Terry Mauro

Tom , what is the point?

Youre the one who indicated it suggested they knew each other but failed to show that this was the case or that they were equity holders. Neither Tom or I said this precluded anything but you need to resort to strawmen to maintain your position. You seem to want us to prove a negative which is near impossible. Could he have been friends with Kennedy? Anything is possible but none of Trousers story can be confirmed there is no evidence Schofeild: knew the rich and famous let alone the Kennedys, let alone John-John, let alone back in 1994 knew Daryl Hannah was a pilot in 1999 came from a family of dog breeders Nor is there any evidence his wife Hannah or the Kennedys or that his ancestors portrait hung in the Kennedy residence. I have no idea what your objection to the 1st sentence was the second was reasonable since we have no idea how much research went into his statement we have no idea of its value. Get back to us when youve found someone who we know researched Joe Sr.s life who says the origin of his fortune is a mystery. Here is what you wrote: Are you sure they are equity holders in the trust? Were they/was he before 1999 (when John Jr. crashed) or 1994 (when he broke up with Daryl Hannah)? Even if he was, that would at best indicate he MIGHT have known John-Johns mothers ex-stepbrother I responded by pointing out your ridiculous "reasoning". There are no conditions regarding Sara Bullock and Brady Schofield, as it relates to Aqudineck Trust, which would preclude them from knowing John F. Kennedy Jr., or anyone else for that matter. You and Tom seem to insist that Brady does not move in the same social circles as the Kennedy's and nothing could be further from the truth. Acquidneck Trust, Newport Art Museum, Carnegie Abbey resort, all suggest he travels in the same circles.

Len, Gore Vidal, yes or no?

We are going in circles you keep claiming to have linked Schofield to various rich people but don’t provide any citations and normally come up blank in Google searches the only link I can find between him and von Auersperg even when using your misspelling is that they were among hundreds of people who donated to the Preservation Society of Newport County. But even if he recently hung out with these people that is scant indication he was a friend of John-Johh’s years ago. Who said he was blue collar? I’m not responsible for your intellectual limitations. I was asking you to document your claim they were “equity holders in the trust”. Even if he and his wife were that would only POSSIBLLY link them to Auchincloss. Auchincloss was “John-John’s mother’s ex-stepbrother” "How does any of this jibberish preclude him knowing John Kennedy Jr. ? None of this gobbly gook precludes him from knowing the Obama family, the Schriver family, the Astor family the Cushing family, the Forbes family or the Vanderbilt family. In fact it is more likely than not that he knows all the families listed above. Just as it is very likely to a certainty that all the families above know each other." I never indicated it precluded him from knowing John-John or the others but you have failed to produce any evidence he did. "I don't know the circumstances of JFK Jr's. decision to fly to Martha Vineyards. I suppose he didnt consider it a big deal. And I don't know that he turned down flight instructors." This was documented in the various threads about the crash you can find the links upthread. Can you think of a reason why he would ask a less experienced pilot to fly him? Or why there is no sign of this on the Net or why Schofield who come down to Essex County to fly him? Since you are so convinced by this unlikely tale you might want to ask the FAA for more details about Schofeild’s license it would boost your case if he was actually licensed before the crash and it would be interesting to know how many flight hours he had at the time. I can PM the address. And back to your source’s credibility as Tom pointed out there is no sign the Schofeilds were Great Dane breeders let alone renowned ones. "Joe Kennedy Sr.- who would have to document it to satisfy you?" Anything with a reasonable citation. "I have not read a single Joe Kennedy Sr. bio. What's wrong with the article? Does it stand out as awful; compared to what, your contributions?" I doubt the author actually spent much time trying to find out were Joe Kennedy Sr’s money came from. Talk about intellectual limitations. Whether or not they're equity holders in the trust doesnt preclude them from being friends with the Kennedy family and John Jr. in particular. Ownership in the trust doesnt limit their relationship with anyone the Kennedy family included. It's just another of your consciousness-ramblings. Check this out. I never indicated it precluded him from knowing John-John or the others but you have failed to produce any evidence he did. Or this winner I doubt the author actually spent much time trying to find out were Joe Kennedy Sr’s money came from. Researching the origin of the Kennedy wealth was not the purpose of his article. He is right when he says the origin of their wealth is still a mystery. Jibberish, that's all we get from you.

