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> Three views of Mount Hadley, ...from Apollo 15 landing site.
Jack White
post Nov 28 2008, 10:48 PM
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Edited to correct error in graphic.

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Evan Burton
post Nov 29 2008, 04:58 AM
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Errr - huh?

In one view you are looking to the south (SSW) of the LM, and in the other you are looking to the west (WNW). Remember the directional system associated with the LM?



The ladder is on the 'west' side, and the big flat panel at the back of the LM is on the 'east' side.

So the views from the LM are about 90 degrees apart. So what is the problem with the images?

BTW, please remember to identify what images you are using by the catalogue number. That way people can independently confirm what you are saying.
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Jack White
post Nov 29 2008, 06:38 AM
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Edited for error.

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post Nov 29 2008, 08:27 AM
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Is there a reason that you seem reticent to give the image numbers?
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post Nov 29 2008, 10:56 AM
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I don't think Jack will be back to reply, so let me explain why I asked for the image numbers.

The images are from different Apollo missions.

The top-left image is a composite shot including AS17-147-22515 through AS17-147-22520. It shows the South Massif in the background.


AS17-147-22517

The bottom image is a composite pan shot including AS15-87-11835 through to AS15-87-11839. It has Mt Hadley in the background.


AS15-87-11838

I don't know why Jack would post this for amusement; it simply reinforces his track record of being sadly lacking in any skill regarding Apollo image analysis. If it was meant to be some type of joke ("amusement"), it was far too subtle.
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Jack White
post Nov 29 2008, 05:18 PM
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Graphic being reworked. Website I obtained the image from identified
this photo as showing Mt. Hadley. I am checking to see whether that
is correct.

Jack

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post Nov 29 2008, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 29 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Graphic being reworked. Website I obtained the image from identified
this photo as showing Mt. Hadley. I am checking to see whether that
is correct.

Jack



Yes...I doubled checked my graphic and it is correct. The two different
views from the landing site are mutually exclusive.

Jack
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post Nov 29 2008, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 29 2008, 07:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 29 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Graphic being reworked. Website I obtained the image from identified
this photo as showing Mt. Hadley. I am checking to see whether that
is correct.

Jack



Yes...I doubled checked my graphic and it is correct. The two different
views from the landing site are mutually exclusive.

Jack


This shows that the two views are mutually exclusive.

Jack
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post Nov 29 2008, 10:00 PM
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And still no image numbers...

ETA: BTW, like the way you have removed all evidence of your previous gross error. I think in time to come, you'll claim you never made the error.

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post Nov 30 2008, 01:25 AM
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Okay, I don't expect an answer.

The views are "incompatible" because they are images of different features.

One is of Mt Hadley, the other (the B&W copy of a colour image, AS15-87-11832) is of Swann Range.

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See here.
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post Nov 30 2008, 12:35 PM
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You can actually see the 'missing' portion from what Jack has chosen to show you here:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/a15.1472712pan8.jpg

Jack, for reasons known only to himself, has chosen to crop the image... which - if he had shown the whole image - would have easily explained the "discrepancy" that Jack "found".

As per usual, Jack is wrong and demonstrates his complete lack of ability when applied towards Apollo image analysis.

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post Dec 1 2008, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 30 2008, 07:11 AM) *
QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 29 2008, 07:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Jack White @ Nov 29 2008, 04:18 PM) *
Graphic being reworked. Website I obtained the image from identified
this photo as showing Mt. Hadley. I am checking to see whether that
is correct.

Jack



Yes...I doubled checked my graphic and it is correct. The two different
views from the landing site are mutually exclusive.

Jack


This shows that the two views are mutually exclusive.

Jack


And you start a new thread... where your mistakes aren't seen? Tsk, tsk, Jack.

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