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It's a team of gymnasts, Chris. The others, suspended by wire on the cupola wall in front of the 'windows', are synchronised.

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Hey Joe, get down.

Why?

Nix might get you on film.

Don't worry about it, we'll just say it's lights and shadows.

OK. Keep doing your pushups.

RIGHT

chris

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Fascinating capture, Chris. Damn.

Does anyone know how many seconds this is after Z313?

Thanks,

--Thomas

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Hey Joe, get down.

Why?

Nix might get you on film.

Don't worry about it, we'll just say it's lights and shadows.

OK. Keep doing your pushups.

RIGHT

chris

The camera movement has bent the sunspots on the shelter wall between frames. This has given off the illusion of movement. Look to the right of the box in your clip and watch the same thing happen to the illuminated parts of the colonnade.

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Hey Joe, get down.

Why?

Nix might get you on film.

Don't worry about it, we'll just say it's lights and shadows.

OK. Keep doing your pushups.

RIGHT

chris

Personally, I find James Altgen's camera bag of considerably more interest as it gives us a second & cross-view of some important positions of individuals.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z344.jpg

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Hey Joe, get down.

Why?

Nix might get you on film.

Don't worry about it, we'll just say it's lights and shadows.

OK. Keep doing your pushups.

RIGHT

chris

The camera movement has bent the sunspots on the shelter wall between frames. This has given off the illusion of movement. Look to the right of the box in your clip and watch the same thing happen to the illuminated parts of the colonnade.

I'm sorry,

I should have compared it to another version.

Let's take a look at both.

Oops, my guy moves in the opposite direction as the sunspots do.

O.K.

Let's also take a look at a woman in the audience.

She's running so quickly, her arm is falling off.

This is a few frames before my guy Joe ducks for cover. What a coincidence.

chris

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I'm sorry,

I should have compared it to another version.

Let's take a look at both.

Oops, my guy moves in the opposite direction as the sunspots do.

I think the sunspots bend in the same manner. One such place that I didn't mark can be seen directly beow the two red arrows on the right side of the frame. The faint sunspot moves in correlation with the other sunspot ... all occurring about 45 seconds after the shooting.

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I'm sorry,

I should have compared it to another version.

Let's take a look at both.

Oops, my guy moves in the opposite direction as the sunspots do.

I think the sunspots bend in the same manner.

What direction do the sunspots move in Groden's version?

2 different films, same spot moves in opposite directions.

And for those interested, here's another version of our running lady and that incredible arm and sliding sleeve.

Or is it glare from the tire rim.

I'm a little confused.

chris

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And for those interested, here's another version of our running lady and that incredible arm and sliding sleeve.

Or is it glare from the tire rim.

I'm a little confused.

chris

Chris, there really is no confusion. Look at her right hand. It *appears* at the same time her left arm *disappears* -- and this happens because she is running. Her arms are moving as she moves. Don't you think so?

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Chris, there really is no confusion. Look at her right hand. It *appears* at the same time her left arm *disappears* -- and this happens because she is running. Her arms are moving as she moves. Don't you think so?

.................. And her upper body is twisting to her right slightly. In the Lancer archives somewhere there should be some pretty good stabilized images shpowing he sunspots being bent in the Groden images. The title of the thread was under 'Classic Gunman' as I recall.

BTW, I hope she isn't running in high heels! post-1084-1170294041_thumb.gif

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Chris, there really is no confusion. Look at her right hand. It *appears* at the same time her left arm *disappears* -- and this happens because she is running. Her arms are moving as she moves. Don't you think so?

.................. And her upper body is twisting to her right slightly. In the Lancer archives somewhere there should be some pretty good stabilized images shpowing he sunspots being bent in the Groden images. The title of the thread was under 'Classic Gunman' as I recall.

BTW, I hope she isn't running in high heels! post-1084-1170294041_thumb.gif

Chris, I gave this topic a bump because I'm curious - do you still see her arm disappear? Or do you buy the explanation that she simply moved it as she ran? Just curious.

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