New Zealand Newspaper...too many details too soon?

[Guest John Gillespie]

Hello,

This is my contribution du jour (some might say du annee). We're all aware of the segment in Oliver Stone's "JFK" wherein the Fletcher Proutyesque character played by Donald Sutherland voices-over a scene that shows him seeing a newspaper in New Zealand that purportedly hit the streets about two hours or less after the assassination. The timeline debate continues on various sites.

That debate aside, here is a nicely done site with a digitized version of the salient segments of that edition of The Christ Church Star, in case you hadn't seen it before:

http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Heritag...ils/Thumbs1.asp

Regards,

JG

[Ian Griggs]

John,

Please refer to pages 305-307 of my book "No Case To Answer" for details of my examination and explanation of the Christchurch Star mystery. I believe I have put this one to rest.

IAN

[Thomas H. Purvis]

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

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[Guest John Gillespie]

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

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Thanks guys...no surprise this has been addressed here at some point(s). The material from both of you is very much appreciated. Maybe others will do the New Zealand redux.

Regards,

JohnG

[Guest John Gillespie]

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

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Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

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Well,

That's what I get for taking a sabbatical coincident with the above! This was outstanding, Tom, I must say. I read it all and wondered aloud why some of the correspondents were off on different trips altogether. The connections to LA are most interesting.

One catches the stench of The New World Order almost immediately; to borrow from Tennessee Williams, like "the low tide of her cheap perfume."

Regards,

JG

[Thomas H. Purvis]

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

______________________________________________________

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

___________________________________________________

Well,

That's what I get for taking a sabbatical coincident with the above! This was outstanding, Tom, I must say. I read it all and wondered aloud why some of the correspondents were off on different trips altogether. The connections to LA are most interesting.

One catches the stench of The New World Order almost immediately; to borrow from Tennessee Williams, like "the low tide of her cheap perfume."

Regards,

JG

You most probably also missed the refresher on exactly who Mr. Waldo was, since we now know where he is.

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Name: Janey Woods WALDO

Sex: F

Birth: 1857

Death: 15 AUG 1932 in New Orleans, La

Burial: NEW ORLEANS, LA Greenwood Cemetery

Marriage 1 Sumter Davis MARKS b: 29 AUG 1861 in New Orleans, La.

Children

Janey MARKS b: 27 SEP 1891 in New Orleans, La.

Sumter Davis MARKS b: 16 DEC 1891 in New Orleans, La.

Margaret L. MARKS b: 11 JUN 1893 in New Orleans, La.

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Registered Name: PHELPS, DUNBAR, MARKS, CLAVERIE & SIMS

Applicant: PHELPS DUNBAR, 365 CANAL STREET, STE 2000, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130-0000

Current Status: ACTIVE

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Name: FOR AMERICA

Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana)

Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State)

2006 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing

Mailing Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Domicile Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Principal Office: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Principal Bus. Est. in Louisiana:

Qualified: 07/14/1954

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 321 ST CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

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Name: VIGILANCE INCORPORATED

Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana)

Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State)

2007 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing

Mailing Address: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Domicile Address: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Principal Office: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Qualified: 03/16/1951

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

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[Thomas H. Purvis]

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

______________________________________________________

Perhaps, not unlike Jesus Christ and the Phoenix, it has resurrected.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...&hl=Zealand

___________________________________________________

Well,

That's what I get for taking a sabbatical coincident with the above! This was outstanding, Tom, I must say. I read it all and wondered aloud why some of the correspondents were off on different trips altogether. The connections to LA are most interesting.

One catches the stench of The New World Order almost immediately; to borrow from Tennessee Williams, like "the low tide of her cheap perfume."

Regards,

JG

You most probably also missed the refresher on exactly who Mr. Waldo was, since we now know where he is.

