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A Few Thoughts on the Zapruder Film
Paul Rigby replied to Josiah Thompson's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
http://www.jfk-info.com/wfaa-tv.htm Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII Another ringing endorsement from Zapruder of his film’s authenticity Zapruder, the prosecution’s twenty-third witness at the Shaw trial, was reported as follows after his appearance: -
The Zapruder Film Provenance
Paul Rigby replied to William Kelly's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Out of curiosity, Bill, who was actually running the NPIC in late November 1963? If veteran CIA-mouthpiece Stewart Alsop is to be believed, the answer, formally at least, was McNamara and the DIA. Or was that control nominal and contested; and lapsed entirely with the Dallas coup, with power reverting to CIA? -
David Lifton -- Final Charade
Paul Rigby replied to Michael Hogan's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
1. Wolper produced 32 episodes of the 1954 series OSS: it is inconceivable that the CIA did not take a keen interest in the shaping of the series, not least because of the presence of so many ex-OSS in its own ranks, among them, the most senior. 2. The Wolper documentary Four Days in November, released in October 1964, was made in conjunction with UPI, and debuted just as UPI completed its takeover of Wolper's production company and its (five?) subsidiaries. 3. Four Days is perhaps most remarkable for what it omits - any footage of the presidential limousine turning the corner from Houston on Elm: 4. The absence of any footage of said turn is more than a little curious because according to a UPI despatch from New York in the early hours of Tuesday, November 26, 1963, it had footage of precisely that turn: My conclusion from the above? Rather to my surprise, I find Pamela's recollection entirely credible, for this additional reason: The version of the Zapruder fake which, unannounced, followed Wolper's cynical piece of pro-WC hackwork was almost certainly the second version, the one which had removed the left turn from Houston on to Elm. What I suspect she was subjected to was a small scale experiment in perception management, as part of the preparation for introducing the new, improved version of the Zapruder fake. Paul -
Why transcript 1327C is a fraud
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
(1) Transcript 1327C, page B-5, as found in Appendix C, James H. Fetzer (ed.). Assassination Science: Experts Speak Out on the Death of JFK (Chicago: Catfeet Press, 1998), p.423. (2) John Herbers, “Kennedy Struck by Two Bullets, Doctor Who Attended Him Says/Physician Reports One Shot Remained in President’s Body After Hitting Him at Level of His Necktie Knot,” NYT, November 27, 1963, p.20. -
SIX SECONDS IN DALLAS: Truth or Obfuscation?
Paul Rigby replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
UPI had the Z film, and it was shown on US TV, most notably on New York's WNEW-TV in the early hours of November 26: Same despatch: 1. “Exclusive Films Show Shooting of Kennedy in Dallas,” Logansport Pharos-Tribune, (Logansport, Indiana), Tuesday, November 26, 1963, Page 2 2. “UPI Newsfilm First On Air With Exclusive,” Great Bend Daily Tribune, (Great Bend, Kansas), Tuesday, November 26, 1963, Page 9 3. “UPI Newsfilm Has Shooting On Film,” Humboldt Standard, (Eureka, California), Tuesday, November 26, 1963, p.2 Elsewhere in the US: Mark Lane? http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/The_critics/L...l_Guardian.html Paul -
SIX SECONDS IN DALLAS: Truth or Obfuscation?
