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  1. 6 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

    In this video, I could see Paul being transfixed on Barry Jones head for an hour straight.

    I could see where these big strapping , brawny American gun expert dudes could have a real unusual appeal to you guys from across the pond.

    Kirk, 

    You have my solemn promise that the moment I came across a worthwhile piece of work on the subject by anyone - be it a pink-haired, ethnic transgender amputee,  an opioid-dependent deplorable in a string vest and denim, or, that rarest  of things these days, a Deep State Dem with a scruple - I'll post it.

    Pip pip!

  2. 22 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

    Paul and Karl,

          For the benefit of people who prefer dialogue to watching YouTube videos, or X clips, can you tell us, using grammatical English sentences, what you believe occurred in the case of the recent Thomas Crooks assassination attempt on Trump?

          According to the Daily Mail, roughly 20% of the public, apparently, believes that the FBI conspired to kill Trump.

          What happened, in your opinions?

    Too early to be sure beyond the obvious broad outlines. For example, the dramatis personae, the real players, are by no means clear:

     

  3. On 8/10/2024 at 10:42 AM, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

    The meaning of "keeping the film largely out of public view" should be obvious to anyone with a reasonable command of English. The film was retained by Life, who were reluctant even to allow individual frames to be published. Bootlegs of the complete home movie circulated, but reached only a small proportion of the US population. Thus, the film was kept largely out of public view. This isn't difficult to understand, or at all controversial. There's a good account of the pre-1975 circulation of the film on pages 55-66 of David Wrone's The Zapruder Film: Reframing JFK's Assassination.

    Keeping the film largely out of public view until the immediate fuss had died down was all that needed to be done to prevent the public at large becoming aware of those aspects of the film which contradicted the lone-nut interpretation. There was never any need to alter the film, which is the primary reason no-one even attempted to alter it. The other reason, of course, was the practical impossibility of altering it, given the limited time available and the lack of appropriate equipment.

    So now we know – you haven’t viewed CBS-TV’s coverage on Monday evening, 25 November, and thus haven’t a clue what it contains. But you are prepared, nevertheless, to insist it did not contain any Zapruder film footage, however truncated on the grounds of taste. This is dismally typical of adherents of the Department of Zapruderland Security, where ignorance is knowledge and the recitation of establishment orthodoxy is preferred to critical examination of evidence. We have a further example of both.

    You cite Wrone, who,  in his brief history of Z-fake dissemination post-Shaw trial, offers us a classic limited hang-out, conceding that there were, at bare minimum, hundreds of small public gatherings, most obviously and typically at colleges across the US, where the revised version was shown in the period 1969 to 1975.

    By this assessment alone, viewers of the film, pre-ABC’s broadcast, ran, even allowing for repeat viewers and Wrone’s low-side figures for such gatherings, into the hundreds of thousands. What Wrone withholds from his readers is even more significant - the television showings, from the first, on Los Angeles’ KTLA-TV 5pm news in mid-February 1969, through those on a late night Chicago show, which subsequently syndicated it to stations in Philadelphia, Detroit, Kansas City & St Louis (1970-71), to its broadcast on small TV stations such as WITF (Harrisburg, Pennsylvania), which ran the film in late September 1973. The reach of these TV broadcasts has never been fully catalogued and explored, yet you again “know,” presumably via a hidden super-power, that which you cannot.

    The available evidence is clear, even from the limited sample I’ve run across, much of it inadvertently, that Wrone’s pseudo-survey ignores the numbers of Americans who saw the revised version of the fake on local television prior to the film’s TV “debut” on a network in early March 1975. None of this should come as a surprise, for as Wayne Philips, Direct of Public-Affairs for Time-Life Inc., conceded as early as July 1971, “Life no longer has control over the film. It has been shown repeatedly throughout the country.”

    “Largely out of public view”? Phooey: it was all over the place.

