Cockburn on 9/11 CTs

[Steven Gaal]

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CIA is connected to COLOR revolutions/Soros is connected to color revolutions. Soros is connected to West China unrest areas and so is the CIA. Soros was/is very close to Rockefeller family that funded false left 50-60s (Soros funds same left people/organizations today). sg

Just saying it doesnt make it so, the real world isnt like OZ where repeating something over and over (while clicking your heels/mouse) makes it come true.

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COLBY QUOTE // Other than two quotes the page is just a collection of links.??

What ,sorry the fellows links are part of his research. "OTHER THAN ??? You are kidding ? Weak response/analysis.

Unless the reader has several spare hours a collection of 20 odd links is not documentation. If the claims are true the authors should be able to spell out their case more succinctly.

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COLBY SAID REGARDING MY SOROS COLOR REVOLUTION DATUM "Just saying it doesnt make it so, the real world isnt like OZ where repeating something over and over (while clicking your heels/mouse) makes it come true." ++o

Sorry,no sir. My goal on the EDUCATION FORUM is education ,not debating points.

Colby does not live in KANSAS anymore,but does live in OZ dream world.

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CIA Discovered Planning Soft Revolution in Early 2009

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14082 (SOROS CIA)

The Intelligence Ministry official said that $32 million of the $75 million allocated by the U.S. Congress to destabilize Iran was spent on this project.

The CIA used institutions such as the Woodrow Wilson Foundation, the Soros Foundation, AIPAC, and charity organizations and sought the help of William Burns and other people in the United States and agents in the Azerbaijan Republic, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait.

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Mark MacKinnon, Georgia revolt carried mark of Soros. The Globe and Mail: November 23, 2003: link http://www.markmackinnon.ca/dispatches_georgia3.html

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Colour-Coded Revolutions and the Origins of World War III

Part 2

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15767

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Google's Revolution Factory - Alliance of Youth Movements

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23283 (RAND CORPORATION CIA FRONT)

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link http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/05/05/podcast-show-42/

Dr. Aland Mizell joins us to discuss the controversial Turkish Imam Fethullah Gulen and his rapidly expanding cult globally and here in the United States. He provides us with a rarely discussed biography of Gulen and his movement, the cults objective of reviving the Ottoman Empires glory and Gulen Missionaries expansion into Central Asia and further around the world. He talks about Imam Gulens charter school empire in the United States, operated under absolute secrecy, the Turkish Missionaries Lobbyists targeting US federal and state governments, Gulens CIA connections and historical joint operations, the connection between Gülen and the Unification church- aka the Moon-cult, the oath of secrecy taken by all Gulen cult members, and more. Also, in the second half of our show we are joined by Bill Thacket, a parent of one of Gulen Charter Schools former students.

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link http://gulentrial.org/gulen/6_defamation_cases.pdf (GULEN SOROS)

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Is Fethullah Gulen Working for the CIA

link http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/is-fethullah-gulen-working-for-the-cia/

It is no secret that the CIA and Washington support Gulenists in Central Asia to counter the Iranian version of the Shia religious influence there. After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, there was a social, political, and religious vacuum. Central Asian states were weak, so obviously the world would ask who would fill that vacuum. Even at that time when Gulen sent his followers to Central Asia, he asked them to hasten, urging, If you dont go now, later this door could be closed, and others will fill your place. It was not a surprise that Islam filled that vacuum because the majority of the Central Asian countries have a Muslim heritage. Having recently emerged from an atheistic Communism, they more readily embraced their traditional religion. But after the collapse of Soviet Union the balance of power changed as well. Before this downfall, the East was dominated by the Soviet Union and the West by America, but afterwards the United States became the single superpower and thus had its chance to extend its power to Central Asia.

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CHINA: THE NEXT THEMED REVOLUTION BROUGHT TO YOU BY SOROS, WIKILEAKS & CO.

link http://alexandravaliente.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/china-the-next-themed-revolution-brought-to-you-by-soros-wikileaks-co/ (SOROS CHINA)

Edited September 15, 2011 by Steven Gaal

[Len Colby]

COLBY SAID REGARDING MY SOROS COLOR REVOLUTION DATUM "Just saying it doesn’t make it so, the real world isn’t like OZ where repeating something over and over (while clicking your heels/mouse) makes it come true." ++o

Sorry,no sir. My goal on the EDUCATION FORUM is education ,not debating points.