Terry, I stepped back from this discussion because you seem to take the opposite impression of some of my points. As you can see in the excerpt above, of my prior post, I posted that Mr. Schofield was not involved in the family business, a moving and storage company. You've posted twice now that I described Schofield as a moving van worker. The research on the family that I shared seems a logical step if we are to narrow the playing field to make some sense out of the references to Schofield posted anonymously on a food industry forum. Searching the domain neptunetrading.com @ http://domainwhitepages.com reveals that Schofield's brother, Bilie, handles the website work. Incidently, Neptune does not "own" the three fishing trawlers. They seem to buy the catches of those boats, and they are owned by a business in the state of Washington. All of the Schofield businesses seem to advertise only one telephone number, and some cases, a street address also associated with a 1998 R.I. business filing for a corporation that leases airplanes, Newport Aero, Inc.: http://ucc.state.ri.us/CorpSearch/CorpSearchInput.asp Now, I suspect that Sarah married a man with a character and personality resembling her dad's. By the way, all of the Westminster, "best in show" Great Danes of the last few years, are listed here, which ones did that food industry forum poster refer to as Schofield bred? Is Robert, our Mr. Schofield's father-in-law? He's been running the same road race as "Sarah C." has in the past, participated in, and radaris has Robert and Sarah linked... Brady made his way to Utica to participate in that same race in 1999 and in 2002: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Utica+Boilermaker+15k+%22brady+schofield%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= On edit...who are these people, they are using the same telephone number, too! http://www.marinerseafood.com/Contacts.htm None of this answers the question whether or not Brady is friends with the Kennedy family. In your earlier postings you seem to suggest that this type of information proved he did not know the Kennedy's.

Robert, Any relation to you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Morrow

Len, I don't know the guy. This is so much fun answering your questions. I found Brady Schofield partying with Alexander von Auspberg. When I googled that name it turned out he was the son of Sonny Von Bulow, step son to Claus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Anton_Alexander_von_Auersperg I found Brady connected to the Von Hapsburgs through these same Newport/Naples blue blood circles. This section of the Von Hapsburgs family have control of the Faberge Egg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faberg%C3%A9_egg http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/habsburg-family.htm Brady is no "moving van" blue collar guy from Rhode Island. Maybe you can check with your family the Oppenheimers and see what they can turn up for you? This seems to be their kind of group. Are you sure they are “equity holders in the trust”? Were they/was he before 1999 (when John Jr. crashed) or 1994 (when he broke up with Daryl Hannah)? Even if he was, that would at best indicate he MIGHT have known John-John’s mother’s ex-stepbrother There's that classic "say nothing" jibberish again. Let's see if I can translate " They are not equity owners and even if they are equity owners that indicates he MIGHT have known John-John's mother's ex step brother". HUH? How does any of this jibberish preclude him knowing John Kennedy Jr. ? None of this gobbly gook precludes him from knowing the Obama family, the Schriver family, the Astor family the Cushing family, the Forbes family or the Vanderbilt family. In fact it is more likely than not that he knows all the families listed above. Just as it is very likely to a certainty that all the families above know each other. I don't know the circumstances of JFK Jr's. decision to fly to Martha Vineyards. I suppose he didnt consider it a big deal. And I don't know that he turned down flight instructors. Joe Kennedy Sr.- who would have to document it to satisfy you? I have not read a single Joe Kennedy Sr. bio. What's wrong with the article? Does it stand out as awful; compared to what, your contributions? It must be a slow week for you.

