Otto B Cornejo
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I have been reading this forum for about three years, almost daily. I lurk because I don't have much to offer and I don't think I will ever immerse myself to the degree that is needed to become a regular participant.
But I can say that on more than one occasion a thread of conversation has led me off on a tangent picking up a book or two to learn a little more about our history, especially as it relates to the Kennedy years. In fact if I subtract the assassination completely, I am still left with a wide variety of books that came to my doorstep because of something I cross referenced here.
It's a shame that the intensity of infighting and name calling gets out of hand now and again. I guess a certain degree is to be expected considering the subject matter and the passion with which both sides approach that subject. As a READER ONLY, I have managed to work around the pissing contests and absorb what seems relevant to the subject.
I have enjoyed reading Charles Drago and Tosh Plumlee very much. If they decide to stay gone it is not only the regulars who will miss out (although I expect many of you will keep in touch behind the scenes) but also those of us (and I know I'm not alone) who remain in the shadows.
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Otto.
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'They will kill Obama if he becomes US president': Outcry over Nobel Prize winner's assassination warning
British Nobel Prize winner Doris Lessing caused uproar last night by predicting the assassination of Barack Obama if he becomes the first black U.S. president.
Maybe we should invite old Dori to the forum?
Otto.
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Stone called JFK and Nixon his Godfather 1 & 2. In some ways I agree. Whatever the case, I think Nixon is his best film, among many gems. But I hadn't heard about this biopic. The last I read he was working on another Vietnam picture call Pinkville.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000231/
Otto.
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Im miffed as to what people see in Obama that will bring any change. He campaigned for lieberman, Ziggy B. is his top fo po man. And yes he Did praise Reagan for bringing change, I dont care how they want to spin it. It is dangerously delussional and disinformational to compare the change brought by Reagan to any change whatsoever going in the other direction: one kind of change is swimming downstream the other is swimming upstream.
What would have happened to the Republican party if Goldwater had praised FDR and LBJ in 1964? Even if he had these praises would have been counterbalanced by hundreds of haymakers aimed right at the nogin of liberalism.
Obomb'em DID make such comments about Reagan the terrorist, and there is rarely even a rabbit punch at the war mongers. All of his anti-war credentials are based on a vote from the free-throw line in 2002 in Il State Leg. Does anyone remember his unbelievably reckless comments about pakistan, extremisms that hardly raised an eyebrow from the Corporate Press.... oh that would be because it is rightward extremsism. And this about a country with nukes, islamic extrmists, ISI-CIA snake dancers and tribalists who are often grumpy. Just might be considered a rash comment by anyone not watching harles Gibson on ABC!
Honestly, I just don't get the enthusiasm for Barack and Bomb'em Check out his corporate funding from Open Secret site. He is virtually identical to Hillary Rodham Bush.
Nat, I don't think you have to worry. Obama will not get in as President or even close. The powers that be, who decimated the Kennedy family, will have turned their blood-shot gaze on Obama. No way will a black man be President. Do you think the Rothschilds, the Morgans, the Bushes, the DuPonts, the Rockefellers, the Murchisons would allow that? Obama was raised in the Islamic faith. Now after 9/11, do you think anyone wants an Arab in the Presidency? Have people forgotten? They want to strike us from within (with help from the wealthy oil barons). Keep us in line. Keep us afraid. And I am afraid -- due to the Bushes of the world. But don't worry about Obama getting into office election day (if he's still alive). Another awful thing is going to happen. And Ted and Caroline have frosted the cake.
Kathy
Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised in a forum such as this that there is a sensitivity about the unthinkable happening to Obama should he become the Democrats choice for the presidency. To some of you this kind of conspiracy is a very real possibility. Although I agree with many here that JFK's assassination was driven by conspiracy, I'm not so sure that Obama falls so easily into the category of "radical" despite his race or his upbringing. I am not sure he is that far away from being part of the machine.
