolm X, maybe next year near the Audubon Theater where he was

killed.

COPA's regional meetings are gatherings of serious researchers, and we

try to present the most orginal and best documented analysis each year

from forensic experts, academics, authors and researchers working on

various political assassinations. Please join us and make your

reservations before the price goes up -

John Judge, for COPA

Legislative matters:

Also, here is the latest on legislation relating to our work introduced

by Rep. Cynthia McKinney:

This was just introduced this week:

H.RES.1026 [109th]

Title: For the re-opening of investigative hearings into the

Counter-Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) and other intelligence and

law

enforcement programs and agencies, and an expansion of those hearings

to

include renewal of previously curtailed abuses, and other activities

sanctioned by the USA PATRIOT ACT.

Sponsor: Rep McKinney, Cynthia A. [D-GA-4] (introduced 9/20/2006)

Cosponsors: (none)

Committees: House Intelligence (Permanent Select); House Judiciary

Latest Major Action: 9/20/2006 Referred to House committee. Status:

Referred

to the Committee on Intelligence (Permanent Select), and in addition to

the

Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined

by

the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall

within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

HR 2554, the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. Records Act of 2005 has

67 co-sponsors in the House, but needs more. A companion bill was

introduced to the Senate (S 2944) on April 4 by Senator John Kerry

(D-MA) and is also seeking co-sponsors and support. Twelve national

organizations and many prominent individuals have endorsed the

legislation.

However, after the death of Coretta Scott King, some of Dr. King's

children became reluctant to have the records released fearing there

would be negative personal information about their father revealed. We

attempted to propose some alternatives or to balance their fears with

the obvious unreliablity of the informant sources. We suggested having

a

family member be on the Review Board or the advisory committe, or an

amendment that would require purely personal information about Dr. King

unrelated to his political activties redacted or postponed until the

HSCA release date in 2028. Unfortunately, lacking an immediate

resolution, it does not look likely that the bill will pass this

session

on either side of Congress, but there is strong potential to get the

other sponsors to start over again next session and move the bill.

Unfortunatley, having been defeated in a runoff primary, Rep. McKinney

will be out of office. I will continue in my efforts to get this and

similarly modelled bills for release of information passed. It is our

only hope to reverse in small part a system that classified almost 15

million records (not pages, records) a year. John Dean said that if the

review of files classified for over 25 years ordered by President

Clinton had been implemented, it would have released one billion

records

classified between 1947-1975. JFK Records Act has released over 6.5

million pages so far, and the Nazi War Crimes Records Act has released

over 8.5 million so far. I went to a recent panel discussion by

Holocaust scholars using those files and it echoed our discussions of

the impact of the release of JFK files on our work. The panels also

echoed the names that all of us know and their roles during WWII,

including Allen Dulles, John J. McCloy, John Sherman Cooper, General

Walter Dohrnberger and others.

Hope to see you in Dallas - John Judge

Bill, looks like a great line-up of speakers. I can only add that I hope Sue Brenner decides to go.

[William Kelly]

Friends,

If you have not yet made your reservation for COPA's 12th annual

Regional Meeting to be held at the Hotel Lawrence in Dallas, TX from

November 17-19, with our regular Moment of Silence at the Grassy Knoll

on November 22, now is the time to do it.

The Hotel Lawrence is holding a block of rooms, both single and double,

at a special "COPA 2006" discount rate of $89 a night. The Hotel is

just off historic Dealey Plaza, with easy access to the Sixth Floor and

Conspiracy Museums and the East End restaurants and shops. Just call

214-761-9090 today and reserve a room. Conference registrations are

paid onsite at the event ($45 total, with day, student and "disinterested

spouse" rates available).

If you haven't made up your mind about coming this year, you should

bring a friend as well. We have a great lineup of speakers and films

planned. Here are the currently confirmed speakers:

Keynote: *Rep. Cynthia McKinney*

*Peter Dale Scott, Ph.D*. (with his latest work on the assassinations

and his upcoming book, "The Road to 9/11)

*Randy Benson* (Award-winning documentary filmmaker, showing excerpts

of his upcoming film on the assassination research community, "The

Seekers")

*Pat Sikora* (RFK assassination archivist, University of Massachusetts

at Dartmouth)

*Rex Bradford* (Digital archivist and researcher for Mary Ferrell's

website and the Assassination Archives and Research Center, with new

documents on the JFK case)

*Ben Rogers *(Archivist for the Penn Jones Collection at Baylor

University)*

*See their website at

http://www3.baylor.edu/Library/BCPM/JFK/Jones/PennJones.html

*Some may want to view or download this rare video interview between

Mark Lane and Penn Jones at

http://www.veoh.com/videoDetails.html?v=e97336swGjXbFN

*Sam Anderson* (Archivist from the Malcolm X Museum, a new collection

to be housed at the Audubon Ballroom where Malcolm X was assassinated).

