Mineta disputes Cheney, Commission Report

[Jack White]

Norman Mineta Confirms That Dick Cheney Ordered

Stand Down on 9/11

Former Transportation Secretary Disputes 9/11 Commission Report Timetable for

Dick Cheney and Reveals Lynn Cheney Was Also in PEOC Bunker Before Attack

Aaron Dykes / JonesReport | June 26, 2007

Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered

questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his

testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.

Mineta says Vice President Cheney was "absolutely" already there when

he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential

Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta

seemed shocked to learn that the 9/11 Commission Report claimed

Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58-- after the Pentagon had been hit,

a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.

Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker

already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.

Mineta is on video testifying before the 9/11 Commission, though it

was omitted in their final report. He told Lee Hamilton:

"During the time that the airplane was coming into the

Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to

the Vice President…the plane is 50 miles out…the plane

is 30 miles out….and when it got down to the plane is 10

miles out, the young man also said to the vice president “do

the orders still stand?” And the Vice President turned and

whipped his neck around and said “Of course the orders still

stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?

Mineta confirmed his statements with reporters, saying "When I overheard

something about 'the orders still stand' and so, what I thought of was that

they had already made the decision to shoot something down."

Norman Mineta made it clear to reporters-- who verified his quotes in

written text alongside him-- that Mineta was indeed talking about a stand

down order not to shoot down hijacked aircraft headed for the Pentagon.

After no shoot down took place, it became clear that Cheney intended to

keep NORAD fighter jets from responding-- evidence that Cheney is

guilty of treason, not negligence for allowing the Pentagon to be hit.

The idea that "the order still stands" matches up with a change in NORAD and Pentagon orders--

issued on June 1, 2001, only months before 9/11. The document revoked the default standing

orders to shoot down errant or hijacked aircraft and instructed them instead to stand down until

they were given orders by the President, Vice President or Secretary of Defense.

Mineta was still in the PEOG bunker when the plane was reported down in Shanksville,

Pennsylvania.

"I remember later on when I heard about the Shanksville plane going down, the Vice President

was right across from me, and I said, 'Do you think that we shot it down ourselves?' He said, 'I

don't know.' He said, 'Let's find out.' So he had someone check with the Pentagon. That was

about maybe, let's say 10:30 or so, and we never heard back from the DoD until probably about

12:30. And they said, 'No, we didn't do it.'"

Of course, Donald Rumsfeld has stated before that the plane over Shanksville was "shot

down," though whether it was a mistatement or a freudian slip of the truth is arguable. It certainly

would seem that the story presented in United 93-- a dramatized account of the official

government story-- is much, much less plausible than the plane simply being shot down.

Norman Mineta's Testimony Before the 9/11 Commission-- which was NOT included in the final

report and which DISPUTES the Commission's timetable for Vice President Dick Cheney on

9/11

Also, the two hour time delay is suspicious given the Vice President's own account of the

dedicated video communications available that morning, as he told it to Tim Russert of Meet the

Press on September 16, 2001.

"We had access, secured communications with Air Force One, with the secretary of

Defense over in the Pentagon. We had also the secure videoconference that ties

together the White House, CIA, State, Justice, Defense--a very useful and valuable

facility. We have the counterterrorism task force up on that net. And so I was in a

position to be able to see all the stuff coming in, receive reports and then make

decisions in terms of acting with it."

At a bare minimum, this confirmation by Norman Mineta is in gross contradiction to the 9/11

Commission Report and poses serious questions about the Vice President's role in ordering

NORAD to stand down on 9/11.

[Evan Burton]

Nothing new there. We have been discussing this in the "Identifying 9/11 aircraft" thread.

Jack, do you mind if I merge your thread with that one? Seems logical to keep all the information in one thread where it can easily be found and referred to.