Charles Harrelson...in all its Glory

[Jack White]

Here is the one thing that has always bothered me about the Tramp Story. It is not the identity of the tramps, but WHY were they in the boxcar? According to documents at the National Archives, the boxcar was located under the Houston Viaduct, almost 1/2 mile from TSBD. If the tramps were involved with the shooting, why stop and hide in a boxcar?? Why not just keep going?? There had to be a different reason for being in the boxcar that had nothing to do with an escape plan.

If Harrelson has the tall tramp, why was he guarding the boxcar and what did Lee Bowers see that made him stop the train?

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...mp;relPageId=23

The train Bowers stopped had GONDOLA* cars, with open tops...and Bowers could look down into them, and the

tramps looked suspicious; the train was in the vicinity of the Triple Underpass. The BOXCAR tramps you are

referring to were the second set of tramps produced many years later. As you say, their BOXCAR was more

than a half mile south, yet we are asked to believe that these fake tramps were marched north on foot more

than a half mile along the rail tracks to Dealey Plaza and then back east to the jail. This makes no sense at

all. Any arresting officer would simply put in a call for them to be picked up where they were arrested.

Jack

*gondola cars are generally used to haul grain, dirt, coal, gravel, etc. The hoppers are loaded from the

top, and the loads are discharged through trapdoors at the bottoms.

[Brian Benson]

The train Bowers stopped had GONDOLA* cars, with open tops...and Bowers could look down into them, and the

tramps looked suspicious; the train was in the vicinity of the Triple Underpass. The BOXCAR tramps you are

referring to were the second set of tramps produced many years later. As you say, their BOXCAR was more

than a half mile south, yet we are asked to believe that these fake tramps were marched north on foot more

than a half mile along the rail tracks to Dealey Plaza and then back east to the jail. This makes no sense at

all. Any arresting officer would simply put in a call for them to be picked up where they were arrested.

Jack

*gondola cars are generally used to haul grain, dirt, coal, gravel, etc. The hoppers are loaded from the

top, and the loads are discharged through trapdoors at the bottoms.

So Jack, you are saying that the 'infamous' three Tramps were hiding in a gondola cars?? C. Holt says he was one of the tramps, but his statements say he was in a boxcar, not a gondola car.

" . . . . So I scooted under the train, went under to the other side, encountered Harrelson and Montoya, we searched out the car, which was not too far from the engine, climbed in it, closed the door and sat there in silence, while I monitored the radio and listened to what was going on. . . . We were in the box car a long time. . . . . Then suddenly the thing stopped. They opened the door and there was a whole bunch of police officers with shotguns and everything else. We saw, the box car was not a fully loaded box car . . . . "

(2) Chauncey Holt was interviewed by John Craig, Phillip Rogers and Gary Shaw for Newsweek magazine (19th October, 1991) posted at http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKholt.htm

If C Holt says he was in a boxcar, can he really be one of the 'infamous' three Tramps ??

[Jack White]

The train Bowers stopped had GONDOLA* cars, with open tops...and Bowers could look down into them, and the

tramps looked suspicious; the train was in the vicinity of the Triple Underpass. The BOXCAR tramps you are

referring to were the second set of tramps produced many years later. As you say, their BOXCAR was more

than a half mile south, yet we are asked to believe that these fake tramps were marched north on foot more

than a half mile along the rail tracks to Dealey Plaza and then back east to the jail. This makes no sense at

all. Any arresting officer would simply put in a call for them to be picked up where they were arrested.

Jack

*gondola cars are generally used to haul grain, dirt, coal, gravel, etc. The hoppers are loaded from the

top, and the loads are discharged through trapdoors at the bottoms.

So Jack, you are saying that the 'infamous' three Tramps were hiding in a gondola cars?? C. Holt says he was one of the tramps, but his statements say he was in a boxcar, not a gondola car.

" . . . . So I scooted under the train, went under to the other side, encountered Harrelson and Montoya, we searched out the car, which was not too far from the engine, climbed in it, closed the door and sat there in silence, while I monitored the radio and listened to what was going on. . . . We were in the box car a long time. . . . . Then suddenly the thing stopped. They opened the door and there was a whole bunch of police officers with shotguns and everything else. We saw, the box car was not a fully loaded box car . . . . "

(2) Chauncey Holt was interviewed by John Craig, Phillip Rogers and Gary Shaw for Newsweek magazine (19th October, 1991) posted at http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKholt.htm

If C Holt says he was in a boxcar, can he really be one of the 'infamous' three Tramps ??

Simple...HOLT WAS NOT ONE OF THE THREE TRAMPS!

Jack

[Jack White]

Excerpt from the Dallas Police tapes: (first "he" is in reference to Bowers)

.......

Dispatcher:

Is the train stopped there now?

[61] Temple and Vaughn:

I'm in behind the Texas School Depository. He had the train stopped. He said it is in the ninth car from the engine. Gondola-type car; said he is hunkered down inside.

Dispatcher: 393 (Criminal Investigation Division), did you receive information?

393 (Criminal Investigation Division):

10-4 En route.

Hollingsworth:

En route.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Jack White