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Len Colby

For those of you who think there could have been this Byzantine conspiracy & 14 years later none of the hundreds of people involved said anything

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3) Once again your post is irrelevant. Still waiting for examples of potential conspirators and/or truthers who've died mysteriously. All the examples I've seen so far were obscure nobodies, didN'T die suspiciously and/or were NOT challenging the accepted narrative of 9/11.

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Mr. Colby I never said people were killed I said >> confess 911 be killed. MR Colby is Straw MAN your middle name. ??

BS, in post #6 you wrote

Confess to 911 >> GET DEATH ,gaal

Then when I asked for examples you relied (post #8)

try this google ,gaal

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conspiracy people deaths related to 911

Where are KSM's children ?? gaal

You've yet to produce evidence they're missing. The BoP is on YOU.

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"When people suggest that whistleblowers would have come forward, of course, they usually have in mind people who, without being complicit in the operation, came to know about it afterward, perhaps realizing that some order they had carried out played a part in the overall operation. Many such people could be kept silent merely by the order to do so, along with the knowledge that if they disobeyed the order, they would be sent to prison or at least lose their jobs. (see Kevin Ryan as an example of this) For people for whom that would be insufficient intimidation, there can be threats to their families. How many people who have expressed certainty about whistleblowers would, if they or their families or their jobs would be endangered by coming forward with inside information, do so?

RE most of this post TL:DR

Or it could be people who were complicit and regret what they had done as well as those "realizing that some order they had carried out played a part in the overall operation" or those who observed what others had done. Nothing has happened to any of the various truthers and their families except for a few very low profile ones. Nor have AFAIK and whistleblowers or their families died mysterious deaths

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For those of you who think there could have been this Byzantine conspiracy & 14 years later none of the hundreds of people involved said anything

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SOME PEOPLE OFFERED REWARD

COMPARTMENTALIZED INFO VERY FEW PEOPLE KNEW ,gaal
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http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=BLEE&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go

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Do you intentionally format your posts to make them difficult to read? So of the hundreds of people who would have been involved some supposedly sold their souls to the devil for a few pieces silver ( a promotion) and the others? I like Richard Clarke but accounts of 9/11 related events have been known to have been at variance with those of others. But not even said the CIA held on to the info about the AQ operatives because they wanted 9/11. It seems to have been due to "the wall" between law enforcement and intelligence.

You indicated whistle blowers would be killed but people like Cowleen Rowley and Sibrel Edmounds and even ealier whitle blowers such as Agee are still very much alive as are CTs such as Griffin, Jones and Fetzer.

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/apr/14/nation/na-wall14_

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Posted Today, 08:41 PM

Do you intentionally format your posts to make them difficult to read? So of the hundreds of people who would have been involved some supposedly sold their souls // Colby

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Sibrel Edmounds and even ealier whitle blowers such as Agee are still very much alive // Colby

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January 15-February 2000 and Spring 2000) who knew the hijackers could have helped with this. Clarke mentions four officials who would have been involved in a decision to withhold information:

1. 36 font >> SAYS 4 > and you still say hundreds (NEED BIGGER FONT ?? )

2. Sibrel Edmounds and Agee they didn't suffer retaliation ?? SIR do you really know no history ??? gaal

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FAQ #12: Where are the 9/11 Whistleblowers?

SEE http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/758-faq-12-where-are-the-911-whistleblowers.html (a good read)

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is one of several government employees who was severely persecuted after blowing the whistle on 9/11

kevin-ryan-whistleblower.jpgFormer UL chemistry lab manager Kevin Ryan was fired after challenging his employer's role in NIST's WTC investigation

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Daily News @ http://RevolutionNews.US~ FOX EXCLUSIVE: Witnesses in Defense Dept. Report Suggest Cover-Up of 9/11 Findings By Catherine Herridge A document obtained and witnesses interviewed by Fox News raise new questions over whether there was an effort by the Defense Department to cover up a pre-9/11 military intelligence program known as "Able Danger." At least five witnesses questioned by the Defense Department's Inspector General told Fox News that their statements were distorted by investigators in the final IG's report -- or it left out key information, backing up assertions that lead hijacker Mohammed Atta was identified a year before 9/11....The IG report didn't accurately reflect her statements to investigators, she said, adding that she doesn't think the investigator simply misunderstood her. Lt. Col Tony Shaffer, an operative involved with Able Danger, said he was interviewed three times by Defense investigators . He claims it was an effort to wear down the witnesses and intimidate them. Two other witnesses, one a military contractor and the other a retired military officer, said they had the same experience. The two witnesses spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity because they said they feared retaliation. A fifth witness told Fox that statements to investigators were ignored. --