That wasn’t my argument but as far as I understood it Tom was making the case the Kennedys and Schofields walked in different social circles and the claim about the portrait is unlikely to be true Yes they and hundreds if not thousands of other people are/were members of the “trust” there is no reason to presume they knew Auchincloss let alone the numerous children of his various step siblings. Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Did this supposedly happen before or after the crash? Even if true it would only link Schofield to his brother. I have no idea why he would make something like that up, perhaps to make himself seem more important. I spelled out why his claim that “Brady was supposed to pilot JFK Jr to Martha's Vineyard on the night of his death” “is almost certainly false” in post 140. To make a long story short: there is no indication on the Net they even knew each other, the former if he was licensed at all at the time was probablly far less experienced and he lived far from NYC. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16673&view=findpost&p=207788 Pathetic strawman, it could be true but I have yet to see any solid evidence he was a bootlegger, the only thing you cited was Dope Inc but despite you claim that it offered citations did not provide any documentation in support of that claim. I would totally agree with you but there's already evidence they mingle in the same social circles. Schofield and his bride Ms. Bullock are not your run of the mill folks. She is on the board of the International House NY, while Brady hangs with the Von Hapsburgs, Von Bulows, Buckley's, Vanderbilts and Astor families etc. What are you missing here? They're not "members" of the Aquidneck Land Trust, like you were a member of the YMCA. They are major financial contributors and equity holders in the trust. They control certain prime land with the idea of keeping it away from public development. There is no indication on the "Net" that I know my brother but I assure you I do. Brady did not fly the John Jr. so why would there be a story? The poster Trouser said he was not instrument rated so he decided not to fly. Pathetic strawman? Look who's talking. You claim because you don't like my source so therefore it isnt true. Not that's a contraption. Dope, Inc. is over 600 pages and the Kennedy's history is but a part of it. You want to reduce the entire argument to finding a source that will call him a bootlegger. That shouldnt be that tough. Look at the family history, how did they get their wealth? Apparently the media still doesnt know to this very day. 41 years after the old man died. QUOTE: Much about the Kennedy family’s fortune remains a mystery, but Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., provided a glimpse of his own wealth in his latest financial disclosure, which was filed in May but has not been reported. It shows Kennedy’s net worth rose last year to more than $6 million, and likely much more than that, according to an analysis by Eyewitness News. His annual income from dividends and other sources was more than $205,006, on top of his congressional salary of $174,000. http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/patrick-kennedy-inherits-dads-millions

