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Steve Dunnington
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1) Was the Mullen Company a front for the CIA so 'cover' could be given to agents ????
2) If so... did you continue to have any contact with the agency after leaving Mullen, were you any kind of an asset for the purposes of domestic or foreign intelligence????
3) Did your association with the Mullen company, Howard Hunt and other Watergate individuals lead you to any contacts that brought on your representation of Billie Sol Estes????
4) Was General Foods your cover employer at Mullen Company ???
5) Are you the same Douglas Caddy who as an attorney based in Houston, TX has written extensively on laws and regulations in the insurance industry???? ( I 'googled' your name and found some articles by one, Douglas Caddy)
I'll have some more questions soon...... that was a great article in The Advocate , by the way.
(1) The Mullen Company was a front cover for the CIA and, in fact, had been organized as an entity by the CIA. Its CIA background was disclosed in Senator Howard Baker's supplemental statement to the Senate Watergate Committee's final report.
I have never been employed by the CIA or any other intelligence organization. I did at one time join the Association of Former Intelligence Officers as an Associate Member by paying a one year's dues of $10 but did so because I was interested in receiving materials published by the organization. I never attended any of its meetings or met anyone associated with the organization.
When I was graduated from New York University School of Law I became an employee of General Foods Corporation at its White Plains, N.Y. headquarters. One of the reasons the company employed me was that while attending law school, I worked as an employee in the New York City private offices of then Governor Nelson Rockefeller, on the staff of Lt.-Gov. Malcolm Wilson. I was conversant with the New York political scene as well as national politics.
At no time while working for General Foods was I informed that the Mullen Company, which it retained to represent its Washington interests, was a CIA front. In 1969 General Foods assigned me from its headquarters to work in Washington as a prelude to opening its own office there with my being its chief spokesman in Washington. The company told me that for the first year I would be working out of the Mullen Company offices in the Kiplinger Newsletter Building. During that first year there several things occurred that raised questions in my mind about the Mullen Company but I never reached the ultimate conclusion that it was actually a CIA front. Howard Hunt came on board the Mullen Company some months after I began working out of its office, which was how I came to make his acquaintance. At no time was I ever on the payroll of the Mullen Company. I was exclusively employed by General Foods.
I should add that there has always been a question in my mind whether I was used by General Foods and the CIA unwittingly to provide "cover" for the Mullen Company. For example, I served on the Washington Representatives Committee of the Grocery Manufacturers of America, representing General Foods, which lent the air of legitimacy to the role of the Mullen Company being retained by General Foods. By the way, besides General Foods, the Mullen Company's second major client was the Mormon Church. Robert Mullen, a Christian Scientist by religion, was the author of a book on the history of the Mormon Church.
(2) I never had any contact with the Mullen Company after I left employment by General Foods other than my legal representation of Howard Hunt, who was a Mullen employee. Robert Bennett, now Senator Robert Bennett of Utah, apparently was misquoted by Woodward-Bernstein in the Washington Post after Watergate broke about my time at Mullen. He subsequently wrote me a letter of explanation. Bennett, a Mormon, had purchased the Mullen Company from Robert Mullen, apparently at the CIA's direction, about the time I left General Foods to join a law firm in Washington.
Bennett's letter is included in my professional files on the founding of the modern conservative movement, Watergate, Billie Sol, and other matters that I donated some years ago to the University Library Archives of the University of Oregon in Eugene, Oregon.
(3) No person that I was associated with at General Foods, Mullen Company, or in Watergate led me to representing Billie Sol. As I have previously explained, this came about through my acquaintance with Shearn Moody, a trustee of the Moody Foundation of Galveston, Texas.
(4) General Foods was my sole employer when I worked out of the Mullen Company offices at the behest of General Foods. I have concluded that General Foods knew the Mullen Company was a CIA front and that General Foods cooperated with the cover operation and undoubtedly benefitted from it by receiving "inside? government information that was beneficial to its corporate interests, much akin to the United Fruit Company.
(5) I am the author of two books on insurance, both published by the Texas A&M University Press.
Thank you Mr. Caddy for your answers to my questions. I have some great concern about Howard Hunt's status with the Mullen Company, the CIA and his employment at the White House. Since Mullen was controled by the CIA , Hunt must have been planted as a CIA operative at the White House. I can draw no other conclusion and would like to know if you agree or disagree.
The ramifications concerning Watergate are tremendous.!!!! But a bigger question is who engineered the entire " Hunt at the White House " scenario ???? And why??? Your comments and opinion would be appreciated
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1) Was the Mullen Company a front for the CIA so 'cover' could be given to agents ????
2) If so... did you continue to have any contact with the agency after leaving Mullen, were you any kind of an asset for the purposes of domestic or foreign intelligence????
3) Did your association with the Mullen company, Howard Hunt and other Watergate individuals lead you to any contacts that brought on your representation of Billie Sol Estes????