Edited by Steven Gaal

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Posted Today, 08:41 PM

Do you intentionally format your posts to make them difficult to read? So of the hundreds of people who would have been involved some supposedly sold their souls // Colby

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Sibrel Edmounds and even ealier whitle blowers such as Agee are still very much alive // Colby

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January 15-February 2000 and Spring 2000) who knew the hijackers could have helped with this. Clarke mentions four officials who would have been involved in a decision to withhold information:

1. 36 font >> SAYS 4 > and you still say hundreds (NEED BIGGER FONT ?? )

2. Sibrel Edmounds and Agee they didn't suffer retaliation ?? SIR do you really know no history ??? gaal

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FAQ #12: Where are the 9/11 Whistleblowers?

SEE http://www1.ae911truth.org/faqs/758-faq-12-where-are-the-911-whistleblowers.html (a good read)

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds is one of several government employees who was severely persecuted after blowing the whistle on 9/11

kevin-ryan-whistleblower.jpgFormer UL chemistry lab manager Kevin Ryan was fired after challenging his employer's role in NIST's WTC investigation

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Daily News @ http://RevolutionNews.US~ FOX EXCLUSIVE: Witnesses in Defense Dept. Report Suggest Cover-Up of 9/11 Findings By Catherine Herridge A document obtained and witnesses interviewed by Fox News raise new questions over whether there was an effort by the Defense Department to cover up a pre-9/11 military intelligence program known as "Able Danger." At least five witnesses questioned by the Defense Department's Inspector General told Fox News that their statements were distorted by investigators in the final IG's report -- or it left out key information, backing up assertions that lead hijacker Mohammed Atta was identified a year before 9/11....The IG report didn't accurately reflect her statements to investigators, she said, adding that she doesn't think the investigator simply misunderstood her. Lt. Col Tony Shaffer, an operative involved with Able Danger, said he was interviewed three times by Defense investigators . He claims it was an effort to wear down the witnesses and intimidate them. Two other witnesses, one a military contractor and the other a retired military officer, said they had the same experience. The two witnesses spoke to Fox News on the condition of anonymity because they said they feared retaliation. A fifth witness told Fox that statements to investigators were ignored. --

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Newly Released Memo: Government ‘Minders’ at 9/11 Commission Interviews ‘Intimidated’ Witnesses

Published April 27, 2009

April 27, 2009

History Commons Groups

A recently released 9/11 Commission memo highlights the role of government

“minders” who accompanied witnesses interviewed by the commission.

It was added to the National Archives’ files at the start of the year

and discovered there by History Commons contributor paxvector.

The memo, entitled “Executive Branch Minders’ Intimidation of Witnesses,”

complains that:

  • Minders “answer[ed] questions directed at witnesses;”
  • Minders acted as “monitors, reporting to their respective agencies on

    Commission staffs lines of inquiry and witnesses’ verbatim responses.”

    The staff thought this “conveys to witnesses that their superiors will

    review their statements and may engage in retribution;” and

  • Minders “positioned themselves physically and have conducted themselves

    in a manner that we believe intimidates witnesses from giving full and candid

    responses to our questions.”

The memo was drafted by three staffers on the commission’s Team 2, which

reviewed the overall structure of the US intelligence community.…

Edited by Steven Gaal

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Edmounds worked briefly for the FBI after 9/11 translating Turkish not Arabic or Phashto which she didn't speak (though she speaks Farsi which is related to the latter) and firing had nothing to do with 9/1!. She latter started making far fetched claims about things that would not have come into her purview.

Ryan was not an "insider" he worked for a water testing lab in Indiana purchased by UL shortly before 9/11. There was no substantiation for his claims and he was fired for using company letterhead to push them giving the impression his employer backed them.

Lindauer was according to several mental health professionals delusional. Only one person supports her claim she gave a vague pre-9/11 warning of a bombing in southern Manhattan. But if we are to believe her the Iraqi gov't was involved.

