New witness found on Oswald's activities in New Orleans

[William Kelly]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

[Greg Parker]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, Gregory/Dawson may have cashed an Oswald check, but I've found no evidence for it. Her daughter I believe, was the person who signed the rent receipts for him, so if McLaney ever owned the dwelling it was either before Oswald moved in, or after the assassination (as Isabella was the person who signed the consent to search for the FBI).

You may be right about the bar. She lived at 414 Emerald St. Is that near the French Quarter?

[William Kelly]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, Gregory/Dawson may have cashed an Oswald check, but I've found no evidence for it. Her daughter I believe, was the person who signed the rent receipts for him, so if McLaney ever owned the dwelling it was either before Oswald moved in, or after the assassination (as Isabella was the person who signed the consent to search for the FBI).

You may be right about the bar. She lived at 414 Emerald St. Is that near the French Quarter?

Adele says that when she went down into the New Orleans city clerk's basement file rooms she saw paperwork that indicated that the Magazine Street property was transfered to Isabelle Dawson, of Emerald Street, around 1974. Adele said the records indicate that Dawson may be somehow related to Mr. and Mrs. William McLaney.

The transfer of the property between these people might not have been a regular sale, but inter-family deal.

Tax records would give a more precise name for the owner, whoever paid the taxes. I'm sure Katrina will be blamed for the destruction of civic records.

Dawson maintained ownership into the 1980s. Gregory's bar is neighborhood saloon a few blocks west of the French Quarter, popular with the off duty nightclub entertainers and not tourists.

Jesse Gardner was apparently a maintenance and property oversight landlord.

William McLaney is the brother of Havana casino operator Mike McLaney and owner of the lake house property. He is said to be in the horse feed business and sold primarily to race tracks.

I wish Ed Haslam would chime in sometime. I think he could shed some light down these alleys.

BK

[Greg Parker]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, Gregory/Dawson may have cashed an Oswald check, but I've found no evidence for it. Her daughter I believe, was the person who signed the rent receipts for him, so if McLaney ever owned the dwelling it was either before Oswald moved in, or after the assassination (as Isabella was the person who signed the consent to search for the FBI).

You may be right about the bar. She lived at 414 Emerald St. Is that near the French Quarter?

Adele says that when she went down into the New Orleans city clerk's basement file rooms she saw paperwork that indicated that the Magazine Street property was transfered to Isabelle Dawson, of Emerald Street, around 1974. Adele said the records indicate that Dawson may be somehow related to Mr. and Mrs. William McLaney.

The transfer of the property between these people might not have been a regular sale, but inter-family deal.

Tax records would give a more precise name for the owner, whoever paid the taxes. I'm sure Katrina will be blamed for the destruction of civic records.

Dawson maintained ownership into the 1980s. Gregory's bar is neighborhood saloon a few blocks west of the French Quarter, popular with the off duty nightclub entertainers and not tourists.

Jesse Gardner was apparently a maintenance and property oversight landlord.

William McLaney is the brother of Havana casino operator Mike McLaney and owner of the lake house property. He is said to be in the horse feed business and sold primarily to race tracks.

I wish Ed Haslam would chime in sometime. I think he could shed some light down these alleys.

BK

Bill, even JPH may be able to clear this up. I've checked the Louisiana Corporation database to see what businesses and addresses

the McLaneys had been involved in. Same checks made under Isabella Dawson, Isabella Gregory and Blaine Gregory. Came up blank on all of them.

If Isabella owned the property at the time Oswald lived there, and still owned it a day after the assassination, the title transfer TO her in 1974 seems a little curious, but I guess could nonetheless be explicable in some manner...

[William O'Neil]

Here you go Bill.....

But, there is no mention of Mclaney in Ed's book. I have no idea what is fact or not, I am just going to give you what is in Ed's book, about Oswalds Apartment.

Ed actually did quite well and was even somewhat plausible, until he decided to change his whole direction and climbed into the ring with Judyth. He said that he talked with her and saw her Mementoes and then verified her Newspaper clippings of her Highschool Science Achievments and awards. However, there has never been a question of those clippings nor that she worked at Riley's for a short time.

Dixie

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Dr Mary's Monkey by Edward T. Haslam

Forward by Jim Marrs (2007)

Chapter 11

Page 267

In Warren Commission Volume 19

The FBI went to the U.S. Public Health Service Hospital on 11/25/63 (8) looking for evidence of either Lee Harvey Oswald or A.J. Hidell (9). They went back a second time on 1/26. (10).

The FBI was looking for Oswald at the US Public Health Hospital! I could hardly believe my ears. "Why?"