*Chris Pike* (Researcher and author of upcoming book on Penn Jones with

his latest work)

*Michael Calder* (Author of "JFK v CIA" on both Kennedy assassinations)

*Sander Hicks* (Publisher and author of " The Big 9/11 Wedding: the

Whistleblowers and the Cover-up")

*Brad Ayers* (Former Army member detailed to CIA and DEA agent, author

of "The Zenith Secret" on the assassination of JFK)

*Garland Favorito* (Long time JFK researcher with new evidence)

Others still pending but seriously considering:

Dr. Cyril Wecht, JD, MD (Forensic expert on many assassinations, author

of "Grave Secrets" and "Mortal Evidence" and founding President of

COPA)

Walt Brown, (Researcher, author of "The Guns of Dallas Are Upon You"

and

"The Warren Ommission" and editor of "Deep Politics Quarterly," a

leading research publication.)

Sue Brenner (Nationally recognized Grand Jury expert on the process of

initiating one in the JFK case and how it would be conducted.)

Bill Kelly (Researcher and author, expert on JFK case, co-founder of

COPA)

So, I hope you are planning to attend our upcoming regional meeting of

the Coalition on Political Assassinations this November 17-19, with our

annual Moment of Silence on the Grassy Knoll if you can stick around

until the 22nd. Here's our schedule of events:

"Acts of State: Assassination as a Tool of Politics"

COPA Annual Regional Meeting

November 17-19

Hotel Lawrence, 302 S. Jackson

Dallas, TX (near the Grassy Knoll)

214-761-9090 (ask for COPA rates, $89 single/double per night), book

soon

Registration at the event $45 (day, student and spouse rates available)

Last Hurrah Books will have a room with books, films and resources

through the conference

Friday, Nov 17

3:00 pm – Early Bird gathering in Hotel Lawrence lobby

5:30 pm – Dinner and drinks at Café Bistro, Adolphus Hotel (shuttle

available)

7:30 – 9:30 pm – Keynote, Rep. Cynthia McKinney

10:00 pm – The Searchers – excerpts from Randy Benson’s film

documentary

on the researchers

Saturday, Nov 18

9:00 am – Noon and 2:00 – 5:00 pm – Hotel Lawrence, speakers

9:00 pm - ? - Hotel Lawrence - Latest DVD credible films on

assassinations and 9/11

Sunday, Nov 19

9:00 am – 1:00 pm - Speakers and discussion on COPA future and Hidden

History Museum in DC

1:30 pm - Late Bird meal at Antares restaurant, above Hyatt Reunion

Square, fixed price buffet $31

Monday, Nov 20

Visit to Penn Jones Collection at Baylor University

Wednesday, Nov 22

12:30 pm – Moment of Silence, Dealey Plaza, Grassy Knoll, commemorating

the assassination of President John F. Kennedy with speakers following.

Open to the public

Hope to see you in Dallas - John Judge

Bill, looks like a great line-up of speakers. I can only add that I hope Sue Brenner decides to go.

Greg,

Whether Sue Brenner can make be there and make a presentation or not, we are pursuing the JFK Grand Jury Project and she will be assisting us in preparation and review of the first grand jury petition we will present to the North Texas Federal Court in Dallas, probably on Monday or Tuesday, Nov. 20-21.

Randy, whose documentary film about assassination researchers will be given a preliminary screening, will record the presentation of the petition to the court, though we don't expect a response for a few months.

In addition, an assistant federal prosecutor who thinks a RICO case can be made has said that he will try to make the COPA meetings/conference.

The court decision on the Morley vs. the CIA has given the Grand Jury Project momentum, as we can't wait another two years for an appeal decision, and will go forward with other legal alternatives, including Grand Jury petitions in North Texas Federal (Dallas), Louisiana and D.C., with the DC being the most likely chance of success. Other legal courses of action, including civil suit, RICO, Joint Cold Case Homicide/Assassination Task Force and local grand jury petitions in relevant jurisdictions are also being pursued and will be discussed and elaborated on in Dallas.

