George Smathers dead at 93

[James Richards]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

[Thomas H. Purvis]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

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Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

[Terry Mauro]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

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Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

**************************************************************

"Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce."

Hey Purv,

That name I bolded up there, has a familiar ring to it. Anybody we might know?

Curiously,

Ter

[Thomas H. Purvis]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

**************************************************************

"Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce."

Hey Purv,

That name I bolded up there, has a familiar ring to it. Anybody we might know?

Curiously,

Ter

Nah!

They are about like them damn rats. Keep showing up all over the place:

In LHO's notebook; in association with William D. Pawley; and here on this forum attempting to confuse everyone with the facts.

Note: See Medal of Honor Winner "Hugh Purvis" and or the USS Hugh Purvis if you want info on the Hugh Purvis side.

They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana.

[Thomas H. Purvis]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

**************************************************************

"Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce."

Hey Purv,

That name I bolded up there, has a familiar ring to it. Anybody we might know?

Curiously,

Ter

Nah!

They are about like them damn rats. Keep showing up all over the place:

In LHO's notebook; in association with William D. Pawley; and here on this forum attempting to confuse everyone with the facts.

Note: See Medal of Honor Winner "Hugh Purvis" and or the USS Hugh Purvis if you want info on the Hugh Purvis side.

They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana.

Since I know exactly where I was on 11/22/63, I would presume that the "Purvis" in LHO's notebook is most probably one of the New Orleans crowd (mostly from just up the road at Purvis, MS).

Or from the Texas pack, who are actually mostly a derivitive of the Louisiana crowd.

Whatever, this relative always comes to mind also.

http://www.ntx-asis10.org/Our%20Chapter.htm

Floyd Purvis, CPP 1957

1963 Floyd E. Purvis, CPP

Edited January 21, 2007 by Thomas H. Purvis

[Terry Mauro]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

**************************************************************

"Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce."

Hey Purv,

That name I bolded up there, has a familiar ring to it. Anybody we might know?

Curiously,

Ter

Nah!

They are about like them damn rats. Keep showing up all over the place:

In LHO's notebook; in association with William D. Pawley; and here on this forum attempting to confuse everyone with the facts.

Note: See Medal of Honor Winner "Hugh Purvis" and or the USS Hugh Purvis if you want info on the Hugh Purvis side.

They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana.

Since I know exactly where I was on 11/22/63, I would presume that the "Purvis" in LHO's notebook is most probably one of the New Orleans crowd (mostly from just up the road at Purvis, MS).

Or from the Texas pack, who are actually mostly a derivitive of the Louisiana crowd.

Whatever, this relative always comes to mind also.

http://www.ntx-asis10.org/Our%20Chapter.htm

Floyd Purvis, CPP 1957

1963 Floyd E. Purvis, CPP

**************************************************************

"They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana."

Anything else on the Mississippi and Alabama boys, Purv? Hog-stealing, huh? My Aunt Dorthy raises them in Wealty, outside of what used to be called Stepville, now known as Hanceville.

Interesting.

Ter

[Thomas H. Purvis]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/16508890.htm

James;

Was attempting to respond and got bumped off line.

The "Smathers" connection is an important one as it takes an individual who was extremely close to JFK, to the extent of apparantly been involved in some of the "women parties", and thereafter ultimately makes the direct connections to such as William Pawley as well as the "automatic vending" connection.

http://www.lagorcecc.com/fw/main/History-2.html

1945: The “New” La Gorce is born

Within 24 hours the “old” La Gorce Country Club was to be sold to real estate developers and a colorful era in Miami Beach was about to close. But that did not occur because several civic-minded men quickly raised $1 million and purchased the club. It was April 1945, and the “new” La Gorce was born; a colorful era was underway.

Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Among this grouping we find:

1. Frank Smathers

2. George Sally:-------------------------------Top lawyer for the sugar industry.

3. James Cox:-----Former Governor and and co-involvment in the Talisman Sugar Company Land of which Pawley was involved and of which was later sold to the US Government in order that the american taxpayers could pay for the environmental cleanup left behind by the sugar industry.

http://www.miamibeachfl.gov/NEWCITY/DEPTS/...oto_gallery.asp

Circa 1925 - B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.B&W photo taken on the deck on the old Roman Pools, 23rd Street and the Ocean, showing George Smathers, chairman of the board of the First National Bank in the 1960s, and his brother George, U.S. Senator at that time. Left to right are Frank Smathers, Lillian Eberwine, Billie Hutchinson, Charles “Tiny” Gound, Warren Locke, George Smathers, Ann Booker and Stanley Pederday.

Now!

Were there any way to make a direct tie between good ole George "D" and the Polo Club of La Gorce, then one just may have come up with something of importance.

**************************************************************

"Among those leaders were former Governor James Cox, William Pawley, Frank Smathers, Hugh Purvis, Paul Scott, George Sally, Carl Fisher, Arthur Pancoast, Van Kussrow, Dan Mahoney, James Buchanan, Oscar Dooly, and of course, Dr. John Oliver La Gorce."

Hey Purv,

That name I bolded up there, has a familiar ring to it. Anybody we might know?