Colby does not live in KANSAS anymore,but does live in OZ dream world.

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CIA Discovered Planning “Soft Revolution” in Early 2009

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14082 (SOROS CIA)

The Intelligence Ministry official said that $32 million of the $75 million allocated by the U.S. Congress to destabilize Iran was spent on this project.

The CIA used institutions such as the Woodrow Wilson Foundation, the Soros Foundation, AIPAC, and charity organizations and sought the help of William Burns and other people in the United States and agents in the Azerbaijan Republic, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait.

Gee, a report from Iran’s state run news agency claiming the US is trying to overthrow it, why am I not impressed?

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Mark MacKinnon, Georgia revolt carried mark of Soros. The Globe and Mail: November 23, 2003: link http://www.markmackinnon.ca/dispatches_georgia3.html

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Colour-Coded Revolutions and the Origins of World War III

Part 2

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15767

Congratulations Gaal, for once you seem to have documented a claim, I guess that adage about ‘stopped clocks’ is true. So yes it seems that the USG (including the CIA) and some US foundations (including Soros’s) aided pro-democracy groups in former Soviet republics. However you failed to establish the CIA and Soros were working in conjunction. And your ‘logical’ construct i) Soros and the CIA both aided pro-democracy activists, ii) Soros gave money to Pacifica etc, iii) Amy Goodman works for Pacifica – therefore Goodman is a CIA stooge doesn’t follow.

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Google's Revolution Factory - Alliance of Youth Movements

link http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23283 (RAND CORPORATION CIA FRONT)

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link http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/05/05/podcast-show-42/

Dr. Aland Mizell joins us to discuss the controversial Turkish Imam Fethullah Gulen and his rapidly expanding cult globally and here in the United States. He provides us with a rarely discussed biography of Gulen and his movement, the cult’s objective of reviving the Ottoman Empire’s glory and Gulen Missionaries expansion into Central Asia and further around the world. He talks about Imam Gulen’s charter school empire in the United States, operated under absolute secrecy, the Turkish Missionaries’ Lobbyists targeting US federal and state governments, Gulen’s CIA connections and historical joint operations, the connection between Gülen and the Unification church- aka the Moon-cult, the oath of secrecy taken by all Gulen cult members, and more. Also, in the second half of our show we are joined by Bill Thacket, a parent of one of Gulen Charter Schools’ former students.

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link http://gulentrial.org/gulen/6_defamation_cases.pdf (GULEN SOROS)

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Less than impressive, there was only one mention of Soros on the page. Apparently Gullen won a defamation suit against Milli Çözüm, a newspaper, which had claimed, among other things that, “Gülen schools have relation with Soros Foundation, which overthrew Askar Akayev”. The paper seems quite obscure it is not on Wikipedia’s of Turkish newspapers and based on the Google Translation of its homepage it is a highly partisan publication.

Is Fethullah Gulen Working for the CIA

link http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/is-fethullah-gulen-working-for-the-cia/

It is no secret that the CIA and Washington support Gulenists in Central Asia to counter the Iranian version of the Shia religious influence there. After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, there was a social, political, and religious vacuum. Central Asian states were weak, so obviously the world would ask who would fill that vacuum. Even at that time when Gulen sent his followers to Central Asia, he asked them to hasten, urging, “If you don’t go now, later this door could be closed, and others will fill your place.” It was not a surprise that Islam filled that vacuum because the majority of the Central Asian countries have a Muslim heritage. Having recently emerged from an atheistic Communism, they more readily embraced their traditional religion. But after the collapse of Soviet Union the balance of power changed as well. Before this downfall, the East was dominated by the Soviet Union and the West by America, but afterwards the United States became the single superpower and thus had its chance to extend its power to Central Asia.

No evidence is provided in support of the claims

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CHINA: THE NEXT THEMED REVOLUTION BROUGHT TO YOU BY SOROS, WIKILEAKS & CO.

link http://alexandravaliente.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/china-the-next-themed-revolution-brought-to-you-by-soros-wikileaks-co/ (SOROS CHINA)

Sorry, Wayne Madsen is a crackpot. Par for the course he claims that his story is based on secret sources and documents only he has spoken to or seen.