Bill Kelly

bkjfk3@yahoo.com

[Greg Parker]

Greg,

Whether Sue Brenner can make be there and make a presentation or not, we are pursuing the JFK Grand Jury Project and she will be assisting us in preparation and review of the first grand jury petition we will present to the North Texas Federal Court in Dallas, probably on Monday or Tuesday, Nov. 20-21.

Randy, whose documentary film about assassination researchers will be given a preliminary screening, will record the presentation of the petition to the court, though we don't expect a response for a few months.

In addition, an assistant federal prosecutor who thinks a RICO case can be made has said that he will try to make the COPA meetings/conference.

The court decision on the Morley vs. the CIA has given the Grand Jury Project momentum, as we can't wait another two years for an appeal decision, and will go forward with other legal alternatives, including Grand Jury petitions in North Texas Federal (Dallas), Louisiana and D.C., with the DC being the most likely chance of success. Other legal courses of action, including civil suit, RICO, Joint Cold Case Homicide/Assassination Task Force and local grand jury petitions in relevant jurisdictions are also being pursued and will be discussed and elaborated on in Dallas.

Bill Kelly

bkjfk3@yahoo.com

Bill, I'd say I was rooting for you, but my compatriots here might get the wrong impression (I'll let John D, the resident instructor on Aus slang explain)

In all sincerity though, I do hope these efforts get support where possible from not only the research community, but from people in all walks of life who may be interested in steering the ship around.

[John Dolva]

Thank you, Greg, that one was explained to me in high school by some Burmese friends who got it from some Brits. Having just arrived from Sweden I did appreciate the polite Oriental approach to explaining such delicate matters.

As far as "Other legal courses of action" goes, while not expecting anything, I think it wortwhile to take advantage of the avenues offered by seeing it as a civil rights issue. I believe it is fundamentally a hate crime with ties to the backers of the Evers assassination and perhaps if as much effort went into building a case of that nature as has been/is devoted to some of the other scenarios (it's smoky mirror image, the Jewish conspiracy, for example, and other flights of fancy), it can be successfully argued, and permit access to documantation and witnesses otherwise excluded.

[Thomas H. Purvis]

Thank you, Greg, that one was explained to me in high school by some Burmese friends who got it from some Brits. Having just arrived from Sweden I did appreciate the polite Oriental approach to explaining such delicate matters.

As far as "Other legal courses of action" goes, while not expecting anything, I think it wortwhile to take advantage of the avenues offered by seeing it as a civil rights issue. I believe it is fundamentally a hate crime with ties to the backers of the Evers assassination and perhaps if as much effort went into building a case of that nature as has been/is devoted to some of the other scenarios (it's smoky mirror image, the Jewish conspiracy, for example, and other flights of fancy), it can be successfully argued, and permit access to documantation and witnesses otherwise excluded.

Other legal courses of action"[/color] goes, while not expecting anything, I think it wortwhile to take advantage of the avenues offered by seeing it as a civil rights issue. I believe it is fundamentally a hate crime with ties to the backers of the Evers assassination and perhaps if as much effort went into building a case of that nature as has been/is devoted to some of the other scenarios (it's smoky mirror image, the Jewish conspiracy, for example, and other flights of fancy), it can be successfully argued, and permit access to documantation and witnesses otherwise excluded.

John;

You just may have found the crack in the door which would not only allow, but insure that a new avenue of investigation was pursued.

Nevertheless, one can not rule out the "money" incentive, which would have been LHO's primary reason for involvement.

[William Kelly]

Thank you, Greg, that one was explained

Other legal courses of action"[/color] goes, while not expecting anything, I think it wortwhile to take advantage of the avenues offered by seeing it as a civil rights issue. I believe it is fundamentally a hate crime with ties to the backers of the Evers assassination and perhaps if as much effort went into building a case of that nature as has been/is devoted to some of the other scenarios (it's smoky mirror image, the Jewish conspiracy, for example, and other flights of fancy), it can be successfully argued, and permit access to documantation and witnesses otherwise excluded.

John;

You just may have found the crack in the door which would not only allow, but insure that a new avenue of investigation was pursued.

Nevertheless, one can not rule out the "money" incentive, which would have been LHO's primary reason for involvement.

The possible legal courses of action are: Civil suit (with living victim James Tague, Oswald's daughters v. DPD, Libel); FOIA (ala COPA v. DOD, Morley v. CIA); Gand Jury Petition/Request - Dallas County, Texas State, Federal North Texas, La., DC; Joint Cold Case Political Assassination/Unsolved Homicide Task Force; RICO Action;

Did I miss any?

