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Let us know when you have those up Bill.

I touched on this on Len's show this week.

But after you have those new interviews up maybe you should go on since this is really important I think in the case.

According to the Encyclopedia of the U S Military - Arkin, Handler, Morrissey Walsh.......

MYSTIC STAR - Code name for the high frequency communication system used aboard Air Force One and other VIP aircraft

operated by the 89th Military Air Wing, Andrews AFB, MD. The original Mystic Star system became operational in 1967.

Updates of the system began in 1985. Whereas the original system had only 100 phone lines and 5 data circuits

available for its special air missions, the improved.......

[Air Force, Standard Procedures for Operation of USAF Global Command System Stations,

AFCC R100-20, 1 May 1984 released under the FOIA]. (see also NATIONWIDE)

END

Nationwide

The Nationwide or "Echo-Foxtrot" system was an Air Force One half-duplex single channel FM voice communications network that included about 100 sites located on AT&T microwave relay towers throughout the US, tied by leased voice channels to manual switchboard at White House ("Crown Control"). The network used 415.700 MHZ downlink and 407.85 MHZ uplink to Air Force One at rather low EIRP's (less than a few watts).

from fas.org

Regarding Arthur Collins in Dallas, that was a new one on me, although to be honest the bio doesen't seem to be too

candid about residential matters, ahem.

I don't have a match for the Preston Road address, but that is not to say it is inaccurate, I mean I wasn't there

and phone books are not bound by legalities....

There was a

Arthur A. Collins 13739 Danvers Ln AD9-2816

but whether that was/is him, I couldn't say.....

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Let us know when you have those up Bill.

I touched on this on Len's show this week.

But after you have those new interviews up maybe you should go on since this is really important I think in the case.

According to the Encyclopedia of the U S Military - Arkin, Handler, Morrissey Walsh.......

MYSTIC STAR - Code name for the high frequency communication system used aboard Air Force One and other VIP aircraft

operated by the 89th Military Air Wing, Andrews AFB, MD. The original Mystic Star system became operational in 1967.

Updates of the system began in 1985. Whereas the original system had only 100 phone lines and 5 data circuits

available for its special air missions, the improved.......

[Air Force, Standard Procedures for Operation of USAF Global Command System Stations,

AFCC R100-20, 1 May 1984 released under the FOIA]. (see also NATIONWIDE)

END

Nationwide

The Nationwide or "Echo-Foxtrot" system was an Air Force One half-duplex single channel FM voice communications network that included about 100 sites located on AT&T microwave relay towers throughout the US, tied by leased voice channels to manual switchboard at White House ("Crown Control"). The network used 415.700 MHZ downlink and 407.85 MHZ uplink to Air Force One at rather low EIRP's (less than a few watts).

from fas.org

Regarding Arthur Collins in Dallas, that was a new one on me, although to be honest the bio doesen't seem to be too

candid about residential matters, ahem.

I don't have a match for the Preston Road address, but that is not to say it is inaccurate, I mean I wasn't there

and phone books are not bound by legalities....

There was a

Arthur A. Collins 13739 Danvers Ln AD9-2816

but whether that was/is him, I couldn't say.....

Thanks Robert, so they didn't call it Mystic Star until 1967 but they had a similar system in use at the time of the assassination.

BK

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JFKcountercoup: Carl Mather & Collins Radio

MATHER, CARL, AMOS – Former neighbor of J.D. Tippit;employed at Collins Radio Co., in Richardson, T; question re: his auto (1957 Plymouthlicense pp 4537) at El Chico, (re Wes Wise) then same car at Tippit's home 11/22/63. SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS

180-10087-10360

180-10108-10138

7-pages "Postponed in Full" Box 254

Carl Amos Mather

3/20/78

Route 2, Box 228

Piano, Texas

Residence

Interview:

Have known the J.D. Tippit family since they were neighbors in 1958 on the 1900-2000 block of Glendfield, in Dallas.

Before the Mathers moved to Garland, Texas, in 11/61, they had become good friends with the Tippits. Each family had three children and the ages were similar. Carl and Barbara would double date on occasion, usually visiting a "family-type Club" involving an inexpensive evening. Never any trouble between anyone in either family, nor were they aware of any the Tippits had with anyone else.

Their impression of J.D. was that of a hard working man determined to provide for his family in spite of the lack of potential for advancement. Knew he took various odd jobs to augment his income and seemed to spend what little free time he had with his family. Marie helped out by babysitting for 5 to 7 children on somewhat of a regular basis. On occasion, the Mather kids would be included.

Hard put to recall other Tippit friends or associates in the neighborhood; they do recall "Frank and Angie" living next door to J.D. and Marie, but can't recall their surname.

Wes Wise, the ex-mayor, was a sports announcer at that timeand it seems he had a speaking engagement at "some restaurant in Dallasa short time after the assassination."

He (Wise) was told by "a man" who had in his employ a mechanic who was also a part-time deputy of some nature, that this employee, on the day of the assassination, had observed a suspicious "red ford car" spinning it's wheels and throwing gravel behind a parked bus. The mechanic utilized his "deputy training" and jotted down the tag number and now "this man" was giving it to Wise.

So Wise was calling him, advising him of these developments and inviting him to dinner in as much as there was another person from the news media in New York, now in Dallas with Wise to do a documentary on the entire assassination and any interesting asides.

He and his wife met Wise and Dana Bartell, "from the N.Y., wire service" in the Old Warsaw Restaurant located in Oak Lawn. Dinner and discussion of these curious events didn't seem to accomplish much,as they came away without understanding how that mechanic could have written down the tag listed to "Carl's '57 Plymouth."

(Barbara was driving an old Ford station wagon, early '50's, white over faded blue at the time).

Several months later saw the documentary on TV with her name listed in the credits, but no mention of the tag number episode.

Although they don't recall the exact date of this dinner, it was so long after the incident, the new tags had since been issued and the old ones discarded. Moreover, it hadn't impressed him as being important enough to ask someone to check for him. After all, the F.B.I. had apparently dropped the matter.

Asked to describe the F.B.I.'s efforts, Barbara said that one day an agent came to the house. This was at 4309 Colgate Lane, the Garland address they moved from 2018 Garlandin 11/61, and he inquired about their tags. She pointed out her tags on the old Ford station wagon and advised Carl had the '57 Plymouth at work.

No, they never owned a red auto of any type. Again she doesn't recall the date, but it was when the newer tags were in effect anyway. She didn't hear from the agent again and Carl didn't hear at all.

What seemed like six weeks later, a second agent came to the same house and interviewed Barbara – again at home alone during the day – and he, too, was interested in the fact that a tag listed to Carl was observed on a different type of vehicle in a different part of town.

When she indicted the first agent didn't understand it, either, he seemed surprised another agent had been ahead of him. This seemed tocause his interest in the matter to wane and he left. Like the first agent, hedidn't return, nor did he interview Carl.