Paul Rigby replied to a topic in JFK Assassination Debate
It wasn't, at least not initially, even in the hands of Time-Life: UPI, Helms' pre-war outfit, had it. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...amp;hl=Muchmore Paul -
Why transcript 1327C is a fraud
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
The obvious question hitherto unbegged: Given that no film, sound recording or example of contemporaneous note-taking has yet surfaced, how was transcript 1327C compiled? And why was the basis for it - the recordings or notes - not produced upon its emergence? It was not, after all, as if the absence of record(ing)s was uncontroversial, from the mid-1960s on. Until and unless the advocates of its "authenticity" adduce the basis for its production, we have no alternative but to conclude that it is a CIA forgery. A very shrewd one, it must be acknowledged, which combines elements of the truth - the throat wound was of entry - with a sustained pretence that there was no front entry wound of the face/head. Paul -
Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Fair enough. That strikes me as an honourable and prudent position to take. I am not, and never have been, opposed to the raising of legitimate objections/questions, what I have resisted - and will continue to - is the attempt to place the paradigm beyond the realm of legitimate discussion. Now, having long advanced the proposition that Kennedy was killed by a member of his own bodyguard, it seems to me I have an obligation to set how I think the killing went down. Let me say at the outset I have no beef with the idea that the CIA plan included provision for shooters from distance - but just not for the actual hit, assuming things went broadly to plan. I can see two very good grounds for their utilisation: 1) emergency cover for unforseen intrusion or failure; and 2) for the purposes of misdirection. I believe the later is the key to the entire scheme: misdirection. So here is my paradigm, as assembled from the most germane testimony I have found to date. It is predicated upon the provision from the outset of a fabricated film: The Secret Service and the false trail up the grassy knoll Ingenia nostra rerum contrariarum vicinitate fallantur (Our minds are confused by the close proximity of opposites) Petrach Summary: Secret Service men leave follow-up car: a) run to presidential limousine; lay false trail up to knoll, c) Kellerman's part in the misdirection; d) SS place responsibility for run up grassy knoll on Dallas police; and e) are blown out by the CIA in satirical, if hubristic, mode. A) The SS checks the target is mortally wounded: The false trail to the knoll: C) Kellerman’s role in the misdirection: D) The Secret Service covers its tracks * The assassination took place, of course, further up Elm Street, nearer the Triple Overpass, than the second version of the Z-fake would have us believe. E) Overview of the rehearsed role of the SS -
Why transcript 1327C is a fraud
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Who intervened contemporaneously to skew knowledge about the wounds? Secret Service at Parkland: Secret Service/KRLD collaboration at Parkland: Prior Secret Service/KRLD collaboration: Alleged FBI intervention into coverage of Parkland doctors’ recollections: -
Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.p...85445&page= A third observer, and one with a particularly well-deserved reputation for honest and temperate comment, confirms that Horne does indeed give Greer's involvement serious consideration. Quite right, too. -
Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Dulles to Humes: (Humes’ response was no less remarkable: “Scientifically, sir, it is impossible for it to have been fired from other than behind. Or to have exited from other than behind"!) -
Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Dan, If the Clint Hill anecdote is indeed in one of Doug Horne's volumes, and I take it that it is given Bill Kelly's non-denial denial, then it directly addresses your claim that no "son of a b*st*rd somewhere quickly noting such an extraordinary detour in proper procedure..." Bill's reluctance to acknowledge the fact tells us something about him, a great deal about the power of group-think in the research community, and nothing whatever about the merits (or otherwise) of the case for an in-car shooting. Second, you trot out that hoary old line about the execution taking place "in the middle of a downtown parade." What a pity it isn't true: It took place at the sparsely populated fag-end of the drive through Dallas. This irony was noted in contemporaneous press reports. You should really catch up. Third, I'm very struck at the eruption of foul language. Why this level of emotion? Is this really the disinterested response of an independent researcher? I note with interest that this is not the first time we've seen a similar recourse to this kind of language in response to the proposition. Fourth, as a matter of readily verifiable record, Allen Dulles didn't like any suggestion that Kennedy was shot from in front or beside. And, as you've just so eloquently demonstrated, neither do you. Fifth, feel free to let rip without fear of the mods intruding: I've never reported anyone for anything. To the contrary, the more ill-tempered and irrational the response, the better. Paul -
