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Richard Gilbride

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1. MAY 29, 2016

For JFK's 99th birthday I was invited to give a slideshow at a church in New Hampshire. The presentation went great, but much to my dismay the slides didn't reproduce well onto the video I was hoping to save this event on. So my youtube dreams were dashed. I've finally had the time & space to put together a PDF of that lecture, and have just posted it at my website. It's basically an encapsulation of my TSBD research. For your reading pleasure, it's under LECTURES at http://www.jfkinsidejob.com

4. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

http://jfkinsidejob.com/pm/ In the first photo, the entrance lobby radiator reflects in the plate glass and gives an accurate idea as to how wide the landing was. With a rectilinear correction for perspective, the radiator extends 7.2 cm and measures 4.6 cm high. Tony Fratini determined the radiator was about 30 inches high, comparing it to the 7-foot-high glass panel. We get (7.2/4.6) (30) = approximately 47 inches for the width of the landing, about 4 feet. This is a bit less than the 4.3 feet Fratini obtained from a scale drawing of the TSBD, and a bit more than the 3.5 feet deduced by Andrej Stancak from other sources. In the third sketch, PrayerMan & Frazier's relative positions on the 4 ft. x 11.5 ft. landing are shown, aligned with the vertical stripes behind them. Setting Frazier at 25 cm (i.e. 75 feet) from Darnell's camera position, PrayerMan measures at 25.5 cm (i.e. 76.5 feet). This will give a small correction factor to PrayerMan's height in the Darnell entranceway photo, (76.5/75) = 1.02 The compass arc demonstrates how nearly equivalent their camera-distances are. In the Darnell entranceway photo, the line representing the landing aligns with the peristyles and is demarcated upon the brightly-lit top stair riser, as Fratini illustrates on p. 506 of the PrayerPerson giga-thread at http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8916.4040.html The ceiling forms a 20 degree angle with the west wall, and a similar 20 degree line constructed from the landing line makes an angle close to 70 degrees with the west column- so 20 degrees is a good approximation for Darnell's camera-line with the west wall. Measured from the landing line, Frazier is 5.2 cm high and PrayerMan is 4.4 cm high. We get (4.4/5.2)(76.5/75)(72 inches) = about 62 inches, or 5'2", for PrayerMan's height. I'm not claiming to have laserlike precision with this height-estimation method. Frazier may be standing back from the edge of the landing and so only measure 5.0 cm high. In this case PrayerMan calculates to 5' 4 1/2". It would be a plus to get a height estimation by comparing PM with Lovelady in Wiegman. Computer graphics may yield a slightly more accurate estimate, but can't change the fact that PrayerMan is way too short to be Oswald. Hiring a professional photogrammetry analyst, or a computer graphics analyst, or doing a digital scan will not change that fact.
5. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

Michael, You are ignoring the benchmarks I outlined in my synopsis of the Doyle-MacRae photo-argument. Their result is that you get a good approximation of PrayerMan's height, and it's far too short to be Oswald. That rebuts any propaganda to the contrary. Andrej, I meant what I said, that you did the best job I had seen anywhere explaining Doyle's sun-plane argument (even though I knew it was his). I still have hopes for you doing the correct computer graphics on this project. That's why I was "buddying" up to you, like a python, hoping to suffocate the ROKC propaganda out of you. Vanessa, I think you need to re-read this thread through to learn of the individual effort I attempted to get this film scanned. Robert, It is impossible that there is only a 3-inch difference in the TSBD individual steps, therefore it is impossible that PM is Oswald. Darnell's was a standard news camera without distortion. Bart, I'm in no hurry to meet your photo-demands. My next day off I will hopefully acquire Wiegman stills and add to those in the photo-section at jfkinsidejob.com. I'm not a geek, and doubt Albert Doyle is either, so maybe you should play to the crowd and show us the height differential between PrayerMan and Lovelady. Otherwise you're going to have to wait, and wait. Two years ago, one of your ROKC compatriots threatened physical violence upon me, which is a cybercrime. You are seriously-skewed if you think I'm hurting from that lunchroom hoax debate; I cleaned your clock on it here at the EdForum. ROKC has become a viper's nest that I will continue to fight against. Greg Parker has brought hooliganism to the JFK discussion table, his moral fiber completely dissolved in ethanol. He has forfeited his place as far as I'm concerned. I can hardly wait for your resignation, but don't do ultimatums, and have to work for a living.

8. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

I have hopes of getting those drawings posted today. My webmaster said he received them. In the meantime, a fresh argument has occurred to me against the contention that PrayerMan is on the 1st step. So this is in addition to the preposterously-long legs that ensue from a body-proportion comparison with Tie Man. http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8916.4520.html In the Wiegman gif, PrayerMan stays at the same level, whereas Lovelady raises himself from the 1st step onto the landing. While on the 1st step, the 5'8" Lovelady is several inches below the top of PrayerMan's head. But when he rises onto the landing, Lovelady is a couple of inches above PrayerMan's head. If PrayerMan were the 5'9" Oswald standing on the 1st step, he would appear approximately equal in height to the 1st-step Lovelady. And close to a step-riser shorter when Lovelady rises onto the landing. But we don't see that. We see a person shorter than the 5'8" Lovelady, standing on the landing throughout the Wiegman gif.
9. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

Just a couple of thoughts while I'm waiting to hear from my webmaster, with 3 precise mechanical drawings ready to post. I got the same 20 degree angle between PrayerMan and the west wall that Drew Phipps & Albert Doyle arrived at- I don't know how they got theirs, but mine is close to 20.0 degrees. This led to only about a 1.02% adjustment (to PM's height because of increased distance) whether Darnell was set at 70, 75 or 80 feet from Frazier. Earlier, setting Darnell at only 46 feet, I had thought the adjustment was about 2%. So their positions, with respect to Darnell's camera, are even more accurately considered as "coplanar". Basic trigonometry told us, at 20 degrees and at the edge of a 4-foot landing, that PM was 1.5 feet from the west wall. But I haven't seen the following point yet mentioned: the shoulders are about one-foot in width, and a raised elbow adds a further one-foot to body-width. So when PM raises his elbow in Wiegman, the elbow is extremely close to the west wall. PM needs one-foot available for this elbow-raise and has to be at the edge of the landing, as far from the corner as possible- otherwise his elbow would knock against the wall.
10. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

I made a dumb fatigue error last night (I have been working 10-hour days). Please disregard that number. Sorry if I misled you. I will post this mechanical drawing to my website in a couple or three days, under the heading PM? Also the drawing I did on top of the Darnell entranceway to obtain relative heights for PM & Frazier. I will add a fresh scale drawing of Darnell's 75-foot perspective, and any other drawings as needed. So, I obtained a full-page picture of the Entrance Lobby on p. 15 of WCD 496 at http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10896#relPageId=15&tab=page I drew lines along the top & bottom of the left-hand side of the radiator- these converge, off the page, at 7 degrees. I drew a vertical line through the blackmost portion of the near-corner rib of the radiator. The next line is drawn from the top near-corner to where the bottom line meets the aluminum border on the floor (i.e. a diagonal across the left face). To solve the perspective measurement problem, swing the far end toward the viewer so that both the right & left sides form a 90-degree angle. So construct a 90-degree angle with the near-corner vertical, and extend the diagonal until it intersects this newly-constructed line. All of this will be more easily grasped once you see the drawing. The radiator-width plus distance-to-glass-width measures in perspective (i.e. in the photo) at 5.4 cm; by swinging it toward the viewer it measures at 7.2 cm. The radiator-height stays at 4.6 cm. So we get a ratio to apply to Tony Fratini's 30-inch height measure: (7.2/4.6)(30) = 46.96 inches. This makes sense, because the width of the door seems to be 3.5 feet, in an 11.5-foot-wide entranceway, and it swings open with a cop in front of it still standing on the landing, as seen in Tony's last post on p. 613 at http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8916.4896.html We have to remember, in terms of error analysis, that Darnell's camera was some 75 feet away, and a variation in the landing width an inch or so either way would only make a miniscule difference- a hair's width on his entranceway photo. It seems that an accurate idea of the angle between PrayerMan and the west wall is called for. It looks like that can be figured out with the help of the vertical border strips and the ceiling angle.
11. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