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Edmounds worked briefly for the FBI after 9/11 translating Turkish not Arabic or Phashto which she didn't speak (though she speaks Farsi which is related to the latter) and firing had nothing to do with 9/1!. She latter started making far fetched claims about things that would not have come into her purview.

Ryan was not an "insider" he worked for a water testing lab in Indiana purchased by UL shortly before 9/11. There was no substantiation for his claims and he was fired for using company letterhead to push them giving the impression his employer backed them.

Lindauer was according to several mental health professionals delusional. Only one person supports her claim she gave a vague pre-9/11 warning of a bombing in southern Manhattan. But if we are to believe her the Iraqi gov't was involved.

Articles by Kevin Ryan

Ryan is also the creator of the one-hour talk on the NIST Report 'A New Standard For Deception', which is the subject of this review.

Ryan was fired from Underwriters Laboratories immediately after the e-mail listed above became public. Ryan has filed a lawsuit against Underwriters Laboratories for wrongful termination, in order to ensure accountability of the taxpayer-supported agency. To support Ryan's effort, you can contribute to the Legal Defense Fund for Kevin Ryan.

For more articles by Kevin Ryan, see his blog: Dig Within, which has regularly updated content.

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Susan Lindauer Talks to WeAreChange Connecticut ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDNqy6BGLZE

Oct 5, 2012 - Uploaded by wearechangect

10/4/12 Whistleblower & activist Susan Lindauer talks to ... because she was NOT "crazy" and that ...

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/01/18/685452/-Breaking-DOJ-suddenly-drops-case-against-Andy-Card-s-cousin#

Lindauer's life up until the arrest certainly doesn't give the impression of a person operating in psychoses. She is the daughter of John Lindauer, a former Republican candidate for governor of Alaska. She majored in economics in college and worked for the United States Congress as well as several media outlets as follows ......

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As a U.S. Intelligence Asset, Susan Lindauer covered anti-terrorism at the Iraqi Embassy in New York from 1996 up to the invasion. Independent sources have confirmed that she gave advance warning about the 9/11 attack. She also started talks for the Lockerbie Trial with Libyan diplomats. Shortly after requesting to testify before Congress about successful elements of Pre-War Intelligence, Lindauer became one of the first non-Arab Americans arrested on the Patriot Act as an “Iraqi Agent.” She was accused of warning her second cousin, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card and Secretary of State Colin Powell that War with Iraq would have catastrophic consequences. Gratis of the Patriot Act, her indictment was loaded with “secret charges” and “secret evidence.” She was subjected to one year in prison on Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth, Texas without a trial or hearing, and threatened with indefinite detention and forcible drugging to shut her up. After five years of indictment without a conviction or guilty plea, the Justice Department dismissed all charges five days before President Obama’s inauguration.

Video from Portland, Oregon, August, 2011– on CIA’s advance warnings about 9/11 and cover up on the Patriot Act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg&feature=player_embedded

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http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&projects_and_programs=sibelEdmonds

April 2001: FBI Translators Learn Al-Qaeda Suicide Pilots Plan to Hit Skyscrapers in US and Europe

FBI translators Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar will later claim to know of an important warning given to the FBI at this time. In their accounts, a reliable informant on the FBI’s payroll for at least ten years tells two FBI agents that sources in Afghanistan have heard of an al-Qaeda plot to attack the US and Europe in a suicide mission involving airplanes. Al-Qaeda agents, already in place inside the US, are being trained as pilots. By some accounts, the names of prominent US cities are mentioned. A report on the matter is filed with squad supervisor Thomas Frields, but it’s unclear if this warning reaches FBI headquarters or beyond. The two translators will later privately testify to the 9/11 Commission. [WorldNetDaily, 3/24/2004; Salon, 3/26/2004; WorldNetDaily, 4/6/2004; Village Voice, 4/14/2004] Sarshar’s notes of the interview indicate that the informant claimed his information came from Iran, Afghanistan, and Hamburg, Germany (the location of the primary 9/11 al-Qaeda cell). However, anonymous FBI officials will claim the warning was very vague and doubtful. [Chicago Tribune, 7/21/2004] In reference to this warning and apparently others, Edmonds will say, “President Bush said they had no specific information about September 11, and that’s accurate. However, there was specific information about use of airplanes, that an attack was on the way two or three months beforehand, and that several people were already in the country by May of 2001. They should’ve alerted the people to the threat we were facing.” [Salon, 3/26/2004] She will add, “There was general information about the time-frame, about methods to be used but not specifically about how they would be used and about people being in place and who was ordering these sorts of terror attacks. There were other cities that were mentioned. Major cities with skyscrapers.” [Independent, 4/2/2004]