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Name: Janey Woods WALDO

Sex: F

Birth: 1857

Death: 15 AUG 1932 in New Orleans, La

Burial: NEW ORLEANS, LA Greenwood Cemetery

Marriage 1 Sumter Davis MARKS b: 29 AUG 1861 in New Orleans, La.

Children

Janey MARKS b: 27 SEP 1891 in New Orleans, La.

Sumter Davis MARKS b: 16 DEC 1891 in New Orleans, La.

Margaret L. MARKS b: 11 JUN 1893 in New Orleans, La.

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Registered Name: PHELPS, DUNBAR, MARKS, CLAVERIE & SIMS

Applicant: PHELPS DUNBAR, 365 CANAL STREET, STE 2000, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130-0000

Current Status: ACTIVE

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Name: FOR AMERICA

Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana)

Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State)

2006 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing

Mailing Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Domicile Address: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Principal Office: 208 S LASALLE ST, CHICAGO, IL 60604

Principal Bus. Est. in Louisiana:

Qualified: 07/14/1954

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 321 ST CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

Registered Agent (Appointed 7/14/1954): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 321 ST. CHARLES, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70130

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Name: VIGILANCE INCORPORATED

Type Entity: Non-Profit Corporation or Co-op (Non-Louisiana)

Status: Not Active (Action by Secretary of State)

2007 Annual Report/Reinstatement form is required in order to reinstate Print Annual Report/Reinstatement Form For Filing

Mailing Address: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Domicile Address: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Principal Office: 100 W 10TH ST, WILMINGTON, DE 19801

Qualified: 03/16/1951

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): CHARLES E. DUNBAR, JR., 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): SUMTER D. MARKS, JR., 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

Registered Agent (Appointed 3/16/1951): LOUIS B. CLAVERIE, 1300 HIBERNIA BLDG, NEW ORLEANS, LA 70112

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Since the above posting did not move to the head of the class and it did not take Mr. Waldo's photo, will try again.

[Thomas H. Purvis]

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Waldo, James Curtis, writer and journalist, son of James Elliot and

Eveline Almira (Cobb) Waldo; born at Meredosia Ill., Dec. 10, 1835;

died at New Orleans, La., Aug. 28, 1901; his mother died in his early

infancy and he was sent to live with an uncle, Rev. Josiah Waldo, at

Troy, N. V., where he attended the Troy academy; came to New Orleans in

1848 and after courses at local schools entered his father's firm;

removed to New York in 1857, where he engaged in wholesale mercantile

business up to the opening of the Civil war, when he came South and

entered the Confederate army; served only 1 year when he was honorably

discharged on account of extreme illness; was offered lucrative

appointments by Gen. Butler and the Federal authorities during the

occupation of New Orleans and the reconstruction period, all of which

he declined; after the Civil war entered journalism as a pursuit and

was identified one time or another and in an editorial capacity with

practically every democratic and anti-carpet bag newspaper or

publication in New Orleans; his writings and the bitter denunciations

by him of carpet bag politicians brought him into frequent conflicts

with those in authority during the reconstruction period; was one of

the organizers of the White League, the organization mainly responsible

for restoring white rule in Louisiana; took a conspicuous part in the

events immediately preceding and which followed the battle of the 14th

Sept., 1874, in which conflict he was an active participant; he is best

known and remembered for his poems published under the nom de plume of

"Tim Linkenwater"; "A Christmas Carol," originally written for the

newsboys of the New Orleans Times, has been translated into eight

languages; within 3 weeks of the publication in the New Orleans

Picayune of "An Old Heirloom," it had been copied by newspapers and

periodicals from coast to coast; he was the moving spirit of several

carnival organizations and was one of the 8 founders of the Carnival

Court; married Margaret Mary Woods; children, Janey Waldo Marks (Mrs.

Sumter Davis Marks), Eveline A., Harry J., James Curtis 2nd (died in

infancy), Catherine Woods, Margaret (died in infancy), Anna (died in

infancy), James Curtis 3rd, and Benjamin Taylor.