(Told to Ed) "According to the Dallas Police, Oswald had a vaccination card issued to him by the U.S. Public Health Service on 6/8/63, when he lived at 4907 Magazine Street in New Orleans. It was issued to Lee Harvey Oswald, and signed by "Dr. A.J. Hidell."

Had Lee Harvey Oswald been on the grounds of the U.S. Public Health Service Hospital at the time the linear particle accelerator was there?

Take a look at the map (map shown in book). Does it strike you as unusual that both Lee Harvey Oswald and Dr. Alton Ochsner lived within one mile of the most secret government laboratory in America?

Here one should also consder the testimony of Dr. Adele Edisen, a Ph.D.neurologist, to the Assassinations Records Review Board in the 1990's. She stated that she had been given Lee Harvey Oswald's name and his New Orleans phone number in mid-April 1963. approximately three weeks before Oswald moved to New Orleans. (11) To me, her 21 page narrative strongly suggests that the location of Oswald's apartment was not accidental, and that it had been selected in advance for some reason. Was this reason it's close proximity to the U.S. Public Health Service Hospital? Had Lee Harvey Oswald been sent to New Orleans to spy on the secret experiments at the U.S. Public Health Service Hospital?

Footnotes page 271

(8) 11/25/63 was the Monsay following the JFK Assassaination (Friday 22, 1963)

(9) A.J. Hidell was an alias that Lee Harvewy Oswald used during his first month in New Orleans.

(10) Warren Commission Volime XIX, Exhibit #2012, memos from the New Orleans FBI Office. Also HSCA, Cadigan 23 & 24.

(11) DR. Edisen said she was given Oswald's phone number by Jose A. Rivera, M.D., Ph.D., a Director of NIH's Institute for Nerurological Diseases and Blindness. Subsequent research proved Dr Rivera to be Col. Jose A. Rivera of the U.S. Army's biowarfare unit and that he had lived in uptown New Orleans during 1960-61, a fact which he later concealed from the U.S. Civil Service Commission. Rivera may have been involved in the secret experiments at the U.S. Public Health Service Hospital.

(12) Oswald's 4907 Magazine St. apartment was a small flat usually rented by Tulane or Loyola students. The phone number given to Edisen belonged to the building's landlord. Like the other tenants, the Oswalds borrowed their lansdlord's phone and never had a phone of their own. Dr Edisen eventually called the phone number and spoke to Oswald himself. She was surprised to hear Oswald say that he did not know Dr. Rivera, and cautioned him. "Well he sure knows who you are."

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Not to be picky but, the alias on the vaccination doc was HIDEEL.

[Edward Haslam]

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss "the McClaney apartment." I have wanted to for years. I will address some of it now and will try to get back to it later.

In 1992 I went to New Orleans to assist Gus Russo in his research for the PBS show "Frontline" which was doing an episode on Lee Oswald. This event was the result of on introduction arranged by Jim DiEugenio whose review of DR. MARY'S MONKEY has been posted to http://www.ctka.net/haslem.html. (I was trying to identify who had shown me Guy Banister's files; it turned out to be Ed Butler and the files were located in INCA.) Gus had his own objectives. Due to my 35 years of living in New Orleans, I knew the city well and drove Guy Russo around. This is discussed in DR. MARY'S MONKEY.

Gus and I stopped at 4907 Magazine which had been Lee and Marina Oswald's apartment in the summer of 1963. The owner of the building was just leaving. He held a folder newspaper in his hand and was studying the horse races for the day. Gus stopped him and introduced himself and noted his interest in the horse racing forms. I stood nearby and listened. The owner said that he was headed to the horse track to watch the races. Gus asked him who he bought the house from. He said "a guy from the track," meaning the horse race track. Shortly, the man left. Knowing that one of our next stop was the land records office of New Orleans City Hall, I mentioned to Gus Russo that McClaney (Cuban Casino connections and anti-Castro guerrilla training camp) was a big name at the track and that he had a business that supplied feed to the horse track. Further, I suggest that it might be appropriate to keep an eye out for the name while he was looking at the land ownership records of Oswald's apartment. I drove Gus to City Hall. He did his research; I did mine. I wanted to know who owned 3225 Louisiana Ave Parkway, which I had ID'ed as a Ferrie-related asset. What I found was that the property was lost in legal limbo due to probate and was being managed by a law firm. This is an interesting point, since "who owned the property" was irrelevant to how it was being used. I never asked Gus Russo what he found in the title search. I considered this restraint appropriate, since he held his research close to his chest and I did not want to interfer.