Not that Carl isn't used to being interviewed by governmentagents; he has a security clearance – and he has had since he started travelingwith his company – he's been with them for 21 years now. Has traveled overseas. His specific function deals with the installation of special electronics gear in aircraft. One such assignment caused him to be quartered in Brandywine, Maryland as he worked for some period of time at Andrews Air Force Base working on "Air Force Two" – Vice President Johnson's plane at the time.

He adds he does recall the date of 11-22-63. He worked all day at Richardson, Texas, Collins Radio Shop. Although the (then) boss, J.A. Pickford, has since retired, he thinks he's still in the area.

PICKFORD, JAMES

JFK ASSASSINATIONS SYSTEM ID FORM

HSCA

RIF: 180-10113-10265

REACTION TO ASSASSINATION, CARL MATHER,

KENNEDY, JOHN; ASSASSINATION

OUTSIDE CONTACT REPORT

OPEN IN FULL

08/12/93

BOX 256

12/1/78

Telephone contact

Summary: I made contact with Mr. Pickford on this date and received the following information, after I identified myself and told of our interest in developing a list of all witnesses in the JFK assassination. He recalls that he represented management with Collins Radio and had lunch inside with union representatives on 11/22/63in view of the on going discussions. After lunch, word came of the assassination and was initially regarded as a course joke. Later verification brought about general dismay and all employees were excused. He stated, "It was plain to see that no one was going to do any work. It only remained to determine the pay status." A few employees hung around, but most of them left.

With regard to Carl Mather, Pickford can't recall where he was at the time of the assassination. He knows he didn't have lunch with him. His job at the time concerned electro-mechanical assembly, which is the mechanical portion of working with electronic equipment. They worked in a shop atmosphere but it was not an assembly-line type function. There was more moving around then in an assembly-line production.

However, assigning people outside the complex was seldom done. This entailed union involvement and was an unusual occurrence. Pickfordis certain that no such assignment existed on 11/22/63. That day is still vivid in his mind.

Asked if anyone might be assigned to the Oak Cliff area at any time, Pickford answered that they had no subsidiaries there, but prior to1959 they did have such a location at Red Bird Airport.Oak Cliff is between Richardson and Red Bird.

Pickford was unable to say whether Mather even worked that particular day. He suggested contacting Collins personnel but doubts if records from 1963 would still be available.

Pickford says he retired from Collins Radio in 1972 and has since become associated with another firm.

Pickford's impression of Mather is that he was the most competent, dependable man deserving of the highest trust. He considered him outstanding.

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JFKcountercoup: Carl Mather & Collins Radio

Greg Parker has posted the original documents here: (Thanks Greg)

Bill Kelly HSCA Collection - Reopen KENNEDY CASE!

MATHER, CARL, AMOS – Former neighbor of J.D. Tippit;employed at Collins Radio Co., in Richardson, T; question re: his auto (1957 Plymouthlicense pp 4537) at El Chico, (re Wes Wise) then same car at Tippit's home 11/22/63. SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS

180-10087-10360

180-10108-10138

7-pages "Postponed in Full" Box 254

Carl Amos Mather

3/20/78

Route 2, Box 228

Piano, Texas

Residence

Interview:

Have known the J.D. Tippit family since they were neighbors in 1958 on the 1900-2000 block of Glendfield, in Dallas.

Before the Mathers moved to Garland, Texas, in 11/61, they had become good friends with the Tippits. Each family had three children and the ages were similar. Carl and Barbara would double date on occasion, usually visiting a "family-type Club" involving an inexpensive evening. Never any trouble between anyone in either family, nor were they aware of any the Tippits had with anyone else.

Their impression of J.D. was that of a hard working man determined to provide for his family in spite of the lack of potential for advancement. Knew he took various odd jobs to augment his income and seemed to spend what little free time he had with his family. Marie helped out by babysitting for 5 to 7 children on somewhat of a regular basis. On occasion, the Mather kids would be included.

Hard put to recall other Tippit friends or associates in the neighborhood; they do recall "Frank and Angie" living next door to J.D. and Marie, but can't recall their surname.

Wes Wise, the ex-mayor, was a sports announcer at that timeand it seems he had a speaking engagement at "some restaurant in Dallasa short time after the assassination."

He (Wise) was told by "a man" who had in his employ a mechanic who was also a part-time deputy of some nature, that this employee, on the day of the assassination, had observed a suspicious "red ford car" spinning it's wheels and throwing gravel behind a parked bus. The mechanic utilized his "deputy training" and jotted down the tag number and now "this man" was giving it to Wise.

So Wise was calling him, advising him of these developments and inviting him to dinner in as much as there was another person from the news media in New York, now in Dallas with Wise to do a documentary on the entire assassination and any interesting asides.

He and his wife met Wise and Dana Bartell, "from the N.Y., wire service" in the Old Warsaw Restaurant located in Oak Lawn. Dinner and discussion of these curious events didn't seem to accomplish much,as they came away without understanding how that mechanic could have written down the tag listed to "Carl's '57 Plymouth."

(Barbara was driving an old Ford station wagon, early '50's, white over faded blue at the time).

Several months later saw the documentary on TV with her name listed in the credits, but no mention of the tag number episode.

Although they don't recall the exact date of this dinner, it was so long after the incident, the new tags had since been issued and the old ones discarded. Moreover, it hadn't impressed him as being important enough to ask someone to check for him. After all, the F.B.I. had apparently dropped the matter.

Asked to describe the F.B.I.'s efforts, Barbara said that one day an agent came to the house. This was at 4309 Colgate Lane, the Garland address they moved from 2018 Garlandin 11/61, and he inquired about their tags. She pointed out her tags on the old Ford station wagon and advised Carl had the '57 Plymouth at work.

No, they never owned a red auto of any type. Again she doesn't recall the date, but it was when the newer tags were in effect anyway. She didn't hear from the agent again and Carl didn't hear at all.

What seemed like six weeks later, a second agent came to the same house and interviewed Barbara – again at home alone during the day – and he, too, was interested in the fact that a tag listed to Carl was observed on a different type of vehicle in a different part of town.

When she indicted the first agent didn't understand it, either, he seemed surprised another agent had been ahead of him. This seemed tocause his interest in the matter to wane and he left. Like the first agent, hedidn't return, nor did he interview Carl.

Not that Carl isn't used to being interviewed by governmentagents; he has a security clearance – and he has had since he started travelingwith his company – he's been with them for 21 years now. Has traveled overseas. His specific function deals with the installation of special electronics gear in aircraft. One such assignment caused him to be quartered in Brandywine, Maryland as he worked for some period of time at Andrews Air Force Base working on "Air Force Two" – Vice President Johnson's plane at the time.

He adds he does recall the date of 11-22-63. He worked all day at Richardson, Texas, Collins Radio Shop. Although the (then) boss, J.A. Pickford, has since retired, he thinks he's still in the area.