Castro is a creature of the Synarchist International movement. http://www.tuks.nl/docs/SYNARCHY_MOVEMENT_OF_EMPIRE_BOOK_04.PDF Case Study # 3: Ibero-America To begin with, the term "Latin America" was a neologism concocted, with British consent, by the family of Napoleon Bonaparte and his nephew, Palmerston creation Napoleon III. It replaced the earlier conventional, appropriately descriptive term, Hispanic America, to the purpose of making a Paris takeover from Madrid, under Napoleon III, less obviously offensive to the victims of that enterprise. With respect to the sensibilities of the history-literate among both Hispanic-Americans and Brazilians, the descriptive term "Ibero-America" is to be preferred in U.S. diplomatic usages, except where the formerly traditional term, "Hispanic America," is explicitly descriptive. The majority of the population of the Americas, is concentrated in Ibero-America. As a comparison of 1946-1950 U.S.A. and Argentina standards of living and productivity demonstrates, the productive potential of a large component of the Ibero-America population approaches that of the United States itself. The great economic problems presently existing in Central and South America are chiefly the result of the 1967-1972 abrogation of the Bretton Woods monetary agreements, on the initiatives of Britain and the U.S.A. Nixon administration. The vital, regional strategic interest of the United States, under any global circumstance, next to the interest of the U.S. population itself, is the increase of the per-capita physical-productive powers of labor and physical family income of the populations of Ibero-America. The aggregate potential physical output of this hemisphere, during the medium-term, presently exceeds that of today's Asia as a whole! What prevents the United States from sponsoring that, its own vital strategic interest? The answer is, partly simply stupidity by Americans, high and low. A more specific problem is the obsessive, "free trade" delusions among the influential faction of followers of the late Friedrich von Hayek's and drug-legalizer Professor Milton Friedman's fascistic, pro-genocidal Mont Pelerin Society, whose Dr. Kevorkian-like use of the word "free," is translated into German vernacular as Vogelfrei (e.g., "the bird (soul) has flown"). What inside Ibero-America works to similar effect? For one thing, within Ibero-America there are also influential, Thatcherite followers of the fascistic Mont Pelerin Society, such as the influential Michael Novak. Then, there is the leading terrorist organization of Ibero-America, the Sao Paulo Forum, headed by Cuba's leading, France-connected Synarchist, Commandante Fidel Castro. To understand the Castro connection, dig out the old U.S. military intelligence files from the 1920s through the 1940s. Look under the heading "Synarchist," "Caribbean Legion," and so forth. Look under the headings "Communist," "Fascist," "Ethnology," "France," "Houston, Texas," "Schlumberger," "Jean de Menil," "Paul Rivet," "M. N. Roy," "Sendero Luminoso," "Mexico," and "Jacques Soustelle." Go forward, then, to the early 1960s. Cross-grid with the 1920s-1930s files, for the references "Soustelle," "OAS," "Assassination Plots Against President Charles deGaulle," "London," "Permindex," "Louis Mortimer Bloomfield," "Jean de Menil," "Rothko Chapel," "Clay Shaw," "Kennedy Assassination," "Permindex connections into the Warren Commission," and so on. All the facts needed to solve the mystery of Fidel Castro, are there either in that cross-gridding of material from established U.S. intelligence files, which this writer has excerpted in the past, or from relevant facts which this writer obtained through his heading special investigations internationally. Cross-grid the fruits of that investigation with the action, against the U.S. Government, in support of Colombia's Samper Pizano, from official institutions in London and Paris. Cross-grid with the pro-drug lobby operating within the Inter-American Dialogue, and with the role of those circles around U.S. State Department veteran spook Luigi Einaudi in crafting the 1995 corrupt "Security in the Americas" doctrine issued by the U.S. Department of Defense. Note the lying statements which the Bolivia press recently attributed to visiting U.S. Southern Command General Lawson Magruder. A clear picture of the leading elements of the problem appears. Fidel Castro, formerly a professed anti-Communist figure in the Synarchist tradition, was funded by the husband, Jean de Menil, of Houston-based Dominique Schlumberger de Menil, notable for her connections, together with her sister, to Paris' Liberation daily, to the careers of Francois and Danielle Mitterrand, and for her associations with Texas' Fort Marfa and Houston's wierdo center, the Rothko Chapel. George Bush (or, perhaps, his English-language translator) might tell more. De Menil funded the purchase of the Granma for Fidel's landing in eastern Cuba, and Fidel later, when the opportunity struck, became a professed Communist. Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union was dissolved; Castro, ever the man of opportunity, reacted like a true Synarchist, according to type; his Colombia drug and dirty-French connections came surging to the fore. Suddenly, Fidel Castro was the head of the major international terrorist ring operating in Central and South America, from Chiapas to Patagonia, the Sao Paulo Forum, the Europe-backed "New Age" insurgency force behind the terrorist operations which have virtually taken over Mexico's Chiapas province, a development which represents a major security threat to the United States, and a development which is the center of the current surge of international drug- and weapons-trafficking through Mexico. Fidel's insurgency agent in Venezuela, for example, is the Col. Hugo Chavez whose opinions underwent a miraculous metamorphosis, during his brief vacation spent in a prison cell. http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/1996/civil_wars.html For years Fidel Castro provided asylum to Robert Vesco. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/09/world/robert-vesco-fugitive-financier-is-arrested-in-cuba-the-us-says.html

Ironic Terry that you would find fault with someone else's "reasoning". Since "Trousher"'s claim that the Schofield was supposed to fly Kennedy is most certainly false there is no reason to believe the undocumented claims of the anonymous poster. And but you failed to provide any evidence they new each other. It seems that some members of of the Schofield family were members of the Aquidneck Land Trust or at least participated in some of its events and that John-John's mother's step-brother was on its board of advisors, to infer from that John Jr and Brady Schofield probably knew each other is wishful thinking. When I was a kid my family belonged to the 92nd St. Y, we did not know any of the directors or advisors let alone their distant relatives. Oh and we're still waiting for you to document your claim his grandfather was a bootlegger, sorry but the undocumented claims of your messiah's disciples don't count. I don't understand listing someone's ancestors as a way of determining whether person A, knows person B. If you can figure it out then let me know. Being members of Aquidneck Land Trust is not quite the same as swimming at the YMCA. Sara Bullock and Brady are both involved with Aquidneck, maybe they don't know each other either? Congressman Patrick Kennedy and Brady Schofield were both involved in the "Griswold House". Perhaps they were also unaware of each other in this endeavor too? Why is poster "Trousers" claim most certainly "false"? Please tell me. It makes absolutely no sense to post such a thing. Remember he didnt make this claim here on EF. He was communicating to people in the food industry that have no interest in the Kennedy family. This includes several people like Trouser that know Brady Schofield personally. Their interest in Brady was his role in the multi million dollar rip off of US Foodservice. Joe Kennedy Sr. wasnt a bootlegger because you don't like LaRouche. Great reasoning Colby, very persuasive.