My preliminary result is 41.34 inches. Thanks John for getting me thinking about right triangles again, I knocked myself out with 3 other methods like the ancient Greeks. I will doublecheck my measures and explain my technique tomorrow, I think it's correct. There's a little bit more than a 4/3 ratio between the radiator height and distance of the near corner to the plate glass.
12. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

I have noticed something quite unexpected that hopefully will lead to a precise estimate of the width of the landing. In the Entrance Lobby photo, the reflection of the radiator in the entranceway glass extends almost exactly to the edge of the landing. So that the distance calculation of the near-edge of the radiator to the glass gives the width of the landing. I'm working on getting a precise formula together, but taking the radiator to be 2.5 feet high, a 4-foot-wide landing seems a safe eyeball guess at the moment. See Robert Prudhomme's post #1799 on p. 120 at the famous PrayerMan thread at http://educationforum.iphost.com/index.php?showtopic=20354&page=120(this link isn't cooperating- this is at the bottom of p.5 of the topics) On p. 116 you'll find Ray Mitcham's photo of the width of the stair treads. Robert's adjacent photo contains a modern-day landing but the red-line simulating the original width seems incorrect. Andrej, you don't seem to realize that putting Oswald with one foot down doesn't resolve the height question. Listen to what the phenomenon is telling you, rather than telling the phenomenon how to behave. And your graphic representation is not accurate. Where in Darnell is the bent knee in the sunlight? Where in Darnell is the soda pop bottle? The Wiegman gif is a 2-frame, 4-second differential that only seems like someone drinking. Andrej Stancak: Prayer Man's right hand was lit by the sunlight on a very small spot, and due to the natural blurring of the picture (distance, resolution, film material) this small bright spot got averaged with the darker part of the rest of his hand, causing the hand looking brighter than the forearm. Good one. This is the best explanation I've seen yet.
13. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

Andrej, You are making a systemic error, presuming that your one-foot-down-one-foot-up graphic represents the 5'9" Oswald. The step is 7-1/2" high, so to conclude that your graphic represents the 5'9" Oswald, you are required to demonstrate a relation between Frazier & Oswald that shows the Darnell "Oswald" is only 5' 1-1/2" above the landing. Not just a relation between PrayerMan and his vertical strip, and between Frazier and his vertical strip. You are claiming "Oswald" is only 5' 1-1/2" above the landing, with no basis for comparison- just your say-so. Would you not object if I claimed "Oswald" was one step down, and actually 6' 4-1/2"?
14. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

Ray Mitcham- Perhaps whoever believes the sun is striking PM's hand can explain the considerable difference in the RGB values. Ray, PM's forearm and hand are being illuminated by indirect sunlight. From a diffuse (non-pointlike) source such as the sun, a distinct intermediate zone- a sliver- between direct sun & deep shadow will impact the target. Like the penumbra during a lunar eclipse. There is a gradient of brightness across the width of this sliver. In the Wiegman gif the hand begins within this sliver and, during the motion, its brightness barely increases (to the naked eye)- this means that the hand remains the same (very small) distance from the direct sun. But the brightness of the forearm increases dramatically- it begins near the far edge of this sliver and ends at very nearly the same very small distance from the direct sun as the hand. So the overall hand-forearm motion is akin to a puppeteer, holding the hand-string still, but lifting the forearm-string. An intermediate sliver is a handy concept for Wiegman, since the shadows grow very deep very suddenly as you look into the alcove's west corner. Yet Darnell shows how scattered & reflected light modestly illuminates that corner- inside the lobby we get almost none, and it's impressive that the white radiator (highly-reflective) has been found. But the concept of an intermediate sliver doesn't apply as readily to Darnell- his film stock was evidently better at capturing low light levels. Although it's basically just a definition of convenience, imagining a 4-inch-wide intermediate sliver in Wiegman transfers over to Darnell (where it's not visibly obvious).

