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  1. Entirely True! Not too many years back I was discussing with Barbara various events which actually transpired in Vietnam in early 68. In my "mind" for many a year, events of two seperate and different encounters with NVA forces, had been combined into a single encounter/firefight. Barbara, who had received letters from me, stated that I was incorrect and that it was two separate events, to which I protested. She then showed me the letters written on the subject, which, as she had stated, was two distiinct and seperate events. Being the "doubting Thomas", I thereafter dug out my diary which was written at the time of the events, and it too stated that this was too separate events with totally seperate dates. To this day, my "memory" still has these events combined into a single combat event, yet I know beyond any doubt that the memory is incorrect as the letters and diary were written at the time of occurence. Therefore, when one places their faith in "memory" alone, then they are on quite shaky ground. And the older one gets, the worse it also appears to be. Guess one should be thankful that they can remember anything! Jack, Tom, I sympathise with – and share – the proclivity to conflate memories. So let us thank the lucky stars that Mark Lane committed his (television viewing) to paper, just as Tom did in his diary, so contemporaneously: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...rt=#entry148026 The following extract is from the expanded – eight-page pamphlet version – of Mark Lane’s original article on the case, “Lane’s Defense Brief for Oswald,” published by the National Guardian, 19 December 1963: http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/The_critics/L...l_Guardian.html Note the order: Lane first saw the film was on television, then a few stills from it in Life’s first post-assassination issue of November 29. Paul
  2. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JG30Ag01.html Russia takes control of Turkmen (world?) gas By M K Bhadrakumar (Copyright 2008 Asia Times Online (Holdings) Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.) Meanwhile, the US elite wastes billions in futile wars of occupation in Afghanistan and Iraq...
  3. To my surprise, the AP report of a frontal head entrance wound did make it into at least one newspaper on November 22:
  4. Here’s the kind of thing I had in mind: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...28/ai_n16644653 Time fogged my memory of Kennedy film Chris Hicks, Deseret Morning News, Jul 28, 2006 http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,640196299,00.html New anchors can't compare with Cronkite By Chris Hicks, Deseret Morning News Published: July 21, 2006 An interesting exchange on this subject took place in 2007 at the locations listed below. The debate began with a misunderstanding: An ardent defender of the anti-conspiratorial line mistakenly thought a previous contributor was referring to films of the assassination being shown repeatedly on TV in the immediate aftermath & set about correcting the “error.” A third contributor recalled seeing just such a film of the assassination over and over on television at this time. Note how she brings her memory into line with the consensus that it had to be the Muchmore film; and the introduction of a televised interview with a psychologist to ram home the message. By the way, the location of the broadcaster of the assassination film in the days following the coup was…New York. http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal...d=25569#M100735 http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal...&format=one http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal...d=26868#M100707 http://community.comcast.net/comcastportal...d=26872#M100737 Fortunately for the puzzled lady - like Chris Hicks, armed only with her “false” memory - someone in Power had given much thought to the issue, and abundant reassurance was only a google search or two away, reconciling her to the historical “truth” of the matter. Ironically, the lady’s signature proclaims: “Just the issues, not a political party line.”
  5. http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m45927&hd=&size=1&l=e Who Funds the Progressive Media? By Michael Barker July 24, 2008 Michael Barker is a British citizen based in Australia. Most of his other articles can be found here.
  6. Jefferson Morley. Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA (University of Kansas Press, 2008), p.66 We begin to see the skeleton of the standard CIA coup model: The next step is to attempt the allocation of roles, based on the CIA's endeavours overseas, before, during and post-Dallas.
  7. New anchors can't compare with Cronkite By Chris Hicks, Deseret Morning News Published: July 21, 2006 I emailed Chris Hicks and asked him where in the US he lived in November 1963. LA, came the reply. No connection, surely, then, with Mark Lane's experience of viewing the first version of the Z film in New York? One possibility. In June 1963, Times Mirror sold its LA television station, KTTV, to the Metromedia group: The latter also owned WNEW-TV in New York. A suitably sized sample of recollections of the kind offered by Chris Hicks would, of course, form the basis for establishing whether or not memories of seeing the Z film in 1963 come in geographical clusters; and, if they did, mapping the clusters against, for example, Metromedia-owned stations across the country. Paul
  8. Here’s the kind of thing I had in mind: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...28/ai_n16644653 Time fogged my memory of Kennedy film Chris Hicks, Deseret Morning News, Jul 28, 2006 http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,640196299,00.html New anchors can't compare with Cronkite By Chris Hicks, Deseret Morning News Published: July 21, 2006
  9. Obama: The real power behind the throne-to-be by Eric Walberg Global Research, July 23, 2008 Al Ahram Weekly There are NO silver linings to the return of this vile schemer - only mounds more corpses.