Richard Trask, National Nightmare on six feet of film: Mr Zapruder’s home movie and murder of President Kennedy (Danvers, Mass.: Yeoman Press, 2005), pp.138-142. Dan Rather's second description of the first version of the Zapruder film on CBS, this time for television news, from November 25: Source: Richard B. Trask. National Nightmare on six feet of film: Mr. Zapruder’s home movie and the murder of President Kennedy (Danvers, Mass.: Yeoman Press, 2005), pp. 142-14, citing “CBS Radio Description of Zapruder Film by Dan Rather,” from a transcript from the Richard Sprague Papers, Special Collections Division, Georgetown University Library, Washington, D.C., p.[1-3]
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Richard Trask. Pictures of the Pain: Photography and the assassination of President Kennedy (Danvers, Ma: Yeoman Press, 1994), pp.86-87. Dan Rather’s first detailed public description of the Z-film, 1963, versus Bob Huffaker’s, 2004: Dan Rather, CBS radio, 25 November 1963, as interviewed by Hughes Rudd and Richard C. Hotelett: Richard Trask, National Nightmare on six feet of film: Mr Zapruder’s home movie and murder of President Kennedy (Danvers, Mass.: Yeoman Press, 2005), pp.138-142. Bob Huffaker of KRLD on, er, the same film: When the News Went Live: Dallas 1963 (Lanham, Maryland: Taylor Trade Publishing, 2004), pp.67-8
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Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
One sees immediately why Horne is so very, very "misguided": You join very distinguished company in your concern, Dan, men like...Allen Welch Dulles, for example. -
Truman’s attack on the CIA in the Washington Post of 22 December 1963 was sure to prove a source of profound irritation to a murderous bureaucracy that believed itself above both criticism and the law. Dulles was still scratching vigorously four months later, even as he engrossed himself in the finer points of intimidating a Dallas doctor. Here’s the sequence in order: A week after the publication of Truman’s attack, the Washington Post rubbed editorial salt into the wound: “Truman and the CIA,” 28 December 1963, p.A8: Francis J. Gavin, “Politics, Power, and U.S. Policy in Iran, 1950-1953,” Journal of Cold War Studies, Winter 1999, (Vol. 1, No 1), pp.88-89: *Dulles had evidently developed a taste for this sort of thing during the period in question: http://www.jfk-assassination.com/warren/wch/vol3/page377.php Monday, 30 March 1964: More on Truman’s attack on the CIA post-Dallas; and Dulles’ attempt to neutralise the former President’s criticisms http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/122909b.html
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Um. Thompson on McClelland in SSID. A tad inadequate, that explanation, perhaps? Let's revisit a classic piece of Thompsonian "honesty": Or, How to make an exit wound into an entrance wound… Was McClelland doing any such thing? Not according to the Admission Note made out by McClelland on the afternoon of the coup, which is to be found within the Warren Report itself (2): As Thompson knew full well, when asked by Arlen Specter whether he stood by this verdict – the heroic lawyer, it should be noted, could not bring himself to specify out loud what that verdict was – McClelland replied in the affirmative” (4). 1. Six Seconds in Dallas (Bernard Geis Associates, 1967), p.107, citing 6WCH33. 2. Warren Report, Appendix VIII, Medical Reports from Doctors at Parkland Memorial Hospital, Dallas, Tex., p.527. 3. In Commission Exhibit 392, the two-page submission from McClelland, timed at 4:45pm on 22 November 1963, referred to in 2) is again reproduced in17WCH12. 4. 6WCH35.
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Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I don't yet have any of the volumes, but I take the following descriptions as accurate summaries. http://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php?to...icseen#msg31146 Re: Doug Horne's book(s) now for sale on Amazon « Reply #25 on: December 22, 2009, 07:03 AM » « Reply #26 on: December 22, 2009, 07:24 PM » My congratulations to Doug for having the courage to follow the evidence, however much it offends partisans of the two great CIA-imposed orthodoxies in the case, the TSBD and the grassy knoll. -
