Two photos for those who accept "Magic Bullet" theory

[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

Look at the alignment of JFK and JBC in these photos. One bullet had to inflict all the wounds.

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

JFK and JBC in another view.

Rear view

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

In every photo JFK's jacket is bunched up also.

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

And another.

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

Front view

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[Pat Speer]

Richard, in my online presentation at the link below, i get into the "bunching" theory and show that the amount of bunching visible in the photos is nowhere near the amount necessary to raise the jacket entrance to the back of Kennedy's neck. Instead, it raises it to the level of the back wound on the autopsy photos, considerably too low to support the magic bullet theory unless Kennedy was leaning forward. And the Zapruder film proves he wasn't.

[Jack White]

Richard, in my online presentation at the link below, i get into the "bunching" theory and show that the amount of bunching visible in the photos is nowhere near the amount necessary to raise the jacket entrance to the back of Kennedy's neck. Instead, it raises it to the level of the back wound on the autopsy photos, considerably too low to support the magic bullet theory unless Kennedy was leaning forward. And the Zapruder film proves he wasn't.

The Zapruder film cannot be accepted as proof of anything.

Jack

[Cliff Varnell]

Instead, it raises it to the level of the back wound on the autopsy photos,

Pat, that would require both the shirt and the jacket to have elevated 2"

in tandem entirely above your alleged T1 inshoot, at the base of JFK's

neck.

But Altgens #5 shows a smooth jacket back and a jacket collar

only elevated about an inch.

The jacket collar rode ABOVE the top of the shirt collar but BELOW the

hairline.

His shirt collar was not visible in Altgens, but visible in the Elm St. photos:

ergo, the jacket dropped right before JFK was shot.

The Towner film clearly shows JFK's shirt collar at the back of his neck,

the jacket collar riding in a normal position toward the base of his neck.

http://www.jfk-online.com/Towner.mpg

JFK's jacket dropped in Dealey Plaza. The bullet holes in the clothes

align with T3, where the contemporaneous documents and witness

testimony place it.

Your bunch theory is nonsense, Pat, as is your insistence that more than a

dozen witnesses to the T3 back wound suffered a mass hallucination.

Anyone who claims that JFK's back wound was above T3 does not understand

the nature of this crime, nor the nature of it's cover-up.

[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

Just seconds before JFK hit.

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

Full photo

[Cliff Varnell]

Just seconds before JFK hit.

The implication here is a total non sequitar:

(1) The "high back wound" theory requires JFK's shirt and jacket to have

been elevated in tandem 2+".

(2) There were folds in JFK's jacket at Z161 (the Croft photo shown here).

(3) Therefore, JFK's clothing was elevated 2+".

This is nonsense. The jacket wasn't elevated more than a fraction of

an inch on Elm St.

By Z176 JFK's posture had changed, he'd turned his head to the right and

had started to wave his right arm.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z176.jpg

Betzner #3, taken at Z186, certainly trumps Croft -- and Betzner #3

shows a vertical/diagonal fold at the left base of JFK's neck.

A vertical fold means the fabric is pushed SIDEWAYS.

This vertical/diagonal fold in Betzner is similar to the diagonal fold

in the jacket on Main St., the photo on the left:

http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/sbt/tkoap.jpg

Same posture on Main St as in Betzner: JFK's head turned to the right, right arm

waving.

In the Main St. photo the shirt collar IS NOT VISIBLE.

At Betzner-Z186 the shirt collar IS VISIBLE.

The jacket DROPPED. The fabric was pushed SIDEWAYS.

JFK's back wound was at T3 and to contend otherwise is, in my opinion,

intellectually dishonest.

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[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

Cliff,if I understand you correctly, you are saying the bullet to the back never exited? That the now famous magic bullet was extracted from JFK's back the night of the autopsy?

[Cliff Varnell]

Cliff,if I understand you correctly, you are saying the bullet to the back never exited?

All I know is what they said at the autopsy -- the bullet didn't exit.

The bit about the bullet exiting didn't come up until later when it

became a political necessity to cover up the real nature of the crime.

That the now famous magic bullet was extracted from JFK's back the night of the autopsy?

I don't think any bullet was extracted from JFK's back.

[Guest Richard Bittikofer]

The "official x-ray" shows the bullet path high in the neck, not at T-3.

[Cliff Varnell]

The "official x-ray" shows the bullet path high in the neck, not at T-3.

That's a path from the throat entrance wound. Bruised the tip of the lung,

left a tiny fracture of the tip of the right T1 transverse process.

DID NOT EXIT.

It also left a field of small metallic debris.

Look, Richard, before we go into this I'd advise you consider that 95%

of what the first-day witnesses in Dealey, at Parkland, and at Bethesda

say is pure gold.

Listen to those who were there, Richard, never suppose many

people suffered mass hallucinations just because what they

say is inconvenient to your pet theories of the assassination.