PICKFORD, JAMES

JFK ASSASSINATIONS SYSTEM ID FORM

HSCA

RIF: 180-10113-10265

REACTION TO ASSASSINATION, CARL MATHER,

KENNEDY, JOHN; ASSASSINATION

OUTSIDE CONTACT REPORT

OPEN IN FULL

08/12/93

BOX 256

12/1/78

Telephone contact

Summary: I made contact with Mr. Pickford on this date and received the following information, after I identified myself and told of our interest in developing a list of all witnesses in the JFK assassination. He recalls that he represented management with Collins Radio and had lunch inside with union representatives on 11/22/63in view of the on going discussions. After lunch, word came of the assassination and was initially regarded as a course joke. Later verification brought about general dismay and all employees were excused. He stated, "It was plain to see that no one was going to do any work. It only remained to determine the pay status." A few employees hung around, but most of them left.

With regard to Carl Mather, Pickford can't recall where he was at the time of the assassination. He knows he didn't have lunch with him. His job at the time concerned electro-mechanical assembly, which is the mechanical portion of working with electronic equipment. They worked in a shop atmosphere but it was not an assembly-line type function. There was more moving around then in an assembly-line production.

However, assigning people outside the complex was seldom done. This entailed union involvement and was an unusual occurrence. Pickfordis certain that no such assignment existed on 11/22/63. That day is still vivid in his mind.

Asked if anyone might be assigned to the Oak Cliff area at any time, Pickford answered that they had no subsidiaries there, but prior to1959 they did have such a location at Red Bird Airport.Oak Cliff is between Richardson and Red Bird.

Pickford was unable to say whether Mather even worked that particular day. He suggested contacting Collins personnel but doubts if records from 1963 would still be available.

Pickford says he retired from Collins Radio in 1972 and has since become associated with another firm.

Pickford's impression of Mather is that he was the most competent, dependable man deserving of the highest trust. He considered him outstanding.

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JFKcountercoup: Carl Mather & Collins Radio

Greg Parker has posted the original documents here: (Thanks Greg)

Bill Kelly HSCA Collection - Reopen KENNEDY CASE!

MATHER, CARL, AMOS – Former neighbor of J.D. Tippit;employed at Collins Radio Co., in Richardson, T; question re: his auto (1957 Plymouthlicense pp 4537) at El Chico, (re Wes Wise) then same car at Tippit's home 11/22/63. SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS

180-10087-10360

180-10108-10138

7-pages "Postponed in Full" Box 254

Carl Amos Mather

3/20/78

Route 2, Box 228

Piano, Texas

Residence

Interview:

Have known the J.D. Tippit family since they were neighbors in 1958 on the 1900-2000 block of Glendfield, in Dallas.

Before the Mathers moved to Garland, Texas, in 11/61, they had become good friends with the Tippits. Each family had three children and the ages were similar. Carl and Barbara would double date on occasion, usually visiting a "family-type Club" involving an inexpensive evening. Never any trouble between anyone in either family, nor were they aware of any the Tippits had with anyone else.

Their impression of J.D. was that of a hard working man determined to provide for his family in spite of the lack of potential for advancement. Knew he took various odd jobs to augment his income and seemed to spend what little free time he had with his family. Marie helped out by babysitting for 5 to 7 children on somewhat of a regular basis. On occasion, the Mather kids would be included.

Hard put to recall other Tippit friends or associates in the neighborhood; they do recall "Frank and Angie" living next door to J.D. and Marie, but can't recall their surname.

Wes Wise, the ex-mayor, was a sports announcer at that timeand it seems he had a speaking engagement at "some restaurant in Dallasa short time after the assassination."

He (Wise) was told by "a man" who had in his employ a mechanic who was also a part-time deputy of some nature, that this employee, on the day of the assassination, had observed a suspicious "red ford car" spinning it's wheels and throwing gravel behind a parked bus. The mechanic utilized his "deputy training" and jotted down the tag number and now "this man" was giving it to Wise.

So Wise was calling him, advising him of these developments and inviting him to dinner in as much as there was another person from the news media in New York, now in Dallas with Wise to do a documentary on the entire assassination and any interesting asides.

He and his wife met Wise and Dana Bartell, "from the N.Y., wire service" in the Old Warsaw Restaurant located in Oak Lawn. Dinner and discussion of these curious events didn't seem to accomplish much,as they came away without understanding how that mechanic could have written down the tag listed to "Carl's '57 Plymouth."

(Barbara was driving an old Ford station wagon, early '50's, white over faded blue at the time).

Several months later saw the documentary on TV with her name listed in the credits, but no mention of the tag number episode.

Although they don't recall the exact date of this dinner, it was so long after the incident, the new tags had since been issued and the old ones discarded. Moreover, it hadn't impressed him as being important enough to ask someone to check for him. After all, the F.B.I. had apparently dropped the matter.

Asked to describe the F.B.I.'s efforts, Barbara said that one day an agent came to the house. This was at 4309 Colgate Lane, the Garland address they moved from 2018 Garlandin 11/61, and he inquired about their tags. She pointed out her tags on the old Ford station wagon and advised Carl had the '57 Plymouth at work.

No, they never owned a red auto of any type. Again she doesn't recall the date, but it was when the newer tags were in effect anyway. She didn't hear from the agent again and Carl didn't hear at all.

What seemed like six weeks later, a second agent came to the same house and interviewed Barbara – again at home alone during the day – and he, too, was interested in the fact that a tag listed to Carl was observed on a different type of vehicle in a different part of town.

When she indicted the first agent didn't understand it, either, he seemed surprised another agent had been ahead of him. This seemed tocause his interest in the matter to wane and he left. Like the first agent, hedidn't return, nor did he interview Carl.

Not that Carl isn't used to being interviewed by governmentagents; he has a security clearance – and he has had since he started travelingwith his company – he's been with them for 21 years now. Has traveled overseas. His specific function deals with the installation of special electronics gear in aircraft. One such assignment caused him to be quartered in Brandywine, Maryland as he worked for some period of time at Andrews Air Force Base working on "Air Force Two" – Vice President Johnson's plane at the time.

He adds he does recall the date of 11-22-63. He worked all day at Richardson, Texas, Collins Radio Shop. Although the (then) boss, J.A. Pickford, has since retired, he thinks he's still in the area.

PICKFORD, JAMES

JFK ASSASSINATIONS SYSTEM ID FORM

HSCA

RIF: 180-10113-10265

REACTION TO ASSASSINATION, CARL MATHER,

KENNEDY, JOHN; ASSASSINATION

OUTSIDE CONTACT REPORT

OPEN IN FULL

08/12/93

BOX 256

12/1/78

Telephone contact

Summary: I made contact with Mr. Pickford on this date and received the following information, after I identified myself and told of our interest in developing a list of all witnesses in the JFK assassination. He recalls that he represented management with Collins Radio and had lunch inside with union representatives on 11/22/63in view of the on going discussions. After lunch, word came of the assassination and was initially regarded as a course joke. Later verification brought about general dismay and all employees were excused. He stated, "It was plain to see that no one was going to do any work. It only remained to determine the pay status." A few employees hung around, but most of them left.

With regard to Carl Mather, Pickford can't recall where he was at the time of the assassination. He knows he didn't have lunch with him. His job at the time concerned electro-mechanical assembly, which is the mechanical portion of working with electronic equipment. They worked in a shop atmosphere but it was not an assembly-line type function. There was more moving around then in an assembly-line production.

