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On 9/30/2023 at 5:11 PM, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:
A good scientific method is to make a hypothesis & then cherry pick the evidence that fits.
Is that sarcasm?
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On 9/13/2023 at 9:27 PM, Marjan Rynkiewicz said:
The headshot at Z312 was the last shot of Hickey's autoburst of say 4 or 5 shots of his AR15 at about Z305 to Z312. Young probly saw the remnant slug (it exited JFK's head & cracked the windshield).
Are there ear-witnesses who said the the shooting sequence ended with a burst of machine gun fire?
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On 9/13/2023 at 3:57 AM, Pete Mellor said:
Another media article appearing today, following on from the Landis story. Old news, but more MSM noise.
Several interviews given by nurse Hall in 2013 seem to corroborate Landis' fresh claim.
'On the cart, halfway between the earlobe and the shoulder, there was a bullet laying almost perpendicular there, but I have not seen a picture of that bullet ever,' she told The Telegraph almost 10 years ago.
Separately, she told the Sunday Mirror: 'I could see a bullet lodged between his ear and his shoulder. It was pointed at its tip and showed no signs of damage. I remember looking at it – there was no blunting of the bullet or scarring around the shell from where it had been fired.
'I'd had a great deal of experience working with gunshot wounds but I had never seen anything like this before.
'It was about one-and-a-half inches long – nothing like the bullets that were later produced.
Hm. The lead part of lots and lots of bullets can be around an inch-and-a-half. And I daresay that most hunting rounds are pointed. So the idea that this was an exotic round is just wrong.
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On 9/12/2023 at 12:47 AM, Benjamin Cole said:
We also don't know if bullet wounds sometimes "close up" (I have been researching this, but without avail). That is, after a bullet passes through a body, then internal organs and muscles shift, blocking the passageway to probes, even by experts.
Reading through this 5-month old stuff:
Bullet wounds will close up behind the bullet. I have seen it with my own eyes. A small caliber bullet (or small shot from a shotgun) can enter the body and lead observers -- close, less than a foot away -- to believe that the bullet hadn't even entered the body, but only left a bruise. I vas dere, Chahlie.
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On 2/16/2024 at 9:38 AM, W. Tracy Parnell said:
When he publishes book number 5 and if that book actually contains specifics about the assassination-i.e. who did it, how and why, he will be dead in the water. It is the easiest thing in the world to poke holes in something specific as the conspiracy people have done with the official version for years. That is why most conspiracy books are vague.
Nice guy and I am sure there are many who appreciate the work he has done. but the theory (as I understand it currently) is nonsense.
What makes Newman's theory of the assassination nonsense?
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2 hours ago, David Von Pein said:
After staring at your looped clip many times in a row, it would seem to me that there are two people (men?) to the right (east) of the mailboxes, and the guy on the left seems to be moving his left arm in some manner. I'm guessing that that is the man's ARM and not a paper bag as some EF members seem to believe it is.
David, I thought there were two men, as well, initially. But, further observation led me to believe that the "man" on the right is the shadow of the man on the left. And, the man is definitely holding something. And the something isn't very heavy because he seems to be holding it with only one hand at a very awkward angle. I still don't know what's happening for sure, but it may be that the man is raising the far end of the object over the cross piece of the street barricade.
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The fake Selective Service card is a helluva mystery. What was it for? Any American man would have known it was bogus because Selective Service cards didn't have photos on them.
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On 10/1/2022 at 10:50 AM, Chris Barnard said:
What’s in it for JJA? You’re screwed if you get caught. I feel like JJA justified his actions as patriotism or the greater good. He seems an unlikely double agent. He could see first hand the Soviets losing. There was all of the money in the world for JJA to make with the foreknowledge of CIA ops and how they change things abroad. He wouldn’t be better off. I guess the Soviets could have blackmail materials compromising him, its a possibility.
I don't think he was.