16. PRAYER PERSON - PRAYER MAN OR PRAYER WOMAN? RESEARCH THREAD

The Doyle height argument conclusively refutes Murphy's thesis that PrayerMan is Oswald. By way of analogy, this latest sun-shadow analysis is like adjusting mannequins in the display window while the department store is being engulfed by a fire in the rear. ************************** There are two methods I am aware of to get a reasonable approximation of PrayerMan's height: 1) the Drew Phipps method (I have not yet seen his graphics, since I am not a member of Deep Politics, hence will use my own measurements) the landing is 4 ft x 11.5 ft; PrayerMan & Frazier are set at the front edge of the landing, 1.5 ft & 5.75 ft (midpoint) from the west wall. A 20-degree line is drawn through PrayerMan, from the intersection of the west wall & glass partition, out into the street. This is the PrayerMan-Darnell line. A Frazier-Darnell line of 23 cm (which corresponds to 46 ft) is constructed, intersecting the PrayerMan-Darnell line. This gives a Frazier-Darnell-PrayerMan angle very close to 5.0 degrees. This gives a PrayerMan-Darnell measure of 23.5 cm (i.e. 47 ft). Hence there will be a correction factor of 47/46 when comparing PrayerMan & Frazier's measured heights. From previous work, I obtained a full-page blowup of PrayerMan's entranceway area at the local library. Using the brightly-lit top step as a guide (at p. 517 the last post at Who is Prayer Person?http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,8916.4128.html)I construct a horizontal line representing the landing. From this landing I measure Frazier's height as 5.2 cm, and PrayerMan's height as 4.5 cm. Since Frazier is 6-foot tall, PrayerMan approximates as (4.5)(47/46)(6/5.2) = 5.3 ft or 5 foot 3 3/4 inches. 2) The Tony Fratini Tie Man method, on pp. 519 and 520 of that giga-thread PrayerMan and Tie Man are very nearly the exact same perceived height. Tie Man, when compared to the 2.5 ft radiator beside him, is about 5.9 feet Since PrayerMan is at the front edge of the landing, basic trigonometry places the radiator approximately 4.25 feet behind him. If we set PrayerMan at 47 feet from Darnell's camera, the radiator is 51.25 feet from it. So that PrayerMan is (5.9)(47/51.25) = 5.4 ft or 5 foot 4 3/4 inches ************************** I have only 3.3 kB of alloted graphics-posting space left and am unable to post even my 10 kB entranceway graphic. Somebody with the appropriate computer software is hereby invited to display what results these methods give them.

19. New Details Uncovered in 1972 Disappearance of Congressman Hale Boggs

Something is dreadfully wrong, and it seems like the Air Accident Report. According to the FBI telex, Engler contacted the FBI in Los Angeles at 8:51 AM Pacific Standard Time. He provided the whereabouts of the downed plane, and the FBI forwarded that information to the LA Coast Guard. At 9:10 AM PST Engler re-contacted the FBI and said he was tracking men, not the plane. The Bureau also forwarded this information to the Coast Guard. The description Engler gave is near the Malaspina Glacier beside Yakutat Bay. This is roughly 57-58% of the distance from Anchorage to Juneau. The Report states that the pilot expected a 3 1/2 hr flight, using an airspeed of 170 knots. It states that the Cessna departed at 8:59 Alaska Standard Time, which is 7:59 PST. If that is the true departure time, the Cessna was only in the air about 50 minutes before Engler reported it down. That is only about 23-24% of its expected flight time. I suspect that the Report fudged the Cessna times. I also suspect that Engler was tracking it while it was in flight. I also suspect that Engler was working for TRW Systems in Los Angeles, which by the early 70's had developed the Rhyolite spy satellite for the CIA, which could read data on the ground. October 16, 1972 was a Monday.
20. New Details Uncovered in 1972 Disappearance of Congressman Hale Boggs