The assassination of Medgar Evers was solved by one determined assistant district attorney and the application of good police work.

And What is LHO's "money" incentive again? I don't understand that.

Thanks,

BK

Edited October 23, 2006 by William Kelly

[John Dolva]

"The possible legal courses of action are: Civil suit (with living victim James Tague, Oswald's daughters v. DPD, Libel); FOIA (ala COPA v. DOD, Morley v. CIA); Gand Jury Petition/Request - Dallas County, Texas State, Federal North Texas, La., DC; Joint Cold Case Political Assassination/Unsolved Homicide Task Force; RICO Action;

Did I miss any?"

"Posted on Fri, Oct. 20, 2006 - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/...miherald_nation

CIVIL RIGHTS - Bill could bring justice in old civil rights murder casesA measure before Congress, inspired by the unsolved murder of Emmett Till in 1955, would create a federal unit to investigate unresolved deaths from the civil rights era."

"The measure, also known as the Emmett Till bill, is part of a sweeping national effort to reconcile the ugliest crimes of the era, at least symbolically."

"It would create the Unsolved Crimes Section, a unit within the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, and an Unsolved Civil Rights Crime Investigative Office in the Civil Rights Unit of the FBI."

if it was seriously explored and not dismissed out of hand it could provide an avenue to documantation and witnesses.

-------------------

The Evers case has not been fully solved at all. Beckwith did finally get convicted about 10 years ago. The conspiracy has not been fully explored. Many people were involved to confuse the issue back in '63. It is actually a good study of how Oswald may have done if things had gone to trial. Rifle purchase, fingerprints, witnesses, alibis, etc. If he had had Beckwiths lawyer and jury he would have walked. It's amazing how similar the case was and the contortions of thinking that explained fingerprints and rifle puchase etc. Charles became one of Roberts close friends. Even so Beckwith walked free (then). He was backed by in court presence of such as General Walker and other prominent people.

Edited October 23, 2006 by John Dolva

[Thomas H. Purvis]

"The possible legal courses of action are: Civil suit (with living victim James Tague, Oswald's daughters v. DPD, Libel); FOIA (ala COPA v. DOD, Morley v. CIA); Gand Jury Petition/Request - Dallas County, Texas State, Federal North Texas, La., DC; Joint Cold Case Political Assassination/Unsolved Homicide Task Force; RICO Action;

Did I miss any?"

"Posted on Fri, Oct. 20, 2006 - http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/...miherald_nation

CIVIL RIGHTS - Bill could bring justice in old civil rights murder casesA measure before Congress, inspired by the unsolved murder of Emmett Till in 1955, would create a federal unit to investigate unresolved deaths from the civil rights era."

"The measure, also known as the Emmett Till bill, is part of a sweeping national effort to reconcile the ugliest crimes of the era, at least symbolically."

"It would create the Unsolved Crimes Section, a unit within the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, and an Unsolved Civil Rights Crime Investigative Office in the Civil Rights Unit of the FBI."

if it was seriously explored and not dismissed out of hand it could provide an avenue to documantation and witnesses.

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The Evers case has not been fully solved at all. Beckwith did finally get convicted about 10 years ago. The conspiracy has not been fully explored. Many people were involved to confuse the issue back in '63. It is actually a good study of how Oswald may have done if things had gone to trial. Rifle purchase, fingerprints, witnesses, alibis, etc. If he had had Beckwiths lawyer and jury he would have walked. It's amazing how similar the case was and the contortions of thinking that explained fingerprints and rifle puchase etc. Charles became one of Roberts close friends. Even so Beckwith walked free (then). He was backed by in court presence of such as General Walker and other prominent people.

Beckwith was one of the "good ole boy's", and thus carried popular support of the local populace. (unlike Che Guevarra).

And although there are great similiarities between the cases, there are also glaring differences.

LHO as a non-Dallasite, would not have had the local support, and this lack would have been further enhanced by his supposedly pro-marxists activities and beliefs.

The primary difference in evidence in the two cases lies in the rifles and the ability to directly tie the weapon to the reported shooter.

Other than the one reported partial print, the 6.5mm Carcano which was utilized, ABSOLUTELY can not be tied directly to LHO.

As we have discussed elsewhere, there are far too many problems with this, and one must thereafter look at the possibility that this too may have been an intentional ploy.

Had LHO gone to trial with a relatively good counsel who thereafter proved beyond doubt (with the FBI's own "found" evidence that LHO ordered and owned ONLY the shorter Carbine model of the rifle, then one can rest assured that "reasonable doubt" could have been generated.