[Steven Gaal]

POINT ONE ###o### // Colby wont accept the Jerusalem Post as a source. Do we need anymore proof he is a antisemite ??

LINK http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=62634

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Sibel Edmonds: Additional Omitted Points in CIA-Gulen coverage; A Note from ‘The Insider’

Crucial Details Missing in the MSM Coverage of the Recent Intel Chief’s Exposé

Last week I wrote about the Washington Post’s incomplete and one-sided coverage of the recently published memoir by former Turkish Intelligence Chief Osman Nuri Gundes exposing CIA Operations via an Islamic Group in Central Asia. Since then I have gone over the same book’s review and coverage by the Turkish mainstream media, and I have interviewed reporters and sources in Turkey who have read the book, followed the coverage, and or are intimately familiar with the topic. With that I now have several additional points on this exposé which further illustrate the journalistically mind-boggling piece marketed by the Post. Writing my previous piece cost me an associate whom I like and respect. It shouldn’t have. I still believe this was a case of institution-Government-editors vs. the journalist, with the former winning. I am not going to weigh my writing, modify my facts, alter the truth, tweak, and censor based on worries of losing a source, or a friend, or even readership. With that said I’ll briefly list my points gathered from documented facts and interviews, and sources familiar with Gundes’ recent book and Gulen.

Extensive Coverage in the Turkish Mainstream Media

As one might expect, the Turkish mainstream media (all major newspapers, magazines, radio & TV channels) extensively (and very intensely) covered the recent publication of Gundes’ book. The following are the main points on former Turkish Intel Chief Gundes’ CIA-Gulen allegations which were documented and reported by every single media outlet in Turkey (since mid December), including this one written by one of the most prominent journalists at Milliyet:

1- In Central Asia, within Gulen’s Islamic schools, the CIA operatives worked under the guise of ‘American Teachers teaching English.’

Okay, the Washington Post article, going through the exact same publications/articles forgot to add these crucial details, which would have paved the way for journalistic investigation(s) leading to either confirmation or denial. The following is the only detail the article provided:

In the 1990s, Gundes alleges, the movement “sheltered 130 CIA agents” at its schools in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan alone

In this case, as others had done already, the existence of mysterious American teachers teaching English in Gulen’s schools in Central Asia has already been confirmed.

2- The American Teachers working at Gulen’s Islamic Schools in Central Asia possessed US Diplomatic Passports.

I contacted my source, formerly with the State Department, and he confirmed issuing diplomatic status for at least 50 Americans to teach in former Soviet republics. When I asked him whether they were employed by the State Department, he said: ‘Not officially.’ I asked him whether they were connected to the CIA, and he responded, ‘I wouldn’t know.’ I inquired about the direct foreign employer(s) of these American teachers, and this was his response: ‘Private Turkish companies in education fields and several NGOs in Turkey.’ This particular source was retired in 2004.

Again, the Washington Post article conveniently omitted this particular detail. Publishing this detail would have required seeking comments from the State Department: “Have you issued diplomatic passports to American teachers in XYZ countries.” Of course, no such inquiry was ever made by the Post.

3- Gundes provided details of a high-level official meeting attended by MIT officials, one of Gulen’s education foundation directors, the Minister of Turkish Education Ministry Department and other high-level bureaucrats, an official from the Prime Minister’s Office, and several owners of Gulen private schools. The location for this briefing where CIA operative teachers with US Diplomatic passports were discussed was at ‘Ogretmen Evi’ and the host was the Director of Foreign Study Program at the Turkish Education Ministry. The meeting was ‘recorded,’ and an official report was prepared. The report included the following details:

One of the attending Gulen school owners owned and operated 18 schools for Gulen in Uzbekistan. The CIA operation disguised under ‘Teaching English’ at these 18 schools in Uzbekistan consisted of 70 CIA operatives, operating under a project named ‘Friendship Bridge’ (Operation Code Name). The operatives also submitted reports to a certain arm of the Pentagon.

The same operation (name not mentioned) had 60 American-CIA operatives as English teachers in Kyrgyzstan; again carrying US Diplomatic Passports.

The meeting (briefing) and analyses were later included in an official government report (Turkish Government) on Gulen’s operations which was ‘published.’

