ROBERT J MORRIS TIMELINE

[Greg Parker]

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Edited November 10, 2012 by Greg Parker

[James Richards]

The Army is tasked with evaluating the problem of Korean POWs who defected or collaborated with the enemy. One aim of this study was to establish a profile among 13 to 17 year olds most at risk of defecting in the future.(18) In charge of this study was Army Psychologist, Major William Mayer.(19) Mayer found that American youth susceptible to the techniques employed in Korea were emotionally weak and unable to withstand any form of physical or mental stress.(20) Morris became involved in this study through the Jenner Committee, which also conducted investigations into the problem. (Greg Parker)

Terrific stuff, Greg. Very interesting.

Do you know anything about a tape William Mayer made? It was concerning brainwashing techniques and was played at a meeting of the Dallas Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1837?

Also, do you have any information on what Mayer was doing at the American Embassy at the Scandinavian Alliance Mission in Kalgan?

Interesting to note that in late 1962, the Austin YAF group held a symposium with speakers Robert Morris, William Mayer, Russell Kirk and former J. Edgar Hoover assistant W. Cleon Skousen. That would have been one not to miss.

James

[Greg Parker]

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Edited November 10, 2012 by Greg Parker

[Robert Howard]

The Army is tasked with evaluating the problem of Korean POWs who defected or collaborated with the enemy. One aim of this study was to establish a profile among 13 to 17 year olds most at risk of defecting in the future.(18) In charge of this study was Army Psychologist, Major William Mayer.(19) Mayer found that American youth susceptible to the techniques employed in Korea were emotionally weak and unable to withstand any form of physical or mental stress.(20) Morris became involved in this study through the Jenner Committee, which also conducted investigations into the problem. (Greg Parker)

Terrific stuff, Greg. Very interesting.

Do you know anything about a tape William Mayer made? It was concerning brainwashing techniques and was played at a meeting of the Dallas Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1837?

Also, do you have any information on what Mayer was doing at the American Embassy at the Scandinavian Alliance Mission in Kalgan?

Interesting to note that in late 1962, the Austin YAF group held a symposium with speakers Robert Morris, William Mayer, Russell Kirk and former J. Edgar Hoover assistant W. Cleon Skousen. That would have been one not to miss.

James

James, I know Mayer wrote some articles on the subject, but haven't come across any reference to a tape. I also hadn't been able to put Mayer and Morris together, so thanks for that info.

As for being at the US Embassy at the Scandinavian Alliance Mission in Kalgan... depends what time-frame you're talking about. He was a Military Attache to the Embassy in China prior to WWII. This particular path leads to Pearl Harbor and the US entry into the war.

I now have the info on Morris for the 46-49 period, so edit/update coming.

Your work in compiling this timeline illustrates the very "high bar" of historical analysis that is, more than necessary if the myriad of theories, hypothesis and intertwining connections is translated into a definitive historical record of "what happened" with regard to 11/22/63.

I also have a question, concerning a somewhat unexplored area of the whole miasma of 6 Degrees of Separation. Are you aware of any encounters or interaction between Robert Morris and the Office of Security, particularly with reference to Otto Otepka?

The book "The Ordeal of Otto Otepka" is a very hard read for JFK Researchers in the sense that the author displays such a "anti-Democrat/Kennedy" bias that it makes IMO any factual assertions suspect. Nevertheless, the documentation of the problems re "security clearance's" for Walt Rostow, [and other individuals circa 1955-63] makes at the very least knowledge of the controversial nature of this issue a required area of study. Otepka's removal as THE individual who got the job done [at least as far the conservative's in the US Gov't were concerned] re the issuance of such security clearances is very much related to the assassination in the sense that Lee Harvey Oswald was a name familiar to the long ago abolished Office of Security, as well as peripheral areas concerning the Eastland Committee.

My own view re the assertions of the author, that [at least as far as allegations Walt Rostow was a Communist] was a purely political smear which is in hindsight, laughable but was by no means such in 1963.

Robert

[Jim Root]

Greg

Nice work.

Perhaps this will be of interest to you as well.

You wrote:

"1953

The Army is tasked with evaluating the problem of Korean POWs who defected or collaborated with the enemy. One aim of this study was to establish a profile among 13 to 17 year olds most at risk of defecting in the future.(22) In charge of this study was Army Psychologist, Major William Mayer.(23) Mayer found that American youth susceptible to the techniques employed in Korea were emotionally weak and unable to withstand any form of physical or mental stress.(24) Morris became involved in this study through the Jenner Committee, which also conducted investigations into the problem.(25) But the Chinese and Koreans had also been taking notes. They found early in the conflict that those from the southern states who had an unstable home life, and who, moreover, were raised in a female-dominated house, had high IQs, a thirst for information and an aversion to authority, should be made prime targets for Communist Party recruitment.(26) Oswald's partially falsified background, Youth House reports and truancy record [see following entries] thus made him a perfect candidate for both recruitment by the Communist Party, and as an infiltrator of such actions on behalf of the Morris-Moskoff student spy network.

April 13, 1953

By the time the Korean War and the investigation of POWs was underway, "the Office of Naval Research, the Air Force Psychological Warfare Division, and the CIA [and its fore-runner, OSS] had all attempted to develop methods of interrogation and de-brainwashing. On 10 April 1953, Secretary of State Dulles publicly noted that the UNC [united Nations Command] refused to torture captured soldiers and so possessed no human guinea pigs on which to experiment. Just three days later, however, [Allen] Dulles acted on aide Richard Helms's suggestion to form MKULTRA, a top-secret project to investigate whether and how it was possible to modify an individual's behavior by covert means."(27)"

You might want to add this little tidbit to your files:

In 1952/53 Edwin Anderson Walker held the position of Deputy Chief of Staff for Prisoners of War Affairs, 8th Army.