However, assigning people outside the complex was seldom done. This entailed union involvement and was an unusual occurrence. Pickfordis certain that no such assignment existed on 11/22/63. That day is still vivid in his mind.

Asked if anyone might be assigned to the Oak Cliff area at any time, Pickford answered that they had no subsidiaries there, but prior to1959 they did have such a location at Red Bird Airport.Oak Cliff is between Richardson and Red Bird.

Pickford was unable to say whether Mather even worked that particular day. He suggested contacting Collins personnel but doubts if records from 1963 would still be available.

Pickford says he retired from Collins Radio in 1972 and has since become associated with another firm.

Pickford's impression of Mather is that he was the most competent, dependable man deserving of the highest trust. He considered him outstanding.

Greg Parker has posted the original docs here: (Thanks Greg)

Bill Kelly HSCA Collection - Reopen KENNEDY CASE!

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Bill Kelly HSCA Collection - Reopen KENNEDY CASE!

Wes Wise Invite IMG 0010

American Bank and Trust Company letterhead

October 31, 1963

Mr. Wes Wise

Station KRLD –TV

Herald Square

Dallas, Texas

Dear Mr. Wise:

The Oak Cliff Exchange Club would like to have you present a program on sportson December 4, 1963 at theEl Chico Restaurant, located at the corner of Zangs and Davis in Oak Cliff.

The Club meets at Noon,and there will be several boys present from the Dallas County Boys Home atHutchins.

Your help would certainly be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Terry C. Dickens, Jr.

Vice President and

Program Chairman

Oak Cliff Exchange Club

TCD: fjb

Hand written as notes on this page are

Texas

4537

Mack Pate

Automotive

Clydes Body Shop (n center?)

2 to 3 blocks

Tippit Shot

2-3 block

Patton St.

Beckley & Davis

5 blocks to apt.

5 blocks back

Davis & Patton & x

Then back to theater

25-30 blocks

On top right hand side of this document is hand written:

57' Plymouth Ford x

Xxxx

4309 Colgate

xxxx

2515 W. 5th St.

Mrs. Paine

IMG

FBI

December 4, 1963

1

Mr. WES WISE, Sports Department, KRLD-TV, was interviewed at which time he furnished the following information. Mr. Wise said on December 4, 1963 he made a talk before the Oak Cliff Exchange Club at a luncheon meeting at the El Chico Restaurant in Oak Cliff. Wise said all thoughhis specialty is sports, eventually the conversation at the meeting got around to the assassination of the President sicne persons present knew WISE was associated with KRLD-TV, the CBS outlet in Dallas, Texas.

WISE continued that at the conclusion of the meeting, one ofthe guests came forward and reluctantly volunteered information that on November 22, 1963 just after news had been broadcast of the President's assassination, he observed a red 1957 Plymouth four-door sedan proceeding west at a rapid rate of speed on Davis Street in Oak Cliff. WISE said his source stated after a short period of time, this car returned to the parking lot at the El Chico Restaurant where the car parked beside the restaurant and the occupant remained in the car. The source told WISE because of the mysterious maneuverings of this car, he walked close to the car and determined the license number was PP 4537. The source told WISE at the luncheon meeting that evening while observing TV, a picture of OSWALD was shown and the source recognized OSWALD asbeing the individual he observed in the red 1957 Plymouth on that afternoon.

WISE said as he recalled, this occurred on the same corner where Oswald reportedly left a taxicab following his trip from downtown Dallas.

WISE said he had checked the license PP 4537 through the License Bureau and it was ascertained this license was issued to CARL AMOS MATHER, 4309 Colgate Lane, Garland, Texas.

WISE stated at this time he desired not to furnish the identity of his source of information, but added if investigation indicated this individual might be involved in the OSWALD case, WISE would reveal the identity of the source.

12/4-63

Dallas, Texas

File # DL 89-43

By Special Agent CHARLES T. BROWN

IMG 0008

FBI

December 14, 1963

1

Mr. WES WISE, Sports Department, KRLD-TV, advised Mr. T.F. WHITE, a Mechanic at the Mack Pate Garage, 114 7th Street, Dallas, is the individual who furnished WISE information on December 4, 1963. WISE stated on December 4, 1963 WHITE had told WISE he (WHITE) observed a 1957 red Plymouth automobile on the parking lot adjacent to the El Chico Restaurant in Dallas, and WHITE believed the individual driving the car at the time was LEE HARVEY OSWALD.

WISE stated although he did not desire to furnish the identity of his source of this information at first, it would be permissible for an FBI Agent to interview WHITE at this time to further check out WHITE"s story.

12-9-63

Dallas, Texas

Special Agent CHARLES T. BROWN

File # DL 100-10461

IMG 0002

FBI

December 14, 1963

Mr. MILTON LOVE, Dallas County Tax Office, Dallas, Texas, advised 1963 Texas License Plate PP4537 was issued for a 1957 Plymouth automobile in possession of CARL AMOS MATHER, 4309 Colgate Street, Garland Texas.

12-5-63

Dallas

File # 100-10461

By Special Agent CHARLES T. BROWN, Jr.

FBI

December 14, 1963

1.

Mrs. JUDY BACHMAN, Merchant's Retail Credit Association, Garland, Texas, advised CARL AMOS MATHER, 4309 Colgate Street, Garland, Texas,has been known to MRCA records since April, 1957. His file was last checked June, 1958. MATHER was born October 22, 1927. The file indicates MATHER formerly resided in Tulsa, Oklahmoa in 1957 and he is a former resident of Grand Prarie, Texas in 1958. He formerly resided at 1020 Hines Boulevard, Dallas, Texas. A report from Merchant's Retail Credit Association at Tulsa, Oklahoma indicates MATHER was formerly employed by the Harley Davidson Motorcycle Company in Tulsa. At the present time, MATHER is employed by Collins Radio Company, Richardson, Texas. These records indicate MATHER has an account at the First National Bank, Grand Prarie, Texas. Relatives are shown as A.L. or U.L. Mather, Rogers, Arkansas, and his wife has a relative, WAYNE RILEY, at Kansas City, Missouri.

12-5-63

Garland, Texas

File # DL 100-10461

Special Agent CHARLES T. BROWN, Jr.

12-10-63

FBI

December 14, 1963

1.

SA CHARLES T. BROWN, Jr., observed a 1957 Plymouth, four-door automobile parked in the driveway at 4309 Colgate Street, Garland, Texas, which car had a 1963 Texas License PP 4537. It was observed that this car is a light blue over medium blue color.

12-5-63

Garland, Texas

File # DL 100-10461

12-10-63

FBI

December 14, 1963

1

Mrs. CARL A. MATHER, 4309 Colgate Street, Garland, Texas, stated that she and her husband own the light blue over medium blue 1957 Plymouth automobile bearing 1963 license PP 4537 which was parked in the driveway at this address.

Mrs. MATHER stated she and her husband also own a 1954 Ford station wagon which is white over light blue in color.