     

  4. On 7/21/2024 at 10:46 AM, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

    Paul Rigby writes:

    But CBS didn't show the film, did they? It was owned by Life, who kept it largely hidden from the public for 12 years.

    So a number of sources insist. It should therefore be a very straightforward matter for you to post a link to where you viewed CBS-TV's output from, let me be generous, say 8pm until close on the evening of Monday, 25 November 1963. 

    You did check this claim before posting it, didn't you? After all, it's not unkown in this case for widely accepted "truths" to be nothing of the sort.

    As a fair-minded chap, I extend my request to anyone to post such a link. And I do so from a concern that readers may harbour the entirely unfounded suspicion that you're once again winging it, and making claims you haven't checked.

    And as for Life keeping the film "largely" hidden, I do like that adverb. I assume it means something akin to "a bit pregnant." That is, it means the opposite, certainly after the second version of the Z fake was shown on LA's KTLA-TV 5pm news on 14 February 1969, and thereafter popped up on local TV stations across the country, was displayed in lecture halls, and so on and so forth, until it "debuted" on ABC in March 1975. And that's to ignore Life's occasional flashes of Zapruder's ankles prior to February 1969.

     

  5. 4 hours ago, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

    In how many official cover-ups have spectators' home movies or photographs been altered? This is at least the third time I've asked this question, and I'm still waiting for someone to produce a credible example (or indeed any example at all) of such alteration in any other assassination since the advent of photography.

    So far, there's nothing. Apparently, if the Zapruder film was indeed altered, it would be the first and only time something like this has happened.

    A paragraph of surpassingly cynical disingenuousness.

    Remind us - when did mass ownership of affordable portable film cameras occur? In America, the wealthiest country on earth, the 1950s. So the period between the creation of the Z-fakes and the plausible utilization of mass film camera ownership as cover, was, at most generous, a decade.

    Within that decade, name me any other target for CIA assassination that merited remotely comparable efforts to obscure and mislead through film? There aren’t any.

    Prior to that decade, newsreel cameramen were the only likely source of such film coverage, and hereby hangs a tale.

    The 1934 assassination of King Alexander I of Yugoslavia was the first caught on film. The cameraman was one George Mejat (1). The camera he used was cumbersome, required hand-cranking, and frequent change of reels. It was, in short, a technology best suited to “handling carefully staged public events, and so the footage of Alexander’s arrival and conversation” with the French foreign minister was “of far higher quality than the blurred, jerky images of the assassination itself.” (2) Yet capture them Mejat did, with interesting consequences.

    Before too many questions could be asked about Mejat’s admirable “luck” in positioning himself to capture the assassination – he was dead, allegedly of natural causes. Meanwhile his assassination sequence was used to “prove” that Alexander was assassinated by fringe domestic extremists, and not, as very good evidence suggested, by state apparatuses (most obviously Mussolini’s).

    He had served his purpose and was duly terminated.

    010405 K Brown, The King is Dead, Long Live the  Balkans! Watching the Marseilles Murders of 1934

    1- History Catcher: George Mejat (French documentary):

    2 - 010405 K Brown, The King is Dead, Long Live the  Balkans! Watching the Marseilles Murders of 1934:

    https://watson.brown.edu/files/watson/imce/research/projects/terrorist_transformations/The_King_is_Dead.pdf

    Highly recommended:

    K S Morawski, The assassination of King Alexander I of Yugoslavia in the light of archival press articles:

    https://rcin.org.pl/ihpan/Content/62823/PDF/WA303_82385_SDR-51-1-SI_Morawski.pdf

    Which leaves us with the question of lack of repetition by the CIA.

    First, have all assassination film sequences since 1963 been released and analysed? If so, by whom and when? Perhaps you would care to share the source of your confidence. Otherwise one might conclude your winging it and have no firm evidentary base for such a claim.

    Second, why would the CIA dedicate resources to lesser targets and run the risk of unwelcome scrutiny of the technique? It worked like a charm once, and that was likely enough.