  10. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...-shot-dead.html Key Benazir Bhutto assassination witness shot dead The bodyguard of Benazir Bhutto, who was to be a key witness in an investigation into her assassination, has been shot dead. Last Updated: 3:19PM BST 23 Jul 2008 Who is - was - Mr Shahenshah? Three links filling in some of the background. The third contains some interesting footage of Shahenshah at Bhutto's last rally: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/EG16Df04.html http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...3-7-2008_pg12_2 http://www.yousufnazar.com/?p=594 Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008 at 5:27 pm Khalid Shahenshah’s murder deepens the mystery around BB’s assassination The murder of Khalid Shahenshah, a key witness in Benazir Bhutto’s murder case, has been blamed rather quickly on the ‘terrorists’ by Sind Home Minister. But Khalid had a highly controversial background which included a record of criminal cases, working as an activist of People’s Students Federation in the 1980s, an alleged member of Dawood Ibrahim’s gang later, and most recently as one of the body guards of Benazir Bhutto. He was sitting in the back seat of Benazir’s car when she was hit by bullets and bomb blasts and was a key witness in her murder case. He was also interviewed by the Scotland yard. His most controversial part was his antics on the stage where BB addressed her last public meeting. See the following video: Follow link above - PR After BB’s murder, the above video was run by many channels including DAWN News and Rehman Malik denied Khalid Shahenshah’s or his responsibility in BB’s secuirty lapses. (See Daily Times of Jan. 06, 2008) According to the Post of January 4, 2008: Khalid’s name figured in Asia Times reports of July 16, 2003 and October 22, 2003 as a gang member linked to the famous underworld don Dawood Ibrahim. The News in its June 18, 2006 issue published a report speculating Dawood may have moved to Waziristan. The Newsline in its September 2001 issue had reported:
  11. Mind you, all alibis for the press exhausted, it's still surprising we didn't hear a bit more about Zelikow's record of handling evidence when his 9/11 appointment was announced: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/05/stern.htm Atlantic Monthly, May 2000 Books: What JFK Really Said By Sheldon M. Stern Nat appears to have won the point.
  12. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...-shot-dead.html Key Benazir Bhutto assassination witness shot dead The bodyguard of Benazir Bhutto, who was to be a key witness in an investigation into her assassination, has been shot dead. Last Updated: 3:19PM BST 23 Jul 2008
  13. Thanks, Bill, that was very helpful. What I'm particularly keen to find is examples from 1975 of interviews with, and comments from, those who believed they'd seen the film well before: I dimly recall reading (or was it hearing?) such material years ago, but I'm damned if I can remember the source(s). It would be very instructive, of course, if those disparaging such recollections turned out to be connected with the false memory syndrome movement and its, er, financiers! Paul
  14. I have not been able to get a copy of this book. Any chance of a summary? William A. Reuben. The Atom Spy Hoax (NY: Action Books, December 1954; this edition, May 1955), 504pp. Contents: Book I: The Secret Chapter I: Hiroshima: There Is No Atom Secret 1 Chapter II: Canada: The Atom Spy Plot That Never Was 16 Chapter III: Canada: The Atom Spy Plot That Never Was (Continued) 37 Chapter IV: Canada: The Atom Spy Plot That Never Was (Continued) 84 Book II: The Blueprint Chapter V: Lt. Redin: An A-Spy Is Still Born 113 Chapter VI: What Helps Business Helps You 119 Chapter VII: Dr. Condon: If At First You Don’t Succeed 129 Chapter VIII: A-Spies and the 1948 Elections:…Try Again 137 Chapter IX: Within Weeks An Explosion Occurred 148 Chapter X: Bentley, Budenz and Chambers, Unlimited 158 Book III: Reaction Chapter XI: Peace Is a Four-Letter Word 203 Chapter XII: Klaus Fuchs 210 Chapter XIII: Harry Gold: “I Lied Desperately” 246 Book IV: Chain Reaction Chapter XIV: Summer, 1950: Ninety Days That Changed The World 289 Chapter XV: Alfred Dean Slack: An “Atom Spy” Who Recanted 299 Chapter XVI: David Greenglass: The FBI Loosened His Memory 327 Chapter XVII: Julius Rosenberg: A Jello Box-Top Was The Clue 370 Chapter XVIII: Brothman-Moskowitz: Public Library Espionage 406 Chapter XIX: Ethel Rosenberg: Even the Charges Were Secret 422 Chapter XX: Ruth Greenglass: Not What She Bargained For 439 Chapter XXI: Morton Sobell: Case History of a Hoax 457 In Malcolm P. Sharp’s Was Justice Done? The Rosenberg-Sobell Case (NY: Monthly Review Press, 1956), Appendix 4 (pp.205-216), reprints Sharp’s review, New Light on the Rosenberg Case (Monthly Review, December 1955), of Reuben’s Atom Spy Hoax and John Wexley’s The Judgment of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg (NY: Cameron & Kahn, 1955). Extracts follow: http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=W...st=sr&ac=qr Reuben’s pamphlet, To Secure Justice in the Rosenberg Case, based on his August 1951 National Guardian series, led to the formation of the National Committee to Secure Justice in the Rosenberg. It can be read online here: http://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/AmRad/secur...cerosenberg.pdf Guide to the William A. Reuben papers, 1923-2003 http://dlib.nyu.edu/findingaids/html/tamwag/reuben.html Tamiment Library/Robert F. Wagner Labor Archives Elmer Holmes Bobst Library 70 Washington Square South New York, NY 10012 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...agewanted=print http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m113...ag=artBody;col1
  15. For some essential context and much-merited scepticism, see William A. Reuben's The Atom Spy Hoax (NY: Action Books, 1954).
  16. Can’t wait, Bill. In the meantime, let’s enjoy this extract from the expanded – eight-page pamphlet version – of Mark Lane’s original article on the case, “Lane’s Defense Brief for Oswald,” published by the National Guardian, 19 December 1963: http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/The_critics/L...l_Guardian.html Anyone reading this remember seeing the following interview? Or any others in a similar vein, presumably circa 1975? If so, recall any details?
  17. Well, they've nearly completed their counter-revolution: The triumph of an unaccountable elite http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9621 ”Measure of America” report documents social decay of the United States US ranks 42nd in life expectancy By Patrick Martin Global Research, July 20, 2008 wsws.org
  18. Operation Gladio: CIA Network of "Stay Behind" Secret Armies The "Sacrifice" of Aldo Moro by Andrew G. Marshall Global Research, July 17, 2008 Geopoliticalmonitor.com Notes [1] Bruce W. Nelan, Europe Nato's Secret Armies. Time Magazine: November 26, 1990: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,971772,00.html 2] PHP, Secret Warfare: Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies. ISN: http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en...l%3Den%26sa%3DG [3] Ed Vulliamy, Secret agents, freemasons, fascists... and a top-level campaign of political 'destabilisation'. The Guardian: December 5, 1990: http://www.cambridgeclarion.org/press_cutt...n_5dec1990.html 4] Arthur E. Rowse, GLADIO: THE SECRET U.S. WAR TO SUBVERT ITALIAN DEMOCRACY. Covert Action Quarterly: December 1994 [5] PHP, Secret Warfare: Operation Gladio and NATO's Stay-Behind Armies. ISN: http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en...l%3Den%26sa%3DG [6] Philip Willan, US 'supported anti-left terror in Italy'. The Guardian: June 24, 2000: http://www.cambridgeclarion.org/press_cutt..._24jun2000.html [7] CBC, CIA knew, but didn't stop bombings in Italy – report. CBC News: August 5, 2000: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2000/08/05/cia000805.html [8] Peter Dale Scott, The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America. University of California Press, 2007: page 181 [9] Philip Willan, Terrorists 'helped by CIA' to stop rise of left in Italy. The Guardian: March 26, 2001: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/mar/26/terrorism [10] Philip Willan, US 'supported anti-left terror in Italy'. The Guardian: June 24, 2000: http://www.cambridgeclarion.org/press_cutt..._24jun2000.html [11] Philip Willan, Infiltrators blamed for murder of Italian PM. The Guardian: April 10, 1999: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/...3852325,00.html [12 – 13] Arthur E. Rowse, GLADIO: THE SECRET U.S. WAR TO SUBVERT ITALIAN DEMOCRACY. Covert Action Quarterly: December 1994 [14] Malcolm Moore, US envoy admits role in Aldo Moro killing. The Telegraph: March 16, 2008: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ro-killing.html [15] Saviona Mane, A murder still fresh. Haaretz: May 9, 2008: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/981929.html [16] Ed Vulliamy, Secret agents, freemasons, fascists... and a top-level campaign of political 'destabilisation'. The Guardian: December 5, 1990: http://www.cambridgeclarion.org/press_cutt...n_5dec1990.html [17] Philip Willan, Moro's ghost haunts political life. The Guardian: May 9, 2003: http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,4665179-105806,00.html [18] Philip Willan, Infiltrators blamed for murder of Italian PM. The Guardian: April 10, 1999: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/...3852325,00.html [19] Philip Willan, Moro's ghost haunts political life. The Guardian: May 9, 2003: http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,4665179-105806,00.html [20] BBC News, Giulio Andreotti: Mr Italy. BBC: October 23, 1999: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/483295.stm [21] AP, Four Get Life in Prison In Bombing in Bologna. The New York Times: July 12, 1988: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...754C0A96E948260 http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9556
  19. Obama - the new face of American totalitarianism: Obama outlines policy of endless war by Bill Van Auken Bill Van Auken is a frequent contributor to Global Research. http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9616
  20. Paul, sorry. I did not see this before. It prompted me to check exactly what he did say to the FBI (and LAPD). Firstly, here is the relevant part of the transcript from the GOODMAN INTERVIEW: JOHN PILGER: [.....] And we had been told to follow the candidate through the kitchen, because they were going out the back way. And as we waited for Kennedy to appear on stage in the ballroom at the Ambassador, one of the Kennedy workers came up to us and said, “There’s a funny-looking guy in the kitchen. He’s giving me the creeps.” Well, that was Sirhan Sirhan. And I have to say that none of us journalists where we were went off and inquired who this funny-looking guy was. Kennedy arrived, stood on the stage, made a very short speech, which ended famously with now “on to Chicago,” where the Democratic nomination would have happened, the convention there. And then, he and Ethel, his wife, and his two protectors—Bill Barry, former FBI agent, and Rosey Grier, NFL player—followed by a half a dozen journalists, including myself, started to walk towards the kitchen. Kennedy entered the kitchen. Sirhan leapt up on a serving area, pointed a gun at him and fired. He was wrestled. Kennedy fell. He was wrestled to the ground, and then there were other shots. There’s no question that there was another gunman, because one of the people who was hit, just grazed, was standing next to me, and that happened when Sirhan Sirhan had been wrestled to the ground. So that’s the interesting thing. There was another assassin or another several assassins. And then it was bedlam. And as you know, Kennedy died about twenty-four hours later. AMY GOODMAN: John Pilger, what about Robert Kennedy’s views of Vietnam? Also, of course, your view is not the standard one, that there were other assassins. JOHN PILGER: I’m sorry. I didn’t quite hear the second part. His views of Vietnam and…? AMY GOODMAN: Your view is not the standard one, that there were other assassins there. But— JOHN PILGER: Well, I told—the FBI interviewed quite a few of us, and I told the FBI at length just what had happened, the numbers of shots that were fired that I heard—I thought I heard. And I’m pretty sure I did hear them, which Sirhan Sirhan— AMY GOODMAN: How many? JOHN PILGER: —couldn’t have fired. There were two people seen running from the Ambassador Hotel, including one famous woman in a polka dot dress. A number of us thought we saw those. We can’t be absolutely sure about that. There is a new documentary out, which I haven’t seen, which I understand goes into this in depth. But— FBI REPORT: "...did not witness the shooting or the immediate aftermath. He had no recollection of seeing Sirhan Sirhan at any time..." http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...sPageId=1081867 LAPD REPORT "...when the Sen. left the stage and was proceeding towards the kitchen area Mr Pilger proceeded towards the main door of the Embassy Ballroom. He had gotten to a point approx 30 to 40 feet from the stage when he heard women