Mrs. MATHER stated on November 22, 1963, her husband left is work at Collins Radio Company in Richardson, Texas at approximately 2:00 or 2:30 P.M. in the afternoon at which time he came to their home at 4309 Colgate Street, Garland, Texas. Mrs.MATHER stated she and her husband were friends with former Dallas Policeman J.D. TIIPPIT who was shot on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. Mrs. MATHER said shortly after her husband arrived home, they took their two children with them in their 1954 Ford station wagon at which time they proceeded to Dallas, Texas to the TIPPIT home to express their condolences to Mrs. TIPPIT, and to assist her in any way possible. Mrs. MATHER said she and her husband and their children remained at the TIPPIT home together until around 5 P.M. They arrived at the TIPPIT home at approximately 3:30 P.M. that afternoon. Around 5:00 P.M., Mr. MATHER left the TIPPIT home with the two MATHER children and drove to the MATHER home in Garland where he fed the two children and put them to bed.

Mrs. MATHER was questioned as to knowledge of her husband or anyone else driving a red late model automobile in the vicinity of the Le Chico Restaurant on the afternoon of November 22, 1963 at which time Mrs. MATHER stated she was at a loss to understand any connection between the red automobile reportedly bearing TexasLicense PP 4537 and her family.

Mrs. MATHER said as best she could recall, her husband was at the TIPPIT home constantly on the afternoon of November 22, 1963 following their arrival there at about 3:30 P.M.

12-5-63

Garland, Texas

File # DL 100-10461

SA CHARLES T. BROWN, Jr.

12-10-63

FBI

December 14, 1963

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Mr. T.F. WHITE, Mechanic, Mack Pate's Garage, 114 West 7th Street, Dallas, Texas, was interviewed regarding a red 1957 Plymouth reportedly seen by him in the parking lot of the El Chico Restaurant on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. Mr. WHITE was advised Mr. WES WISE, Sports Department, KRLD-TV, Dallas,has furnished information which Mr. WISE obtained from Mr. WHITE reflecting the individual driving the red 1957 Plymouth was believed to be LEE HARVEY OSWALD.

Mr. WHITE stated he saw the red car at approximately 2:00 P.M. on the parking lot of the El Chico Restaurant. He stated he now believes the car to have been a red 1961 Falcon and he believed the automobile had 1963 Texas License PP 4537. WHITE said he observed the man driving the car from the side of his face, and when he saw the televions pictures of LEE HARVEY OSWALD on the night of November 22, 1963, he believed the man he saw at the El Chico Restaurant parking lot was identical with OSWALD. He said the man sat in the car for a short period of time and then left at a high rate of speed, going west on Davis.

Mr. WHITE was advised that the license number furnished by him had been checked and ascertained to be assigned to the 1957 Plymouth automobile which had been observed by an FBI agent and determined to be a light blue over medium blue in color. Mr.WHITE was also advised that LEE HARVEY OSWALD had been captured at the Texas Theater in Dallas at approximately 2:00 P.M., after having shot Dallas Police Officer J.D. TIPPIT at approximately 1:18 P.M. Mr. WHITE was further advised witnesses have stated they observed OSWALD fleeing from the scene of the TIPPIT shooting on foot and he was observed by other witnesses to enter the Texas Theater shortly after the shooting.

Mr. WHITE said he thought he had obtained the correct license number on the car, and, upon seeing OSWALD on television on the night of November 22, 1963, he thought OSWALD was possibly identical with the man he had seen driving the red automobile on the afternoon of November 22, 1963.

12-13-63

Dallas, Texas

SA CHALRES T. BROWN, Jr.

DL 100-10462

12-14-63

Mather Subpoena

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

In the Matter of the Application of

UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS

NOTICE OF AN APPLICATION FOR AN ORDER CONFERING IMMUNITY ON ANDCOMPELLING TESTIMONY FROM CARL AMOS MATHER

TO: HONORABLE GRIFFIN B. BELL

ATTORNEY GENERAL, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Main Justice Building

10th and Constitution Aveenue, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20530

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on or after the 30th dayof May 1978 in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia,United States Courthouse, Third and Constitution Avenue, N.W., Washington , D.C., Counsel for the Select Committee onAssassinations, acting on behalf of the Select Committee on Assassinations ofthe United States House of Represntatives, will apply to the Court, pursuant tothe provisions of Title 18, United States Code, Section 6002, et. seq., for anorder conferring immunity upon Carl AmosMather

And compelling him to testify and provide other informationin an inquiry being conducted by the Subcommittee on the Assassination ofPresident John F. Kennedy of the Select Committee on Assassinations.

Dated 5-19-78

G. Robert Blakey Sig

Chief Counsel and Director

Select Committee on Assassinations

U.S.House of Representatives

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J. D. Tippit Investigative Status

I. INTERVIEW:

  • Witnesses: Helen Markham – pedestrian - Jack Tatum – motorist
  • Family: Marie (Tippit) Thomas – widow
  • Friends: Carl Mather – erstwhile neighbor
  • Co-Workers – Calvin Owens – supervisor

WilliamMentzell – fellow worker

BasilRobinson – fellow worker

Morris Brumley – fellowworker

Bill Anglin– best friend

  • Employer – Austin Cook (part-time at restaurant)
  • Ambulance Driver : Jasper Butler

II. SCENE

Examine and compare all available photos

Canvass entire area to reinterview witnesses and/or discoverothers.

Measure time and distance (from LHOrooming house).

Search for significant point(s) BEYOND 10th andPatton.

Escape route unremarkable with possible exception of jacketdiscovered in parking lot. (Arrested with revolver and identification intact.)

III. GENERAL SCOPE:

Complete background on LHOand J.D. Tippit.

Trace origin of firearm (revolver)

Analyze autopsy findings (Compare recovered slugs and verifytrajectory).

IV. INCOMPLETE ASPECTS

Witnesses not interviewed:

Bob K. Carrol

Gerald L. Hill

Paul Bentley

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Oswald and Tippit -page 3

Areas requiring further research and investigation:

1) Tippit medical evidence / interviewing of the two physicians and the FBI agents involved.

2) Tippit ballistics evidence / a determination of the exact number of shots fired and the revolver that was used.

3) Development of basic information regarding Tippit/ was there any relationship betweenTippit and LHO? (SEE Purdy Memo of February 19, 1977: A Mr. Wise, Mayor of Dallas, was told by Pate who owns a garage in Oak Cliff along the route which LHO issaid to have taken after the assassination. Pate believes he saw LHO sitting in a car in the restaurant parking lot across the street from the garage. Pate took the license number of the car. Pate has gone to the FBI with this information. The authorities traced the license to a car belonging to good friends of the Tippits. Has this lead been checked?)

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I've added the footnotes to this.

I've also discovered why Art Collins was living in Dallas in 1963.

He was Director of the Graduate Research Center of the Southwest, Dallas, Texas from 1962-1969

Has anybody heard of that before?