Shots from inside the presidential limo
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
At some point, one or more of Doug Horne's exegetes on this forum is, I'm sure, going to offer a word or two, if only for honesty's sake, on the seriousness with which he treats the proposition that William Greer shot his President. And perhaps reproduce details of the anecdote concerning Clint Hill and the flight back to Washington? -
Why transcript 1327C is a fraud
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
"In 1963 we still relied upon vacuum tubes as well as the newly developled transistor, and our sound cameras used film with an optical sound track alongside the reel of framed pictures. Hold the developed film to the light, and you would see the squiggly white line that reproduced sound as it passed throught the projector," Bob Huffaker, When the News Went Live (2004), pp.184-5. -
Fascinating piece by McGovern, with much to assent to. The fact is, however, that it's not true that there was no reaction to Truman's op ed within the mainstream US press. Here's the proof: And here's the editorial which preceded Starnes' endorsement of Truman: One of the problems afflicting US historians and commentators on the period lies in the curious belief that only the New York Times counts; and that if something wasn't covered by the Old Grey Lady, it didn't get covered at all. The absurdity of such an approach should be obvious to all, not least given the historically close ties between the paper and the CIA. Paul
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Paul Mandel and the Zapruder Film
Paul Rigby replied to John Simkin's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Bill, First things first - thank you for all the extracts etc. you've taken the time and trouble to reproduce from Doug Horne's enormous tome. For those of us without access to the various volumes, it's been a great help. Do keep them coming. Credit duly paid, the fact is that Horne is quite simply wrong when he isolates Mandel's rank disinfo in the Life edition in question. As demonstrated above, Mandel was simply one contributor in a much bigger campaign which sought to reconcile a front entry in the throat with the Z fraud. This doesn't invalidate everything else he has to say, nor does it mean he is a purveyor of fibs, or anything of the sort. But the point is worth making, not least because it bears directly on the scale of the plot, and much else besides. Paul -
Features in Zapruder public version 1 (Zpv1) absent from or different to Zapruder public version 2 (Zpv2): 1) Presidential limousine turning left from Houston onto Elm 2) No street sign interposed between camera and President at moment of impact of first bullet 3) Shooting took place further up Elm St towards Overpass, either opposite (or “abreast” of) Zapruder, or beginning at the steps leading up to the grassy knoll 4) Connolly’s white shirt visibly covered in blood following impact of shot 5) JFK’s head went forward in response to impact of head shot Elements of Zpv1 (1) to (5) described in following: 1) Presidential limousine filmed turning left from Houston onto Elm: • Abraham Zapruder on WFAA-TV, at 2:10pm CST, November 22, 1963: transcript: http://www.jfk-info.com/wfaa-tv.htm • Dan Rather, CBS radio & TV, 251163: http://www.i-accuse.com/Rudd_Hotelet.html • UPI (New York), “Film Showing Assassination Is Released,” The Valley Independent, (Monessen, Pennsylvania), Tuesday, November 26, 1963, Page 5 (description of film shown on WNEW-TV, NY, at 00:46hrs, November 26, 1963) • Arthur J. Snider (Chicago Daily News Service), “Movies Reconstruct Tragedy,” Fort Worth Star-Telegram, (Evening edition), November 27, 1963, section 2, p.1 • Warren Report (U.S. Government Printing Office (1964), p.98 • Roy Kellerman, 090364 (2WCH91): http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/kellerma.htm • Mark Lane. Rush to Judgment: A Critique of the Warren Commission’s Inquiry into the Murders of President John F. Kennedy, Officer J. D. Tippit and Lee Harvey Oswald (London: The Bodley Head Ltd., 1966), p.66, footnote 2 2) No street sign interposed between camera and President at moment of impact of first bullet: • Dallas Morning News, “Photographer Sells Pictures of Assassination for $25,000,” November 24, 1963 • Dan Rather, CBS radio & TV, 251163 (Richard Trask. Pictures of the Pain, p.87): http://www.i-accuse.com/Rudd_Hotelet.html • Associated Press (Dallas), "Movie Film Depicts Shooting of Kennedy,” Milwaukee Journal, November 26, 1963, part 1, p.3 • UPI (New York), “Film