     

     

     

  6. 2 hours ago, Karl Kinaski said:

     

    @Paul RigbyThis thrilling video raises more questions because the officer on the roof never saw Crooks, and Crooks didn't turn around, pointing his gun in the other direction. The time interval is too short. IMO, if a gun was pointed at this officer, it was likely from a sniper ready to take out this officer who was about to interrupt the imminent elimination of Donald Trump.

    The question remains: If a gun was pointed at this officer, whose gun was it?"

    Crooks never turned around the minute prior to the shooting, quote Gateway Pundit:

     

    Therefore the title of the video OFFICERS CONFRONT THOMAS CROOKS is wrong: Nobody confronted Crook's. The officer on the roof saw what his camera saw. No Crooks at all. Why he dropped back down without swinging his whole body unto the roof should be asked. When he dropped down, Officer TEDESKI who gave him the lift on the roof was gone! 

    Karl, 

    I agree! Have you ever seen a more half-hearted attempt by LEO to thwart a crime? 

  7. 1 hour ago, Paul Rigby said:

    "I F**king Told Them!": Enraged Butler Cop On Bodycam Says He Told Secret Service To Cover Warehouse Used By Shooter, And They Agreed

    by Tyler Durden

    Thursday, Aug 08, 2024 - 09:20 PM

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-fking-told-them-enraged-butler-cop-bodycam-says-he-told-secret-service-cover-warehouse

    Bodycam footage from local Pennsylvania police reveal that in the moments after last month's attempted assassination of Donald Trump, an officer says he told the Secret Service to cover the warehouse used by shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks.

    The new bodycamera footage was released by the Butler County Police Department, showing the officer who confronted the shooter. (Butler County Police Department)

    "I f—ing told them that they needed to post guys f—ing over here…I told them that f—ing Tuesday," said a Butler Township officer in audio captured by his body-worn camera and obtained by the Wall Street Journal.

    "I talked to the Secret Service guys. They’re like, ‘Yeah, no problem. We’re going to post guys over here,'" the officer continues.

     

     

  8. "I F**king Told Them!": Enraged Butler Cop On Bodycam Says He Told Secret Service To Cover Warehouse Used By Shooter, And They Agreed

    by Tyler Durden

    Thursday, Aug 08, 2024 - 09:20 PM

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/i-fking-told-them-enraged-butler-cop-bodycam-says-he-told-secret-service-cover-warehouse

    Bodycam footage from local Pennsylvania police reveal that in the moments after last month's attempted assassination of Donald Trump, an officer says he told the Secret Service to cover the warehouse used by shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks.

    The new bodycamera footage was released by the Butler County Police Department, showing the officer who confronted the shooter. (Butler County Police Department)

    "I f—ing told them that they needed to post guys f—ing over here…I told them that f—ing Tuesday," said a Butler Township officer in audio captured by his body-worn camera and obtained by the Wall Street Journal.

    "I talked to the Secret Service guys. They’re like, ‘Yeah, no problem. We’re going to post guys over here,'" the officer continues.

    The footage paints a more complete picture of the anger and frustration moments after Thomas Matthew Crooks was able to fire eight shots at the former president from an AR-style assault rifle. A spectator was killed, two others were injured, and Trump suffered a bullet wound to the ear. The Journal obtained the videos under a public-records request Thursday.

    A police officer in one of the videos at one point refers to a suspicious individual who had been lost by authorities. The unidentified officer referred to “a gentleman with a flat face that we were looking for earlier. He was creeping people out.”

    The officer's account, which was broadcast over radio channels, was captured by one of the body cameras. "He was watching people out in the woods by the water tower. I’m not sure he is the gentleman down or not," the officer says.

    Around 10 minutes after the shooting, another officer says to a fellow officer "I thought you guys were on the roof. I thought it was you. I thought it was you."

    To which "No" can be heard in response.