By the way it was not the first time that Walker found himself in the position of processing large numbers of human beings for the Army.

Jim Root

[Greg Parker]

The Army is tasked with evaluating the problem of Korean POWs who defected or collaborated with the enemy. One aim of this study was to establish a profile among 13 to 17 year olds most at risk of defecting in the future.(18) In charge of this study was Army Psychologist, Major William Mayer.(19) Mayer found that American youth susceptible to the techniques employed in Korea were emotionally weak and unable to withstand any form of physical or mental stress.(20) Morris became involved in this study through the Jenner Committee, which also conducted investigations into the problem. (Greg Parker)

Terrific stuff, Greg. Very interesting.

Do you know anything about a tape William Mayer made? It was concerning brainwashing techniques and was played at a meeting of the Dallas Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1837?

Also, do you have any information on what Mayer was doing at the American Embassy at the Scandinavian Alliance Mission in Kalgan?

Interesting to note that in late 1962, the Austin YAF group held a symposium with speakers Robert Morris, William Mayer, Russell Kirk and former J. Edgar Hoover assistant W. Cleon Skousen. That would have been one not to miss.

James

James, I know Mayer wrote some articles on the subject, but haven't come across any reference to a tape. I also hadn't been able to put Mayer and Morris together, so thanks for that info.

As for being at the US Embassy at the Scandinavian Alliance Mission in Kalgan... depends what time-frame you're talking about. He was a Military Attache to the Embassy in China prior to WWII. This particular path leads to Pearl Harbor and the US entry into the war.

I now have the info on Morris for the 46-49 period, so edit/update coming.

Your work in compiling this timeline illustrates the very "high bar" of historical analysis that is, more than necessary if the myriad of theories, hypothesis and intertwining connections is translated into a definitive historical record of "what happened" with regard to 11/22/63.

I also have a question, concerning a somewhat unexplored area of the whole miasma of 6 Degrees of Separation. Are you aware of any encounters or interaction between Robert Morris and the Office of Security, particularly with reference to Otto Otepka?

The book "The Ordeal of Otto Otepka" is a very hard read for JFK Researchers in the sense that the author displays such a "anti-Democrat/Kennedy" bias that it makes IMO any factual assertions suspect. Nevertheless, the documentation of the problems re "security clearance's" for Walt Rostow, [and other individuals circa 1955-63] makes at the very least knowledge of the controversial nature of this issue a required area of study. Otepka's removal as THE individual who got the job done [at least as far the conservative's in the US Gov't were concerned] re the issuance of such security clearances is very much related to the assassination in the sense that Lee Harvey Oswald was a name familiar to the long ago abolished Office of Security, as well as peripheral areas concerning the Eastland Committee.

My own view re the assertions of the author, that [at least as far as allegations Walt Rostow was a Communist] was a purely political smear which is in hindsight, laughable but was by no means such in 1963.

Robert

Robert, during his first stint with the Senate Subcommittee, it investigated the administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws. That would have caused considerable interaction with the Office of Security. Both Dennis Bartholemew and David Boylan have published articles which include significant information on the strong ties between Morris and Otepka.

[Greg Parker]

Greg

Nice work.

Perhaps this will be of interest to you as well.

You wrote:

"1953

The Army is tasked with evaluating the problem of Korean POWs who defected or collaborated with the enemy. One aim of this study was to establish a profile among 13 to 17 year olds most at risk of defecting in the future.(22) In charge of this study was Army Psychologist, Major William Mayer.(23) Mayer found that American youth susceptible to the techniques employed in Korea were emotionally weak and unable to withstand any form of physical or mental stress.(24) Morris became involved in this study through the Jenner Committee, which also conducted investigations into the problem.(25) But the Chinese and Koreans had also been taking notes. They found early in the conflict that those from the southern states who had an unstable home life, and who, moreover, were raised in a female-dominated house, had high IQs, a thirst for information and an aversion to authority, should be made prime targets for Communist Party recruitment.(26) Oswald's partially falsified background, Youth House reports and truancy record [see following entries] thus made him a perfect candidate for both recruitment by the Communist Party, and as an infiltrator of such actions on behalf of the Morris-Moskoff student spy network.

April 13, 1953

By the time the Korean War and the investigation of POWs was underway, "the Office of Naval Research, the Air Force Psychological Warfare Division, and the CIA [and its fore-runner, OSS] had all attempted to develop methods of interrogation and de-brainwashing. On 10 April 1953, Secretary of State Dulles publicly noted that the UNC [united Nations Command] refused to torture captured soldiers and so possessed no human guinea pigs on which to experiment. Just three days later, however, [Allen] Dulles acted on aide Richard Helms's suggestion to form MKULTRA, a top-secret project to investigate whether and how it was possible to modify an individual's behavior by covert means."(27)"

You might want to add this little tidbit to your files:

In 1952/53 Edwin Anderson Walker held the position of Deputy Chief of Staff for Prisoners of War Affairs, 8th Army.

By the way it was not the first time that Walker found himself in the position of processing large numbers of human beings for the Army.

Jim Root

Jim, thanks. I'm trying to update the timeline as new relevant info is found/received. This, to my mind, belongs in the timeline.

[Paul Brancato]

Greg - where is the Robert Morris timeline?

Can someone direct me to articles highlighting strong ties between Morris and Otepka?