Tom, your reasoning isnt that great. Read the original post again. QUOTE: Speaking of conspiracies, I understand Brady Schofield has surfaced again this time in the dog breeding business. His family has privately bred Great Danes for three generations. The Schofield family is renowned for their near perfect bitches that win year after year at Westminster. Schofield puppies fetch $2500 to $3500 and there is a six year waiting list for the prize winning puppies. Had it not been for Obama's daughters allergies, it is said one of Schofield's Danes would be the First Dog. Brady was introduced to Obama through the Kennedy family. The Kennedy's and Schofields run in the same social circle in Newport. There is a framed photograph of Brady's great grandfather and two of his Dogs which hangs on the wall of the main staircase at the Kennedy's Hyannis compound. __________________ Trouser I see no reason this could not be true. Why are you hung up (no pun intended) on a picture in the Hyannis Port compound of the Kennedy's? The families are either friends or they are not friends. Schofield and Bullock run in exactly the same social circles as the Kennedy family. You can find Schofield and Hugh D. Aunchinloss III connected through the Aquidneck Land Trust. Schofield and William F. Buckley sat on the board of some Art Museum. You make him out to be a "moving van" worker. I don't know why you're running through all these ancesters of Schofield, acting as if this means anything. Look at Joe Kennedy's family. Shanty town Irish mafia. Nothing royal about him at all.

There is too much dilution for appreciable capital to have come Brady's way. He is a stepson of his father's wife who became president of the family business, he has brothers and sisters to divide any inheritance with, and none of them appeared to be active in that family business. I see no money coming from inheritance, and if JFK, JR. introduced Brady to his future wife, Brady was already in Newport, posturing as a prosperous WASP, leveraging whatever connections he had made at Avon Old Farms and U. Vermont, to a degree sufficient for JFK, Jr. to pay any attention to him. So, whatever he is, he had some sort of a self-made reputation before he met JFK, Jr., and before he met Sarah Bullock. Also, Brady was out of school only ten years before JFK, Jr. died. His grandfather went from farming, to owning a restaurant, to assistant country jailer and deputy county sheriff, to first selectman of a small town. He had four sons and a daughter to divide his estate. If you're assuming I think there is a connection with John Jr's. plane crash and Brady Schofield then think again. That was not my purpose. I just thought the comment was quite interesting especially considering Brady's criminal role in US Foodservice and it's near collapse. It appears he is politically connected otherwise how explain cutting him loose. He ran the front companies, the re billing scam. There had to be several billion siphoned out of the business over 3-4 years. You also need to give me your definition of "middle class" Schofield was selling a $1.6 mansion in Newport, a $400K Piper, property in Naples. I think he's a tad bit above middle class. You also find him playing "clay court" tennis at some of the most exclusive resorts in Florida. Then there is always Carnegie Club owned by British billionaire Peter de Savary. I would say he's got alot more money than you think. How he got it might make for an interesting discussion.

There is nothing in Brady Schofield's family background to support a multi-generational relationship with the Kennedy family, and since the same sources state that JFK, Jr. knew Brady's future wide, Sarah C. Bullock through JFK, Jr.'s association with Daryl Hannah, it would seem there is not much point in looking into the background of Sarah. Here is the other information persuading me that Schofield is a dead end lead.: I am not sure I follow you here Tom. You pasted the post about a picture of Brady Schofield's father or grandfather hanging on the wall at the Kennedy compound. In fact it could very well be true. The information you brought back doesnt in any way preclude the possibility that the two families are close. And I believe the poster called Sara Bullock "the cousin of Darly Hannah". I have also looked at the possibility that Ms. Bullock was part of the "Calvin Bullock" family. The Pilgrim Society and all. Sara Bullock sat on the board of the "International House of NY", with such notables as Daisy and Paul Soros, along with a few other names that echo through recent political history. Donald Gibson in his book on the JFK assassination gives prominent converage to the International House as it relates to those interests involved in the murder of JFK. Schofield/Bullock seem to fit in quite nice with the blue bloods of Newport, Newburyport, NYC etc. The "eastern establishment".