And was also on the Board of Directors of the Herbert Hover Foundation

Wives – Margaret Van Dyke (RIP 1955) Mary Margaret Meis

4 children. Susan, Michael, Alan and David.

Arthur A. Collins 13601 Preston Road, Dallas, Texas 75240

Arthur A. Collins 13739 Danvers Ln AD9-2816

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books.google.comMarquis Who's Who, LLC - 1979 - 754 pages - Snippet view

Home: 13731 Danvers Dr Dallas TX 75240 Office: Carillon Tower W 13601 Preston Rd Dallas TX 75240

Who's Who in the South and Southwest, 1976-1977

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..... Home: 13731 Danvers Dr Dallas TX 75240 Office: 1 3601 Preston Rd Suite 509W Dallas TX 75240

The International year book and statesmen's who's who

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<fe Chmn. of the Bd. 1933-71; Pres., Arthur A. Collins Inc. since 1972. Pioneer in the development of high frequency radio ... Address: 13731 Danvers Drive, Dallas, Texas, 75240; and office 13601 Preston ltd.. Suite 509W, Texas, 75240,

Arthur Collins's Dallas mansion displays a 1970 build date.:

13731 Danvers Drive - Dallas real estate news, data and statistics ...

http://dfw.blockshopper.com/property/007419000D01A0000/13731_danvers_drive

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I've added the footnotes to this.

I've also discovered why Art Collins was living in Dallas in 1963.

He was Director of the Graduate Research Center of the Southwest, Dallas, Texas from 1962-1969

Has anybody heard of that before?

And was also on the Board of Directors of the Herbert Hover Foundation

Wives – Margaret Van Dyke (RIP 1955) Mary Margaret Meis

4 children. Susan, Michael, Alan and David.

Arthur A. Collins 13601 Preston Road, Dallas, Texas 75240

Arthur A. Collins 13739 Danvers Ln AD9-2816

Thanks for the link Tom, but id doesn't look like a mansion to me. Actually pretty modest for a multi-millionaire.

I am also quite surprised to learn that the Graduate Research Center, that Art Collins directed, was one of the three organizations who sponsored the Trade Center luncheon JFK was on his way to when he was murdered, and that JFK had mentioned the place in his speech, as did LBJ later on.

BK

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From 1962 to 1969 Art Collins served as Director of the Graduate Research Centerof the Southwest, Dallas, Texas,and lived at 13601 Preston Road, Dallas, Texas 75240.

The University of Texasat Dallas, also referred to as UTDallas or UTD, is a public research university in the University of Texas System. The main campus isin the heart of the Richardson, Texas, TelecomCorridor, 18 miles north of downtown Dallas.The institution, established in 1961 as the Graduate Research Centerof the Southwest and later renamed the Southwest Center for Advanced Studies (SCAS),began as a research arm of Texas Instruments.

The Graduate Research Center would have two components; Southwest Center for Advanced Studies and theInstitute for Graduate Education and Research. The idea was to interface withuniversities to provide graduate education and research opportunities thatwould encourage the accumulation of intellectual and scientific talent in the Texasarea.

By fall 1964 the Southwest Center for Advanced Studies waslocated in a new home in Richardsonand was headed by Professor Lloyd Berkner. There were to be laboratoriesspecializing in Earth and Planetary Science, Materials Science, MolecularSciences, Electronics, and Computer Sciences. The Center would be home forpermanent faculty, visiting professors and post doctoral research associates.

President John F. Kennedy: "I am honored to have thisinvitation to address the annual meeting of the Dallas Citizens Council, joinedby the members of the Dallas Assembly — and pleased to have this opportunity tosalute the Graduate Research Center of the Southwest. It is fitting that thesetwo symbols of Dallas progress areunited in the sponsorship of this meeting. For they represent the bestqualities, I am told, of leadership and learning in this city — and leadershipand learning are indispensable to each other. The advancement of learningdepends on community leadership for financial and political support and theproducts of that learning, in turn, are essential to the leadership's hopes forcontinued progress and prosperity. It is not a coincidence that thosecommunities possessing the best in research and graduate facilities — from MITto Cal Tech — tend to attract the new and growing industries. I congratulatethose of you here in Dallas who have recognized these basic facts through thecreation of the unique and forward-lookingGraduate Research Center." - Excerpt from a speech that was to be given on Nov. 22, 1963, by President John F.Kennedy, during a luncheon ceremony at the Dallas Trade Mart.

President Lyndon B. Johnson: "The Graduate Research Centerof the Southwest, under the leadership of Dr. Berkner, helps to fill a vitalneed for the vigorous future of Texasand the Southwest. It has long had my admiration and my support." - President Lyndon Johnson

President Lyndon B. Johnson's words were taped on October 27, 1964, for use on October 29, 1964 at the dedicationof the Graduate Research Center of the Southwest. The centerwas founded in 1961 by Cecil Green, Erik Jonsson and Eugene McDermott and wasrenamed the Southwest Centerfor Advanced Studies in 1967. In 1969, it joined the University of Texas System to become UTDallas.

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THE COLLINS RADIO CONNECTIONS to the Assassination of President Kennedy

By William E. Kelly – Revised from report originally published in Backchannels magazine and presented at the national conference of the Coalition On Political Assassination (COPA), October 10, 1994.

If the assassination of President Kennedy was the result of not only a conspiracy, but a covert action and coup d'etat, as some people believe, there should be evidence of this from both the scene of the crime(s) as well as from the highest echelons of power among those who took over the government. This would be especially so if the assassination was not the action of a lone-nut or a foreign attack by Cuban or Soviet intelligence service sponsors, but an internal manipulation of policy and control, an inside job.

As Edward Luttwack describes in his "How-To" book Coup d'etat – A Practical Handbook (Alfred A. Knopf, 1968, p. 117), "Control over the flow of information emanating from the political center will be our most important weapon in establishing… authority after the coup. The seizure of the main means of mass communication will thus be a task of crucial importance."

At the scene(s) of the crime, eyewitness testimony is always suspect. Homicide detectives prefer more solid leads that provide documented evidence that can be introduced in court, such as fingerprints, telephone records and automobile license numbers.

There are more than a few automobile license records of significance in regards to the assassination of President Kennedy, including the tampered photo among the possessions of Lee Harvey Oswald of the license on 1957 Chevy in General Walker's driveway, a Renault in Mexico City, plus the license numbers of cars seen in Dealey Plaza photos immediately before and after the assassination.

Most significant however, is the Texas plate PP4537. This number was jotted down on a piece of paper by an elderly Oak Cliff mechanic T. F. White, who noticed a man acting suspiciously behind the wheel of a 1958 two tone Plymouth sedan shortly after the murder of Dallas Policeman J.D. Tippitt. The car was parked behind a billboard in the parking lot of a Mexican restaurant, with the driver, like White, watching the flurry of Dallas police cars racing down the street with sirens blaring, called to the nearby scene of the shooting of Tippit.

White walked across the street to get closer and exchanged glances with the man, who quickly drove away. White wrote down the license tag PP4537 on a piece of paper and forgot about it until later that day when he saw Lee Harvey Oswald on television and recognized him as the man he saw acting suspiciously in the Plymouth earlier that afternoon.