Even with the backyard photo's.

All would have come out as merely being some ploy to convict the poor old boy who had gone to the soviet union.

Lastly, since LHO was apparantly highly involved in all of these aspects of his "squirrel" games, then one must assume that he was either a completely willing co-conspirator in the actual assassination, or else the single perpretrator.

In that regards "I am just a patsy" takes on considerable significance, as there must always be some game for the hounds to chase.

[William Kelly]

Tom,

Are you saying that LHO shot and killed JFK, wounded Connally and Tague, killed Tippit and tried to kill another cop because he thought he would get off with a light sentence and money was the motive?

I still don't get it?

And Steve, thanks for the Miami links to the Emmett Till Bill, pooling federal and state resources for a Joint Cold Case Task Force for Civil Rights murders of the 50s and 60s would certainly include JFK.

I think the Patriot Act is retro active and its law inforcement powers extend to all domestic acts of terrorism, which would also include JFK.

BK

[Thomas H. Purvis]

Tom,

Are you saying that LHO shot and killed JFK, wounded Connally and Tague, killed Tippit and tried to kill another cop because he thought he would get off with a light sentence and money was the motive?

I still don't get it?

And Steve, thanks for the Miami links to the Emmett Till Bill, pooling federal and state resources for a Joint Cold Case Task Force for Civil Rights murders of the 50s and 60s would certainly include JFK.

I think the Patriot Act is retro active and its law inforcement powers extend to all domestic acts of terrorism, which would also include JFK.

BK

1. LHO either fully accepted the position as shooter, or designated rabbit.

And, "money" is always a motive to those who have seen what it can gain, yet have no other means of acquiring it.

2. Due to his attempts at diversion by renting an apartment under an alias, as well as attempt at flight without having brought attention to himself, indications are that he had no intentions of being caught.

3. However, and as we all know, the "rifle trail", not unlike the Beckwith rifle, left a definitive trail and finger pointing directly at him. Yet, this trail would have been abruptly disrupted in a court of law if one assumes that LHO & others would have to state that what was ordered was a 37-inch Carbine, as opposed to the found 40-inch short rifle.

4. Therefore, a "trail to be found" was, apparantly and intentionally, left at the shooting position, not unlike the Beckwith (& other) events.

5. "Found" trails are usually considered far more believeable by the FBI/Crime Inforcement agencies, than are trails to which others point to in one way, shape, or manner.

Thus, when found, the human brain is highly subject to a form of "imprinting" which is often difficult to overcome.

6. The full aspect of Tippit's potential involvement has, and most likely will never be explained. Far too late now to follow the trail which caused Tippit to stop LHO.

7. As to LHO's "attempt" at killing another cop, the Tippit shooting should serve to indicate that LHO had little difficulty in shooting & killing anyone. Therefore any attempt to kill another cop in the theater would have been a mute point.

One, under most known circumstances, can only be put to death a single time, irrelevant as to the number of offenses.

8. LHO as the shooter, no doubt fully believed that he would escape. LHO as the rabbit, fully expected that he would be chased, and divert attention, and any "good" lawyer would have been able to get him off for the JFK portion of the crime.------Take whichever choice one accepts that the majority of the evidence points too.

[Guest]

I came across two VHS tapes with 17 hours of the COPA 2002 conference in the Harry Livingstone archival collection, and I am parking them in here, so for those interested...enjoy

 

Copa Meeting in Dallas 2002. John Judge 1:06 Walt Brown 1:19 and 4:29 John Turner 1:55 Gary Aguilar 3:38 Bill Kelley 4:40 Lisa Pease 5:20 and 7:49 Larry Teeter 5:57 Tink Thompson 6:38 Don Thomas 6:51 Jerry Smith 7:19

 

0:00 Bill Kelley, Robert Groden and Gary Aguilar. 1:21 Joe Biel and William Turner 2:21 Andy Kiel and William Turner. 3:15 T Carter, Lyndon Barsten and John Judge. 4:23 Chris Cox. 5:11 Parris Flamonde. 5:38 Michael Nurko, T Carter and Bill Kelley. 7:32 Dick Gregory

 

 

[Guest]

COPA 2004

Thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Bart Kamp

[Guest]

COPA 2008.

With thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Bart Kamp

[Guest]

Vincent Salndria - COPA Nov 21 1998 transcript.

Thanks to Malcolm Blunt, scans by me.