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July-August 2001: FBI Agent Is Deliberately Deceived regarding Skyscraper Warning

According to statements by FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds in 2004 and 2005, in July or August 2001, an unnamed FBI field agent discovers foreign documentation revealing “certain information regarding blueprints, pictures, and building material for skyscrapers being sent overseas. It also reveal certain illegal activities in obtaining visas from certain embassies in the Middle East, through network contacts and bribery.” The document is in a foreign language and apparently the agent isn’t given an adequate translation of it before 9/11. Approximately one month after 9/11, the agent will suspect the original translation is insufficient and will ask the FBI Washington Field Office to retranslate it. The significant information mentioned above will finally be revealed, but FBI translation unit supervisor Mike Feghali will decide not to send this information back to the field agent. Instead, he will send a note stating that the translation was reviewed and the original translation was accurate. The field agent will never receive the accurate translation. This is all according to Edmonds’s letter. Edmonds will claim Feghali “has participated in certain criminal activities and security breaches, and [engaged] in covering up failures and criminal conducts within the department.” While the mainstream media will not report on this incident, in January 2005 an internal government report will determine that most of Edmonds’s allegations have been verified and none of them could be refuted. [Edmonds, 8/1/2004; Anti-War (.com), 8/22/2005]

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September 20, 2001 and After: FBI Translator Sees Pattern of Deliberate Failure

Immediately after beginning her job as an FBI translator, Sibel Edmonds encounters a pattern of deliberate failure in her department. Her supervisor, Mike Feghali, allegedly says, “Let the documents pile up so we can show it and say that we need more translators and expand the department.” She claims that if she was not slowing down enough, her supervisor would delete her work. Meanwhile, FBI agents working on the 9/11 investigation would call and ask for urgently needed translations. In January 2002, FBI officials will tell government auditors that translator shortages are resulting in “the accumulation of thousands of hours of audio tapes and pages” of material that has not been translated. [Washington Post, 6/19/2002] After she discloses this in an October 2002 interview with CBS’ 60 Minutes, Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) says of her charges, “She’s credible and the reason I feel she’s very credible is because people within the FBI have corroborated a lot of her story.” He points out that the speed of such translation might make the difference between an attack succeeding or failing. [CBS News, 10/25/2002; New York Post, 10/26/2002] An investigation by the Justice Department’s Inspector General’s Office

One of Sibel Edmond’s main assignments as a contract FBI translator is to expedite requested translations from field agents. Shortly after she is hired by the FBI, an Arizona field agent requests that certain material be re-translated. He is concerned that the original translation may not have been thorough enough. When she does the re-translation, she discovers that it contains information extremely relevant to the September 11 attacks, including references to “blueprints, pictures, and building material for skyscrapers being sent overseas” It also “reveals certain illegal activities in obtaining visas from certain embassies in the Middle East, through network contacts and bribery” (see July-August 2001). [Edmonds, 8/1/2004] After re-translating the documents, she goes to supervisor Mike Feghali and says, “I need to talk to this agent over a secure line because what we came across in this retranslating is gigantic, it has specific information about certain specific activity related to 9/11.” But Feghali refuses to send the retranslation to the same agent, telling her, “How would you like it if another translator did this same thing to you? The original translator is going to be held responsible.” The agent never receives the re-translation he requested from Edmonds. Instead he is told by the Washington field office that the original translation is fine. [Boston Globe, 7/5/2004; Edmonds, 8/1/2004]

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Gaal - I asked about people who would've been involved in carrying out the supposed 9/11 inside job.

Edmounds only joined the FBI as a civilian contractor AFTER 9/11.

Kevin Ryan worked for a water testing company purchased by UL shortly before the attacks. It was NOT part of the standards testing division. He was fired for falsely indicating others at UL shared his views. 14 years after the attacks none of the other thousands of people who worked for the company have corroborated his claim company officials said it had tested steel used to build the WTC.

Several psychiatrists and judges concluded Lindaur was crazy. AFAIK she has yet to get a mental health professional to declare otherwise and not even she claimed to have been involved.

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