A few weeks later, when Dallas radio reporter and later mayor of Dallas Wes Wise gave a talk at the Oak Cliff restaurant, the owner of the garage where Mr. White worked mentioned the suspicious Plymouth to Wise, who then met White. White reluctantly told his story, and didn't want to get involved, and Wise had to use all his powers of persuasion to convince White to share the information with him. Wise promised White he would not be brought into the investigation, but that he would handle it. "Do you have the piece of paper with the license number on it?" Wise asked, and sure enough, White had it right there in his pocket and gave it to Wise. It read: PP4537.

White told Wise that nobody knew who or what was really behind the assassination of President Kennedy and he really didn't want to get involved, but he handed over the paper to Wise, who passed it on to the police and FBI.

A quick check of the Texas plate #PP4537 indicated that it was assigned to Carl Mather, of Garland, Texas. When the FBI went out to the listed Garland address they found the two tone 1958 Plymouth right there in the driveway and knocked on the door. Mrs. Mather answered, acknowledged the car belonged to her husband, who was then away at work at Collins Radio, in nearby Richardson, Texas. When asked where her husband and the car was on Friday, November 22, 1963, she said that the car was in the parking lot at Collins Radio until sometime in the afternoon when her husband returned home and picked up the family to go to the Tippit residence to pay their respects to the widow and family of their good friend, who was murdered that day.

Instead of going out to Collins Radio to interview Mather however, the FBI went first to Mr. White, who Wes Wise had promised wouldn't be involved, and took additional statements from him, changing his story for the official reports and exchanging the two tone Plymouth to a red Ford Falcon. CBS News made a polite inquiry years later, leaving Carl Mather out of the documentary program they aired but listed Mrs. Mather in the programs credits. The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) briefly looked into the affair, granted Mather immunity from prosecution to testify and then failed to question him under oath. The HSCA published a short report they titled "The Wise Allegation," when in fact Wes Wise made no allegations, and merely followed up on his reporter's instincts. He came up with an automobile license plate number that was seen near the murder of a Dallas policeman that was traced to one of the victim's best friends, Carl Mather, whose alibi was that he was at work at the time, at Collins Radio.

Documents later released under the JFK Act indicate that Mather was questioned by HSCA investigators and acknowledged that he worked on electronics at Collins, his specific job being the installation of the radio equipment aboard Air Force Two – the Vice President's plane.

That this lead was not properly investigated, and remains uninvestigated today, is because such an inquiry actually does lead to the heart of the plot to murder not only Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit, but as many believe, is tied directly to the assassination of President Kennedy. If the Tippit murder is connected to the assassination of the President, then the Tippit murder may be the "Rosetta Stone" that could explain the mysteries of both murders.

The significance of the Collins Radio connections becomes apparent with a quick review of the published record, and that:

  • On November 1, 1963 the New York Times published a photograph of the ship the Rex, which Fidel Castro identified as the boat that dropped off a team of assassins in Cuba a few nights previous. The Rex was docked at Palm Beach, Florida, near the JFK family compound, and the Rex's Halloween eve mission was in clear violation of President Kennedy's March 1963 edict that no para-military raids against Cuba were to originate from U.S. shores. According to the article in the NYTs, the Rex had been sold by the Somoza regime in Nicaragua to the Belcher Oil Company, its dock fees paid by the CIA front company Sea Ship Inc., with the Rex then being leased to the Collins Radio Company of Richardson, Texas, "for scientific research."
  • Founded by Arthur Collins, of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Collins Radio first made news headlines when young Collins was an amateur radio buff with the only (home made) radio receiver that could pick up the radio transmissions of Navy Commander Richard E. Byrd from his polar exploration expedition. [Richard Byrd is the cousin of the founder of the Civil Air Patrol and owner of the Texas School Book Depository building].
  • Collins Radio became a major defense contractor during World War II, and following the war, participated in Operation Paperclip, hiring Dr. Alex Lipisch, the former Nazi scientist who developed the Delta I glider and ME 163 Komet jet fighter. For Collins, Lipisch was assigned to the boat development program that worked with General Dynamics in attempting to build and refine a sleek, swift speedboat – the V20 - that could be used for Cuban infiltration missions like the Rex mission. It was later used in Vietnam.
  • David Ferrie's telephone records reflect that in the weeks before the assassination he made frequent calls from the New Orleans law office of G. Ray Gill to the Belcher Oil Company of Dallas, Texas, the company that was the listed owner of the Rex.
  • In the week before the assassination, a reservation was made at Jack Ruby's Carousel Club for a large party of Collins Radio employees.
  • The Dallas P.D. Intelligence Division maintained a paid informant who worked at Collins Radio and reported on fellow employees who appeared suspicious or subversive, including one who was reported to subscribe to the leftist I.F. Stone Weekly.
  • When Lee Harvey Oswald returned to Texas from Soviet Russia, George DeMohrenschildt introduced him to retired Navy Admiral Chester Bruton, an executive at Collins Radio, with the idea of Oswald getting a job there, as he had worked in a radio factory in Minsk, USSR. Oswald and Marina visited Bruton with DeMohrenschilt.
  • At the time of the assassination Adml. Bruton was working on a top-secret nuclear submarine communications project for Collins, with the Navy's nuclear sub radar and communications HQ being based at Woods Hole, Massachusetts, close neighbors of Michael Paine's family island.
  • In 1963 Collins Radio began receiving large military contracts including one for the construction of a microwave communications network in Southeast Asia, specifically Vietnam.
  • After Oswald was murdered while in Dallas police custody by Jack Ruby, his widow Marina P. Oswald married former Collins Radio employee Kenneth Porter.
  • In Miami, Florida, a Cuban exile, and former executive of Collins Radio, was murdered, assassinated in a still unsolved homicide.
  • Collins Radio supplied and maintained the equipment used by the Voice of America, all manned NASA space flights, the Strategic Air Command (SAC), as well as all equipment used for the CIA's Guatemalan and Cuban operations. Most significantly, Collins Radio was responsible for installing and maintaining all radio equipment aboard Air Force One, Air Force Two and the Cabinet's plane.
  • According to the Collins Radio Annual Report to stockholders for 1963-64, Collins Radio not only installed and maintained the radios aboard most military and executive branch planes, they also operated the station known as "Liberty" at their Cedar Rapids, Iowa headquarters, which served as a relay station for all radio communications between the White House, the Pentagon, Air Force One, Air Force Two, the Cabinet plane and Andrews AFB in Washington.

[This "Liberty" station is misidentified on most transcripts of the edited version of the radio transmissions from Air Force One on 11/22/63. "Air Force One, the Presidential airplane, was placed in service in 1962 using communications equipment developed and manufactured by Collins. The aircraft…was modified to meet special requirements…In 1962, the station many remember as "Liberty" was opened and operated from the new communications building….(in Cedar Rapids, Iowa)…Collins had a contract with the Air Force to serve as either the primary communications station or as a backup whenever Air Force One, the presidential aircraft, and other aircraft in the VIP fleet carried cabinet members or high ranking military officers. Over the airwaves the station's call word was 'Liberty.'" – From Collins Radio – the First 50 Years.]