The next I heard of it was when I got a phone call at home from a man named Bill Kelly who made claims about McClaney and the LHO apartment that I said that I could not validate. I explained to him what I just explained to you. The claim was later repeated in BARRY AND THE BOYS by Daniel Hopsicker with CIA implications. Since Gus Russo never told me what he found, I must say I do not know. You might want to ask Gus Russo what he found. But whoever actually owned 4907 Magazine in 1963 may be as irrelevant and who owned 3225 Louisiana Ave. Parkway. The real question is who controlled it at the time. Maybe a lawyer whose name would not have been listed on the title.

I do find it significant that Adele Edisen (whom I believe) was given a phone number for Oswald (his Magazine Street landlord's phone) several week prior to his moving in. To my mind, this indicates that someone had prior knowledge of Oswald's moves and took the trouble to get a post-doc PHD medical researcher to call him to keep tabs on him. The information was given to Dr. Edisen by Dr. Jose Rivera whom I will discuss in greated detail in another post in the near future.

Ed Haslam

www.TheMonkeyVirus.com

www.DrMarysMonkey.com

[William Kelly]

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss "the McClaney apartment." I have wanted to for years. I will address some of it now and will try to get back to it later.

Hi Ed,

Glad you are here.

I'm the man called Bill Kelly.

Still trying to confirm Adele's suspicions that LHO's Magazine St. Apt. was owned by William McLaney & wife.

It's a shame that Gus is so close-to-the-vest about his research, or I would have known when I was with him in DC that he sold his soul to the devil.

This is about the third or fourth time I've been tracking down a lead and Gus has been there before me, muddying up the waters, first Jean Aase, who he failed to ask the right questions, then Chauncy Holt, who he dismissed by whose stories other than the tramp checked out, and now the title search for the Magazine St. Apt. I guess we shouldn't hold our breath until Gus tells us what he found.

When Gus had a Holloween party at his Batimore Apt. for the publication of his book I almost went as Fidel Castro.

Here's what Adele discovered, though she said there were no copy machines in this area of the NO city archives, it was in the basement which she speculates was probably destroyed by Katrina floodwaters.

Maybe somebody in New Oreleans who knows how to do a title search will check again and try to get a copy of the deeds with the owners name on them. If it is indeed William McLaney or wife, or relative, it would be HUGE.

Would like to hear more about what you've learned.

Thanks,

Bill Kelly

bkjfk3@yahoo.com

Adele: The reason I think William McLaney owned that property of apartments on Magazine Street is that in the late 1970s, after I contacted Jack Peebles, attorney, in 1975 and wrote FOIA letters to the FBI, SS, and CIA, and had read parts of the Warren Commission Hearings in the main New Orleans Public Library, I decided to do some searching of my own, especially after reading Myrtle Evan's testimony of how she helped Oswald find the Magazine Street apartment. I wanted to know who actually owned that property, so I went to the City Property Tax offices and wound up in the basement of the New Orleans Civil Court Building where transfers of titles were recorded and stored. I spent many, many hours searching through huge, heavy tomes of bound records and found that the property was owned by Mr. and Mrs. William McLaney and was transferred to an Isabel Dawson in 1974, I think it was. I believe they had owned the property for many, many years. From what Mary Ferrell told me, Isabel Dawson had signed a rent receipt for Oswald, so she may have been a relative of the McLaney's - a daughter, granddaughter, perhaps. I would think that the Property Manager should have done that, but may not have been available at the time. None of these names meant anything tome until much later when I realized that the man I had spoken with was Jesse Garner, the Property Manager, and not the Landlord, McLaney.

In 1992 I went to New Orleans to assist Gus Russo in his research for the PBS show "Frontline" which was doing an episode on Lee Oswald. This event was the result of on introduction arranged by Jim DiEugenio whose review of DR. MARY'S MONKEY has been posted to http://www.ctka.net/haslem.html. (I was trying to identify who had shown me Guy Banister's files; it turned out to be Ed Butler and the files were located in INCA.) Gus had his own objectives. Due to my 35 years of living in New Orleans, I knew the city well and drove Guy Russo around. This is discussed in DR. MARY'S MONKEY.