4) Was General Foods your cover employer at Mullen Company ???
5) Are you the same Douglas Caddy who as an attorney based in Houston, TX has written extensively on laws and regulations in the insurance industry???? ( I 'googled' your name and found some articles by one, Douglas Caddy)
I'll have some more questions soon...... that was a great article in The Advocate , by the way.
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I thought it might be a good idea to start a thread where we vote and speculate on who killed JFK.
I will start the ball by suggesting the Military Industrial Complex. The operation was a complete success and the group achieved all its objectives. This includes the cover up that involved the implication of several groups and individuals in the plot. One reason for this was to guarantee the help of these individuals and groups in the cover up. This involved implicating LBJ, the CIA, the FBI and the Secret Service. It also involved implicating the Kennedy brothers in other terrible events. This ensured that the Kennedy family and its close associates joined in the cover up. This cover up included both the Warren Commission and the House Select Committee of Assassinations (this involved a change in tactics with the finger now being pointed at the Mafia).
It also included a far more sinister cover up that will have long term implications for the history of the world. I believe that the CIA and FBI were involved in destroying a large number of documents relating to the assassination in November/December, 1963. These were replaced with false documents that have yet to be released. These documents will only become available when all those who are referred to are dead. These documents, because of the fact they have been held back, will be believed to be genuine. They will do two things: (1) They will show that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman. (2) They will link the Kennedy brothers with a series of crimes and wrongdoings, including the murder of Marilyn Monroe. Others smeared will be those associated with what the Military Industrial Complex would refer to as dangerous radicals (Martin Luther King, etc.)
I believe that the people behind the assassination were representatives of what Eisenhower called the Military Industrial Complex. The main objective was to ensure the continuance of the Cold War. To achieve this they had the convince the American public that they faced a real communist threat. The presence of a revolutionary communist government on its doorstep (Cuba) was permanent evidence of this. So also was the presence of WMD in the Soviet Union and China. As in Iraq, we now know the CIA and MI5 exaggerated this threat.
Therefore we have to identify the representatives of the Military Industrial Complex in the government. Their main man was John McCone, Director of the CIA. That is not to say that the assassination of JFK was a CIA operation (although it did use a CIA agent, David Morales, to organize the assassination).
McCone is a classical case of a representative of the Military Industrial Complex. The owner of a small engineering company before the war, between 1942-45 his new company, California Shipbuilding, made $44 million in profits from an investment of $100,000.
After the war McCone was brought into the government and served as Deputy to the Secretary of Defense (1948) and Under Secretary of the Air Force (1950-1951). What did he know about these matters? Only that it was in the best interests of MIC to spend increasing amounts of money on the arms trade. McCone was an ardent Cold War warrior and in 1956 attacked the suggestion made by Adlai Stevenson that there should be a nuclear test ban. McCone accused American scientists of being "taken in" by Soviet propaganda and of attempting to "create fear in the minds of the uninformed that radioactive fallout from H-bomb tests endangers life." Read that quote again if you did not get it the first time. Now that is what I call disinformation.
In 1958 Eisenhower appointed McCone as Chairman of the Atomic Energy commission. After the Bay of Pigs disaster, President John F. Kennedy sacked Allen W. Dulles as Director of the CIA. Under pressure from right-wingers in the intelligence community, Kennedy appointed McCone as the new director.
Morales was put in charge of the assassination. He employed people he had been working with in Miami to undermine the government of Cuba. This included figures in the ant-Castro Cuban community. It also involved American military advisers to groups like Alpha 66. The Cubans believed that the reason for this plot was that after the assassination of JFK, LBJ would order the invasion of Cuba. In fact, this was never the objective. It was part of the overall conspiracy to keep Castro in power. The presence of a communist state so close to the United States helped to reinforce the communist threat and the need for massive arms spending.
The Cubans would obviously feel betrayed when they realised Castro would not be toppled. Those Cubans who knew anything about the assassination had to be got rid of. Soon after the assassination most of this group were sent on a mission to kill Castro and create a reason for the United States to invade Cuba. This group was betrayed to the Cuban Secret Service. As a result they were executed in Cuba. A few Cubans remained. Some of these were the victims of hit men (who had no idea why they were killing them).
I believe one or two of these survived. They, like me, took out an insurance policy. They recorded what they knew about the case and placed the information with lawyers, solicitors, etc. These documents, tapes, etc. were only to be released in event of their dying in suspicious circumstances. These people have become untouchable. They are the only ones who will ever be able to provide any hard evidence of this conspiracy. Even if they do talk, they will only have evidence of a small part of the plot. No one will have information that implicates anyone higher than Morales. The conspiracy was a complete success. Or can we fight back?