I'm not sure why there would be a public story on this. It's actually a "non story", it never happened. The poster calling himself "Trouser" indicated he was close (a supplier) to certain key individuals at US Foodservice who were indicted for inflating profits by $800 million. This "ENRON" type scam included Brady Schofield who ran the "front companies" that siphoned off all the cash from the inflated invoices. "Trouser" had indicated he knew Brady personally. From what I can check he has been accurate so far. I do not know if Schofield knows the Kennedy family. But it's not a huge reach if it is true. I am not sure why lying about the Kennedy family connection makes any sense. It has no significance to food service people gossiping about the near bankruptcy of US Foodservice. I do believe you can find a link between Brady Schofield and Congressman Patrick Kennedy around the "Griswold House". Congressman Kennedy wanted the house to be classified as a national historical property. John NA Griswold ironically enough played a role in the British opium trade to China through his company, acting in concert with the British East India Company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._A._Griswold_House In recent years large foodservice distribution companies have been taken over by what appears to be organized crime. This includes US Foodservice as well as a multi billion dollar "custom" food distribution company called "Ameriserve" out of Dallas TX. Ameriserve filed chapter 11 bankruptcy around February 2000 or 2001. The CEO was a guy named "John Victor Holten" a Norwegian ex patriot. Forbes magazing commented that Holten was a "mysterious" Norwegian that no one really knew. A quick google search shows that he married into the Jacobs family in 1983. Louie Jacobs ran the money laundering outfit known as Emprise/ SportsSystem and now go by the name of Delaware North Company. It looks like papa Jacobs gave his son in law Apcoa Parking back in 1989 and is now known as Standard Parking (??). Many of the Kennedy Justice Department organized crime operatives went to work for Jacobs after leaving government. http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/10/style/john-v-holten-is-wed-to-lisann-jacobs.html So finding Brady Schofield to be close to the Kennedy family is not that much of a stretch. Schofield also runs containerized cargo vessels under his company "Neptune Trading". Like a mini East India Company?

The poster calling himself "Trouser" stated that Schofield "did not fly" the Kennedy entourage because according to the poster he was not instrument rated. Schofield is linked to the Kennedy clan. And I don't think anyone is making up stories about his family ties. All they stated on that industry website is that you can find Schofield hanging with the Von Hapsburgs, Von Bulows, Kennedy's and other wealthy families from that area. The companies he supposedly owned, were front companies set up by US Foodservice that acted as 3rd party billing companies. Vendors to US Foodservice would be told by the company to send their invoices to Brady Schofield. Brady would then "inflate" the cost of goods and rebill to the various US Foodservice operating companies. This created a huge spread between what was owed vendors and what the US Foodservice operating company paid Brady Schofield. The difference in actual price versus inflated price was likely in the billions of dollars given the turnover of product from a company as large as US Foodservice. He was named in a civil suit brought by Waterbury Hospital, and other customers of US Foodservice. It was a class action suit. Amazingly Schofield was dropped from the suit , even though he ran these fake 3rd party billing operations.

