Evan Burton

Now that I can agree to.

I see - it's always because they wanted you out. I believe you. Really.

Whilst we are at it, let's again review what Jack said:

Burton sidesteps the question and attempts to change the subject. All he has to do is produce a photo of ANY LRV

ON ANY APOLLO MISSION WHICH IS ATTACHED IN POSITION ON THE OUTSIDE OF A LUNAR MODULE, AND ANY PHOTO OF ANY ASTRONAUTS ASSEMBLING A ROVER FROM ANY MISSION.

WE have provided:

- Multiple images showing the LRV stowed in Quad I of the LM.

- Video images of the LRV being unloaded and assembled on the lunar surface.

Jack attempts to weasel out by claiming video is not a photo... but what is a photo and what is video?

A photograph (often shortened to photo) is an image created by light falling on a light-sensitive surface, usually photographic film or an electronic imager such as a CCD or a CMOS chip.

Video is the technology of electronically capturing, recording, processing, storing, transmitting, and reconstructing a sequence of still images representing scenes in motion.

Let's repeat that:

"... a sequence of still images..."

When I see them, I will admit being mistaken.

Yeah, sure you will.

Oh come Duane - you are on moderation because you can't discuss things in a polite manner! And that has been true for a number of forums, hasn't it? You are either moderated or banned from them... including a pro-hoax site, IIRC! So please, no pot calling the kettle black.

Nice try, but you still haven't answered: How can you explain that not one image, not one diagramme, not any piece of text or instruction or plan or anything has the LRV being mounted anywhere else but Quad I, which directly contradicts Jack's claim? Jack says it is one side (and produces no evidence for such) and EVERYTHING else says otherwise!

Is it the same error as before? It's working now for me.

Is this the same error that was encountered previously?

I am still trying to clear disk space. I've started with old attachments that have less than 5 views but it will take a while to bring us back under quota.

The deletion of Forum attachments will start this weekend. Please make sure you save all attachments you believe are important.

That is interesting; I'll have to buy the book.

On space matters, I found this quite interesting. I have to admit to not paying as much attention to current space activities as I had with Apollo:

http://i.usatoday.net/tech/graphics/iss_timeline/flash.htm

It's hardly the point. How can you explain that not one image, not one diagramme, not any piece of text or instruction or plan or anything has the LRV being mounted anywhere else but Quad I, which directly contradicts Jack's claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - or at least some evidence. No, Jack's claim (and false promise) falls down because he cannot supply any evidence to support his statement and everything else says he is wrong.

Good man. Though you might want to enquire off Websense, if you're interested, why their software excludes this site for reason 'potentially damaging content'.

My security software said it was ok to enter.

Ditto, though I still have scripts disabled.

This was sent to me by Bill Wood, and it is worth sharing. Bill was a lead engineer on the Apollo TV camera.

On April 11, 1961, I was assigned to a Pacific Missile Range tracking station on Tern Island in the French Frigate Shoals. We had been asked to track the Vostok missions. We modified our telemetry system to receive the Vostok T/M on 83 and 183 MHz and installed a low frequency interferometer array to receive the Vostok 20.005 MHz beacon. Shortly after sunset we first detected the HF beacon and then received both the 83 and 183 MHz telemetry downlinks. We were able to track the spacecraft visually with a Navy MK-51 gun director fitted with a large 20 power ship's binocular, that slaved our AGAVE telemetry antenna.

Since our normal 225-260 MHz tracking antenna did not cover the Vostok frequencies, we installed a standard Jerrold USA TV antenna on top of the quad helix to receive the signals. We had several Nems-Clarke 1502A, tunable from 55 to 260 MHz AM-FM, receivers to copy the signals. The attached photos show how the site, antenna, and MK-51 looked in March of 1961.

Vostok 1 was launched on a 65 degree inclination orbit. Tern Island was directly under the flight path with the spacecraft travelling from the northwest to the southeast. Since the mission was only one orbit, it never passed over any other US territory. It passed over the lower part of South America and up through central Africa and back over the Soviet Union. Check the attached pages from the site manual to see what the station looked like.

We knew beforehand that such a mission would occur. So the liftoff at the Baikonur launch facility on the other side of the International Date Line was not a surprise to us. What was surprising was the sophistication of the telemetry we recorded. I had worked with the Corona project with our best spacecraft at the time. But the Soviets used a very different telemetry system that used digital pulse position modulation instead of FM/FM modulation. It was tricky to record but was usable by those who looked at the data.

The one-two punch of the Yuri Gagarin flight, and the Bay of Pigs debacle a couple of days later must have energized Kennedy to find a way to recover national prestige. The very next month he announced his decision to go to the Moon in a speech before Congress on May 25, 1961. NASA then had to deliver on that promise.

Looking back these fifty years I feel proud to have been involved in manned spaceflight tracking from the very first day!

Bill Wood

Extract from Technical Manual, showing island layout and electronics cabinet configuration.

The real problem with CONTRAILS:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20304-contrails-warm-the-world-more-than-aviation-emissions.html

I'll start to delete some of my attachments; if I consider them important, they can be uploaded to my Photobucket site.

Thank you!

It looks like a good device; cops trying to deploy spike strips on the road in front of high speed chases often put themselves at great risk.

Will it stop the pursuits? I don't think so; the idiots will still think they can run, and they'll drive like madmen despite being on rims.

A slaughter is how most are describing it. Current predictions are for Labor to have 19 seats, the Lib / Nat coalition to hold 68 seats, including a large number of traditional Labor strongholds.

Average swing against Labor has been around 17%, but there have been swings as high as 35% against Labor. The Greens picked up some of the vote but don't look to have gained a seat (though they might get Balmain after postal votes are counted). If they do, it will be the first NSW lower house seat they have won.

We've already been through all this Dave, but you are welcome to try.... but remember:

Exit polls indicating a 16%, possible as high as 21%, swing against Labor. Labor could win as few as 13 seats; Libs expected to win by largest margin in Australian history.

Good riddance, and that's what happen when you are incompetent, corrupt and do not listen to the voters.

Thanks - we'll get it fixed as soon as we can.

Everything looks normal in the board settings; I'm guessing it is a bug beyond our control. We'll have to get a job logged with IPS, but we have to wait for John or Andy to do that as they are the registered owners.

This is what you are seeing?

I'm investigating the matter now.

ETA: By the way, when reporting faults it is very helpful to describe exactly what you were trying to do, and what happened. A screenshot can also be useful. You guys probably don't see any difference, but to me there is a great difference between an attachment being refused / rejected, and the upload failing.

Thanks!

David / Jack,

Can you explain what you mean by refused? These are image attachments, to a post?

Blah, blah, blah

Exactly what part of "Requires two people to unload and assemble" don't you understand?

And images have been provided to show the correct stowage location of the LRV, both packed and unpacked, on the ground and in space (obviously packed in space). It just demonstrates - again - that Jack fails to honour his commitments.