Your assertion that the Bay of Pigs was meant to fail has been on my mind for years. Yes, a Soviet satelite 90 miles offshore is just what the Military Industrial Complex needed, wanted and were not about to get rid of. So my vote for JFK's assassin goes to this ,quite still active group. I always thought Allen Dulles' insistence that he be out of town to attend a scheduled confrence on " invasion day " at the BOP was so irresponsble!!!!!!!! His claim that canceling his trip would be a signal to the Soviets to be aware is pure cover. He did not want to be in D.C. He let General Cabell take the fall for an operation he knew was doomed to failure. Allen Dulles also was behind the planned failure of the U2 flight of Gary Powers. Which led to the failed Paris Summit. Esienhower really wanted to leave office making the end of the cold war a possibilty. A pursuit of peace was sabotaged and replaced with rancor and mistrust. In the biography Dulles, ( about John Foster, Allen and Eleanor) Bisselll says the U2 was built to last 2 years and it was now 5 years. In the meeting to approve the U2, Bissell said their flight would put them close to the Paris Summitt date. Esienhower says he did NOT want the mission to possibly jeopardize the summit. No flight was approved and Bissell and other assistants left, leaving Ike with Allen Dulles, the Sec'y of State and I think the joint chief chairman. Bissell said that Dulles showed up 2 hours later, happy as lark, he had got the flight windows approved[. The flights had to be completed two weeks before the summit was to start. The last day to go was May 1st....Mayday......Bissell said that if May 1st was necessay, they would NOT GO with the flights and risk really offending the Soviets , would they???? Dulles said the Russians would be celebrating and enjoying their holiday.. no problems should be anticipated........Gary Powers shot on May 1st......Summit a failure. Thank-you Allen Dulles. The Military Industrial Complex hard at work. Your John McCone assertions are on target. Did not McCone spend all day 11-22-63 with RFK ?? Is this when Bobby asked McCone if the CIA killed his brother??? Someone let me know please.
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I was born in Lancaster, Ohio in 1958. I graduated from Ohio State University in 1982 with a BA in political science. I have lived in the Phoenix area for twenty years and currently work for Microchip Technology of Chandler, AZ.
I started as a Watergate researcher/'buff' after college. I shook Richard Nixon's hand and spoke breifly to him at a fundraiser in Columbus in 1983. So now I became a dedicated Watergate historian, not trying to exonerate Nixon but fully knowing there had to be more to the scandal. Halderman's book of course relates Nixon's obsession with 'THE BAY OF PIGS' and wanting all the CIA's files on the invasion (denied by Helms). Halderman's assertion that the Bay of Pigs was a euphimism for JFK's assassination brought me closer to researching 11-22-63. Remember John Erlichmann's 'novel' 'The Company'......it's about a 'fictional' President being blackmailed by the Director of Central Intelligence. Of course the blackmail concerned secrets about a presidential assassination. But that's Erlichmann's fiction..?? I'd like to explore this on the forum, the Watergate/JFK connections.
Also from a newspaper my mother saved from Sunday 11-24-63 I found an article with a by-line by Aubrey Rike. Mr. Rike was one of the ambulance drivers who picked up the seizure victim, Jerry Belknap near the TSBD and took him to Parkland. I sent copies of the article to Mr. Rike and in a telephone call to him he denies writing the article at all. It is written in first person. I'm thinking of going to the Columbus Dispatch and see if they'll print a retraction or at least an aknowledgement that 42 years ago they ran a fabricated story with an unauthorized byline. Disinformation ??Harmless journalistic license ??? Maybe the forum can help me find some answers.
Watergate and the Kennedy Assassination
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E. Howard Hunt does appear to be involved in both the Kennedy Assassination and Watergate. As Hunt relates in "Undercover" his position at the CIA from late 1961 to 1965 was Chief of Covert Action for the Domestic Operations Division. CHIEF OF COVERT ACTION ........for DOMESTIC OPERATIONS.....for THE CIA ???? Hunt claims he wrote books and articles to provide dis-information. I think he was at the center of the domestic plans and schemes of the CIA. I believe I had read that the domestic operations division was responsible for de-briefing all U.S. citizens who had visited the Soviet Union and other Soviet bloc nations.
I am unsure about the domestic operations divison .....I would greatly appreciate any info anyone might have....if true however the implications are far far reaching
Howard Hunt "retired" from the CIA in 1970 and went to work for the Robert Mullen Company. Shortly thereafter he went to work at the White House, as a plumber and a part-time burgular. He still worked at the Mullen Company though.
However the Mullen Company was a CIA front; used to place agents and assets overseas and apparently at the White House. So Hunt's retirement was faked so his cover could be established at Mullen. A CIA agent employed at the White House......who implemented this plan????? Helms and who?? I can't believe it was Nixon. He would have not wanted Hunt reporting his special tasks back to Helms and the agency.
E. Howard Hunt does have alot of explaining to do. But that will never happen. This former chief of covert action needs to answer alot of questions....alot