It wans't just the MSM, it was also the blogosphere which rose up against Caroline. This is what convinced me that the blogosphere was going to be little different than the MSM. The following column really ticked off Jane Hamsher. As it shoudl have. http://www.ctka.net/2009/hamsher.html That is an excellent column, Jim. Great info about JFK not being on the side of the colonialists; most do NOT know this. A lot of the "young" folks don't know much about John Kennedy. I wonder when the MSM will start talking honestly about the JFK assassination. Just last night I heard Chris Matthews on Hardball pushing the Big Lie about Lee Harvey Oswald being the lone nut killer of John Kennedy. [btw, Chris Matthews a friend of Richard Haass, head of CFR, and Haass' wife is an editor of Chris Matthews' book ...] A lot of the "young folks" don't know much about Lyndon Johnson either. They think he was some "great" man who gave black folks civil rights in 1964-1965 and was some sort of innocent bystander in the JFK assassination and cover up. They need to read LBJ: Mastermind of JFK's Assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/ . This was after Lyndon Johnson had done practically nothing for civil rights under JFK and was sabotaging the Kennedy's policy agenda on all fronts, domestic and foreign. Then, in my opinion, Lyndon Johnson and the CIA (and the shadow government) murdered John Kennedy. And the first thing Lyndon Johnson did, to pacify the Left who was so deeply suspicious of his possible role in the JFK assassination, was to come out for civil rights out of the blue. Didnt LBJ sign the Voting Rights Act into law? You really have to do better Robert. You wonder when main stream media will start talking honestly about the assassination? You mean when will they blame LBJ? Your job- if you choose to accept- is to do the Len Colby smackdown. Or so I have been told. Len: Many former candidates have been elected with little more than a law degree. It was that she has written on the Constitution that puts her in a better position, many candidates don't have a clue about the document they swear to uphold. And John John was blown out of the sky. But I don't expect you to do your homework. For those interested in some gossip about the JFK Jr. plane crash. It was reported that a Newport resident "Brady Schofield" was to pilot Jr. and his wife to Martha Vineyards the night of the crash. Brady Schofield became somewhat infamous in Y2003 when he helped to almost bankrupt the second largest foodservice distribution company US Foodservice. The copied post comes from a popular industry website that has spent hours and hours discussing the near collapse of US Foodservice. QUOTE: trouser Member Registered: Aug 21, 2008 Posts: 25 Aug 31, 2010 at 10:06 AM Reply with quote #15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Schofields wife Sarah is the cousin of Daryl Hannah. Brady was introduced to her by JFK Jr. Brady was supposed to pilot JFK Jr to Martha's Vineyard on the night of his death but Brady was not instrument rated and refused to fly his plane. JFK Jr. ultimately flew his own plane visual and the rest is history. Google "JFK's Funeral" and you can see images of Brady and his wife in sunglasses graveside. Brady indeed does own three fishing boats - with partners - and it is rummored they have filed claims with BP for damages from the oil spill even though they fish off the New England coast, far, far from the gulf. Did the White House approve these claims I wonder???? Also note that Governor Arnold Schwarzenager used Schofields mansion in Rhode Island as a summer retreat with wife Maria. Rhode Island swarmed with Kennedy's when Brady lived there. Anybody remember Vincent Albert "Buddy" Cianci, Jr?????? Don't mess with Schofield. He is connected. Martha Stewart did more jail time. __________________ Trouser Brady Schofield plea agreement with SEC http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/June06/schofieldpleapr.pdf Brady Schofield partying at Peter De Savary's "Save the Bay" fundraiser. http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/partypictures/2004/08_16_04/partypictures08_16_04.php Brady Schofield receiving his golf award at Peter De Savary's Carnegie Course from former President G HW Bush. http://www.carnegienewport.com/newsletter_pdf/Aug_Courier_17lr.pdf

I have mixed feelings about threads like this, as I am purely interested in what facts are still unresolved about the JFK Assassination, that are still not known. The Kennedy's silence, which has been about a topic for discussion for decades, and understandably so, ultimately reveals the internal dynamics of a political family that still is influencing policy in the government and our culture, however slight. see Robert Kennedy Jr.'s efforts to combat economic terrorism and the controversial Global warming debate, one of many political gulfs between the left and the right, not unlike the current controversy over Darwinism, and intelligent design. BTW is anyone on the forum keeping up with wacky Christine O'Donnell...lol The issue of conspiracy regarding the assassinations of Pres. John F. Kennedy, Sen Robert F. Kennedy and the death of John F Kennedy Jr., as far as the Kennedy family goes, is a no-win proposition for them. Why? Because the official version of history is that of those three assassinations the answer, like it or not for the American politico/media sometimes known as "the epicenter of short attention span theater" is..... 1. Oswald 2. Sirhan 3. tragic plane crash Whether that is true or not, to a degree is not the issue. The issue for the Kennedy's is that this is not 1963, the dedication to reality crowd, [scott Peck, anyone] non-believers of lone-nut land seem to not understand, is that on a mass media level if every Kennedy openly spoke of their possible belief, [do we really know what they currently believe?] that, at least the JFK and RFK assassinations were conspiracy's, the Kennedy family would be finished as a force for change in our culture, because the same politicos/media structure previously referenced would be saying that "they have truly went off the deep end," with the same resultant endgame that does not take a rocket scientist to fathom where that scenario ends. Another reason is that some of the deeper aspects of the JFK assassination, which are not irrelevant to the full story of the assassination have to do with Joseph Kennedy Sr's relationship to organized crime, which is not a myth, and was certainly not a myth in 1963. it provided a lot of grist for the windmill of animus towards the group of American's that despised the Kennedy family. Robert, Just who pushes this Global Warming "hoax" and what are the underlying axioms? Is it not that there are too many people? Is that not the crux of Global Warming and the green movemen? I am not surprised to see a Kennedy pushing this nonsense. Really it is a genocidal policy to reduce the worlds population.