    "What the xxxx! Why were we not on the roof? Why weren't we?" the officer replies.

    https://www.wsj.com/us-news/videos-show-police-at-trump-rally-airing-frustration-with-secret-service-47c62e12?mod=e2tw

  9. 41 minutes ago, Keven Hofeling said:

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    Jim Marrs, 'Crossfire' page 482, as follows:


    "...The experience of former Texas senator Ralph Yarborough also sheds light on the manner in which the Commission allowed key witnesses to be handled. The fact that Yarborough was riding beside Lyndon Johnson in the motorcade may explain his treatment in the summer of 1964. He described it this way:

    After I wrote them, you see, a couple of fellows came to see me. They walked in like they were a couple of deputy sheriffs and I was a bank robber. I didn't like their attitude. As a senator I felt insulted. They went off and wrote up something and brought it back for me to sign. But I refused. I threw it in a drawer and let it lay there for weeks. And they had on there the last sentence which stated "This is all I know about the assassination." They wanted me to sign this thing, then say this is all I know. Of course, I would never have signed it. Finally, after some weeks, they began to bug me. "You're holding this up, you're holding this up" they said, demanding that I sign the report. So I typed one up myself and put basically what I told you about how the cars all stopped. I put in there, "I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but for the protection of future presidents, they should be trained to take off when a shot is fired." I sent that over. That's dated July 10, 1964, after the assassination. To my surprise, when the volumes were finally printed and came out, I was surprised at how many people down at the White House didn't file their affidavits until after the date, after mine the 10th of July, waiting to see what I was going to say before they filed theirs. I began to lose confidence then in their investigation and that's further eroded with time...."

     

    Not exactly verbatim, as the source of the interview reveals:

    In fairness to Marrs, Yarborough references "the stop" earlier in the interview, prior to the quoted section.

  10. ABLECHILD: Crime Scene Compromised — Alleged Assassin’s Autopsy Is Being Withheld — WHAT’S GOING ON?

    Aug. 6, 2024 8:00 am

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/ablechild-crime-scene-compromised-alleged-assassins-autopsy-missing/

    On August 2nd many news outlets reported that the autopsy of Thomas Matthew Crooks had been released by the Butler County Coroner’s office. The fact is that mainstream media is late to the party and the Butler County Coroner’s office released the cause and manner of death of Thomas Matthew Crooks to AbleChild nearly two weeks earlier on July 21st.

    Unfortunately, what the mainstream media doesn’t understand is that the cause and manner of death is not an autopsy and, although an autopsy has already been conducted on the alleged body of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the results of that autopsy may never see the light of day.

    That’s right. Along with so many other aspects of this “investigation” the public may never get to know the details of the alleged assassin’s autopsy. And, while the autopsy shuffle is interesting, the questions regarding chain of custody of that body that need to be asked of the Butler County Coroner, William F. Young III, are even more compelling. So, let’s first recap the case of the presently missing autopsy.

    Ablechild contacted the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office to obtain a copy of the autopsy and here’s what we learned. According to news reports, apparently, at some point early Sunday morning July 14th, the alleged shooter’s body was transferred to the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office for autopsy.

    By what transportation did the Butler County coroner use? Nobody knows. The Autopsy was conducted (no one will say when) and the autopsy was completed (no one knows when) and results were sent to the coroner’s office in Butler County (nobody knows the date).

    Here’s where the results of the autopsy being publicly released get muddled. Apparently, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania mandates that Allegheny County must release full autopsy reports to journalists and the public.

    Yeah!!! Not so fast. When requested by AbleChild, the Allegheny County Medical Examiner’s office refused to release the autopsy because… wait for it, “the autopsy was completed and commissioned (paid for) by Butler County and all information relating to the case must go through Butler County.” Huh? Because Butler County paid for the autopsy, Allegheny County cannot make public the autopsy? You can’t make this up.

    Though great efforts were made, AbleChild could not find any change in Pennsylvania law/regulations that exempts release of Allegheny County autopsies because another county paid for it.