At any rate, I notice that Mr Plumlee has started a thread about his fears of the past repeating itself, here:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=12132
Otto
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Im miffed as to what people see in Obama that will bring any change. He campaigned for lieberman, Ziggy B. is his top fo po man. And yes he Did praise Reagan for bringing change, I dont care how they want to spin it. It is dangerously delussional and disinformational to compare the change brought by Reagan to any change whatsoever going in the other direction: one kind of change is swimming downstream the other is swimming upstream.
What would have happened to the Republican party if Goldwater had praised FDR and LBJ in 1964? Even if he had these praises would have been counterbalanced by hundreds of haymakers aimed right at the nogin of liberalism.
Obomb'em DID make such comments about Reagan the terrorist, and there is rarely even a rabbit punch at the war mongers. All of his anti-war credentials are based on a vote from the free-throw line in 2002 in Il State Leg. Does anyone remember his unbelievably reckless comments about pakistan, extremisms that hardly raised an eyebrow from the Corporate Press.... oh that would be because it is rightward extremsism. And this about a country with nukes, islamic extrmists, ISI-CIA snake dancers and tribalists who are often grumpy. Just might be considered a rash comment by anyone not watching harles Gibson on ABC!
Honestly, I just don't get the enthusiasm for Barack and Bomb'em Check out his corporate funding from Open Secret site. He is virtually identical to Hillary Rodham Bush.
The only time I'm been impressed with Obama is when he makes a speech.
He's a great speaker.
However he's a standard issue politician from what I've seen.
My candidate, Dennis Kucinich, just dropped out of the presidential race to focus on reelection to congress.
No one else is in Kucinich's league.
Not even close.
At the same time none of the other Dem candidates are nearly as bad as Billary.
I don't think Obama is a great speaker. I think he can be awkward and inconsistent. Perhaps after having to endure years of listening to Bush our standards have been lowered radically. Obama isn't in the same class as JFK, for instance.
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if this one hasn't been posted yet...
XTC's "Peter Pumkinhead"
The video they shot for the song recreates part of the assassination.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgC9KyHyRk
Peter pumpkinhead came to town
Spreading wisdom and cash around
Fed the starving and housed the poor
Showed the vatican what golds for
But he made too many enemies
Of the people who would keep us on our knees
Hooray for peter pumpkin
Wholl pray for peter pumpkinhead?
Oh my!
Peter pumpkinhead pulled them all
Emptied churches and shopping malls
Where he spoke, it would raise the roof
Peter pumpkinhead told the truth
But he made too many enemies...
Peter pumpkinhead put to shame
Governments who would slur his name
Plots and sex scandals failed outright
Peter merely said
Any kind of love is alright
But he made too many enemies...
Peter pumpkinhead was too good
Had him nailed to a chunk of wood
He died grinning on live tv
Hanging there he looked a lot like you
And an awful lot like me!
But he made too many enemies...
Hooray for peter pumpkin
Wholl pray for peter pumpkin
Hooray for peter pumpkinhead
Oh my oh my oh!
Doesnt it make you want to cry oh?
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Can anyone recommend a good book on the life of Hoover?
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If you click on the link and get a BAD REQUEST error, remove the slash at the end and reload the page.
Thanks for these. Can't say I support their every theory, but it was interesting enough.
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Didn't David Morales and David Atlee Phillips both confess, shortly before their deaths, to being in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated?
People can confess all they like but until they produce some hard evidence it isn't going to matter to the 'lone nut' crowd or our government.
And even if some proof is brought forth, who makes the official call? We have plenty of books that conclude there was a conspiracy. Does the news have to hit the front page of the New York Times to be official? History books re-written? Government acknowledgement?
Otto
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I am 41. I was born and raised in Chicago but I now call southern Wisconsin my home. I studied history, film and English in college but I am not degreed. My interests include travel, history, film, music, literature, politics and writing.
I have been reading these forums with some interest for the past two years and have finally decided to join and participate in any way I can.
David Atlee Phillips: The Mastermind?
in JFK Assassination Debate
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Although in this case I don't think that is Phillips, the way a photograph is taken and the way it has been handled throughout the years can make someone look very different than they really are. Add scanning and copying images and it makes it more complicated.