Engler has since moved; I have his current phone number. His picture fits the estimated age of the FBI tipster, he looks about 75 these days, and is shown on page 5 in a 2011 in a Knights of Columbus bulletin for a one-page article he wrote- "Hungary Adopts New Pro-Life, Pro-Marriage Constitution". If the following URL does not connect, try googling Knights Columbus bulletin 5300 to get www.kc5300.org/ and add on the rest of the information- 1684/docs/2011/Sep-Oct2011CouncilBulletin.pdf https://www.kc5300.org/1684/docs/2011/Sep-Oct2011CouncilBulletin.pdf Engler is also listed in correspondence from 1979-1986 among the papers of noted teacher and Benedictine monk Paul Marx, who founded the Human Life Center in 1971 and taught at St. John's University in Collegeville, Minnesota. So the big question is- what's a guy like him doing with top-secret technology, using it to locate Boggs' plane? i.e. does he have a secret life as an NSA surveillance technician? His short name fits perfectly into the short blackmark redaction on p. 2 of the FBI telex- AT NINE TEN AM [ENGLER] TELEPHONICALLY RECONTACTED LOS ANGELES FBI OFFICE AND FURNISHED FOLLOWING INFORMATION; QUOTE TRACKING EQUIPMENT NOW BEING USED IS TRACKING THE MEN AND NOT THE PLANE. UNQUOTE [ENGLER] STATED THIS INFORMATION MAY BE SIGNIFICANT, AND SUGGESTS PASSENGERS HAD DEPARTED DOWNED PLANE. AT THIS TIME INQUIRY WAS MADE OF [ENGLER] IF HE WOULD SUBMIT TO PERSONAL INTERVIEW FOR FULL DETAILS AND HE REPLIED QUOTE NO UNQUOTE. I don't mind calling this guy, once I get my head screwed on straight with some questions and follow-ups. Nick Begich seems like a great guy, he's got his own website that researches HAARP, Tesla and other interesting stuff that's up my alley, he's done work on behalf of indigenous peoples in Alaska, I'm sure he'd be deeply appreciative of anything I could dig up. Toss out any potential questions or ideas, procedures, you might have- I'll give this a couple days.
21. New Details Uncovered in 1972 Disappearance of Congressman Hale Boggs

Scott, Thanks for the Aircraft Accident Report. What popped out at me was that the 100-hour inspection was completed on October 15th, up in Fairbanks, the day before the Cessna disappeared. It was apparently performed by employees of Pan Alaska Airways. The pilot, who was president of Pan Alaska, flew from Fairbanks to Anchorage the night of the 15th, and picked up Hale Boggs, Nick Begich & Russ Brown the morning of the 16th. The Report said it "cannot exclude the possibility of an in-flight malfunction or catastrophic component failure." Poor weather was blamed, but the pilot was very experienced and chose to fly by Visual Flight Rules. I've been to Anchorage International 6 times and also flown in bush planes w/ pontoons in & out from Dutch Harbor in the Aleutians, wind or fog can materialize from out of nowhere, but anybody who flies in that terrain has to be top-notch. The Washington publication Roll Call was investigating congressional deaths and found the FBI telexes through a Freedom of Information Act request. At the bottom was written- "Additional handling instructions: Information contained herein is not to be repeated or released to press or public at any time." Clinton had given Boggs a ride to a Texas airport on the 15th, and Boggs flew to D.C. and connected with a flight to Anchorage. Eldest son Dr. Nick Begich gives a few more details in this 10-minute video:
22. One Last Thing Before Xmas Eve: 2nd Floor Lunch Room Encounter

Bart, I welcome the challenge. If you are able, please avoid using colored fonts. They do not seem to print, and I get bug-eyed staring too long at the computer screen. Maybe grey will work for you. Thanks.
23. New Details Uncovered in 1972 Disappearance of Congressman Hale Boggs

There is even more to this story... if you google hale boggs plane crash, you should easily find the mother of all black operations blogspot, where Dr. Nick Begich talks about FBI telexes concerning the crash. be sure to watch his 7-minute video interview. Two people survived the crash, about 250 miles northwest of Juneau. Civilian-sector technicians, using sophisticated experimental surveillance equipment- technology that could pick out brain signals in the Alaskan wilderness- contacted the Coast Guard. In the related FBI telex, "(deleted) stated that this information may be significant, and suggests passengers had departed downed plane". http://www.check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/Images/Boggs_Telex1.jpg http://www.check-six.com/lib/Famous_Missing/Images/Boggs_Telex2.jpg Also of interest is that this site's article alleges that "a young Bill Clinton had been chosen to drive Hale Boggs to the airport on the day that Boggs' plane would later be reported as missing."
24. One Last Thing Before Xmas Eve: 2nd Floor Lunch Room Encounter

Debra Conway's classic 2001 article "The Secret Service Agent on the Knoll", at footnote 3, links [1] and [2], take you to the Booth A & TT document. http://www.jfklancer.com/knollagent/index.html