crying etc. Several minutes later heard that the Sen. had been shot. He was unable to get into the kitchen area because of the large crowd that had gathered at that point. He stated that he did NOT [emphasis in original] here any of the shots that were fired and that he could not recall any girl in particular that had been wearing a polka dot dress." Mr Pilger has seen the photos of Sirhan and has no recollection of seeing anyone resembling him at any time prior to the shooting." Let's not get ahead of this, though. As Larry Hancock shows in his recent series of essays, the LAPD manufactured interviews and selectively quoted in reports. The LAPD interview was taped. Would this tape still exist? Other reporters at the Ambassador that night told the authorities that the rushed off to file stories. One has to assume Pilger did exactly the same. If he did, that story needs to be run down. If it is closer to the Goodman interview version than the FBI/LAPD version, we have proof of further malfeasance by the investigators. If on the other hand, it confirms what the LAPD/FBI reports state, Pilger needs to be confronted and publicly exposed. Truth shall set us free: There is a huge public hunger for incisive political documentaries. If only the media had the courage to show them By John Pilger The Guardian, Film, Friday, 15 September 2006, p.5 The John Pilger film festival runs at the Barbican, London, to Thursday. Today, Pilger's Vietnam films are shown, including The Quiet Mutiny. Details: www.barbican.org.uk/film or 0845 120 7500. John Pilger - Documentaries That Changed the World is released by Network DVD guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008 http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/st...1872153,00.html Highlight of the festival was Pilger’s documentary on the presence of a second gunman in the pantry of the Ambassador on June 5, 1968.
  21. While lots of sad, deluded souls like you and me imagine a regal reign on Pluto – really, Charlie – grounded folk like Grauniad columnist Simon Hoggart go to important conferences and meet an ex- CIA chief. And come away gushing… http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2006/ap...comment.uknews2 High-class rolling stones in Boulder By Simon Hoggart The Guardian, Saturday, 15 April 2006, p.17 ...like a twelve year-old. Ed Reardon
  22. Yes, Charlie, we know you have: It's called the Warren Report. I offer this by way of further dispelling the unfounded rumour that there is a “party line” at the Grauniad. No, the very thought is unthinkable. http://film.guardian.co.uk/patterson/story...2281580,00.html On film: Don't beat around the Bush The political Oliver Stone has been on hiatus for a while. It'll be interesting - and infuriating - to have him back, with his Bush biopic By John Patterson The Guardian, Film & Music, Friday, 23 May, 2008, p.2 guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008 The Guardian: The best “liberal” daily CIA money could buy.
  23. Good question - why do you persist with that "Zapruder film is genuine" nonsense? Have a stern word with yourself. An English well-wisher.
  24. John Dugdale’s review of David Talbot’s Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years (Pocket£9.99), The Guardian, Saturday Review, 14 June 2008, p.20: After the enormous amount of space devoted to reviewing Talbot’s Brothers, it was quite a relief to find the Grauniad returning to form this morning with this lengthy attack on anyone who doubts the wit and wisdom of Earl Warren and Zelikow. Nice to see the paper’s obsession with attacking heretics has abated: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...september11.usa So, you believe in conspiracy theories, do you? You probably also think you're the Emperor of Pluto By Charlie Booker, The Guardian, G2, Monday July 14, 2008, p.5 Contact us to report errors or inaccuracies: reader@guardian.co.uk Letters for publication should be sent to: letters@guardian.co.uk If you need help using the site: userhelp@guardian.co.uk Call the main Guardian and Observer switchboard: +44 (0)20 7278 2332 The Guardian: The best "liberal" paper CIA money could buy
  25. How Strong Is the Junta? By M.S.Arnoni The Minority of One, September 1964, [(Vol 7, No 9), 58)], pp.1, 11-15 To follow, the first page and a third of one of the very best pieces written in the year following the coup: How indeed?
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