Source: Louisiana: Comprising Sketches of Parishes, Towns, Events,

Institutions, and Persons, Arranged in Cyclopedic Form (volume 3), pp.

584-585. Edited by Alcee Fortier, Lit.D. Published in 1914, by Century Historical

Certainly no suprise here that R. H. Waldo ultimately became the Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

[David G. Healy]

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Waldo, James Curtis, writer and journalist, son of James Elliot and

Eveline Almira (Cobb) Waldo; born at Meredosia Ill., Dec. 10, 1835;

died at New Orleans, La., Aug. 28, 1901; his mother died in his early

infancy and he was sent to live with an uncle, Rev. Josiah Waldo, at

Troy, N. V., where he attended the Troy academy; came to New Orleans in

1848 and after courses at local schools entered his father's firm;

removed to New York in 1857, where he engaged in wholesale mercantile

business up to the opening of the Civil war, when he came South and

entered the Confederate army; served only 1 year when he was honorably

discharged on account of extreme illness; was offered lucrative

appointments by Gen. Butler and the Federal authorities during the

occupation of New Orleans and the reconstruction period, all of which

he declined; after the Civil war entered journalism as a pursuit and

was identified one time or another and in an editorial capacity with

practically every democratic and anti-carpet bag newspaper or

publication in New Orleans; his writings and the bitter denunciations

by him of carpet bag politicians brought him into frequent conflicts

with those in authority during the reconstruction period; was one of

the organizers of the White League, the organization mainly responsible

for restoring white rule in Louisiana; took a conspicuous part in the

events immediately preceding and which followed the battle of the 14th

Sept., 1874, in which conflict he was an active participant; he is best

known and remembered for his poems published under the nom de plume of

"Tim Linkenwater"; "A Christmas Carol," originally written for the

newsboys of the New Orleans Times, has been translated into eight

languages; within 3 weeks of the publication in the New Orleans

Picayune of "An Old Heirloom," it had been copied by newspapers and

periodicals from coast to coast; he was the moving spirit of several

carnival organizations and was one of the 8 founders of the Carnival

Court; married Margaret Mary Woods; children, Janey Waldo Marks (Mrs.

Sumter Davis Marks), Eveline A., Harry J., James Curtis 2nd (died in

infancy), Catherine Woods, Margaret (died in infancy), Anna (died in

infancy), James Curtis 3rd, and Benjamin Taylor.

Source: Louisiana: Comprising Sketches of Parishes, Towns, Events,

Institutions, and Persons, Arranged in Cyclopedic Form (volume 3), pp.

584-585. Edited by Alcee Fortier, Lit.D. Published in 1914, by Century Historical

Certainly no suprise here that R. H. Waldo ultimately became the Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Not that it has a bearing on anything but: after serving only one (1) year, then (honorably as you show above, medically) discharged? He rose to THAT position in the SCV?

[Thomas H. Purvis]

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Waldo, James Curtis, writer and journalist, son of James Elliot and

Eveline Almira (Cobb) Waldo; born at Meredosia Ill., Dec. 10, 1835;

died at New Orleans, La., Aug. 28, 1901; his mother died in his early

infancy and he was sent to live with an uncle, Rev. Josiah Waldo, at

Troy, N. V., where he attended the Troy academy; came to New Orleans in

1848 and after courses at local schools entered his father's firm;