Curiously,

Ter

Nah!

They are about like them damn rats. Keep showing up all over the place:

In LHO's notebook; in association with William D. Pawley; and here on this forum attempting to confuse everyone with the facts.

Note: See Medal of Honor Winner "Hugh Purvis" and or the USS Hugh Purvis if you want info on the Hugh Purvis side.

They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana.

Since I know exactly where I was on 11/22/63, I would presume that the "Purvis" in LHO's notebook is most probably one of the New Orleans crowd (mostly from just up the road at Purvis, MS).

Or from the Texas pack, who are actually mostly a derivitive of the Louisiana crowd.

Whatever, this relative always comes to mind also.

http://www.ntx-asis10.org/Our%20Chapter.htm

Floyd Purvis, CPP 1957

1963 Floyd E. Purvis, CPP

**************************************************************

"They were apparantly the "good side" of the family, and unlike the hog-stealing bunch, were not chased until they ended up in Alabama; Mississippi; and Louisiana."

Anything else on the Mississippi and Alabama boys, Purv? Hog-stealing, huh? My Aunt Dorthy raises them in Wealty, outside of what used to be called Stepville, now known as Hanceville.

Interesting.

Ter

Just old Will, my grandfathers first cousin , who was reportedly a "white-capper", hanged for murder and survived.

Just like damn rats, can't hardly kill one!

http://www.trivia-library.com/b/guilty-or-...erer-part-1.htm

Not exactly the "family story" as to how it happened!

http://genforum.genealogy.com/purvis/

Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - George Purvis 5/14/06

Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - Rosemary Purvis-Lesher 5/15/06

Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - George Purvis 5/15/06

Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - David Carlton 6/08/06

Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - George Purvis 6/09/06

[Terry Mauro]

"Re: To Terry who has "The True Life Story of Will Purvis" - Rosemary Purvis-

Lesher 5/15/06"

Now, I'll be darned if I didn't just read a last name like that one in the "Miami" link back there?

This is getting more interesting by the minute, Purv. Thanks.

Ter

[John Simkin]

See also:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/1/22/110143.shtml

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/16515763.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245227,00.html

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/pal...=sfla-news-palm

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/us/21smathers.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7012100143.html

[William Kelly]

George Armistead Smathers. Born 13 Nov. 1913, Atlantic City, N.J., Father a federal jduge, uncle a U.S. Senator, moved to Miami because of his father's health in 1919..."

Atlantic City in those days - John Martino's old hood, was gangbusting cops and robbers....

I wonder what happened when GASmathers went home to AC for the 1964 Democratic National Convention. There always was and always will be a tight connection between the Jersey Shore and Florida, mutual seasonal playgrounds.

Lansky was originaly a Jersey guy who bought off the Sheriff in Florida before he went to Havana.

While Atlantic City always came under the unofficial jurisdiction of the Philadelphia mob, it was an open city for investments and meetings, run by a succession of political-mob bosses - Nucky Johnson, Hap Farley, Nicky Scarfo, Crazy Phil Leonetti (Who once threatened to kill me), and now a new breed of "clean" guys who can work with the casino crowd.

Until he died I didn't know Smathers was from Atlantic City, and now I am interested in getting some more background on his father the judge and uncle, the Senator, ostensibly from New Jersey.

If anybody can get anything on those guys I'd appreciate it. I don't even have their names, as the obits just repeat the same thing.

Thanks,

Bill Kelly

bkjfk3@yahoo.com

[James Richards]

Bill,

The uncle was Senator William Howell Smathers. Interesting to note is that one of the uncle's political sponsors was Joe Fay who before he was convicted of extortion, was the vice president of the International Operating Engineers Union.

James

[William Kelly]

Bill,

The uncle was Senator William Howell Smathers. Interesting to note is that one of the uncle's political sponsors was Joe Fay who before he was convicted of extortion, was the vice president of the International Operating Engineers Union.

James

Thanks for that JR, WHS, must have made his mark somewhere. Extortion convictions are just part of doing business in Jersey.

I'm going to try to find out more about Smathers in the 64 election. Having the convention in Atlantic City was part of the Kennedy program - with Sinatra, Skinny D'Amato (W. Virginia/Giancana/CalNeva) and the Rat Pack renominating their Prince on the home turf - but the spoils went to spoils - in Dallas.

When LBJ came to AC for the Convention where he was handed the nomination for the presidency, he was paranoid RFK would try to steal it from him at the last minute, and made precautinary moves against that happening. Especially after the tear jerker film on JFK.

In AC, LBJ stayed at the downbeach home of Carroll Rosenbloom, the owner of the Baltimore Colts football team, who is said to have died suspiciously while swimming in Florida. Rosenbloom was a BIG gambler and reputed to be Mike McLaney's partner in the Hotel National in Havava, having purchased the place from Meyer Lansky shortly before Castro came to town.

Rosenbloom also traded the Baltimore Colts even up for the LA Rams - later moved to St. Louis, while the Colts moved to Indiana - and then Rosenbloom mysteriously drowned on a deserted beach in Florida.

I'm pretty shore there was an Atlantic City connection between Smathers and Rosenbloom, and the Cuban-AC connection, but I can't put my finger on it, yet.