Again, the Turkish media quotes and covers these detailed allegations. None of these details, and what’s alleged as evidence by Gundes, were covered by the Post. After all, how difficult would it be to follow up and check out these American ‘teachers’ with Diplomatic Passports in the named countries? Make some use of the Post’s foreign correspondents and partners stationed/anchored there? No; the Post would not dare open that can of worms. So what do they do instead: Take out all the details, get lies as quotes from the implicated CIA source, and say, ‘hmmmmm, see, nothing there.’

This is consistent with Gulen’s own media networks’, such as Today’s Zaman’s, no-denial denial operation mode. Remember, these are the same groups who deny Gulen’s 100+ charter school operations in the United States (See here), and this, despite all the documentation and hundreds of witnesses’, including former and present Americans teachers who have worked at these charter schools. Today’s Zaman, one of Gulen’s propaganda machine arms, desperately denies Gunes’ exposé, and in doing so in such desperation, it ends up with a jumble of no-denial denial (see here).

Another point worth mentioning: You’d think with all the court documents and previous reports on FBI-DOJ and the Homeland Security Department vehemently opposing Gulen’s residency request in court(s), the Washington Post would contact their plentiful DOJ-FBI-DHS sources and ask for statements; right? Well, they didn’t. In the Gulen court case we had the CIA pushing big time for Gulen’s residency request, and DOJ-FBI-DHS opposing it. Why? Why did the FBI-DOJ-DHS oppose Gulen in court? I’d say this much-First Hand information, in this case: Based on FBI-DHS joint investigations of Gulen (White Collar Crime) and the involved files, they had plenty of reasons to oppose.

Finally, as a side note, the Post, at least Mr. Stein, was very familiar with my statements regarding Gulen-CIA-Central Asia operations; including the interview I gave to the American Conservative Magazine’s Phil Giraldi. Had Mr. Stein bothered to contact me he would have gotten what the Washington Post wished not to get.

I am going to end this post with a short piece provided to our BFP readers in the US by one of my sources in Turkey who has gone through Gunes’ book, and is a journalist with inside information and unique access to those closely involved in Gulen related investigations-operations:

Fethullah Gülen & the Origin of the Turkish Deep State

By ‘The Insider from Turkey’

Those who think the Turkish/Islamic preacher Fethullah Gülen was introduced to the CIA after he had left Turkey and established himself in Pennsylvania are missing the point. Same with those who are under the impression that the Gülen movement is primarily of a religious nature.

The first contacts of Gülen with the CIA go back to way before, we learn from the recently published book The witness of takeovers and anarchy by Osman Nuri Gündes, a former operative of the Turkish intelligence outfit MIT. In the eighties Gülen associated himself with fierce anticommunist circles in Turkey supported by the joint CIA and the secretive stay behind network, Gladio. We are talking about the same Gladio which was responsible for a series of far right terrorist attacks in Turkey and who composed the overture of the bloody 1980 takeover.

According to Osman Nuri Gündes, Gülen began his own anticommunist organization in the city of Erzurum. He also mentions Gülen with respect to Radio Free Europe, a CIA propaganda project against the Soviet-Union where previous CIA station chief Paul Henze was working as well. Henze has been described as one of the dark forces behind the takeover in 1980. Gülen’s main contact in the CIA however, was Morton Abramowitz, who was stationed in Turkey as a CIA employee before he came there as US ambassador. As mentioned previously on this website, Abramowitz later came to defend Gülen when he ended up having trouble with the US immigration service.

So, once upon a time Gülen was very close to structures in Turkey of which the remnants can still be recognized in Ergenekon, the network that targeted not only Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s AK-party government, but also the Gülen-movement. This is due to the fact that the previous anticommunist network in Turkey turned away from the CIA in post-Cold War days, while Gülen and his supporters in the Turkish government remained loyal to it.

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This article published at Boiling Frogs Post

link http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/01/11/additional-omitted-points-in-cia-gulen-coverage-a-note-from-%E2%80%98the-insider%E2%80%99/

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America's Global Role

Why the Fight for a Worldwide Open Society Begins at Home

Author:

George Soros

Publication:

The American Prospect

Date:

May 27, 2003

May 27, 2003—At the invitation of then–Dean Paul Wolfowitz, I delivered a commencement address at the Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies in Washington. I spoke about my vision for a global open society and Wolfowitz, now deputy secretary of defense, seemed to be on the same wavelength. We had both participated in a small group called The Action Council for the Balkans, which was agitating for a more muscular policy against Slobodan Milosevic. We advocated military intervention in Bosnia much sooner than it happened. I remember a lively exchange with Colin Powell when I questioned the Powell doctrine of "we do deserts but we don't do mountains." I was very supportive of Madeleine Albright's activism on Kosovo, where I was in favor of a coalition of the willing: NATO intervention without United Nations authorization.