Gus and I stopped at 4907 Magazine which had been Lee and Marina Oswald's apartment in the summer of 1963. The owner of the building was just leaving. He held a folder newspaper in his hand and was studying the horse races for the day. Gus stopped him and introduced himself and noted his interest in the horse racing forms. I stood nearby and listened. The owner said that he was headed to the horse track to watch the races. Gus asked him who he bought the house from. He said "a guy from the track," meaning the horse race track. Shortly, the man left. Knowing that one of our next stop was the land records office of New Orleans City Hall, I mentioned to Gus Russo that McClaney (Cuban Casino connections and anti-Castro guerrilla training camp) was a big name at the track and that he had a business that supplied feed to the horse track. Further, I suggest that it might be appropriate to keep an eye out for the name while he was looking at the land ownership records of Oswald's apartment. I drove Gus to City Hall. He did his research; I did mine. I wanted to know who owned 3225 Louisiana Ave Parkway, which I had ID'ed as a Ferrie-related asset. What I found was that the property was lost in legal limbo due to probate and was being managed by a law firm. This is an interesting point, since "who owned the property" was irrelevant to how it was being used. I never asked Gus Russo what he found in the title search. I considered this restraint appropriate, since he held his research close to his chest and I did not want to interfer.

The next I heard of it was when I got a phone call at home from a man named Bill Kelly who made claims about McClaney and the LHO apartment that I said that I could not validate. I explained to him what I just explained to you. The claim was later repeated in BARRY AND THE BOYS by Daniel Hopsicker with CIA implications. Since Gus Russo never told me what he found, I must say I do not know. You might want to ask Gus Russo what he found. But whoever actually owned 4907 Magazine in 1963 may be as irrelevant and who owned 3225 Louisiana Ave. Parkway. The real question is who controlled it at the time. Maybe a lawyer whose name would not have been listed on the title.

I do find it significant that Adele Edisen (whom I believe) was given a phone number for Oswald (his Magazine Street landlord's phone) several week prior to his moving in. To my mind, this indicates that someone had prior knowledge of Oswald's moves and took the trouble to get a post-doc PHD medical researcher to call him to keep tabs on him. The information was given to Dr. Edisen by Dr. Jose Rivera whom I will discuss in greated detail in another post in the near future.

Ed Haslam

www.TheMonkeyVirus.com

www.DrMarysMonkey.com

Edited June 9, 2007 by William Kelly

[Royce Bierma]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, we researched the ownership of that apartment about 7 years ago through our old friend Lamar Chauvin of New Orleans. Don't you remember? Isabella Dawson indeed signed a rent check from Oswald.

Take care,

Roy Bierma

[William Kelly]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, we researched the ownership of that apartment about 7 years ago through our old friend Lamar Chauvin of New Orleans. Don't you remember? Isabella Dawson indeed signed a rent check from Oswald.

Take care,

Roy Bierma

Hi Roy,

I remember, but I am trying to substantiate and confirm what Adele and Ed say, that the apartment house was owned at some time by William McLaney, which would put it into the hands of a major player.

Also got your note on the Joan Mellen talk at Pittsburgh so I put it up as a separate thread for people to react to it.

I also hope Joan will rejoin us and talk some more about it.

BK

[Royce Bierma]

One thing Adele and Ed Haslam seem to have discovered, which I have yet to confirm, is the Magazine Street apartment where Oswald lived, (whose phone number was known to Rivera in DC before Oswald moved in), was owned by William McLaney.

If this can be confirmed, it would be very significant, since William McLaney also owned the Lake Pontchartrain training camp and his brother co-owned the National Casino in Havana with LBJ's pal Carroll Rossenbloom.

BK

Bill, the apartments were owned by Isabella Gregory. See CE 2349. Her husband at that time was Blaine Gregory. At some stage, she was also known as Isabella Dawson (probably either maiden name or name of second husband after Blaine died in '81).

Hi Greg,

Thanks, for that.

Didn't Dawson cash an Oswald check?

Also, it's possible McLaney owned the property before Gregory.

There's an old neighborhood bar called Gregory's near the Quarter.

Wonder if they're same family?

BK

Bill, we researched the ownership of that apartment about 7 years ago through our old friend Lamar Chauvin of New Orleans. Don't you remember? Isabella Dawson indeed signed a rent check from Oswald.

Take care,

Roy Bierma

Hi Roy,

I remember, but I am trying to substantiate and confirm what Adele and Ed say, that the apartment house was owned at some time by William McLaney, which would put it into the hands of a major player.

Also got your note on the Joan Mellen talk at Pittsburgh so I put it up as a separate thread for people to react to it.

I also hope Joan will rejoin us and talk some more about it.

BK

Bill, the receipt for the rental check is dated Aug. 9, 1963, the same day Oswald was arrested. The William McLaney ownership would be nice to confirm. I'm also aware of the presence of an "Isabel"(lnu)with Jack Ruby in Islamadora, Florida, in 1958 when he was running guns by boat with James Woodard. In one of the documents on that subject it says that "Isabel" was from Chicago, where Ruby also originated.

Roy Bierma