No, JJA wasn't Popov's mole, but I suspected him for years if for no other reason than he never seemed to be able to find the mole and because of his close association with Philby.
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On 10/1/2022 at 10:50 AM, Chris Barnard said:
What’s in it for JJA? You’re screwed if you get caught. I feel like JJA justified his actions as patriotism or the greater good. He seems an unlikely double agent. He could see first hand the Soviets losing. There was all of the money in the world for JJA to make with the foreknowledge of CIA ops and how they change things abroad. He wouldn’t be better off. I guess the Soviets could have blackmail materials compromising him, its a possibility.
I don't think he was.
No, JJA wasn't Popov's mole, but I suspected him for years if for no other reason than he never seemed to be able to find the mole and because of his close association with Philby.
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On 10/1/2022 at 10:50 AM, Chris Barnard said:
What’s in it for JJA? You’re screwed if you get caught. I feel like JJA justified his actions as patriotism or the greater good. He seems an unlikely double agent. He could see first hand the Soviets losing. There was all of the money in the world for JJA to make with the foreknowledge of CIA ops and how they change things abroad. He wouldn’t be better off. I guess the Soviets could have blackmail materials compromising him, its a possibility.
I don't think he was.
No, JJA wasn't Popov's mole, but I suspected him for years if for no other reason than he never seemed to be able to find the mole and because of his close association with Philby.
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On 10/1/2022 at 10:35 PM, Sandy Larsen said:
Why is the mole referred to as "Popov's mole?"
I know that Pyotr Popov was a KGB double agent. But what has he to do with Angleton's hypothetical mole?
No one seems to have answered you directly.
Popov, who defected in place, told his CIA contact (George Kisevalter) that the highest echelons of the CIA had been infiltrated. He had heard the information from KGB agents who was bragging. Hence, "Popov's mole."
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Yes, a rifle was found shoved in between boxes and wasn't what one would call "well-hidden."
The enclosure of boxes was the so-called "sniper's nest" in front of the window from which Oswald allegedly fired.
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On 10/8/2022 at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Cohen said:
Not only is it NOT overwhelming, it's almost entirely based on the same kind of (to put it mildly) strained logic that fuels idiotic theories such as "Harvey & Lee." Show me ONE piece of actual documentary evidence -- not circumstantial evidence -- that indicates Oswald had any professional association with the CIA or that he was somehow "placed" by the CIA at the Texas School Book Depository? And don't bother with nonsense such as James Wilcott's HSCA testimony...
Have you read Newman's _Oswald and the CIA_?
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On 10/6/2022 at 1:00 AM, Nick Bartetzko said:
Gerry Hemming liked to tell stories and at least this one appears plausible. It is a better possibility …imo…. than loosening floorboards and crawling onto the top of an elevator. Hemming also mentioned the importance of controlling the high ground, so this fits with that criteria.
I agree that Hemming was a blowhard. However, there WERE loose flooring boards on 6th and 7th. The flooring was being renovated.
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On 10/5/2022 at 7:14 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
IMHO: Even if the CIA was running LHO, and suspicions run high...that is not the same a guilt beyond reasonable doubt. Maybe LHO was being run out of the Miami station of the CIA, and higher ups not involved.
Read Larry's _Tipping Point_.
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On 10/5/2022 at 3:01 PM, Sandy Larsen said:
Oh contraire... the Mexico City trip with an Oswald imposter visiting the Cuban Consulate, and the CIA-fabricated story of Oswald meeting with KGB assassinations chief Valeriy Kostikov; partying with Cuban Consulate employee Sylvia Duran; and collecting $6500 earnest money for the assassination from a red-haired negro... that is all evidence of the CIA directing the assassination.
I don't know why there are so many people left who ignore the obvious.
"Here! Hear!" he cried and then banged his empty mug on the table, signalling the barmaid.
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On 10/3/2022 at 7:19 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
It may be that higher-ups leaked the right info to the Miami CIA station crowd regarding LHO....
Hey, just IMHO....