In his book The Making of a President – 1964, Theodore H. White wrote: "There is a tape recording in the archives of the government which best recaptures the sound of the hours as it waited for leadership. It is a recording of all the conversations in the air, monitored by the Signal Corps Midwestern center 'Liberty,' between Air Force One in Dallas, the Cabinet plane over the Pacific, and the Joint Chiefs' Communications Center in Washington….On the flight the party learned that there was no conspiracy, learned the identity of Oswald and his arrest; and the President's mind turned to the duties of consoling the stricken and guiding the quick."

According to the analysis of E. Martin Schotz and Vincent Salandria (in History Will Not Absolve Us, 1996), "And yet the White House had informed President Johnson and the other occupants of Air Force One, all of them witnesses to the hail of bullets which had poured down on Dealey Plaza, that as of the afternoon of the assassination there was to be no conspiracy and that Oswald was to be the lone assassin. If White's report were correct this would mean that federal officials in Washington were marrying the government to the cover-up of Oswald as the lone assassin virtually instantaneously. This could have occurred only if those federal authorities had had foreknowledge that the evidence would implicate Oswald and that he would have 'no confederates.' An innocent government could not have reacted in such a fashion internally."

Unfortunately, there is no longer "a tape recording in the archives of the government," as the original, unedited, multiple tape recordings of the AF1 radio transmissions cannot be located despite an Act of Congress, the request of the Assassinations Records Review Board (ARRB) and numerous Freedom of Information Act requests. Our government seems to have simply lost the recordings, with no records being kept of their whereabouts or destruction, if in fact they were destroyed.

The Final Report of the ARRB (p. 116) notes:

"6. White House Communications Agency.

"WHCA was, and is, responsible for maintaining both secure (encrypted) and unsecured (open) telephone, radio and telex communications between the President and the government of the United States. Most of the personnel that constitute this elite agency are U.S. military communications specialists; many, in 1963, were from the Army Signal Corps. On November 22, 1963, WHCA was responsible for communications between and among Air Force One and Two, the White House Situation Room, the mobile White House, and with the Secret Service in the motorcade."

"The Review Board sought to locate any audio recordings of voice communications to or from Air Force One on the day of the assassination, including communications between Air Force one and Andrews Air Force Base during the return flight from Dallas to Washington D.C. As many people are now aware of, in the 1970s, the LBJ Presidential Library released edited audio cassettes of the unsecured, or open voice conversations with Air Force One, Andrews AFB, the White House Situation Room, and the Cabinet Aircraft carrying the Secretary of State and other officials on November 22, 1`963. The LBJ Library version of these tapes consists of about 110 minutes of voice transmissions, but the tapes are edited and condensed, so the Review Board staff sought access to unedited, uncondensed versions. Since the edited versions of the tapes contain considerable talk about both the forthcoming autopsy on the President, as well as the reaction of a government in crisis, the tapes are of considerable interest to assassination researchers and historians."

"Given that the LBJ Library released the tapes in the 1970s, the paper trail is now sketchy and quite cold. The LBJ Library staff is fairly confident that the tapes originated with the White House Communications Agency (WHCA). The LBJ Library staff told the Review Board staff that it received the tapes from the White House as part of the original shipment of President Johnson's papers in 1968 or 1969. According to the LBJ Library's documentation, the accession card reads: "WHCA?" and is dated 1975. The Review Board staff could not locate any records indicating who performed the editing, or when, or where."

"The Review Board's repeated written and oral inquiries of the White House Communications Agency did not bear fruit. The WHCA could not produce any records that illuminated the provenance of the edited tapes."

At the time I delivered my report on "The Collins Radio Connections" to the National COPA Conference in Washington in October, 1994, the Washington Post had just then exposed the true occupant of a new, mammoth, suburban Virginia building. It was not, as announced on a sign, the headquarters for Collins Radio/Rockwell International as had been previously reported in the media, but that was the cover company for the super secret National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). Even though there cover had been blown by the New York Times in November, 1963, Collins Radio when it served as a cover for the CIA in the operation of the Rex in Cuba in 1963, it was still serving in the same covert cover capacity thirty years later.

Then in the October, 1998 issue of John F. Kennedy, Jr.'s George Magazine, - David Wise reported on how the NRO had "lost" $6 billion in U.S. taxpayer's money, and specifically mentioned the fiasco surrounding the construction of the HQ building, for which Collins/Rockwell served as a cover company.

In following the Collins Radio trail from JMWAVE missions off Cuba to Dealey Plaza and Oak Cliff, it is clear that any secret intelligence network that can get away with killing the President and losing $6 billion, isn't going to sweat justice.

[William E. Kelly is a freelance journalist whose research into the assassination of President Kennedy is partially sponsored by the Fund For Constitutional Government Investigative Journalism Project. He can be reached at: bkjfk3@yahoo.com]

This is a very fascinating article, I wish I had read this sooner.

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Special Agent! Rest is deleted, sorry!

Scott, you're regularly posting and then quickly deleting most or all of the content in your posts, not all of your posts, but many more than anyone else. You make it plain that the proof supporting what amounts to the many teasers you are posting, is for sale.

Isn't it fair to describe your participation here as spamming the board? You posted the same thing you just deleted, word for word, here on another forum, many months ago. So what was is the posting and retracting all about, if it isn't a merely form of commercial advertising?

Another example; you've filled another of your threads with re-quotes of your own posts: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18755&pid=248409&st=0entry248409

Mary covered part of your teaser, in her files:

A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database

http://http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=31F699C338C1DB09F9FD4EAC6AF226C3?id=6266

Comments: Tampa police officer identified by Thomas White, III, as involved in ... FBI Special Agent Barry Carmody did locate and interview Massey. Carmody

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Special Agent! Rest is deleted, sorry!

Scott, you're regularly posting and then quickly deleting most or all of the content in your posts, not all of your posts, but many more than anyone else. You make it plain that the proof supporting what amounts to the many teasers you are posting, is for sale.

Isn't it fair to describe your participation here as spamming the board? You posted the same thing you just deleted, word for word, here on another forum, many months ago. So what was is the posting and retracting all about, if it isn't a merely form of commercial advertising?

Another example; you've filled another of your threads with re-quotes of your own posts: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18755&pid=248409&st=0entry248409

Mary covered part of your teaser, in her files:

A Record from Mary Ferrell's Database

http://http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do;jsessionid=31F699C338C1DB09F9FD4EAC6AF226C3?id=6266

Comments: Tampa police officer identified by Thomas White, III, as involved in ... FBI Special Agent Barry Carmody did locate and interview Massey. Carmody

That was a good find on me Mr. Tom, I'm impressed. I thought I deleted that information long ago, but now I see I didn't and forgot my password on that forum, I wish I had written it down. From now on, I'll just be reading the information on this forum, as I have nothing I can contribute.

Scott

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