On March 7, 2003, on the eve of war with Iraq, I gave another speech at the same graduate school. This article is adapted from that speech. I was then and continue to be in favor of the removal from power of Saddam Hussein, who was, because of his chemical and biological weapons, an even more dangerous despot than Milosevic. I would like to see regime change in many other places. I am particularly concerned about Zimbabwe, where Robert Mugabe's regime is going from bad to worse. I also see Muammar Quaddafi as a dangerous troublemaker in Africa. I support a project on Burma, or Myanmar as it is now called, which backs Aung San Suu Kyi as the democratically elected leader. I have foundations in central Asia, and I would like to see regime change in countries such as Turkmenistan. And, of course, I hoped for an easy victory in Iraq, if we went to war at all.

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PART THREE (part two) ###o### // "primary aim of US strategy would be to bar the rise of any future competitor that might challenge America's overwhelming military superiority."

Containing China: The US's real objective

By Michael T Klare

Slowly but surely, the grand strategy of the Bush administration is being revealed. It is not aimed primarily at the defeat of global terrorism, the incapacitation of rogue states, or the spread of democracy in the Middle East. These may dominate the rhetorical arena and be the focus of immediate concern, but they do not govern key decisions regarding the allocation of long-term military resources. The truly commanding objective - the underlying basis for budgets and troop deployments - is the containment of China.

This objective governed White House planning during the administration's first seven months in office, only to be set aside by the perceived obligation to highlight anti-terrorism after September 11, 2001; but now, despite President George W Bush's preoccupation with Iraq and Iran, the White House is also reemphasizing its paramount focus on China, risking a new Asian arms race with potentially catastrophic consequences.

Bush and his top aides entered the White House in early 2001 with a clear strategic objective: to resurrect the permanent-dominance doctrine spelled out in the Defense Planning Guidance (DPG) for fiscal years 1994-99, the first formal statement of US strategic goals in the post-Soviet era. According to the initial official draft of this document, as leaked to the press in early 1992, the primary aim of US strategy would be to bar the rise of any future competitor that might challenge America's overwhelming military superiority.

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SOROS can do so by helping China enter the "NEW WORLD ORDER". There are numerous articles and youtube video Soros interviews on this matter. THANKS Steven Gaal

Edited September 19, 2011 by Steven Gaal

[Len Colby]

How does any of this crap support your theory that numerous leftist intellectuals are CIA stooges?

[Steven Gaal]

How does any of this crap support your theory that numerous leftist intellectuals are CIA stooges?

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Temper,temper ,temper. NO need to be as angry as punker GG Allin. It was very smart,no,clever (better word here) of you to have diverted the issue. You didnt like my Soros/CIA connection/datum,so I show that they worked on similar (color revolution) projects . So we went down this avenue. In these color Soros revolutions,Soros works with honest left wing groups,but latter on the very conservative IMF/World bank come in with austerity measures and transnational trade agreements. The 'peoples' revolution has a 'hue' change. This is neocolonialism were you get a flag and vote, but it seem the people you vote for are beholden to elite banks/foreign transnational corporations.

^^^^^^^^ You see Soros subverts the left. To me this is 'on point' as too Soros funding leftist inside the USA, (as he Soros said in article cut pasted above) , the "fight...(revolution)....begins at home" . Soros does not use the phrase 'international' regarding his work to change society ( his 'Open Society' project ),but world wide change. This of course means change also inside the USA. THANKS Steve Gaal

Edited September 19, 2011 by Steven Gaal

[Len Colby]

Hate to disappoint you but I was bemused, not in the least bit upset, by your latest offering. Sorry but you have failed to show any ties between Soros and the CIA. During the 1960 people of good conscious were opposed to US participation in Vietnam, so was the USSR and it intel services. This does not mean that the former were tools of the latter.

I "diverted the issue"? LOL