David Von Pein
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11 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Cites please.
Oswald denied ever being in Mexico City in his interrogations.
But what about COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 15, Sandy? (Which has OSWALD'S own signature on it.)
Don't tell me! Let me guess! CE15 is yet another piece of "fake" evidence!?
Is that going to be your response to CE15, Sandy?
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14 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:
Everything's a lie, everything's fake. Pretty convenient to just trot that out as an excuse every time someone challenges you on your claims.
As you know, Jonathan, that's the M.O. of virtually all Internet conspiracy theorists. And has been for years now.
Here's what Jim Hargrove wrote in December 2018:
JIM HARGROVE SAID: Question: How much of the evidence against “Lee Harvey Oswald” is fake? Answer: ALL OF IT, except, of course, for the many mistakes made during the hasty cover-up.
DAVID VON PEIN THEN SAID: Thanks, Jim Hargrove, for putting that belief in writing (and in a succinct form). I'll now be able to use your quote whenever I want to highlight yet another CTer's absurd "Over The Top" beliefs relating to the evidence in the John F. Kennedy murder case. Much obliged. (And the placing of quotation marks around Lee Harvey Oswald's name is another humorous little idiosyncrasy to be found among the current batch of 21st-century conspiracy fantasists. As if there was actually more than one "Lee Harvey Oswald". Too cute.) -
Click for a nice big view of a pre-Stemmons Freeway photo of Dealey Plaza and west Dallas. This picture was taken on JFK's 35th birthday (May 29th, 1952)....
For a related discussion, CLICK HERE.
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21 minutes ago, William Paris said:
I don't think there were any "hard hitting" type of questions.
That's too bad.
22 minutes ago, William Paris said:What I can say David, is it's not too late to get some clarification. I recommend you reach out to Robenalt immediately.
Thanks for the info, William.
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Bump.....
I wonder how the proposed "redesign" of Dealey Plaza is progressing, one year later?
(Click to enlarge these photos....)
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19 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
So...are the words on this website copyrighted? I honestly don't know. And if they are, by whom?
3 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:If a person puts any meaningful thought into something they write, it is creative. And since it is creative, the writer automatically has copyright to it.
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Copyright Registration Fees can be found HERE.
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51 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:
You need to get permission from the authors (regardless of forum rules) because they are the copyright holders.
You're dead wrong about this.
You need to re-read Pat Speer's last several posts regarding this issue.
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"Just having Lee Oswald in the general area of the [Tippit] crime, with a gun, and acting "funny" and obviously avoiding the police is a good hunk of circumstantial evidence leading to his guilt right there. Where does the road of common sense take a reasonable person when JUST the above after-the-shooting activity of Lee Harvey Oswald is examined objectively? It sure doesn't lead to total innocence, I'll tell ya that right now. (Especially when the stuff that went on inside the movie theater is factored in as well.) In a nutshell, this murder boils down to the following concrete fact (based on the overall weight of the evidence that surrounds the crime): If Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill J.D. Tippit -- then J.D. Tippit wasn't killed at all. Maybe it was all some kind of "Bobby Was In The Shower" type of dream or something instead." -- DVP; October 2006
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8 hours ago, Marcus Fuller said:
"Oswald did not kill Tippit and I know this because...."
..he couldn't be in two places at once.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/tippit-timelines.html
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Here's another good question that conspiracy theorists need to answer....
The fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was running around---on foot---with a gun in his hands near the area of Tenth Street and Patton Avenue in Oak Cliff at just about the very same time when J.D. Tippit was being shot and killed is a fact that is NOT really important at all when trying to determine who shot Officer Tippit....because....?
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On 12/10/2023 at 4:20 PM, Sandy Larsen said:
DVP took that material from the Education Forum without permission.
On 12/11/2023 at 12:17 AM, David Von Pein said:No permission was required prior to Aug. 2019 (which is when James Gordon decided to add a new rule to the EF rulebook so that he could find a "legal" [sort of] excuse to kick me out the door, which he did). So Sandy's comment above does not apply, and is not a fair comment.
14 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:You need to get permission from the author, not the forum.
But I didn't "need" to get any permission from anybody prior to late August of 2019, because no such "Get Permission" rule was officially on the EF books until Aug. 27, 2019.
That was the point, Sandy (which you seem to want to ignore).
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13 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
So...is David making money off his website?
The answer to that is ..... No. Not a penny.
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12 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:
If you read Hosty's testimony he mentions that he doesn't write in sentences when taking notes. In point of fact, almost no one does. So it follows that this was a draft, and not notes. He published his notes, moreover, in his book, and it was as you would expect...words and fragments.
OK. That sounds reasonable. Thanks.
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"Hosty Notes" Addendum.....
I don't think the words "Presidential Parade" came out of the mouth of Lee Harvey Oswald at all. Based on all of the official FINAL reports (from Fritz, Bookhout, Hosty, and Kelley), I think the words "P. Parade" that appear in the "new" Hosty note were probably HOSTY'S words and HOSTY'S interpretation of Oswald's "out with Bill Shelley" statement. Otherwise, we'd have a lot more reports (and notes) that had the word "Parade" in them.
More....
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/02/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1308.html
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25 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:
The Hosty "notes" are not notes taken down during the interview, as originally claimed, but an outline for a report he never wrote, was never submitted, or was submitted but then rejected.
How can you know such a thing? Is it because the notes are written on the back of an affidavit form?