    Furthermore, the Butler County Coroner will not release the autopsy to anyone other than the next of kin (who have remained silent except for the father stating “I gotta pee”) and legal representatives, falling back on a single court case: Penn Jersey Advance, Inc. v. Grim, 962 A.2d 632 (Pa. 2009). The “Right-to-Know” laws in Pennsylvania apparently mean nothing.

    Is anyone surprised that the autopsy is apparently a Commonwealth secret? Nothing regarding the physical evidence surrounding this case has been made public. So, the Butler County Coroner (who may or may not have a medical/legal/investigative background and usually is an elected position) has some explaining to do.

    AbleChild left messages for an interview with William F. Young III, the Butler County Coroner, but they have not been returned. Okay, because the coroner will not take our questions, we’ll make them public. Maybe somebody can provide some answers.

    First, according to a July 17, 2024, article in the Butler Eagle newspaper by Eddie Trizzino, “the Butler County Coroner William F. Young III, was unable to attend the campaign rally for former President Trump on Saturday July 13, because of other engagements, but he found himself at the Butler Farm Show grounds after midnight Sunday to examine the victim who was shot at the rally.”

    The article points out that “the coroner and another deputy later returned after 6 a.m. to the American Glass Research (AGR) International building, where he climbed onto its roof to confirm the death of Thomas Matthew Crooks.” Really?!

    The coroner and his deputy “returned after 6 a.m… to the AGR building…where he climbed onto its roof to confirm the death…?” Hmmm. That’s odd, leaving one to wonder about many things.

    First, assuming no one moved the body of the alleged shooter (chain of custody thing), that means the body laid on the AGR building roof from when it was shot six thirtyish p.m. July 13th until twelve hours later at 6 a.m.ish July 14.

    Did the coroner get instructions to come back to the crime scene the next morning? By whom? The FBI and the Secret Service? Why? What was going on at the crime scene that the coroner was denied access to the crime scene and the victim’s body?  Plus, the coroner released the death certificate, testifying that he identified and determined the cause of death on the 13th day of July.  That may not be true because he returned to the crime scene at 6 a.m. on July 14th.

    Further, if the body laid on the AGR building roof all night, who (what law enforcement entity) would be tasked with securing the building? Please don’t say the Secret Service or the FBI. Seriously, this is all about chain of custody. Certainly, the body of the alleged would-be assassin did not remain on the roof all night without some law enforcement security. We need to know who that was.

    Next. Given that the alleged assassin did not have any identification on his person, by what method did the coroner identify the body? Further, the FBI has announced that it identified the alleged weapon used in the shooting by serial number. When the coroner climbed up on the roof at 6 a.m. was the weapon still on the roof, undisturbed, and part of the crime scene?  Did the coroner take photographs of the body on the roof (crime scene)?

    Finally, there are photographs of FBI personnel hosing off the roof of the AGR building. Did the coroner request the FBI to take this action? If so, why would the coroner request the investigative body to remove evidence from a crime scene it was investigating. This seems odd. Was there no other outside entity available to the coroner?

    Naturally, there are many questions about the coroner’s actions regarding the crime scene. But AbleChild is interested in knowing the results of the autopsy to rule out any mental health medications that may have been in the alleged shooter’s system at the time of death. Too often, these killers have been medicated with serious psychiatric mind-altering drugs. While the FBI reports the alleged shooter was not suffering from a mental illness or being medicated, the autopsy/toxicology report would put the matter to bed.

    Clearly there were numerous failures on July 13th.  Must the failure to provide the public with important physical evidence about the alleged shooter be added to those failures?

    The public needs to know whether a projectile was removed from the body of the alleged shooter and did that projectile match the reported sniper’s weapon? Is the wound to the alleged victim’s head indicative of the alleged trajectory of the sniper’s bullet? These are basic questions that may be answered by the autopsy results…or not. Either way, the public has a right to know.

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