Do you really think I am going to fetch for you? I told you before do your own fetching. Your opinion is of no concern to me. Absurd for 2 reasons: - My whole point is that there is little or any hard evidence Joe Sr. was a bootlegger, how exactly am I supposed to find something that (IMO) doesn’t exist? - You are the one who made the claim therefore it is incumbent on you to back it up. You cited Dope Inc. but despite your claims to the contrary, the book provided no evidence. Yes Len there is no "hard" evidence. Joe Kennedy was a New England shoe cobbler.

You're always anticipating a "counter punch", and that's why you contradict yourself. It's a common feature of your "consciousness-ramblings".

We will see what happens with this. The media often times creates these kind of provocations so they can morph their "talking heads" into new characters. It's kind of like professional wrestling, where one day the bad guy flips sides and becomes a good guy. The crowd cheers the new good guy forgetting that just two weeks ago they hated this character. I am reminded of CNN's Lou Dobbs who in the late 1990's was one of the biggest cheerleaders for the "New Economy". This was the period where Sir Alan Greensperm was "inflating" the NASDAQ to unbelieveable levels. I think the NASDAQ bubble reached 5,000 point level before collapsing. Dobbs left CNN before the 2000-2001 collapse of all those fake internet stocks. He then returned to CNN as a "leader of the common man", running stories of Wall Street greed, illegal immigration and the like. Every one of his rabid viewers forgot that Lou was a leading media spokesperson for the very interests that had ruined their jobs, living standards, etc.

What's interesting,saying "I don't like A or B, I demand another option? Yes, how interesting. If I didnt know better I would say you havent a clue what you're saying.

Do you really think I am going to fetch for you? I told you before do your own fetching. Your opinion is of no concern to me.

Glad to serve as enter or infotainment Don't stop there, why don't you show him your musical hot dog eating act? Now that's entertainment. The fact that it's classified as "art" by the ACLU and protected under the first amendment ought to impress John that much more.

Moreover, you are playing both sides of the fence. In one breath you said that the critics of Wiki Leaks are unlikely to get anyone killed, thus implying that Wiki Leaks' revelations run such a risk-- and in the next breath you said you are unaware of any documented or even alleged cases that Wiki Leaks has caused anyone to be killed. Wow, you said two things which cancelled each other out. That's a very common tactic by Colby. You may notice a great number of his sentences are structured in just this way. It's literally jibberish. Reminds me of this SNL character

The LaRouchebots at the lit tables give stuff away but press for a donation if you take stuff. I thought I remembered them offering Dope Inc in the 70s and 80s but I could be mistaken it was a long time ago. But enough of this tangent, can you cite any evidence Joe Kennedy Sr. was a bootlegger? Trying to organize the population is not quite the same as staging a GG Allin concert where the audience gets to watch GG eat a hotdog out of another mans arse. The latter is behavior protected by the ACLU I provided you evidence, if you don't like it then you'll have to do your own homework. Dope, Inc. covers the Kennedy's starting on page 441 "The Kennedy's Organized Crime in Government". The footnotes are all there. If you wish a copy there is one available (1992 edition) on Ebay for $43.95. http://cgi.ebay.com/DOPE-INC-The-Book-Drove-Kissinger-Crazy-3-/390243120530?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item5adc4d7592 I'm calling you on your lame bluff. Obviously you know I'm not going to buy that POS. It's online and you know it because you've provided links a few times. The book in its entirety can be found at the link below. Please quote any passages where Kennedy's involvement with bootlegging is spelled out and DOCUMENTED (I.E. supported by citations. Odd that a book you think is so important has been out of print for so long. http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=266 Dumb cracks that only you seem to get don't interest me.