removed to New York in 1857, where he engaged in wholesale mercantile

business up to the opening of the Civil war, when he came South and

entered the Confederate army; served only 1 year when he was honorably

discharged on account of extreme illness; was offered lucrative

appointments by Gen. Butler and the Federal authorities during the

occupation of New Orleans and the reconstruction period, all of which

he declined; after the Civil war entered journalism as a pursuit and

was identified one time or another and in an editorial capacity with

practically every democratic and anti-carpet bag newspaper or

publication in New Orleans; his writings and the bitter denunciations

by him of carpet bag politicians brought him into frequent conflicts

with those in authority during the reconstruction period; was one of

the organizers of the White League, the organization mainly responsible

for restoring white rule in Louisiana; took a conspicuous part in the

events immediately preceding and which followed the battle of the 14th

Sept., 1874, in which conflict he was an active participant; he is best

known and remembered for his poems published under the nom de plume of

"Tim Linkenwater"; "A Christmas Carol," originally written for the

newsboys of the New Orleans Times, has been translated into eight

languages; within 3 weeks of the publication in the New Orleans

Picayune of "An Old Heirloom," it had been copied by newspapers and

periodicals from coast to coast; he was the moving spirit of several

carnival organizations and was one of the 8 founders of the Carnival

Court; married Margaret Mary Woods; children, Janey Waldo Marks (Mrs.

Sumter Davis Marks), Eveline A., Harry J., James Curtis 2nd (died in

infancy), Catherine Woods, Margaret (died in infancy), Anna (died in

infancy), James Curtis 3rd, and Benjamin Taylor.

Source: Louisiana: Comprising Sketches of Parishes, Towns, Events,

Institutions, and Persons, Arranged in Cyclopedic Form (volume 3), pp.

584-585. Edited by Alcee Fortier, Lit.D. Published in 1914, by Century Historical

Certainly no suprise here that R. H. Waldo ultimately became the Commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Not that it has a bearing on anything but: after serving only one (1) year, then (honorably as you show above, medically) discharged? He rose to THAT position in the SCV?

Family tree brancing and generation gap!

Rudolph H. Waldo: Father-------John Fowle Crosby Waldo (Uncle to Janey Woods Waldo Marks)

Grandfather:----------------------James Elliot Waldo

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Father of Janey Woods Waldo Marks was:--------------James Curtis Waldo, co-founder of the White League (Uncle to R.H. Waldo)

Grandfather was:------------------------------------------James Elliot Waldo

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Name: James Elliot Waldo

Sex: M

Birth: 11 JUL 1805 in near West Chesterfield, Cheshire Co., New Hampshire 1

Death: 4 DEC 1891 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, Louisiana 1

Note:

Biogra[hy of James Elliot Waldo, published online at: [http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/la/orleans/biographies/wa ldoje.txt]. See bottom of article for additional references.

Waldo, James Elliot, lawyer, educator, and ante-bellum merchant; son of Shubael and Rebecca (Crosby) Waldo; 6th in direct descent from Cornelius Waldo, the New England pioneer; born July 11, 1805, near West Chesterfield, N. H.; died at New Orleans, La., Dec. 4, 1891. Went to New York in 1824 and admitted to New York bar after studying under William Paxton Hallet; removed to Cincinnati, where his brother, Rev. Josiah Waldo, had established the first religious journal in the West, ''The Sentinel and Star of the West,'' which is still published; studied law under Judge Thomas Corwin and admitted to Ohio bar; built the steamboat "Antelope" and navigated her in the Pittsburg-Cincinnati trade in 1828 came to New Orleans and became professor of English in the college of Prof. Francis M. Guyol; in 1831 removed to Meredosia, Ill., in which vicinity he and his brother, Daniel Waldo, had purchased vast tracts of land with the intention of settling it with New England immigrants; Pres. Tyler having named him to office in Louisiana, he returned to New Orleans to live, and in 1849 became a member of the ante-bellum firm of Miller, Harris & Waldo shortly after the reconstruction period he retired from business entirely and spent his declining years in the exercise of his scholarly attainments; his name was identified with almost every commercial and civic movement in Louisiana for over 50 years, and his sympathies were thoroughly assimilated with the South and the state of his adoption; married Eveline Almira Cobb, who died in 1835, leaving 1 child, James Curtis Waldo; married Araminta Fowle; children, John Fowle, Crosby Waldo and Caroline A. Waldo.