BK

[Thomas H. Purvis]

As a "Howell" descendent, perhaps my family tree is also of some importance?

Name: Variana Anne Banks HOWELL

Given Name: Variana Anne Banks

Surname: HOWELL

Sex: F

Birth: 7 MAY 1826 in Morango Plantation, LA

Death: 16 OCT 1906 in New York

Event: She was the First and only "First Lady of the South" between 1861 and 1865. Misc

Marriage 1 Jefferson Finis Davis

Father: William Burr HOWELL b: 22 FEB 1797 in Trenton, Mercer, NJ

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Name: Laura Mollie White HOWELL

Given Name: Laura Mollie White

Surname: HOWELL

Sex: F

Birth: 29 MAY 1855 in Haywood Co, NC

Death: 28 JUL 1949 in Haywood Co, NC

Burial: Greenhill Cem, Haywood Co, NC

Marriage 1 Benjamin Franklin SMATHERS b: 3 AUG 1852 in Buncombe Co, NC

Children

Name: Benjamin Franklin SMATHERS

Given Name: Benjamin Franklin

Surname: SMATHERS

Suffix: Jr.

Sex: M

Title: Jr.

Birth: 18 OCT 1881 in Haywood Co, NC

Death: 8 JUL 1970

Marriage 1 Laura F. Jones b: OCT 1885 in ------, VA

Married: 7 OCT 1908 in Haywood Co, NC

http://www.nndb.com/people/954/000095669/

George Smathers

AKA George Armistead Smathers

Father: Franklin Smathers, Sr. (federal judge)

Mother: Laura F. Jones

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Major Joseph HOWELL b: 1700 in Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, England

Now! In event that one follows the family tree of Varina Howell Davis, Wife of Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America, they will find they lead directly back to Major Joseph Howell of Buckinghamshire, England.

Also, in event that one will follow the family tree of Laurei Mollie Howell Smathers, grandmother to Senator George Smathers, they will find that the tree leads to the exact same place.

In reality, George Smathers was a cousin to Varina Howell Davis, wife of the President of the Confederate States of America.

Tom Purvis

great grandson of James Thomas Howell

[James Richards]

Bill,

The uncle was Senator William Howell Smathers. Interesting to note is that one of the uncle's political sponsors was Joe Fay who before he was convicted of extortion, was the vice president of the International Operating Engineers Union.

James

Thanks for that JR, WHS, must have made his mark somewhere. Extortion convictions are just part of doing business in Jersey.

I'm going to try to find out more about Smathers in the 64 election. Having the convention in Atlantic City was part of the Kennedy program - with Sinatra, Skinny D'Amato (W. Virginia/Giancana/CalNeva) and the Rat Pack renominating their Prince on the home turf - but the spoils went to spoils - in Dallas.

When LBJ came to AC for the Convention where he was handed the nomination for the presidency, he was paranoid RFK would try to steal it from him at the last minute, and made precautinary moves against that happening. Especially after the tear jerker film on JFK.

In AC, LBJ stayed at the downbeach home of Carroll Rosenbloom, the owner of the Baltimore Colts football team, who is said to have died suspiciously while swimming in Florida. Rosenbloom was a BIG gambler and reputed to be Mike McLaney's partner in the Hotel National in Havava, having purchased the place from Meyer Lansky shortly before Castro came to town.

Rosenbloom also traded the Baltimore Colts even up for the LA Rams - later moved to St. Louis, while the Colts moved to Indiana - and then Rosenbloom mysteriously drowned on a deserted beach in Florida.

I'm pretty shore there was an Atlantic City connection between Smathers and Rosenbloom, and the Cuban-AC connection, but I can't put my finger on it, yet.

BK

Bill,

If I remember correctly, when Moe Dalitz wanted to sell his interest in the Hotel Nacional, McLaney wanted to buy it and Rosenbloom personally gave him something like $250,000 for it.

Also going by memory here, Rosenbloom was connected to Lansky through Max Orovitz (long time Lansky associate), both men being major stockholders of General Development Corporation.

One more curiosity, on November 29, 1963 when the Kennedy family all met for Thanksgiving in Hyannis Port, Stephen Smith flew in aboard a private plane owned by Rosenbloom.

FWIW.

James

[John Simkin]

It is strange how many of these obituaries use virtually exactly the same words. It is as if the writers have received a press release from the Smathers family. Maybe it just came from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Smathers

However, I like this passage that dealt with the 1950 election to the Senate:

The congressman badgered incumbent Sen. Claude Pepper on his support of civil rights and charged his pleas for patience with the Soviet Union made him a communist sympathizer. Scurrilous statements were uttered on both sides of the campaign, but the most famous remarks - innocuous declarations delivered to less-educated audiences to appear scandalous - may have never been uttered.

"Do you know that Claude Pepper is known all over Washington as a shameless extrovert?" he was quoted as saying. "Not only that, but this man is reliably reported to practice nepotism with his sister-in-law and he has a sister who was once a thespian in wicked New York. Worst of all, it is an established fact that Mr. Pepper, before his marriage, habitually practiced celibacy."