Exactly the thesis of Larry's _Tipping Point._
On 10/3/2022 at 7:24 PM, Benjamin Cole said:The problem with the JFKA is there are enough opaque areas that we fill in the blanks with our suppositions. Our suppositions strike ourselves as tremendously insightful and reasonable. Excellent conjecture!
The next guy reads your supposition and yawns. He has a better supposition. His supposition.
So it goes....
You must shoot your darlings.
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On 10/3/2022 at 1:00 PM, Matthew Koch said:
Hi Ben,
I think there are solid grounds to make the case that Oswald was a CIA, FBI, ONI, and possibly Local Police Informant, Asset, Agent or Operative.It really is hard for me to wrap my head around Oswald's many possible covert employers. He goes to Russia either as CIA or ONI. He works to infiltrate both pro- and anti- Castro operations, almost certainly for the CIA. His relationship to Hosty is... odd. And it seems sensible to me to posit that he was working for ATF when he was ordering weapons. Who was he working for when he took the job at the Depository? Himself? That damned second bag in the dead mail office insures that his employment there was not un-intelligence related. He was there to take the fall and he thought he was doing something else
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On 10/3/2022 at 4:06 PM, Roger Odisio said:
The mid level CIA mercenaries and Cuban exiles revenge idea misses the main point about the importance of the JFKA. It was not an isolated incident, not a one time murder, not solely about one man. It was part of an ideological war by the Dulles brothers and their cohorts immediately after WWII. Allen Dulles thought the US was on the wrong side during the war. The Soviet Union was the real enemy.
I think it was Douglass who said that worrying about who pulled the trigger from where was to reduce the assassination to a matter of "there was a guy in a car and another guy shot him."
The military-industrial-intelligence complex had gotten away with so much abroad, they decided it was time to start picking and choosing presidents. When they couldn't swing an election (like 1976 and 1992), they had tools at hand to minimize the impact that said president could have on their agenda. 2008 wasn't a problem, the president kept the country neck deep in Iraq and Afghanistan, and was willing to sanction the murder of US citizens without due process. 2020 and war in the Ukraine and the military-industrial part is making money like never before.
They make me sick.
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On 10/2/2022 at 7:36 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
There are solid grounds to believe LHO was a CIA asset, and that he took an easy potshot at General Walker and missed.
What is the evidence for Oswald shooting at Walker? I've long thought that Walker arranged his own shooting, in an effort to drum up some free publicity. And he saw an opportunity to get double the results by claiming that Oswald had done it.
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On 10/2/2022 at 1:53 AM, Sandy Larsen said:
Okay, I think I get it.
Double agent Popov was arrested and sentenced to death in October 1959. Apparently Angleton figured that a KGB mole working for the CIA had informed the Soviets that Popov was giving secrets to the CIA, and that was the reason for his arrest and death sentence. And so Angleton set out to find "Popov's mole."
Also, Nosenko convinced Angleton that there was a mole and that Golytsin was sent over to protect said mole.
EDITED: I said it backwards: Nosenko was sent sent to to make Golytsin out to be a xxxx in case Golytsin new the identity of the mole.
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On 9/11/2022 at 12:19 AM, Gerry Down said:
Marina was the mother of a US citizen - Rachel Oswald.
I think June was a US citizen at birth, as well. Lee was a US citizen who had spent 10 years prior to June's birth in the US, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14.
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On 9/12/2022 at 7:24 PM, Benjamin Cole said:
A concern about the janitor call:
Before the JFKA, wasn't LHO generally referred to as "Lee Oswald"?
Also, LHO was a book handler, not a janitor.
After the JFKA, there were any number of LHO sitings and connections, by earnest but inaccurate witnesses.
The missing records from Nov. 20 are, as usual in everything about the JFKA case, suspicious.
Yes, it appears that Oswald went by "Lee." Anytime that "Harvey" is used is suspect.
Lee's actual position was as temporary labor, shoving books around while the new flooring was being laid.
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