Showing Assassination Is Released,” The Valley Independent, (Monessen, Pennsylvania), Tuesday, November 26, 1963, Page 5 (description of film shown on WNEW-TV, NY, at 00:46hrs, November 26, 1963) • UPI (Dallas), “Movie Film Shows Murder of President,” Philadelphia Daily News, Tuesday, 26 November 1963, p.3 (4 star edition) • Express Staff Reporter (New York, Monday), “The Man Who Got the Historic Pictures,” Daily Express, Tuesday, 26 November 1963, p.10 • John Herbers, “Kennedy Struck by Two Bullets, Doctor Who Attended Him Says,” New York Times, November 27, 1963, p.20 • Arthur J. Snider (Chicago Daily News Service), “Movies Reconstruct Tragedy,” Fort Worth Star-Telegram, (Evening edition), November 27, 1963, section 2, p.1 • “The Man Who Killed Kennedy,” Time, December 6, 1963, p.29 • Abraham Zapruder (7WCH571): http://www.jfk-info.com/wc-zapr.htm • William Manchester, Look magazine, 040467; Death of a President (London: Pan, paperback, 1968), p.234 3) Shooting took place further up Elm St towards Overpass, either opposite (or “abreast” of) Zapruder, or beginning at the steps leading up to the grassy knoll: • Associated Press (Dallas), "Movie Film Depicts Shooting of Kennedy,” Milwaukee Journal, November 26, 1963, part 1, p.3 • John Herbers, “Kennedy Struck by Two Bullets, Doctor Who Attended Him Says,” New York Times, November 27, 1963, p.20 • Abraham Zapruder, 7WCH571: http://www.jfk-info.com/wc-zapr.htm • Harold Feldman, “Fifty-one witnesses: The Grassy Knoll,” The Minority of One, March 1965, p.17 • John Herbers, “Kennedy Struck by Two Bullets, Doctor Who Attended Him Says,” New York Times, November 27, 1963, p.20 4) Connolly’s white shirt visibly covered in blood following impact of shot: • Dan Rather, CBS, Radio & TV, 251163: http://www.etcfilmunit.com/iaccuse.html 5) JFK’s head went forward in response to impact of head shot: • Dan Rather, CBS, Radio & TV, 251163 (Richard Trask, Pictures of the Pain (Danvers, Mass.: Yeoman Press, 1994, p.87): http://www.etcfilmunit.com/iaccuse.html • Associated Press (Dallas), "Movie Film Depicts Shooting of Kennedy,” Milwaukee Journal, November 26, 1963, part 1, p.3 • UPI (Dallas), “Movie Film Shows Murder of President,” Philadelphia Daily News, Tuesday, 26 November 1963, p.3 (4 star edition) • John Herbers, “Kennedy Struck by Two Bullets, Doctor Who Attended Him Says,” New York Times, November 27, 1963, p.20 • Cartha DeLoach, Hoover’s FBI: The Inside Story by Hoover’s Trusted Lieutenant (1995), p.139: http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/the_critics/gri...Alteration.html Most of the newspaper articles cited above can be found in the thread Eleven early print descriptions of the Zapruder film: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8953
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Why transcript 1327C is a fraud
Paul Rigby replied to Paul Rigby's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
So if Barker's live broadcast from the trade mart ended at 1.30, and if the Perry/Clark conference began at 2.13 at Parkland, KRLD had less than 45 minutes to pack up cameras, etc., truck everything to Parkland, find out where the press conference would be, and get everything set up again. According to Google Maps, the actual driving time is only 5 minutes, but I can easily imagine that it took an hour or more to do all that. Oh dear, Jay: Big Mack dependency - it's fatal. The greater the reliance, the flabbier the conclusion. Alas for this compelling tale, there was at least one KRLD cameraman at Parkland work between 1.30 and, let's be generous, 2.00 p.m. - his name was George Phenix. He filmed the departure of the First Lady and the coffin using a Bell and Howell 16 mm camera reportedly much favoured by TV news crews of the period. Now, according to the Dallas Establisment-CIA version of his work that mournful afternoon, Phenix no sooner concludes filming that departure than he runs into a colleague, Dan Garza, and the two of them hasten away to Love Field, there to take lots of compelling shots of planes from long distance. (By his own admission, the SS wouldn't let him anywhere near LBJ et al.) So much for the official DE/CIA version. The problem with this version is that said colleague Garza a) didn't know Phenix was at Parkland, but had nevertheless brought fresh 16 mm film to Parkland for two other colleagues, one of whom, Warren Fulks, had, according to the other, Bob Huffaker, grabbed a camera when the pair made the dash from KRLD studios to Parkland. And which one of the two attended the Kilduff press conference? Yes, you got it, Warren Fulks. On second thoughts, Mack resembles nothing so much as a WWI general, sending his ill-equipped legions over the top to be mown down like leaves in a gale.