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8 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
So... since I'm pretty sure David has previously agreed to remove quotes from fellow members should they ask him to do so...those upset by his quoting them need to ask him to remove the quotes, and they will vanish.
Is that right, David?
No, that's not right, Pat. I never agreed to remove anything from my site at any time. Because, in my opinion, I have done nothing wrong at all by merely re-posting Education Forum material that is already public to my own website.
And BTW, let me also add this important point....
Prior to late August of 2019, nobody at this forum gave a damn about the fact that I was copying some of their posts to my site (even though most EF members positively knew that I was doing it---because I had told them several times in many pre-2019 posts that I was doing it).
It wasn't until late 2019 that anyone gave two hoots about what I was doing at my own site. It was only at that time then, in August of 2019, for some reason, that I became a law-breaking criminal and a member of the Ten Most Wanted, even though I had broken no laws (and had broken no "EF rules" either at that time prior to August 2019, because forum owner James R. Gordon had not even placed on the EF books the new "Do Not Copy Posts Without Permission" rule until approximately 9 hours after he had booted me off the forum).
Go figure the fickleness of Internet CTers. I sure can't.
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6 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
I seem to remember a discussion on this forum about whether or not David could quote this forum on his site, and I believe he agreed to remove any quotes from a poster who requested he do so.
Incorrect. I never agreed to any such thing.
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8 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Not to mention that DVP took that material from the Education Forum without permission.
No permission was required prior to Aug. 2019 (which is when James Gordon decided to add a new rule to the EF rulebook so that he could find a "legal" [sort of] excuse to kick me out the door, which he did).
So Sandy's comment above does not apply, and is not a fair comment.
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4 minutes ago, Alan Ford said:
But hey, propagandists gonna propagandize.
And fantasists will always fantasize.
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29 minutes ago, Alan Ford said:
Kind of like your notorious habit of excerpting from forum discussions with CTers on your site in a way that always gives you the last word.
What would you expect, for Pete sake? It's MY own site.
I find it difficult to believe that even a conspiracy fantasist like yourself is actually silly enough to expect that the final words that I choose to print in any of my various articles/pages on MY website (the "sign off" for those pages, IOW) would feature comments written by some conspiracy theorist.
If you think that, you're living on Planet Venus.
(Also --- Do you ever wonder if an "LNer" ever gets "the last word" on Kennedys & King or any other site run by a CTer? I sure don't wonder. I know the answer.)
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2 hours ago, William Paris said:
If you would like an answer to the 83/88 issue I suggest you pursue it.
I take it then, based on your reply above, that nobody at the 2023 Wecht Conference bothered to ask Mr. Landis any questions at all about the contradictory nature of Landis' current version of his "bullet" story as compared to those 1983 and 1988 newspaper articles....is that correct?
If that is correct, I can only wonder....why not?
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47 minutes ago, Miles Massicotte said:
Oswald answered yes, clearly understanding the implication of the question (i.e. you are suspected of shooting the president, shots came from the building, were you in the building?). It doesn't in any way rule out that he could have been on the steps.
But Oswald's response to the reporters [in the "I'm Just A Patsy" TV news film] generally matches the alibi that Oswald gave to Dallas Police Captain Will Fritz that same day, with Oswald telling Fritz that he was "having his lunch about that time [of the assassination] on the first floor" (Warren Report; Pg. 600).
Fritz never said that Oswald told him that he was "out with Bill Shelley in front" or "standing on the top step in front of the building with Wesley Frazier" as the assassination was taking place. Oswald specifically said that he was inside the building on the first floor (which was a big fat lie, of course). But, per CTers, I guess I'm supposed to believe that Captain Fritz was the person telling a bunch of lies, instead of Mr. Oswald.
But the main point I always stress to CTers when this topic comes up is....
When given several chances to shout out to the world (via the live television cameras and microphones that were being shoved in his face on both November 22nd and 23rd at Dallas City Hall), Lee Harvey Oswald never uttered a word about being on the front steps of the Book Depository at precisely 12:30 PM on November 22.
Don't you think that's mighty strange if Lee Oswald had, in fact, been located on those steps when JFK was being killed?More.....
DVP's JFK Archives / Oswald's Whereabouts At 12:30 PM On Nov. 22nd
LHO was in Mexico City
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by David Von Pein
The CE573 bullet was positively IDed in June '64 by the officer who first found it at Walker's house. Why isn't this good enough for CTers?....
"On June 12, 1964, Exhibit C148 [aka CE573], a mutilated rifle slug, was shown to Billy Gene Norvell, former Dallas police officer, 1603 Darr Street, Apartment 147, Irving, Texas, by Special Agent Bardwell D. Odum, Federal Bureau of Investigation. He identified this exhibit as the same one which he had found at the residence of Major General Edwin A. Walker, Dallas, Texas, on April 10, 1963, and identified his marking on this slug." -- CE2011 <---CLICK
Plus....let me add this....
The fact that CE573 (the "Walker bullet") cannot be linked to any specific rifle is virtual proof, right there, that it was not "planted" into the evidence pile. Because only a total idiot would want to do something so stupid. Although, yes, CE573 looks exactly like CE399 in many respects. No doubt about it. But if you're going to go to the trouble of PLANTING a bullet to frame a particular person, you're surely going to make sure that that bullet can be tied exclusively to the patsy's gun. Wouldn't you agree?
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2012/12/edwin-walker-and-lee-harvey-oswald.html